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PinkNature:
You should grace this page more often Rizz. 💪

Thanks, will post often. Been busy. Also, the thread is a bit far from my philosophy.

Most of what is posted here is just theory, hear say and complete bs.

Will start a fresh thread tailored towards seducing women effectively and building genuine, sweet relationships.

Fùcking women is way easier than before for those who know. Because most men have gotten weaker

DonroxyII:
So Many Madmen abounded thinking they are forming Odogwu like there Grandpa without Understanding that time has changed ... Your Grandpa incarcerated women against their wishes but this is Globalisation World beyond your Grandpa Village ...

Women are now liberated even if she be Virgin .. she go don watch P.or.n Tire & If she be Street... Even Railway 🛤 go fit pass ....

Take it or leave it ... Women are now more Matured than Before ... Just Up Ya Games instead of Going Mad(Redpilling)

Women are still women. And in the era of social media, gossips, and bad advice they are more confused than before

Women aren't more mature. Men are rather more immature, weaker and emotional

Valoromega:
I've been married for a while now and I have a daughter.

My wife and I has always had issues, anytime issues arise her first reaction is to leave the marriage.

She has said this several time and u cautioned her about the statement because I don't like it ( she's making it seem she's doing me a favor by marrying me)

So last week we got into an issue because of my younger sister who I gave money to for her store rent, my wife found out about it and was very angry, she said that I gave my sister money without informing her and that she needed Money I refused to give her ( I gave her 150k Dat same day to change her Clothes).
She also accused me of cheating which was not true, she said she very young and fresh and she can go outside anytime.

She had once told me that she had cheated on her boyfriend with another guy once when she was in school because the boyfriend was misbehaving.

So I thought about everything and the fact that she continuously accuses me of being a bad husband, and abusive husband ( I've never hit her before) and that she was tired of the marriage.

So I'm thinking of calling her father and collecting the bride price I paid for her because I'm tired of the whole thing

She'll cheat on you soon or already has. Anyways time to pack up this marriage.

You were a side nigga she used for fun. No big deal. Keep smashing or move on

I just read in a comment someone saying "Exchange numbers with a girl then wait till she initiates contact. She must lead every step of the way"


I've seen a lot of useless comments on this thread. But that one up ther was so useless i laughed so hard.

Why?

Apart from the fact the man should lead every step of the way (NOT the woman) that comments reveals a fundamental lack of understanding of how men think/feel.

If you had to add another definition of women to the dictionary it will be this:

Specie of humans that HATE RESPONSIBILITY.

Nothing is more unseductive and annoying to women (besides boredom) than responsibility.

This is why they're ready to blame the moon and stars (but themselves) for their actions. Responsibility puts pressure on them. And they hate it

That's why unplanned or unexpected sex is sweet to them. Because it required no active preparation or responsibility

The moment you place things into the hands of women in seduction, you've already started failing. Even worse, If you do it in a relationship

Men who don't take the lead or lead women will face so many problems with women they'd wish they were gay.

So to summarise, women hate responsibility and leadership. That's why they rely on you (men) to do it

OG316:
Boss abeg come teach me game

Good game is simply seducing a woman effectively & fùcking her in as little time and with little effort/resources as possible by STIMULATING her emotions

As a man you have time & money as your main resources. If you spend long amounts of time or used money to have sex with a woman... then that is by definition bad game.


Now there are the stages of game:

---First. At this stage, you successfully seduce her & fùck her

---Second. This stage, you keep her coming back for more. This is where you retain girls and put them on rotation.. the more girls you have the more enjoyable a rotation. The more times a woman fùcks the more invested she is


--Third... Keeping one or more multiple women loyal to only you in relationships for long periods of time (anything more than 5 years). This is the pinnacle of game. The ability to keep one or more woman loyal to you both physically and emotionally while you enjoy the pleasures of other women. Anything below 5 years doesn't count. Below 5 years is honey moon phase. Things are still going reasonably well... and things still feel novel. From 6 years onwards that's when the real game begins.

2 years is when most men fall off. 6th year about 80% of men fall off. By the 9th year only less than 5% of men can keep a woman loyal, devoted and excited.

To continue....

Good game requires you ACTUALLY meet women (online, during day, at night, social circle, events, schools) etc. The more experience you have with women, the better your understanding

Good game also requires your meet to fùck ratio should be solid. Meaning if you meet 10 women, you should sleep anywhere from 4 to 7 of them consistently. And they must be good looking. Fat girls or ugly girls do not count. Very Low status girls do not count too.

Regarding your question around learning game... you want to be able to create and maintain sexual tension... you want her to lust over you. BECAUSE if there's no lust then there's no love

90% of the time when a girl says "I'm no longer feeling my bf anymore" or "I no longer find him sexually attractive" it is BECAUSE her lust for him has died.


