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I've used Millwall, Arsenal, Salamanca, Barnet etc. Basically a new team for each version!

Grizz: Hah hah. Sure. The game didn't make any character or any move off-limits so suck it up. Do you complain when shao kahn whoops your butt with his stupid hammer or occasional invincibility? Its all part of the game. This is just like the time some guy was complaining about how i beat him in naruto because i "dodge too much". Anyways, if i had to, i could still crush you all with my ermac, smoke or cyber sub-zero.

Errm, I'm not complaining, I've dealt more damage with Scorpion than anyone else!

P.S. Shao Kahn isn't a playable character.

I used to be an FM addict when i had lots of time, no offense!

Fez - forking genius!

duduspace: Debo, you still dey on this Walcott long thing hen?
When I was telling you here that if Arsene had not bowed to the English pressure and had given Vela all the game time Theo got that we would have a much better well rounded attacking player, you were yarning all kinda dust.
The boy never prove am for La Liga now?

See the kain stats the boy is delivering with just 1 season of consistent footie?

Starts Subs Goals Assists
26 7 12 7

Compare with Theo who plays in an Arsenal team that keeps possesion and has better quality players all over the pitch and also compare the variety in his goals including bicycle kicks and shots from 25 yards outside the box which you hardly/never ever see Theo doing.

Starts Subs Goals Assists
32 2 8 8

I know it isn't likely the boy will stay with us any longer except Arsene can really convince him he will get game time, but they'd better put all kinds of clauses they can think of in the deal that takes him to Sociedad cos I can almost assure you he will be in a top 4 La Liga club within the next 2 years via a considerable transfer fee.

The new Messi!

T'base:
How can i download the cfw if my browser doen'st work am at a lost here or am i sopposed to man i am tottaly confuse

Obviously the CFW should be downloaded with your computer, did you read the walk-through at all?

Scorpion's Hell Raiser special move is the cheapest in the whole game. It keeps foes scared/wary/in motion, allowing him to deal serious damage!

Hehehe, see paragraphssssssss.

Fear not, Newcastle will beat City blackish bluish.

Not even in the top 1,000. . .

That was the single sickest moment of the season hands down!!!

lalaboi: oh!!. . Now its luck-based

25% skill 75% luck!

Well, thank Lucifer for luck-based games otherwise nuccas with poor IQ like Ibime and Lalaboiy would have committed suicide before adulthood!

Nuccahs like Captain Amangala are usually "good" at Ludo whilst nuccahs like Sir 4k-A-Lot are Chess grandmasters.

Ibime: [size=14pt]Cockblockers' season ends with limp surrender to Galacticos
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Prolific Cockblockers fans were today waking up to the bitter news that their team have suffered a resounding defeat to Galacticos. A cacophany of laughter greeted Cockblockers' demise as rival managers could not pass up the opportunity to poke fun at Sir 4k-a-lot. FPL news caught up with rival manager Captain Amangala at the fishing port of Ipukulubiye, a 5 minute boat ride from Borokiri, PH where the Ipukulu Marines are based.

According to Amangala, "Sir 4k-a-lot is an eediot. Its a case of a fool counting his chickens before they hatch." Sir 4k-a-lot had stocked his team with double gameweek players and had taunted rival managers before Gameweek 36 believing he had superior firepower. According to Amangala "4k-a-lot claimed that Ipukulu Marines were lucky not to draw Cockblockers, but even if we had drawn them this week, we would have beaten them." Amanagala went on to add "what's the point of dominating the regular H2H season, only to fall at the first hurdle in the play-offs? Kai, this guy is trophyless once again."

Lol. For the record i never said I'd beat Galacticos, in fact you were the one blowing me trumpet:

Ibime: Ipukulu Marines and Cockblockers are already through to the semi-final.

At least now you've admitted you are an "eediot", we already knew you were a phool!

coogar: the statistics was supposed to cover till 11/12.

Hehehe, it was "supposed to" cover 2012. That means you can type whatever rubbish you like as long as you tell us later on what it was actually "supposed to" mean, lol.

[size=14pt]the statistics was cut from 06/07 to 11/12(6 seasons)[/size].
have you lost your ability to count? 06/07, 07/08, 08/09, 09/10, 10/11, 11/12(the last 6 seasons)!!!

