Olu317:
Get further knowledge pleaseee.

1. I stated Yoruba ancestors had DNA linked to North Europe,which shows diversity(Professor David Reich and others have proven this)

2. That Yoruba language is found in Near East (formerly part of Africa ) which is found to be spoken by ancient semitic people(among Arabs & Hebrews) which its traces stretch to Egypt as Coptic in the antiquity.

3. That Yoruba animals are smaller in sizes as found in Near East/Asia which differs as compared to African animals with larger stature.

4. That at a point in history Yoruba had contact with all sort of animals including Ẹkùn (Tiger) because they were hunter gatherers!.Hence names were given in descriptive pattern often. Beside,Ẹkùn is revered in Yoruba pantheon even in Ifaodu.

5. That even at a time in history , Tiger were said to had roam Africa, even with evidence which you can find in google search.

But here you are being Thomas! Seeing is believing when information to it had been given.
Seriously, I do not have time to share over irrelevant chat which do not profit me in whatsoever way.

Therefore, satisfy yourself with whatever pleases your ego.

Irè

1. There's no such scholarly work that has proven this, it's all conjectures only confirmed in your head.
2. Mention one of those near east you're claiming Yoruba Language is found in their language.
3. Really? 😳
Like they took their animals from where they were migrating from to this present day Yorùbáland? Haba Olu317 rọra parọ́ na. How can migrants bring in animals from their lands to their new settlement? They must have told lion wòó kìnnìún o máa tẹ̀lé wa lọ sí ìrìn-àjò táa fẹ́ẹ́ lọ ní ọrún 😂
Erin ìwọ àti àwọn yòókù ẹ máa bá wa lọ sí ibẹ̀ pẹ̀lú
Ó yá sèbé 🐍 sọ fún àwọn ejò 🐍 yòókù wípé ìrìnàjò kan ń bọ̀ tí gbogbo jíjọ máa lọ
Mention one group of people who has done that in history, just one group
4. I won't stop telling that Tiger is not ẹkùn, go look at different historical pictures and description or depiction of ẹkùn all has nothing to do with Tiger. In fact all Ọba in Yorùbáland who uses awọ
Ẹkùn as footmat uses leopard I don't know where you got your Tiger story from.
5. Are you normal at all? Which historian tell you that tiger roam Africa at any time in history? Which silly historian is that? Is there any archeological evidence for such silly assumption?
6. It is irrelevant when you're being bursted online. If I accepted your lies and go on with it you wouldn't have said it is irrelevant.

Stop lying just stop.

Paeudo-intellectual of nairaland conjuring high-stories in disguise for history

Olu317:
Common is, when fact of history have been proven via linguistic connection to proof existence of Yoruba ancestors in Near East, Dna in Northern Europe, which showcase divergence over 10000 years back.

Even Yorubas ancestors as hunter gatherers is not farfetched. Sailors or sea migrants and testimonies of Olokun and others who are seafarers existed in Yoruba ifa corpus.

Seriously, you have a lot to learn.

Happy new year to you my lost brother from Semitic land

There are no linguistics proof nor DNA proof of Yorùbá migration from Europe lol

Baba die this idea it's 2024

Olu317:
Funny. I do not have to prooof anything beyond common sense!

Contrary to your assertion, Yorubas have stamped linguistic authority in Egypt, Near East . Yet you kept regurgitating assumption as if Yorubas had lived all their lives in West Africa ? The existence of established Animal Husbandary at Ileife is 500 BC.

Is this even near up to existence of linguistic comparison as found to be Yoruboid in Egypt ?

Despite the fact, that certain animals have gone into extinction in Africa , such as Tiger, does it mean such animal hasnt been found in Africa ?

Didnt Africa even cover Near East at a pointi n history ?

But here you asking irrelevant question as to if Tiger was Ẹkùn or even found in Africa at a point in histoy . Yes and Yes, they were once found in Africa.

Common Sense is not common.

History is not common sense but fact proven by achaeology, oral tradition etc not folklore and conjuring delusional fresh from a high fever infested brain

AntiChristian:
These days people go to hell and came back!

Christians that don't pray for hell themselves are praying hell on earth for the people of Gaza!