Recently, I met a girl a church good girl who promised God she'd never give blow jobs or fùck till she's ready (fiance or husband). She showed me her book where she wrote everything. And said she has kissed before and she takes these things very seriously.

Fantastic. Of course, I knew when a woman has immense lust for you... She'll do ANYTHING.

After we spent some time together, guess what she was doing? She sucked my dìck soo hard and her excuse was "I don't know what came over me" After we bleeped (she was a virgin) she cried that she has broken her promise to God. She was crying so much I had to console her and let her know sooner or later it would have happened and she's not a bad person.

Of course, after the whole consoling we fùcked again and made real love( one of my sweetest love making experiences)

I'm telling you this because lust is what she wants to feel towards you.

Female intimacy gadget industry is about $20 billion. Why? Because majority of what women fantasize about is how to get fùcked & used in the bedroom.

Once you inspire lust in her... She'll be grateful for you

Women's Emotions Rule Them

The same way Samsung's operating system is android, is the same way women's OS is their emotions.

Once emotional(happy, sad, angry, fun, Hot) women will change their plans, fùck whoever they like, and do just about anything she claimed she'll never do.

That last line is VERY important. Pay close attention.

Anytime a woman say's anything and later on you find out she did the opposite of what she said... NEVER call her out on it. Never tell a woman these or similar: "you SAID you'll always love me" "you SAID you'll never do that" "you PROMISED you'll never do that to me"

The moment you let a woman see that you believe her words, she sees you as weak. Woman know firsthand their words don't mean shit. They themselves don't take it seriously.

Women operate on moods/emotions in that moment/environment/time. If it feels right to fùck a guy she just met, she will.

I cannot how many times in this life girls have said "we're not having sex tonight or ever" and STILL fùck later. At this point, when I hear it, I roll my eyes and smirk. I've heard it so much it's now boring.

Use this formula anytime a woman says things to you: Attach "Feel" to the beginning of her sentence. Then attach "right now" to the end.

Her emotions are everything. It's her internal compass. When you can manipulate it, you can fùck her. This includes anger/frustration/sadness... if you can get her to feel anything, you're in a good position.

That's why indifference is the opposite of love. not hate

Nowar:
Good morning bosses.
I’m an old member of this forum ..
I need your advice on something. Pls it’s going to be a very long post. Luminous , jeshal007, dontrulee and others, pls I need you to read this.
I have been in relationship with this girl for 4 years, she’s a graduate and a 100/10 beauty wise .. when I
say beauty wise, Omo ehn she’ll be regarded as one of the most beautiful and attractive woman you’ll ever come across, , . Lol..
her cooking is 8/10..
respect 5/10..
Intelligence generally 5/10
Exposure 4/10( most of her exposure na wetin she dey read on phone lol)
Intelligence bookwise 4/10
A graduate .
Beautiful is honestly speaking 1000/10( imagine a Beyoncé and nenji put together )..
Age 23
Wealth - nil
She barely talks outside , infact people would say she’s proud lol.. but inside she can talk ehn,

Now here’s the thing, her mom has divorced twice , and she doesn’t have a good or bad relationship with her dad. Her dad married 4 women. And from little I’ve known, her dad is present in her life , sometimes they visit their dad during festive times..
When we met, I was not doing bad , although was still living with my parents, but from all indications , I was doing well by my age …


During the course of this four years , I have progressed tremendously , she among others influenced my decisions of going for my degree and moving out of my parents house. I had NATIONAL DIPLOMA when we met and was living in a room inside my parent house. she was running her degree then) . up till now, she barely knows net worth, I’ve always given her the impression that I am average money wise. In all honesty and to be fair , she’s not that money freak, but she’s ft to these girls, which one should I choose, tbh I’ve dated a lot of girls before I narrowed down my options to this .

I'm more concerned you narrowed your options and it came down to these girls.

Something is clearly wrong with your selection/filtering process.

Anyways the tl/Dr is none of these girls fit the role. The closest is the 1st girl. But her mum divorced twice, abortion for ex aren't helping her case her.

Her knowing her dad married 4 wives helped in her forgiving you for cheating. Somewhere in her subconscious, she believes men are polygamous. This is important because you'll have to on some level let her know you have options. I believe you've been doing it already and she knows so keep it up.

Find out what her relationship with her dad is. Does she respect him? Listen to him? Etc.

Her relationship with her mum is also important especially she's divorced. Divorced mums tend to be Team "Leave that guy if he doesn't make you happy" They're more eager to make their daughters throw their relationships over flimsy excuses. In their minds they're looking out of their daughters but what they're actually doing is advising what the would do (hence the divorces)


Now, you don't have to compromise beauty for character. There are fine girls with good character... so I'll advise you to keep searching. Also, update your filtering process. 2 out of these girls have had abortions. Which means you likely jumped into relationships with these girls without knowing them in person for at least 3 - 5 months.