To sum up, they were "supposed to" cover 2012, but you "couldn't be arsed" to update so you posted data up till 2011 for 5 seasons and claimed they covered six seasons/2012 irrespective, fuc[color=#000000]k[/color]ing genius!

the statistics i intended to cut was from 06/07 till 11/12(6 seasons) but i couldn't be arsed
to update it till this season and i provided the last one i calculated which was 23rd of march
last year. how can i put up the stats i admitted was correct till 23rd of march 2011 and claim
it covered up till this season.

Good question, YOUR failure to provide a tangible answer is worrisome. . . My initial question was:

Before you question my math, you should address yours first. According to the data you gave, which you claimed was from March 23 2011, Rooney had scored 71 goals "over the last SIX seasons", which is impossible considering the fact he scored 80 league goals between 05/06-09/10 alone(FIVE seasons), maybe you're trying to tell us he scored -9 goals in the other season!!!

Your Answer:

the statistics was cut from 06/07 to 11/12(6 seasons).
have you lost your ability to count? 06/07, 07/08, 08/09, 09/10, 10/11, 11/12(the last 6 seasons)!!!

Why did YOU claim(twice) the stats covered six seasons including 11/12 when you knew you weren't arsed to update it?

You keep tying yourself in tortuous knots with silly lies when just admitting you made a simple mistake(5 instead of six) would suffice.

Grizz: $600

True story!

coogar: i said in the last 6 seasons, many players are ahead of van persie. i then showed you the stats from 2006/7 till march 23rd 2011*. i NEVER said the stats i showed covered 6 seasons.

coogar: the statistics was cut from 06/07 to 11/12(6 seasons).

How do you correlate the highlighted text in red/green if you are not insane?

for feck's sake, your thought process is slower than earth's revolution around the sun.
06/07 - 14 goals
07/08 - 12 goals
08/09 - 12 goals
09/10 - 26 goals

total - 64 goals.

up until march 23rd of 2010/2011, rooney added just 7 goals to the 64 goals making it 71 league goals.

06/07 - 10/11 is five seasons, I've already quoted you saying and i repeat:

the statistics was cut from 06/07 to 11/12(6 seasons).

... Which renders your latest argument as idiotic as the last.

I'm now convinced you are being stup[color=#000000]i[/color]d intentionally cos no multi-cellular organism is capable of this level of daftness.

coogar: stop being an odious tool.
the statistics was cut from 06/07 to 11/12(6 seasons).
have you lost your ability to count? 06/07, 07/08, 08/09, 09/10, 10/11, 11/12(the last 6 seasons)!!!
this was why tevez and berbatov were included in the stats.....they both joined the league in 06/07
i even made the effort to explain torres' stats by putting an asterick cos he joined in 07/08.
yet, the idiotic ritchboy still didn't get it.

First of all you are a terrible liar. How can the stats be from 2006/2007-2011/2012 when you said they were published in March 2011? Does the guy who gathered them have access to a time-machine? See as you dey disgrace yourself left, right and center!

Secondly, even if your mystery friend has a time-machine, Rooney scored 75 league goals between 06/07-10/11(again FIVE seasons), did he score -4 goals in the SIXTH season or how did you arrive at 71 goals over six seasons?

You are now on the brink of dethroning Ibime as the phattest phool in the Milky Way!

coogar: you are a tool of legendary proportions.
what crunching numbers are you talking about? 157 goals/assists in 165 games for rooney?
that is a huge lie. i will like to see the breakdown of your phantom math - how you got there.
pound for pound(even if we include the fact that rooney played as a midfielder in about 6 games
for united), rooney is just heads n shoulders above robin van persie. torres, drogba, tevez etc are also ahead.

Hehehe, the boy cannot believe how good RvP's numbers are!!!

Before you question my math, you should address yours first. According to the data you gave, which you claimed was from March 23 2011, Rooney had scored 71 goals "over the last SIX seasons", which is impossible considering the fact he scored 80 league goals between 05/06-09/10 alone(FIVE seasons), maybe you're trying to tell us he scored -9 goals in the other season!!!

If you don't believe my numbers, no one is stopping you from fetching the accurate figures on your own, after all YOU are the one who started the six-season analysis!

I'm sure you can count @ Rooney's 80 league goals between 06-10:

dayokanu: This should interest you.