May Allah punish Israel for their illegal occupation of Palestinian lands!

May Allah crush, burn and annihilate USA, Biden and all their supporters and propaganda machinery against Palestine and others they oppressed!

And to you Christians supporting the oppressions of Israel because Israel was mentioned in your Bible, your hypocrisy will keep drawing you backwards till Christianity only exist as people's religious identity in the west!

This revision of history is the reason y'all HAMAS terrorists and their sympathizers will continue to be smoked like catfish.
Did the Jews started existing in 1949?

I have just one question for you do*lt
State one verse in the entire Qur'an where Palestine was mentioned if you can't then go to hell like your fellow terrorists.

Olu317:


I do not have time to dilly dally. I wonder how to inform your uneducated personality in the manner you are asserting Ẹkùn isnt tiger ? And you even expect me to mention Aràba's name to buttress my point ?

It is obvious you are not busy quoting me to draw my attention to your fallacy. I just came to realise that you seem to be unstable mentally.

Hence,stop quoting me with your delusional perspective.

For everyone who make a claim they must be ready to proof

Davnews1:


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-67030073.amp

Agba sampler

Incase you are Burna fan and you're angry at me for calling him a sampler
Go and listen to Angelique Kidjo we we and Burna Boy's anybody

BabaRamota1980:


Ah, alaye mi.
I dey kampe.

I don join task force, we clean out illegal traders from road. I love the job.

BabaRamota1980 himself, the nightmare of the Igbos on nairaland 😂 😂 😂

absoluteSuccess:


I see.

It's about two years ago, thank God you just noticed my thread. Very important person, I'm glad to have shared opinions with you. You are most welcome sir.

In order not to disturb yourself, check out the number of the guy I'm mistaken for macof in my sickness and call him or send the link to this thread to him.

This is not another improbable "Yoruba is hebrew" sickness thread, it's a point blank issue of sickness, so save an INNOCENT YORUBA soul from the claws of a sick and miserable fellow Sir.

That will save you some bunch of incoherence and stress.

My bad!
I don't know what you are were really dealing with. I pray I wish you God's speed in your recovery/healing

Stay strong

Olu317:
Funny lad. How on earth will correct such as your type who is unwilling to see the reality ?

1. In Ifaodu,Tiger is identified as Ẹkun by Arabas. And you are here misleading a lot of people who are not versed in Yoruba tradition? I hope you will stop this pollution.

Mention one Árábà Ifá that claim this your lie up there or remain the Pinocchio that you are forever

Olu317:

2. History has it that Africa had tiger lived in it in the ancient past. Besides, if Yoruba ancestors language can be found in Egypt,Near East and still in use as Coptic liturgy in Orthodox Christendom,then I wonder your point!

No history tell you these lies if you claim there is any proof your point and show evidence

Olu317:

3. Professor David Reich stated that Yoruba Dna match was found to had existed in Northern Europe 100,000 years ago before divergence. But here you are still behaving as unstudied lad!

Matching DNA has nothing to do with these topic, you fraudulently sneaked it in to score cheap points lol
Face the topic of discussion, how did DNA proof ẹkùn to be tiger? 😂

Olu317:

4. Where exactly do we have Tiger in modern time if not in four location in the world ? Asia is part and Europe is part of it.

a.These location have been proven to either have Bust that have similar look as Yorubas.

b.Linguistic relationship between Yorubas and ancient people who lived in this area which stretch backward to Egypt.

c. Dna of Yoruba ancestors in Europe also a testimony.

Olu317:

Therefore, all these fact points to the reality that it is not a fluke having such animal which is close knitted knowledge on this animal that represented prowess and most powerful Cat in affiliation to Yoruba royalty is not erroneous..

See conclusion from this fraud arhgghhh
Irọ́ ló máa pa ẹ́

Olu317:

Advice: Get a good grip of knowledge.And stop wasting your time on pseudo info.

Irè o

If these rubbish you wrote here is knowledge then Heistein must be a clown.

Olódo go and learn history and stop conjuring takes by moon light from your decayed brain

AntiChristian:


That's not the bone of contention here.
Stop the diversion!