The 2 most important filtering process: 1) Her past history of cheating 2) Her relationship with her father. Ignore any nonsense on virginity. Virginity is not a filtering process. Anyone who has disvirgined enough girls would know.

Those 2 things are the most important. Meaning if a girl doesn't fit those two, nothing else matters. If she has cheated on her exes in the past... don't bother dating her. If she speaks bad or disrespects her dad... forget about it.


I understand you're eager to marry but you should calm down. You did well by stopping to check your girl's phone. It shows growth. If she's cheating... you'll know with the knowledge you have. Always remember No body can keep a secret like cheating in a relationship.


For the girl you're dating... find out those things about her and let me know. Also tell us how you met her and what the process like. Because how you met & got a girl will determine a lot in your relationship.

My gut feeling about her isn't good overall. I don't like the fact that her mum is divorced and she did an abortion for ex. (She may tell you it's just once but it could be more) However, I am not a black & white man. Human nature has many grey areas.

There's a possibility she's a changed person. Still, my gut feelings aren't on her or any of the girls

As I read through alarm bells were going off in my head for all girls.

Nobody's perfect, but these lack some raw materials to create an ideal woman. All the best

adambeatz:
My brother, most people think men are complicated but in reality we are simple creatures. Once a man can be in an enabling environment to be able to create and provide value to the society at large, he instinctively looks to setup a structure that'll be his kingdom. Then there's people who by nature are calm and reserved, they can go through the experience of life and come out on top but still crave for a peaceful environment.

Then there's the daughters of Eve, some who no matter how calmly and loving you treat them would never appreciate the environment you placed her in because at the back of her mind, she thinks you weak, boring and missing that spontaneous wild life.

What do you think happens when a calm reserved man gets pushed to the wall?. His patience meter overclocks and he does the unexpected by acting so extreme the society gets shocked, even the woman starts regretting cause she never realised the calm loving man she looked down on is actually a monster in disguise. Now regrets sets in, should the option she was aiming at outside doesn't work out she is forced in some cases to regret why she made that move. In some scenarios she instantly becomes an feminist and blames all men further propelling her delusional life.

My point, as a man, for the peaceful sanity of your state of mind, get you a woman that won't keep you in the edge all the time, most Nigerians have been born and raised under flight of fight mood and this affects them psychologically and they don't out grow a certain phase of their lives, they are stick stuck there while life is moving on, have you ever seen men and women who act childish, can't seem to control their emotions, na dem be that . Have you seen ladies for stable and loving homes, unless you haven't experienced it, you'd know what I mean, those babes are educated, and understand life to a certain extent, a kind of woman if she hears you've been sacked, she starts making calls, pull strings, and so on to get you something better instead of whining and bitching about .

There comes a time in a man's life he should leave the war front and grow his kingdom

''Even Kratos retire from war when en born pikin''

Your second paragraph makes it seem like you have hidden resentment for women.

That is how women are. Women are DIFFERENT from men. You shouldn't say "daughters of eve" as if it's a bad thing.

Women don't care about your investments and sacrifices. This is not necessarily a bad thing. This is just how they are

They only care about how you make her feel and her investment in you

Guys women are driven by emotions. Not your money. Not your cars. Not handsomeness. Women love emotions and it's one thing they can never get tired of

That's why horniness, anger, tests and drama are things that WILL NEVER go away.

The more you make a woman feel, the harder it is for her to leave. Making her feel starts from when you first meet her

Philosopher1979:
The issue is
Most women are aware of the game even before it started.
See they started toasting most girls between the ages of 13 to 18.
My nusc girlfriend said she was first toasted at 13.
Pick up artistry does not surprise girls. If u try it on a random girl on the street you will hear stiff like "sorry, I'm busy". If she like you she might just say "OK let's talk". They are aware before u even start toasting them.
A 24 year old simp trying to toast a girl is at a huge disadvantage. That 22 year old girl u are simping for has 4 boyfriends, gets toasted 10btimes a year and is just looking at ublikebu are no big deal. She is too experienced and if u don't have game, she will just exploit the guy.
If u are trying to toast a girl, she might just give u let us go straight to the point vibes. The game is rigged and most girls are too experienced.
When I talk to most girls
Me: hello
Girl: look I'm busy, I don't have time. Please just allow
Me: okay let's just have your number
Girl: she gives me her number or she just says don't bother u are wasting your time.
.I pity a 24 year old simp toasting one 23 year old girl with 4 boyfriends. She might reject him or just exploitvhim for money.
Girls are too experienced for most guys tonhandle
Also, most girls have an idea of the kind of guy they want. Some firms like tall guys so a short guy maybe wasting hus time.
Girls have too much experience. We guys don't know game and have to grow into it. A girl that met u us already thinking. CN I give him sex when will he asl for sex, should I just exploit him. OK let me entertain myself. Let's hear him entertain us.
Most guys are too naive and inexperienced with all sorts of blue pill .over.
A girl that does not like u might just ask for 70000 naira to see if she can exploit u and manage u if u have coins or hust try anything. Most guys are at the mercy of the girl thy are toasting. She can try anything and the guy will be afrid

First of all, "hello" is a terrible conversational starter. Most girls will ignore you and rightfully so. Tonight I'll post a comment here on the various mentality checkpoints a woman has before she bleeps you.