This season Van persie

in the CL has 20 shots and 4 goals making 5 shots to make 1 goal
In The EPL has 161shots and 28goals making 5.75 shots to get 1 goal

This season Mario Gomez

In the CL has 38shots and 12 goals he takes 3.16shots to get 1 goal
In the BL has 98 shots and 26goals He takes 3.7 shots to get 1 goal


[size=28pt]NOW TELL ME SOMETHING ABOUT EFFICIENCY[/size]

Chei, this boi na proper olodo!

The explanation is simple: style/position of play. Gomez is a poacher and like all poachers is expected to have a high conversion ratio because of the type of shots he takes. Hernandez' shots-goal ratio is probably twice Messi's, that must make him godly in your world but over here it's nothing special. Maybe Gomez and Chicharito are "more efficient" than Messi in A Land Far Far Away.

Ibime: Because 14 of those goals come in Europa League plus many more are penalties.

Gomez has scored more pure goals minus penalties.

Secondly, Huntelaar does not hold the ball up like Gomez and is not central to his teams tactical play.

Huntelaar vs RVP this season is a debate I'd happily accept.

Huntelaar > RVP in 2011/2012!

Before i get into this it may interest you and your partners in stupidity to know after recalling a couple instances of Gomez taking pens on Bundesliga Highlights Show, I've taken the liberty of looking up Gomez' stats and discovered he's actually scored 5 penalties this season, same number as RvP, which blows half your argument to smithereens and proves beyond reasonable doubt you are the phattest phool among Nairaland's 888 thousand contingent.

Because 14 of those goals come in Europa League plus many more are penalties.

I'm sure there are many good teams in Europa League better than Bundesliga teams i.e I remember Hunter scoring a hat-trick against Twente and another goal vs Bilbao, both decent teams. Gomez also scored pens.

Gomez has scored more pure goals minus penalties.

Another big lie. Gomez has 36 goals minus pens, Hunter has 38 goals minus pens. Ibime proves clueless for the umpteenth time.

Secondly, Huntelaar does not hold the ball up like Gomez and is not central to his teams tactical play.

Hunter holds the ball up pretty well, is way better than Gomez technically, superior natural finisher and does many things better. Lol @ "central to his team's tactical play", now you're just making rubbish up as it unfolds, fucki[color=#000000]n[/color]g hilarious. It may also interest you to know Hunter has 15 ASSISTS *without corners* on top of his 47 goals.

Of course only a mad man says Gomez is better than RvP simply because he's scored more goals then turns around to make this pitiful argument. I've just murdered you with cold facts, read em and weep!

coogar: this was the statistic as at march 23 last year.
i can't be arsed to update but as you can see, there are many strikers in the league
who has contributed more than van persie as far as creativity is concerned.

1. Rooney 118 (71 goals + 47 assists)
2. Berbatov 110 (68 + 42)
3. Lampard 109 (61 + 48)
4. Drogba 108 (71 + 37)
5. Fabregas 97 (30 + 67)
6. Tevez 95 (67 + 28)
7. Gerrard 87 (47 + 40)
8. v. Persie 81 ( 49 + 32)
9. Torres* 81 (65 + 16)

torres joined the premier league in 2007/8 and he still tied van persie.

Mr Mumu, learn to read properly. I said goal+assist ratio not goal+assist totals. Why would you count totals when RvP has missed a gazillion games through injury over the last six seasons? I also find it disturbing you see it fit to use data from March 23 2011 when RvP, Rooney etc have copped a shitload of goals/assists since then and the first of the "six seasons'" data from that time would be redundant/excluded NOW.

I also decided to take the liberty of crunching the numbers and discovered Rooney has roughly 157 goals/assists in 165 games(90 minutes equaling one game) over the last six seasons, while RvP has a whooping 131 goals/assists in just 121 games over the same period, which should comfortably be the best in the league at present(as i earlier expected), if not in Premier League history(Henry being the biggest question mark).

Y'all can hate the flying Dutchman all you want, but whether we judge by stats, ability or both, he aces all before him!

Ibime: And only a mumu like yourself will give RVP precedence over DD in an era where Chelsea have won 3 league titles, 3 FA Cups, 1 Carling Cup, reached 6 UCL semi-finals and 2 finals with Drogba as the central character.


Ritchboy, you need deliverance!!!