You know next to nothing

BabaRamota1980:




Hey Obidients, watch out for this guy. Dont offend him. Chairman, Tinubu Task Force for dot nation

BabaRamota1980 it's being quiet an age, how are you doing?

absoluteSuccess:
In fact, it was after this guy that the woman I dubbed TAO11 came through. She was more persistent. I would have met her, but I was marketing towards Sango Ota axis while she claims to be at Mushin.

I couldn't find time to go over to that side of town for a long time. But since she's persistence and sounds desperate, I thought it's better I sent the product through courier to her, at least she's convinced of its efficacy.

I sent my account details, yet she's not satisfied. It started looking like I have to be there. In that sense, I don't have to be there if I have to be there, that's where you need to consult with your doctor.

Since the bargaining has gone cold over and over, it ought not be resurrected again. But then I was owing kayusly, and he promised to make an occasion out of it on nairaland. I told him to help me with the sound of the piece of oriki for easy read.

Lo, kayusly made real his threat to disclose the affair. It was a time macof and TAO11 and rhektor were having a great time mocking every slight error that comes to the open. So I brace up for the mockery to come.

Then my good friend Olu had answered kayusly. But the very moment I wanted to respond to that post, I saw TAO11 viewing the thread with two guests. Then about the same time, past 6 in the morning, my phone rang.

The caller is the "Mushin Woman" again. This time, the narrative is that she wanted to have the product at Mushin today by 11 am before going to class. Her Yoruba sounds like Ebira. I have an Ebira foster mom at childhood.

I said okay. The trap has failed. How could she be in desperate need of a product she never had when she was sick now when she is okay? There's something fishy, this is the "bailout package" from someone on nairaland.

This person came through trying to buy the exact amount I wanted to pay for the oriki Elerin that kayusly offered me. This is beyond coincidence, it's a good case of unintended self exposition. Now the setup that followed was that I refused to pick up the person's call.

That's a powerful way to get the culprit. She called almost 35 times before the time we agreed to meet. In that instance, did her life suddenly depend on the spice? Not really. Instead, conscience is an open wound, like Uthman Dan Fodio would say.

I can't even make anything out of these much words without saying something tangible or reasonable

Olu317:
Lol! Ẹkùn/Amọtẹ́kùn ? How is this correlated to Hebrew ? You must be sleepwalking .

If you have knack for Classic Hebrew , go study at the university to have a grip on some of the interesting aspects of Yoruboid language unresearched.

And gradually, the reality is fore because some present day Yorubas ancestors migrated from Soudan Belts. Some are of Arabs descents and beyond. I mentioned Arabs because these people have been identified.

Infact, Hausas, Tapa/Nupe, Barubas, Kanuris,Fulanis, Ibos, Edos, etc are part of some ancestors of Yorubas.

Who knows? Your patrilineal ancestor might come from a region you do not admire.
So enjoy the reality at hand.

You mischievously see only the criticism of you turning Yorùbá language upside-down by relating the Yorùbá language to Hebrew 😂

You couldn't respond to the fact that you translate Tiger to Ẹkùn which is another attempt at your revisionism. Why not deal with that and leave the ancestors of Yorùbá alone? Why this nonsense at relating them to savages?

AntiChristian:


I don't understand you and your geeks here. Pick out my post and counter the lies there one by one. I said many things therein and it's not only Crucifixion or mention of Jesus...

I repeat let Quran and SIRA go through textual and historical criticism and see if you'll have anything to hold on to

Whois:
A wise man once said he will move Nigeria from consumption to production but some people said over their dead body just because he is igbo

You mean the idiot that could not move Agulu from consumption to production?

Olu317:
Ẹkun is tiger.
This name actually existed in some places where Yorubas had once lived.

In all kingdoms in Yoruba land, the cat family identified with kings is Tiger which shows the might of a king. Hence, panegyric such as ọma ẹkun/ọmọ ẹkun .......

Interestingly, Tiger is stronger than Lion in all ramification,which is contrary to the perspective the Western world hold as pointing to Lion as the strongest Cat ,even identified as the strongest animal at a point in time.