Second, a HUGE part of game is curiosity, intrigue and being DIFFERENT. If you can do these effectively, women will beg for your dìck

AlphaNugget:
Just a gentle reminder 🎗️

If a woman likes you, she will not make things difficult or complicated. 

she’ll make it obvious. No mixed signals, no confusion.

If you’re left guessing, it’s because she doesn’t really care.

Time to move on.

Your time is too valuable to be spent with women who do not value your presence.

🤞

Wrong. Women are different in their similarities. Some women will show mixed signals up to a point.

This your comment shows ignorance about how a woman's current mood, reality, age, experience and time of life affects her romantic relationships

Most single mothers are sweet, caring and supportive when they like you.

In fact, they can be so caring and well mannered you'd want to marry then asap.

But... it's a trap. They're merely pretending. Once they get what they want from you (marriage), her bad side will start showing.

Take note, I didn't say "true colour" Because someone's true color isn't just their bad side. It's a combination of good and bad. So, once she gets married to you, the bad side of her true color will show. And some times, it may not be a bad side you might want to deal with or handle.


The second reason why you should never marry a single mother is because she has a hidden resent for men. Her story is typical amongst single mothers. Their exes are always "deceiving" them.

But regardless of how sad their ex story is, she CHOSE to date him. CHOSE to sleep with him unprotected. So even though her ex will get a majority of the blame. She gets the blame too. No matter how bad she paints her ex, it's the same man she opened her legs for and had a baby with.... and it's the same man that's now the father of her child...

Which brings me to the third and biggest reason....

No matter what you do or sacrifice, no matter your love for each other.... that child will always be above you in her heart & mind. The child's needs and wants will be placed above yours.

Which means a strong connection and attraction will always be to her ex. Her ex can use the child to get to her heart and between her legs again and again.

Worst of all, the ex can make life a hell for you if he wants the child to come and stay with him. If the woman doesn't agree, you'll find yourself entering into a war you shouldn't be in.


On that note, the best thing is to repay her in whatever capacity she has supported you and bid her fare well.

The only time I MIGHT consider a guy marrying a single mother is if the father of the child is dead.

If not, it's a bad idea

HellVictorinho8:
rest!


i once asked a LUCKY FRIEND how he does it,then .....4get!

He was like u wanna 'steal' tha secret?


I laughed.


U guys think theres anything you do dat we avnt done ,well except d fvcking itself, theres nothing else and dat MAY BE TEMPORARY.


We may
We may neva do

Life is crazy


U cant really explain sh:t

U get what u want, u aint SO SMART, u dam lucky.

In fact,sum times,u jus cum across each other ,thatz anoda level 2 these things.


But
Nobody deserves to lack anything.

Fùcking different girls from different tribes in the most craziest of places consistently while being broke is not luck

I did it this in uni because for a while I didn't have money to rent an apartment. So I had to find ways to fùck since I can't bring girls to my hostel

The result was classroom, uncompleted building and back of toilet of fùcks

I'm talking sweet girls... some with rich bfs with furnished apartment ... sucķing dìck and getting fùcked behind uncompleted building

No luck here bro

luminouz:
All the fucking confidence in the world won't work if you can't provide like the guy who quoted talked of. Especially when she now foots your bills. If you are lucky, she doesn't react and hopes you bounce back. If you are not, well, you'd learn that some women don't care about your struggles, or how you react to adversity. They see provider and non provider and that's it

Congrats. Your comment just made it into my list of most ignorant, shallow comments on this thread.

And this is part of the reason why red pill tends to be detrimental to men. It makes you put women into one sided boxes.

Btw, this is not a case of where we can have different opinions. What you said is completely stùpid. And shows you have little experience with how women think.

Now let me break down for you...

First, only gold diggers see men as provider or non provider. Unless you're a clown, why would you pick a gold digger as a wife?
There are many things men bring to a relationship that women appreciate men for. You sound clueless when you say women see men as provider or not. Those are for gold diggers


Second, women CARE about how you respond to adversity or challenges. Because safety is important to her and how you respond is a show of your strength. So it is important to women


Third, by confidence... I mean you continue how you were behaving before you were unable to provide.

You make the decisions like you used to. If you really have game, she'll even send part of her salary money to your account. In fact, you'll dictate how her money is spent.

