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Rashduct4luv I have a question for you

Apart from Muhammad that came from Arab nation, is their any prophet before and after Muhammad from any Arab country?

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Rashduct4luv:
Don't be so dumb! Musical Instrument is forbidden. Where do you see musical instrument in the verse above? Does mountain, birds and Dawood's song constitute musical instruments?

So you never knew that Dawood played musical instrument? See, go back to Quranic school okay

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5048) and Muslim 793

“You have been given a beautiful voice (mizmaar, lit. flute) like the beautiful voices of the family of Dawood"

Rashduct4luv:
Abeg don't infect me with your foolishness with all these nonsense you keep typing.




Where do you see musical instruments in the above? Same idiocy.




Is sweet voice Musical instrument? Same malady!



Is sweet melodious voice akin to Musical instrument?

Islam is the text not any personality. If the Sultan uphold the texts of Islam, we'll follow him. Otherwise we follow the texts.

You are calling ahadith of your prophet nonsense and even calling him a fool, that's lovely. Am I the one that wrote those verses and hadith I shown you? Music that you said is not permissible in Islam was recognized by Allah and Muhammad respectively

Rashduct4luv:
Stop my mentions please. I so much dislike boastful ignoramus.

Because you were seriously pained imagine telling us that listening to music is not permissible in islam

Rashduct4luv:
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari ta’leeqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsool by al-Tabaraani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Saheehah by al-Albaani, 91).

Which means those listed are forbidden.
The exception to the above is the daff – without any rings (i.e., a hand-drum which looks like a tambourine, but without any rattles) – when used by women on Eids and at weddings.

"You were indeed given one of the mizmars of the Prophet Dawud (David)." ( Mizmar is actually a wind instrument like flute. In the hadith above, "mizmar" means nice voice, tone, timbre.)

Bukhari, Fadailul-Qur'an 31; Muslim, Salatul-Musafirin 34; Tirmidhi, Manaqib 55

AntiChristian:
Scripture revealed to Moses = Tawrah
Scripture revealed to Jesus = Injeel
Scripture revealed to Muhammad= Qu'ran

Where's Tawrah and Injeel? Quote a chapter and verse from the two books let's see

AntiChristian:
So how is scripture same as Bible? Where was the word Bible mentioned in the Bible as equivalent to scripture?
Keep laughing like Yaba left people.

See how you're showing your madness on NL, Is English now giving you headache, or is it because Holy is not infront ie (Holy Scripture) that's why you don't know is the same as saying Holy Bible? Why not consult dictionary to enlighten you instead of acting ignorantly fool here.. PLEASE USE DICTIONARY

AntiChristian:
The Qu'ran is the word of Allah only so why would it contain any thing else?

Are you saying Allah forgot to give you in details how Ablution should be done step by step in Quran rather than waiting for Muhammad to pen down his own book before you could observed ablution the way it should be?

AntiChristian:
Allah says we should obey the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa salam in the Qu'ran.
Obeying him is to follow the ahadith. Islam is the Qu'ran and the ahadith!

Did I said you shouldn't obey him? Why is Quran not fully detailed? Why following hadith if Quran is complete, why praying five times a day?

AntiChristian:
The Qu'ran is the complete word of Allah and the ahadith is the tradition of the Prophet. We are Muslims who follows the Qu'ran and the ahadith! Each points to the other.

Those that don't follow ahadith are not Muslims right?

AntiChristian:
No, you are the real ignoramus. Your Bible contains words of God, Prophets, disciples, laymen and unknown people all lumped together as Bible (collection of Books).

Qu'ran is simply the word of Allah.

Ahadith is the tradition of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa salam.

No wonder Allah has to make Bible as reference scriptural book for Muhammad because of his ignoramus in which you his followers are following the same suit

Rashduct4luv:
Quote the verse where Prophet Dawud was playing Music in the Qur'an? Allah appointed him as such. Same way He appointed others.

I don't just understand the kinds and types of Muslims we have here on NL, Maybe you guys just hide your Quran under the pillow

Quran Chapter 34 Surah Saba verse 10

We bestowed grace aforetime on Dawood from Ourselves: "O ye Mountains! sing ye back the Praises of Allah with him! And ye birds (also)! And We made the iron soft for Him.

Quran Chapter 21 Surah Anbiyaa verse 79:

To Sulaimaan We inspired the (right) understanding of the matter: to each (of them, Dawood and Sulaimaan) We gave Judgment and Knowledge; it was Our power that made the hills and the birds celebrate Our praises with Dawood: it was We Who did (these things).