How is Chelsea winning the league(team achievement) relevant to this discourse(individual quality), especially when you consider the fact Drogba scored just 10 and 12 league goals respectively in the first two seasons Chelsea won the league? Of course only rubbish players like Drogba and John O'Shea hide behind team success. Drogba can't be the central character in Roman era when we have cats like Lampard(who you've previously led us to believe is the central character), Terry, Carvalho, Essien, Makelele, Cech, etc far far far more consistent, while Drogba has never had two good seasons on the bounce at Chelsea. In fact he's only had two good seasons in a Chelsea shirt after eight years, it's a forking disgrace!

What I'm really interested in knowing is why Gomez' 40 goals + 6 assists make him better than RvP(35 goals + 14 assists) but Huntelaar's 47 goals + 15 assists don't make him better than Gomez and every other striker for that matter.

coogar: feck me sideways - van persie in pecking order is below drogba, rooney, tevez and torres.
where's van persie on the list of goals + assists copped in the last 6 seasons?

Even without checking I already know only Rooney can compete with RvP's goal+assist ratio of all the players you listed and even Rooney probably falls short. You should do your homework before you start typing nonsense of this caliber!

Ibime: What a silly question.

RVP does everything better than Drogba, but the one thing Drogba does better (hold up play, target man, aerial strength) has been crucial to Chelsea team for almost a decade and has impacted the Premier League, Champions League and everything else more than anything RVP could ever do. When people are looking back on the era 2000 - 2015, Drogbas influence would take precedence over RVP.

Likewise, when Gomez is leading attack for Bayern, defenders just dont know how to handle him.


Nobody would ever compare Gomez and DD with RVP on a technical level. . . . but for their contribution to the team, all bets are off!!

Hehehe, the arguments are getting more re[color=#000000]ta[/color]rded by the minute. . .

I can understand how highly you rate Drogba cos you support Chelsea, but the fact of the matter is Drogba can only be legend at a shyte club like Chelsea!

Sharon used to tell us how RvP has only scored 20+ goals once in his Arsenal career even when he was playing on the wings or as a second striker and suffering long term injuries, i find it absolutely hilarious Drogba has only scored 20+ goals TWICE after EIGHT seasons in a team always there or thereabout(RvP is now on 3 and he's only had ONE full season as a center forward). Only a 5-star m0ron like Ibime would even put Drogba's name on the table.

Drogba cannot lace RvP right boot not to mention his left, only reta[color=#000000]r[/color]ded Chelsea fans like yourself(and I'm sure there are many more) would rate Drogba over RvP when "looking back on the era 2000 - 2015".

coogar: it's arguable. and you can also argue for mario gomez!
van persie is behind these 2 players stats-wise.

Mr Mumu, your first statement here was "there is NO ARGUMENT" for RvP cos Gomez has scored more this season, now you're turning round to say Gomez vs Huntelaar is "arguable" when Huntelaar has comfortably outscored Gomez. . .

your idiotic reasoning shines through again. what else does van persie do better than gomez?

Are you blind? I've already given many examples. Take your pick!

the bulk of van persie's assists are from set pieces.

Lie. How many goals has he assisted from set-pieces? Max 4. All the other assists came from where, your SNES?

i would take mario gomez.
he's been on this goalscoring spree for so long to be considered a fluke. even with talented players such as robben/ribery,
gomez still finds a way of scoring bazillion goals.

How long? The same Gomez that was misfiring just two seasons ago?

this is van persie's only time of blazing a league in his career. how do we know this isn't a fluke?

I've already pointed out his goal-ratio was actually better last season.

and he's 29.

I've also pointed out he's 28. Are you and Dayokanu competing to see who can register more goofs per millisecond?

besides, van persie can only work in a team bereft of talented players where everything must go through him.
in arsenal, everything goes through him. all the other outfield players look for him to do the deal.

This is the most ret[color=#000000]a[/color]rded thing I've ever read. Let's even assume it's true, anyone with half a brain should known it's harder to score goals in a bad team than a good one.

deduct van persie's cornerkicks, indirect freekicks and penalties scored from that stats then come back n have a proper debate.

Why should we deduct it? Is it RvP's fault Gomez cannot take set-pieces? Perhaps we should also deduct the goals Gomez scored from corners/indirect freekicks since RvP isn't in the box to receive the set-pieces he takes.

Come to think of it, is it not the same Sharon that used to tell Dayokanu how one goal in the EPL is worth two in Bundesliga?

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The release date is 29th of April 2012.