I've seen this happen on different occasions. A woman spending and taking care of her man for two years till he bounced back. All that matters is how you conduct and lead that relationship



Fourth ... "if you're lucky" is the cry of a man without skill... luck plays some role but nothing compared or significant to how you conduct yourself

The problem with most men is they place their self worth on providing. Once they're unable to... they become a shadow of themselves. They start acting in ways that even shocks the woman

A once confident, vibrant man is now a shadow of himself because he doesn't have money: That is the reason why she starts thinking of leaving

Even if she's the one footing the bills.... You can't sit there and do nothing or act depressed. That's how you invite see finish

If you actually have game, she will even give you money to start things up

And lastly, everything depends on the frame. If you start and base a relationship on money or providing then that is your problem and your fault

There are way more effective ways to frame a relationship besides money.

Stop placing your self worth on money alone. Later you guys complain why women bill you when you're implying that is money what makes you

As the saying goes "who use money buy love no dey pay finish"

Very simple. In Uni, I crafted my broke guy game and banged many girls in class rooms, uncompleted buildings, back of toilet, restaurant rest room.

When I mean many, I mean many. Even till now I still practice it with little change

The sweet thing about being broke is that girls will fùck you faster because she's Hot and since she knows you'll never make a good bf.... She'll rather just fùck you than put you in a long list of potential bf

Anyways, here's a simplified formula from my experience and some of my guys:

- Packaging. Just package well. Nothing flashy. Just neat

- confidence
- vibes: fun, naughty, being conversational

- selling the dream. Not telling her you'll buy her car, phone or house but showing you have prospects.

-Being dominant


For you, if you want to learn further... just ask those guys what they're doing. If you have issues understanding or replicating it.... come back and report what they tell you in a thread and I'll break it down for you

There might be things or advantages in your area they might be using. Learning from asking them and observing will help you out faster than anything anyone will tell you on NL

heironymos:
Guys help me analyze this I'm in a dilemma...

I have 2 girls and don't know which one to choose.
Let me start with their similarities:

They both are nursing graduates which I love, and are both from good homes with strong medical backgrounds and both of them have very good feminine characteristics and values.

Strengths and flaws ( at this point I will label them girl A and girl B):
Girl A: came out with a first class degree in nursing and going for a second degree in medicine in the US (Mom is a doctor). she has found me a 150k job excluding bonuses but I've not started cos I'm still serving nysc and she buys me stuff she thinks will look good on me even a phone but she is Not a virgin based I vetted her past and found out she has a body count of two...1 relationship lasted 7yrs and she swore that she never even bleeped that one and the first one she bleeped with was ready to marry her but things fell apart... long story...
I tested her recently by using another Facebook profile to ask her out and she failed by accepting to go out with the fake profile... she beg me seriously after I sent her screenshots of the chats and she even went further to expose herself to my mom and sisters to show me how remorseful she was and pleaded for a second chance... because of her character I'm willing to give her a second chance but...
Girl B: is a college graduate of nursing( Dad is a doctor and owns a hospital) she claims to be a virgin and only wants her future husband to be the one to take her virginity... but she agreed to give in to me if I will be her future husband.... when it comes to food both girls have a wide array of culinary skills but girl B is more sophisticated.

On proximity:

Girl A lives in my city while Girl B lives far from my city... I met both on Facebook and girl A actually left my birth city where she also resided and came to the city where I was serving with her own transportation fare, shingbain I no spend just to see me for the first time, as for girl B I haven't met her in person but we have been on video calls and she is enamored by me... She already works as a nurse in her father's hospital and she will be coming to see me hopefully by October ending...
In terms of looks girl A is a plain Jane I'd rate her a 5 while I will rate girl B a 6.5...

So guys looking at all this criteria who do u think I should pick based on ur analysis...cos left to me I will pick both... but girl B is not open to me exploring other hoes while girl a is comfortable with it as long as she wears the title of main girl or wife...so at a point in time I will have to choose 1 who may that be it's really tough for me cos they are both good girls and adhere to my authority... I await ur comments... thanks.

None of these women genuinely like you.

Girl A is looking for marriage so she'll pretend to be the right girl for you. Giving you money, a job, buying gifts and more are just some of the things women will do in order to land a husband. Besides you already caught her falling for someone else (even though it's you)


For the second Girl B. Virginity should never be used as a bargaining chip for marriage in that way.

The decision to keep her virginity (if true) should come from both of you

Wait till you meet this one. And actually find out if she's a virgin

adambeatz:
Nigeria is really a mess, men are really going through a lot,both married and single. One of my guys that got married 3 years ago is currently facing infidelity in his marriage. He lost his job as of 6 months back, was hell from then on in his home. His wife started giving attitude and when he confronted her she challenged him to his face, very embarrassing for someone who was financially buoyant back then but to fullfil his duties as a man is now a problem. His wife who he setup a side business for and got her a good paying job now talks to him anyhow. Guy man at times over hears his wife on phone with her family insulting him and she laughs about it. Last two weeks was when she slept off in the sitting room, he was about taking her inside the room when he saw her chat as the screen didn't lock. Guy man said he took his time and took screenshots and forwarded the voice notes with his wife's side piece. From then he locked up untill he landed a deal to supply materials to a Chinese company, he was paid 30% upfront but decided to keep quiet. He called us to go hangout some weeks back, when he was drunk he spilled what was going on in his home and how they still think he's broke but now that he's stable he doesn't want her to know what's up.