Sahih Muslim Hadith 1735 Narrated by Abu Musa

The Messenger of Allah (saws) had said to Abu Musa: If you were to see me as I was listening to your recitation (of the Qur'an) last night (you would have felt delighted). You are in fact endowed with a sweet voice like that of (the Noble Prophet of Allah) Dawood (a.s.) himself!


Sahih Muslim Hadith 1734 Narrated by Buraydah ibn al-Hasib

The Messenger of Allah (saws) said: Abdullah ibn Qays has been gifted with a sweet melodious voice out of the voices of the family of (the Noble Prophet of Allah) Dawood (a.s.).

Rashduct4luv:
Same way we have Muslims who drinks, sells or produce Alcohol which is forbidden. Having many people do an action does not make it right in Islam.

Singing and dancing with samba (Bandiri) that you're used to is haram right? Did you understand Islam more better than sultan of sokoto?

Rashduct4luv:
You need to do something to your brain instead.

Something must be done with your brain or you should go back to Quranic school

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It's against the teaching of Muhammad

Rashduct4luv:
Listening to Music is not permissible in Islam.

https://www.nairaland.com/4438133/evils-music

If listening to music is not permissible in Islam what is prophet Dawud doing in Quran? Why should Allah recognized him as righteousness King and prophet?

If listening to music is not permissible in Islam, why did you have Islamic musicians promoting Islam through their songs?

Something must be done with majority of you people in this religion called Islam

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AntiChristian:
"Scripture" does not mean "Bible" There were scriptures revealed to Moses, Jesus, Abraham, David, etc. Each wasn't called Bible. Even the book of Timothy you quoted is part of the scripture of your Bible right?

Let me laugh in Arabic If Scripture doesn't mean Bible so what does it mean? The scripture Allah mentioned in Quran 10:94 is what? And tell us the name of the scripture revealed to Jesus, Moses, Muhammad, etc

AntiChristian:
Maybe you didn't read the verses well. Your deductions from those verses were wrong.



Allah didn't tell us to use the Qu'ran Alone.
Allah says: "Obey Allah and His messenger" many times in the Qu'ran. Obey Allah by following the Qu'ran and obeying His messenger by following his tradition!

Is the tradition of Muhammad recorded in Quran? See where you finish yourself

AntiChristian:
See Answer 2 above and Qu'ran verse you quoted below: We do it the way the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa salam did it. His example is our Islam. The followers of Jesus, Moses, Noah, etc were to obey them respectively!

Is the way Muhammad did it stated in Quran?

AntiChristian:
The hadith is the tradition of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa salam. And this is the example Allah refers.

What are we now saying, you believe hadith is the tradition of Muhammad and is Quran complete without NOT following the tradition (hadith) of Muhammad?

You don't even know what to say again, just confusing yourself.. Can you now see you're the real ignorant being on earth?

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AntiChristian:
Where is the Bible recognized in the Bible?

2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

Even quran recognized Holy Bible likewise

Quran 10:94 - And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

AntiChristian:
Saying the Qu'ran needs hadith to be complete shows how ignorant you are.

I determine how I answer questions not you.

Let's see who is ignorant between you and I

Question No. 1


Allah says in the Qur'an (Surah 75:19) that the Qur'an will be recited. But then in the verse right after (verse 20) it is also said that the Qur'an will be explained. If the Qur'an is self-explanatory then the only thing that needs to be done is reciting it out. However, in verse 19 the function of reciting is done and then in the verse right after, the function of explaining is done. Clearly these are two different tasks, which mean that reading the Qur'an alone would not give you the full explanation required. It has to be explained through some other source. What is that other source?


Question 2:

How do you know how to pray using the Quran alone?


Question 3:

How do you know how much Zakah to pay using the Quran alone?


Question 4:

Surah 33:21 says you have the Messenger as a good example to follow. How would you know his example without the hadith?

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AntiChristian:
Did Jesus or Yahweh recognize the Bible anywhere in the Bible?

Yes Bible is recognized, Bible don't need any book to make it a whole unlike Quran that needs hadith before completed.

NB: Answer ANTIlSLAM question, don't use question to answer question as he said

haekymbahd:
my bad I should have put it this way
There is no other god except God
There is no other illah except Allah
There is no other god except Allah

well basically it means the same thing! yet there is a slight different
Illah is referring to any one or thing gets worshiped but Allah is typically attributed to god according to Muslim beliefs . Example we can say that some people have mouse, stones, Sango even Jesus the son of mary e.t.c as their god (ilah)! only Muslims , Christians and Jewish have Allah as their god .