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[size=14pt]China To Launch a New Console. Price Tag: $600![/size]

For years now, there have been rumblings about the eBox, or its other moniker, the iSec. Yet, the console was pushed back, and then it seemed to vanish completely. Well, it's back and slated to come out soon. Real soon.


Now called CT510, this is the Chinese game console the Lenovo backed and co-invested in—the first of its kind. In China, video game consoles are banned. Yet, Beijing Eedoo Technology Ltd., the company developing the CT510, said this week that the console will be released in China on April 29. It will be priced at 3,799 yuan ($600) per unit, and it comes with eight pre-installed games.

Last fall, it was priced at 3,000 yuan, which was then $470.

Like Kinect, the CT510 features control-free motion-controls. According to Eedoo head Jack Luo, the CT510 is only the second home console to feature an entirely controller-free home console. The console is targeting casual players and not hardcore gamers. It also seems to be targeting people with $600 to spare.

China Daily reported that the console was delayed for about a year because, as Luo said, Eedoo required more time to "further improve the product and provide a better user experience".

Even though the console is slated to come out, it's unclear how this machine can bypass the Chinese game console ban, which outlaws "game boxes", and be legally sold in China.

And once it does go on sale, does that mean that Japanese and American console companies can legally sell their hardware in China?

The PS3, the Xbox 360, and the Nintendo Wii are widely sold throughout China, but via the country's gray market.

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Grizz: Whats happening?

Witchcraft!

BlueDiva: The gods seem to be favouring RDM.
Newcastle has been spanked, the ball is our court.

I say win all the remaining fixtures and we might even finish 3rd.
As usual we all know Arsenal is wanked at the business end of the season.

Dream on Diva!

RDM may have done well in Europe but his record in the league is even worse than AVB in terms of both performance and results. Chelsea have even slipped form 5th to 6th under Di Matteo's guidance.

(H) Stoke 1-0
(A) Man City 1-2
(H) Tottenham 0-0
(A) Aston Villa 4-2
(H) Wigan 2-1
(A) Fulham 1-1
(A) Arsenal 0-0

Chelsea were pretty rubbish in ALL these games and have 42% win ratio compared to AVB's 48%

If you want to make top-four, bring AVB back!!!

coogar: ritchboy, no argument.....
gomez has been better than van persie in the current season.
the nazi beanpole might lack skills but everything he's hit this season turned to goals.
40 goals in 41 stats - only messi/ronaldo are better than gomez as far as goalscoring is concerned.
some would even wager huntelaar's season has been better than van persie's.

Huntelaar has 46 goals in 47 games, he must be the best striker in Europe. . .

Gomez scores goals, RvP scores goals, the difference is RvP does everything else far better than Gomez. Unless you have dog-s[color=#000000]h[/color]it for brains it's obvious who the better player is.

Simple question to Ibime/Coogar, who would you rather have on your team, RvP, Gomez or Huntelaar? Answers on two postcards.

dayokanu: What does the league the play in affect how many goals they score in the CL? Was Gomez scoring 12 CL goals vs Bundesliga team?

Who said this? Is the debate exclusive to UCL performance?

WHats style of play or overall contribution? Gomez contribution in overall team play starting from offensive pressing to actual defence beats anything Persie can do in his whole life

Pressing and defence?

There's not a single skill in football RvP doesn't execute better than Gomez, passing, dribbling, crossing, technique, set-pieces, first-touch name it. You must be high on dragon-fart to be making this reta[color=#000000]r[/color]ded argument.

CL matters because this is where you play the toughest teams in Europe, If not for CL games would Man Utd ever get tested against a team like Barca, Madrid or bayern? If not for CL, Madrid would only play one team on their level twice in 12 months but in the CL they get tested by Milans, Chelseas, Man City's, Bayerns, Juve etc

UCL is not a league, in other words you don't play all, if any, of the so-called top-teams, when Porto won in 2004 how many top teams did they face? Teams in England currently play more "tough teams" than any team has ever done in UCL history.

Van persie played 7 CL games and has 4 goals Gomez played 11 and has 12 goals, Bring out your calculator and crunch the goal/game ratio.

Drogba played 6 games and scored 5 goals, is he also better than RvP? This reminds me of the daft arguments i used to read here saying Zidane is better than Messi because he performed better at International level.

FYI Gomez has scored against all the teams he played in the CL.