Everybody brought their ideas on how to handle it but I asked if he could forgive her, guy man swore that he can never forgive her in this life of the next, I told him the next step is simple, did you do court marriage, he said yes, told him to fake broke sell off everything sell what he can sell and cut her off, then after the divorce he can rub it in her face. My guy been a patient kind of guy bought the idea and is currently working on it, he bought a new car and keeps it's in a neighbours house for the mean time. If he wasn't capable on b*d it would have been a different thing buy guy man doesn't carry last in that department. Just wish him the best in going forward with that Jezebel.

You see that gender, when things are tough it takes an extraordinary woman to stick by you, I recently got one babe who is always billing me like mad, I was complying untill I reversed the game on her, honestly I expected her to fail but damn, she comes through for me like a guardian angel on standby, any avenue I would want to use to pin her down she doesn't argue and corrects herself sharply. Some ways she dresses I caution her, next time she readjusts herself. The babe no like long talks at all, still shit testing her to see but the babe just wants to chill and enjoy life without stress, every Friday she would buy drinks and food and drive down to my place so we can chill, when I realized it was a pattern I tried changing it but she quickly saw through it and explained why she pins me down Fridays due to insecurities in the country as Fridays are always days people go out to chill hence fights tends to break out in clubs and she is not someone that takes bad news lightly.

I've vetted from her friends who at first were beefing me cause they don't see her around but have no choice in the matter. The banny took me put to a party last Friday to hangout and most of the people there were her co workers and Friends, most of them have heard of me already. Still looking for ways to find a crack in her armor but till then let me chill and observe things. Stay safe guys

You guys still don't get it. Women DO NOT leave you because things are going bad for you. It goes against her biological wiring to leave a man simply because things are going bad for him.


Women leave you because of HOW YOU react AFTER things go bad for you. This is why I find pointless to test women (unless you're running low on time)

Life will test you in general. Women know this. And they're looking at HOW you act or respond when life tests you

If you lose your job or source of income and start acting like your world has finished... or start behaving like your self worth and confidence lies on that money... then you shouldn't be surprised why a woman will leave you.

Women value inner strength in a man. An unshakeable confidence that is largely unmoved by what life throws at them. When you complain, whine or act defeated due to life challenges... all she sees is a weak man. So she starts wondering if she made right choice.

And yes, all you did in the past won't matter as much as what you're doing now. Because Right now is the reality she understands.


Also... while trying to find a crack in armour... don't do something counter productive. Just focus on leadership and maintaining frame 80% of the time. And you'll be fine

dreamxhaser:
That my girlfriend I told y’all about? Well she stopped talking to me for some days now.

What happened was I’ve not been giving her full attention or treating her like I used to for more than 2 month now. My plan was to flip the coin, give her drama and make her think about me (even if it’s about negative stuffs).

So I will sweet talk her and act like I am obsess with her for a day or two. Then I’ll treat her like shit afterwards. Just giving her mixed signals

At first she stopped talking to me, and expected me to apologize like I used to. But I just freestyle her matter. Until she gave up and chat me up herself after a week.

She started complaining that I don’t call her again. Bla bla bla

She even said I’ve changed and it was unlike me (of course I’ve changed b***ch).

Even the last time we met, I could see the anger on her face.

So after a short argument we had some days back. She sent me a snap on Snapchat. In the snap was a guy and a ladies hand in his car. They took a picture of it and she tagged him captioning “Love Scare”

Funny enough, I already knew about the guy but lock up. She started dating the guy when I started giving her mixed signals. I expected her to end things with me (which I wouldn’t have cared cause I now have multiple options) but she still continued. So in my mind, I thought maybe she was waiting for her birthday (which was close).

Well regarding the snap of her and the guy, I was pained. Not because she sent me that stuff, but because I opened it. I wanted to lock up, but Omo make e no be like the thing pain me. So I just brought the issue up with style during conversation and even encourage her to keep the love sweet between them. I didn’t show any sign that I was offended.

She said I was pissing her off , then came back 15 minutes later to tell me how he was her friend’s boyfriend. Bla bla bla (Lol she must have thought of a lie to give).



Anyways her birthday came and passed. I didn’t post her. Just sent her a message In her DM. Then delayed her birthday gift to see her reaction. Omo she was so pissed she couldn’t hide it. She just Dey chock me talk indirectly tgat day. Hehehe😂 and she stopped talking to me when she got home.

Her instagram is now filled with stories of how she hates men. Bla bla bla

Omo life moves on oooh. Me I just continue to post my hangouts with my guys and other girls. Life is too short to worry about one girl.