Today, Lion is being called the bravest animal when fact has emerged that such view of being the strongest animal in the jungle is seemingly far away from authentic information.

So,the Tiger actually existed time immemorial in Yoruba worldview ,which is the reason name was given to it. There are many things yet undiscovered about Yoruba ethnic history.

Finally,are you aware cat (the smallest in the family )is associated with longevity -longlife ? Elédùmárè will deliver Yoruba people from hatred toward their tradition.

It's been a while since I show up on nairaland. Coming here this morning and seeing this really is disappointing especially coming from someone like you. Ẹkùn is not tiger 🐯 Ẹkùn is rather leopard 🐆. I understand your idea of trying hard to pin and spin the Hebrew connection to Yorùbá but please don't murder the language for the sake of your own revision on history.


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AdaojoTheUrchin:
Campaign have ended, the propaganda is too late. GRV is winning Lagos.

The lagosians you stole their votes in anger are coming together to pay you back in the Guber elections.

You will take him to Agulu to be your governor

naptu2:
The leader of the Autopiloters faction of Ipob, Simon Ekpa, had earlier declared a sit-at-home protest for Monday and threatened to extend the protest to Rivers State.

Simon Ekpa Threatens To Extend Sit-At-Home Protest To Rivers State

Nyesome Wike go show dem wetin dey sup

BloomingDale:
No one is obligated to buy you a new tanker, so go away with your sense of entitlement.

Seeking help is different from having entitlement sense.

absoluteSuccess:


The true sinner is the one who convicts a criminal and landed him a term beyond the measure of crime just to please the saints who preached his almighty punishment.

It's one thing to know God, it's another thing to make him serve your pleasure. Study to show thyself approved...if God is a just God, he will equally be just in judgement.

Let's not help God in his judgement.

God being just means he'll give the the punishment to those who deserve it as much as he gives pleasant reward to those who equally deserve it. Justice does not mean overlooking wrongdoing but punishing it. It means giving the right judgement. Mercy and justice are two of the attributes of the God of the Bible the Christian God.

georjay:
3. Cristiano Ronaldo | Man Utd | 18 goals

Cristiano Ronaldo finished last season as the top scorer in Serie A with 29 goals in 33 appearances and dispelled any doubts that he might slow down on his return to Old Trafford with two goals in his first game back. The Manchester United faithful will be hopeful that the Portugal phenomenon can help clinch a Champions League spot this term.

CAF champions League abi




Nothing for Wasiu

SALLAH ALL THE WAY!!!!

For sure Wasiu will play conference league next season

Malory:
So a run away Brothers can't visit their home again

What is this Comrade?

Donshegxy10:
Both yayi and isiaka has a formidable structure in ogun state.

Let them go for primaries, whoever win should take it.

Which mumu Isiaka? Nasiru wey no fit win even with all the showmanship of OGD? ABEGI!

edmaraja:
Why are they making noise when they know they will still bow to their slave master? Amosun bowed in 2019, Aregbesola just bowed in osun state and all these noisemakers will still bow to the great Iragbiji slave master.

Because you and your kinsmen always bow to IPOB terrorists instructions?

Who still wear that shii?

farem:

Don't muddle up history.
Other parts of Nigeria and black race had been celebrating multiple births.
Have you heard igbos, Yorubas, igala etc were killing twins before Ms Slessor came?
It was limited to the people of Calabar extraction.
I wonder how you misrepresent your people to the outsiders just for lack of reading or simple comprehension

As a matter of fact it wasn't Calabar as a whole, it was just a village close by. Killing of twins was stopped by their own king before Mary Slessor was born

IndustryEight:



When I got to know the deception behind religion eh! It felt like the worst heartbreak anyone could have, I was a devoted, tongue speaking Christian. Why all this deception I kept asking myself, but since these mainstream religion discourage Reason Logic and Ration. It was hard to get my hommies to think for themselves since someone else is using their brains for them.

Anyways, I pray these guys encounter the need to stop and think.

This is why many of you would end up like F. Nietszche

HonNL:


SOURCE





SOURCE

You want to compete in the competition of the world that you are desperately trying to destroy? Isn't that madness in itself?