And how many teams has he faced? 5 or 6 at most. RvP scored against 17 of the 19 teams he faced in the league, EPL record.

Penalties matter because you are given the ball 18yards away and have no defenders pressure, No other situation mirrors this in football.

A penalty means you still have the goalie to beat, and the "pressure" of missing is still present. Does any other situation mirror tapping the ball into an empty net from 6 yards(Gomez' bread/butter)? When we're counting Ronaldo's goals this season should we remove the offside goal he scored against Bayern or that is more legit than a penalty in your own universe?

I also wasn't aware penalties are played from 18 yards now

That Gomez can score at a big club is also false, because he was beasting the scorers chart in VFB stuttgart. In 5CL games for Stuttgart has 3 goals a better record that Persie playing for a team worse than Arsenal.

I'm sure Stuttgart were German champions during Gomez' time in the first team. Are you having a laugh? 3 in 5 vs 4 in 6 starts?

Van persie takes Arsenal freekicks and Corners therefore his assists stats are expected to be high, Gomez takes neither, All his assists come from open play which makes him a better player.

For RvP to be taking corners ahead of capable midfielders like Arteta and Rosicky then you know there's a reason, RvP's in-Player is second to none. He takes them because he has an exceptional ability to do so, not because he has the best hair-do. If Gomez took corners Bayern would never score from them, your argument is weak.

Also, if you argue corners help his assists(though Arsenal aren't exactly renowned for being prolific from set-pieces), I can also argue taking set-pieces damages his goalscoring because he's not in the box when the corners/free-kicks are delivered.

Scores more, defends better, Doesnt depend on Penalties, Scored in a top club as well as middle clubs, Scored against all opposition he has played

RvP has only four pens out of 35 goals which makes your "depends on penalties" statement laughable. Stuttgart were German champions when Gomez was there and that's your definition of a "middle club"? Bayern and the 16 other teams must have been basement clubs.

Every when playing for Stuttgart Gomez scoring efficiency trumps Persies in Arsenal

Big lie.

In The BL Gomez scores a goal every 93 min, Persie scores a goal every 113 mins

In the CL Gomez scores a goal every 71 mins, Persie scores a goal every 124 min

Huntelaar scores every 89 minutes this season, unless you agree this instant that makes him better than Gomez then you are blowing hot-air.

Mcleo007: IMO, Alba will make a good buy. We need to rid ourselves off the Abidal factor real quick cos I don't see any quality left back of Abi's mould out there.

Gareth Bale can play left-back and is 6 foot plus. . . He's also valued at just 40m

Ibime: Are you guys having a laugh?

Mario Gomez has scored 40 goals this season (minus penalties).

RVP has scored 30 goals from open play.

This is why you are globally known as a phat phool. . .

Instead of being intellectually lazy and simply adding up how many goals scored from open play, you should also consider the quality of the teams they play for and the leagues they play in, not to mention their style of play and overall contribution.

Is a penalty any less legit than a tap-in or an offside goal? Maybe we should start subtracting those in future debates as well.

In Europe, Gomez has beasted RVP.

How many games did RvP play in Europe? How many goals did he score? Gomez has 12, good for him, why is Europe more relevant, other than the fact it supports your argument?

RVP may be more skillful, but like Gerd Muller, no amount of skill competes with Gomez' deadly efficiency.

You are either being intentionally deceptive or you're a block-head. This is like saying " David Silva may be more skillful than Junior Agogo..."

RvP's technique is light years ahead of Gomez, i don't know what rubbish you are chatting here. Gomez can only score goals(not exactly rocket-science at a top-club), but when you have a player that can score goals as well as create, "keep shape"([c] Nando ) and ask the opposition different types of questions then you know that's rare.

Where was Gomez' "deadly efficiency" when he was spurning chance after chance v Madrid? What do you know about Muller? What you read on Goal.com?

Gomez has been Europe's premium no 9 this season despite what Gaynners may say.

Even if i adopt your simple minded approach of judging players(stats alone), RvP's 35 goals + 14 assists > Gomez' 40 goals + 6 assists.

This boy is a tool oh. . .

A. RvP is 28 not 29.

B. RvP has scored 20+ goals in three different seasons despite his regular 5-month sabbaticals.

C. RvP's goal-ratio last season was actually better than this season's @ 1 season wonder.

D. Mario Gomez is the worst striker in the Milky Way