Funny enough I am sure she is waiting and she will give up and still chat me up again. If she does which she will……..

The birthday was part of my plan to put her on her place so she would know she has no value like before.

After learning about being the price. The way I Dey carry myself for women eh. It just works mehn, like magic.

Now!

I had to go back through your posts to find out the girl you spoke of.

You mean you went ahead to date that Girl? After she left her guy for you? And you're surprised she did the same to you.

Look, tattoo this in your mind. I've said this before and I'll say it again: The number 1 indicator of a woman's loyalty is if she has cheated in her previous relationships. NOT her virginity. Not her body count. NOT her submission

If she has cheated in her previous relationships, she is more than likely to cheat on you. It's even worse when you are the guy she cheated with. And now you dated her


Another thing to note, drama is done to spice up a relationship. You don't use drama to frame a relationship. Too much drama will cause her to panic and leave the relationship. You might be feeling yourself that she's getting angry and chasing you because of your drama UNTIL she leaves. And when she does, it's you that is to be blamed. And it's due to your poor relationship skills

There's nothing cool about boasting how you date a girl... you cluelessly stir up drama then when she leaves you say "another will come" you keep doing that then you end up with tons of exes. Tons of exes just shows a man who is bad at managing relationships and/or choosing women


Lastly, I don't get the point of your post. No point dating this girl. You wrongly dated her and you're using game tactics wrongly. Drama & mixed signals at this stage with her is overgaming. Yes, there's such a thing as over gaming or too much game, which is bad.

Because you ruin the balance.

Anyways... you're right about the last parts how carrying yourself as a king and the prize will make her see you that way.

As the saying goes... the world will treat you how you see yourself

ElasmoBranchii:
Let's talk about cold approaching. I know it has been brought up on this thread in the past and it's not everyone's cup of tea but I don't believe you can be the most confident version of yourself without doing it.

I'm trying to form this habit of always putting myself in uncomfortable situations because like exercising, you won't be the best version of yourself if you don't stress your muscles. Not only with cold approaching, I'm trying to apply this in other areas too.

And just like exercising, you need to make cold approaching a habit. You don't need to be perfect at it. Just make it a habit.
Even if you feel you are confident enough or you have a lot of girls on your plate. You can only get better.

You don't even have to link up with the girls afterward just make it a habit to approach and please only very attractive girls.

I used to think when you are cold approaching, you are stroking their ego but the truth is, it's about strengthening your own because she doesn't have the balls to do what you just did. Building confidence in this area will also transfer to other areas of your life.

Everybody should be doing it even if you are on Monk Mode. Like I said you don't need to link up with the girls afterward which means you don't need to spend a lot of time talking to her.

Also some people will tell you wait for choosing signals and all that but ignore that and just approach. You can do cold approach and warm approach at the same time. If you know it's someone you will still see around then you can use warm approach but I'll pick cold approach in most situation.

I started getting a lot of choosing signals when I started cold approaching. It's crazy. Not that I didn't use to get choosing signals but it could be like once in a year but the week i started cold approaching, i got 3 choosing signals. I feel women can sense the aura.

And yes most of the girls I have linked up with are the ones that gave me choosing signals but I think that's because I am not yet very confident in my cold approach but I know I'll get better with time.

I hope this helps. Keep pushing yourself out of your comfort zone and watch your confidence soar.

Yup cold approach is fun but hard for most people.

I enjoy it more. The thrill & adventures are exciting

Timothykesh13:
Hello
I have been following this thread from the beginning and i have learned immensely from this forum so far so good.. Am greatful
But there is something troubling me recently, there is a girl am into in my uni here, we've met chatted and talked one or one.
Recently our conversation has been so chemical and am intending on asking her out via WhatsApp because i can't get access to her physically for the Time being

Although i don't really fancy out asking girls online as it makes me feel cowardly, but at the same Time i don't wanna snooze and loose this girl to another guy who has more game
Pls gent's what do you advice
Should i go ahead and shoot my shot on-line??

If you've actually read this thread, you'd know asking a girl out is a BAD move whether offline or online. It's way worse online


You want to meet with her first then establish a sexual relationship with her before dating her

Meaning:
I don't want to bore you with much worse.

I dated a girl for 5years. We started dating back then when we were in the university. She was very kind and very understanding.
But she broke up with me and went ahead to date her colleague because he was more handsome (I'm not really that sweet to look at)

She treated me like a piece of shit, like a used rag, not considering the fact that we were together for 5years.
Now she broke up with him again and she's been begging me consistently for two years now wanting a relationship.
I've blocked her on all platforms but she always uses new numbers to get with me which they all go into the "blocked zone".

Back when we were dating. I was told by someone that I shouldn't leave the girl no matter what. Now this year, revelation has come out from two different people that I must take that girl back. That she holds a key to my financial breakthroughs. Not like I believe that bullshit anyways but It's kind of bothering me.