Putin the latest upgrade of Hitler 2.0

AntiChristian:


I don't understand you and your geeks here. Pick out my post and counter the lies there one by one. I said many things therein and it's not only Crucifixion or mention of Jesus...

You should stop this foolish act of acting dumb. You can read point out what you did not understand in the post above then I'll explain to you. Others have also done a good job of response, read their input on your foolish lies or remain silent forever. Stop disgracing yourself

Princewell2012:


How about Paul did he walk directly with Jesus?

Peter did and has this to say about Paul
2 Peter 3:15-16

Princewell2012:

Hmmm is like the more we tried to acquire more knowledge the more we get confused .

Now I want to ask you.
What is the evident the 56 books of the bible are the complete books 27 from new and 39 from the Old Testament ?

The bible is more than that numbers, so who and why did they made those selection?

What happen to the others they removed, why do they removed them? May God help us.

First of all 27 + 39 is not 56
It's 66 books.
Now to the topic, the Bible is not a single book treating it as such is what has been confusing many of you
It is a book of books. Many books brought together and that's why it is called Bible from the word BIBLIA a Greek word meaning books or simply a book containing books.
Nobody remove any book from the Bible, those that were not part of the Bible today are found to be either forgery or non or what is called apocryphal. Examples are, the gospel of barnabas, book of Enoch, Maccabees etc
Take note, nobody remove from the Bible, there were many scrolls that were put together to make up what we have today as the Bible

AntiChristian:
We know all these since! Even all the many manuscripts that exists no two are exactly the same! Is this not falsehood?


Just as you were telling lies and bragging on that Alcohol thread!
https://www.nairaland.com/6973097/alcohol-medicinal-rev-fr-oluoma#109997871

You just argue blindly without truly knowing the details of what is being discussed!

What are the Major Historical Errors in the Bible (Quora) by Sarah Geer
.......
The Gospels are even full of historical problems. Even if one discounts the utter lack of contemporary evidence for Jesus or any of his supposed miracles, there are other issues. The census NEVER required anyone to go to town of origin of their lineage- that would have collapsed the economy of the Empire. Roman censuses counted just the head of household IN their household- they were for tax purposes, so they cared where you lived, not where you came from. They were also done by province, not empire-wide, and usually subcontracted to the publicans. Further, Matthew states that Jesus was born under the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4BCE. Luke claims it was during the census of Israel conducted when Quirinius was governor of Syria- a post he did not take until 6CE, 10 YEARS after Herod the Great died. So both Matthew and Luke contradict themselves- the census literally could not have occurred at the same time as Herod was alive, yet both describe them as simultaneous. Luke also says that Augustus Caesar decreed "all the world should be registered", which is false.

Herod the Great never slaughtered infants as described in Matthew- despite there being many chroniclers of Herod's abuses, this little gem appears NOWHERE but the bible. Even Flavius Josephus, who extensively recorded Herod's evils, mentioned nothing of this event, which he would have if it actually occurred.

There were many minor errors showing the Gospel writers (Greeks, for the most part) had no clue of the geography of the area- like the story of the Gadarine swine, which Jesus supposedly drove into the Sea of Galilee, despite Gadera being kilometers from the sea. And that's just Matthew, since Mark's said "Gerasa", which was 30 kilometers away. Mark's descriptions of Jesus' movements made no geographical sense and are at times impossible.

No historians of the time, despite living in the area, ever recorded any major earthquakes or skies going black as was claimed happened during Jesus' death.

Interestingly, early scholars that even mentioned what early Christians believed- like Tacitus, Philo, Pliny, Suetonius, Epictectus, Cluvius Rufus, Quintus, Curtis Rufus, Josephus, the Roman Consul, Publius Petronius- never mentioned any crucifixion. In fact, the crucifixion seemed to be unknown even to early Christians until the Second Century!

The lie above is debunked here, why do you like to disgrace yourself like this?
These are early church fathers' quotes on the crucifixion but one silly guy on nairaland want to turn truth on its head
https://www.1517.org/articles/standing-at-the-foot-of-the-cross-with-church-fathers
Cc antiislam
Abdoolbuster
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