Allah SWT said:

"Your god is one God. But those who do not believe in the Hereafter - their hearts are disapproving, and they are arrogant."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 22)

"And they worship besides Allah that which does not possess for them [the power of] provision from the heavens and the earth at all, and [in fact], they are unable."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 73)

"So do not assert similarities to Allah. Indeed, Allah knows and you do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 74)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

There is No Allah But Allah..

Wetin Allah knows that I do not know?

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haekymbahd:
Allahu Akbar... I testify that there is no other God except Allah... Wahala for who no submit to the will of God (Muslim)

Since Allah is God in English You suppose put it this way :

I testify that there is No other Allah except Allah

SheikhMuniru:
You are a slave too

Mumu sit down there dey call Children of God slaves of ur god allah

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AntiChristian:
Great that you started the abuse. Jesus of the Bible too was abusive like this:

You posts reeks of stupidity and it lacks substance! So i no dey reply am till i see one wey get atom of sense.

The Stupidity you firstly tagged someone with is an act of praising right? So you're pained when such word was saith to you bah? Nonsense..

If you don't want people to abuse you, don't abuse someone at first okay. Next time you talk maturely

AntiChristian:
Allah sends scriptures to any nation He wills. Some were mentioned and others are not. If you say He sends two to a nation, how many was sent to others not mentioned? Sometimes you need to be calm and using your brain.

Apart from the Quran allah your god sent to Arab nations through Muhammad, which other book does ur god allah sent again?

AntiChristian:
So na race dey determine Prophethood? I didn't know you are a racist Christian! Show a verse that says Arabs can never be Prophets?

But when are you going to learn, antiIslam has warned you NOT to use question to answer question, guy learn nah

We only knew Muhammad as one and only arab messenger, is there any prophet before him or after him from Arab?

AntiChristian:
You are one of the most ignorant Christian here on nairaland.

Ignorant you said, and that's why you can't answer simplest question you were given rather used question to answer question. allah has already knew your problem and suffering, just imagine what allah said in Quran 10:94

And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.

See how allah take disgrace you and late Muhammad

AntiChristian:
Of cos there were prophecies about Muhammad but the Torah, Zabur and Injeel are lost. What we have today are Old testament Books and New Testament Books!
Are you sure Moses didn't fought? I won't call you a liar yet! But I would tell you Moses fought wars on the LORD's command.

So if you believe Jesus is part of your LORD the he is involved! Just that when Jesus came to earth he was meek!

Did you find it difficult to comprehend what I said? How many Prophets you see fought RELIGIOUS WAR/BATTLE for God as Muhammad did for allah the lover of Islam?


There were prophecies about Muhammad, ohhh Jesus Christ of Nazareth dey have come again ooo.. Okay show those prophecies with reference

AntiChristian:
Jerusalem is part of Israel. So what does that hold? All nations got Prophet(s).

So you knw Jerusalam is part of Israel, why showing your stupidity here then by saying God sent TWO different books to Israel (Zabur and Injeel)? God is not as confused like allah Muhammad forcefully invented on you slaves..

See incase not to continue showing your stupidity here on public forum like this, ARAB NATIONS has NO history of Prophethood, Muhammad is not a true and genuine prophet is that clear

AntiChristian:
This is why I don't want to reply you.

Mention the verse(s) that states that a Prophet must be anointed to be a Prophet?

Then state how Abraham, Moses and Noah were anointed in the Bible?

Just keep laughing and let me reply people who get sense.

If Muhammad was truly A Prophet he should has A prophesy recorded about him, but comparing Muhammad with the likes of Abraham, Noah, Moses Even Jesus Christ doesn't worth it. None of the names mentioned above ever fought for religious activities but why is Muhammad's own case differ from others if truly he was a prophet?

AntiChristian:
Yes, God sent them to where He wills!

And think about it, how do you think the Torah was preserved thousands of years ago when they had to copy and copy it with ink and pen for months to make a copy!

Is Jerusalem not part of Israel? Let's start from there

AntiChristian:
After that came David's Zabur for his people around Jerusalem.

After that came Jesus' Injeel for the Children of Israel.

And the final scripture in Qur'an for the entire mankind and Jinn.

Is Jerusalem not part of Israel or you need Google map? So God sent two diff books to two diff nations is that what you're saying?

At least you carry you head come home, dey never shout allahu akbar for you

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