1. I feel like she lacks loyalty, how could I taie back someone who doesn't understand what loyalty is.

2. I have a deep and an intense hatred for her. How can I take back someone I have a deep hatred for?

3. She no longer meets my spec. I have a better taste now.

4. My ego is bruised because, she chose her colleague who had a GF over me who all I had was her.

5. I feel like her colleague is the person she really likes. She might be back because she isn't getting what she wants from him.

Guys please advice me, How do I date who I hate and please teach me how to avenge myself?
She hurt me so much when she left that I was bleeped up mentally up to the extent that I lost a huge sum of money and a source of income, I've been struggling since then. I even fell sick after that.

An eye for an eye. I want to avenge myself please. Please teach me all the possible wicked things I can do even if I must took her back.
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Skepticus
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MrBrownJay1
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Rizzputin
Nonexistent1
@ everyone. Please save a brother.

Going forward, I want you too tattoo this in your brain so you never forget: "With women, length of time does NOT matter as much as quality of time"


You mentioned 5 years like you're surprised she left you after so long. Well let me break it to you, you can date a woman for 100 years and once you start acting like a bìctch, she'll leave you.


I'm not surprised your relationship fell off after years. 3 years is the most amount of time relationships tend to fall off.

Why? Life tests the man and he fails miserably in her presence. She tests him too and he fails miserably and consistently.

I'm pretty sure she mentioned that guy to you or hinted at him to test you but rather than acting secure & sure of yourself... you started doubting, begging and trying to please her.

And ultimately... she felt you were no longer man enough. Whenever a woman "treats you like rag" it simply means you are no longer the man she thought you were. You fùcked up in how you led the relationship

No woman leaves her relationship for another guy because "he's handsome" she might cheat because of that reason but she'll not walk out of that relationship because of "handsome" She won't even leave a relationship because of "sex"

Anyways... to answer your specific questions


1 There's no need to go beyond this point. If she doesn't understand loyalty... she's immediately disqualified as a potential partner.

Also as general rule, never take back a girl that went to fùck a guy and wants to come back.

What you can do (if you like) is to keep fùcking her


2) Exactly. Relationship is for people that love each other. If you hate, there's no point stressing over it. You will just end up bringing more problems for yourself. You can keep her as a fwb

3) Now that you have higher taste, go for those girls and date them

4) Your ego shouldn't be bruised because of that. Women want what other women want. You made her the center of your life and attention. Made her look like your only option so she lost attraction for you

5) You're wrong. You're the one she really likes. But you lost frame in your relationship and now she tried the colleague thinking it will be better. But unfortunately the guy can't take her seriously since he saw her cheat on you with him.

She likes you more but it doesn't matter anyways. Boundaries have been crossed and nothing you do now will fix it or get things back to where they were

If you accept her back... She'll lose respect for you. Because no quality man that has shìt together with tons of options will take her back after what she did. And she knows this.

6) The best revenge you can give is to get your life back on track. Make money and upgrade yourself. Trust me if it's pain you want to cause her... nothing will be more painful than that


Otherwise, any other form of revenge is pointless. You shouldn't be dating a woman just to revenge. Too much waste of resources that can be channeled into more productive activities

Hope this helps

There's nothing wrong with her. But there's a lot wrong with you

Anyways, it's surprising how nobody on this thread has explained why the girl is responding this way. Guys, let's do better

Now, for your question... what is wrong with her? Absolutely nothing. You are the problem

I've said it before that a girl is the mirror of the man. Her actions, behaviours and words reflect the man she's talking or chatting with.

In your situation, there are only 3 possible reasons why this girl is acting this way


---- First, her emotions have cooled off. A lot of guys are happy when a girl shows them green light when he approaches her. She's into him, laughing at his jokes, complimenting him, etc

Then the guy does a very big mistake... he assumes this green light as a signal for him to over show his interest. So he verbally and non verbally shows interest back to the girl. And with that, the chase is over for her... when you text her it now becomes a game of "I know he likes me... I'll just keep him around and see if I like him back"



---Another problem with a girl acting into you is that, how a girl behaves with you when you're present will be different via text.

A girl can act all flustered and interested when you're present because she can feel your energy and vibe

But when she goes back home and the emotions cool off... she then realizes she doesn't really know you that well... and that moment both of you felt you had wasn't real. So, she adjusts and goes back to her base emotions


---- Once you experience both things above, the worst thing you can do is to text her the way you're doing.

It will send her from "I'm still figuring this guy out" to "this guy is a creepy simp"


Ignore any advice here on double texting. I double text and triple text sometimes. It doesn't drop your value in any way. It all boils down to HOW you do it (which is not what you're doing unfortunately


---- The last reason why she's acting this way is she's playing games. I doubt this is your situation though.

From what you described, it's more of the first 2. But a girl can want you to double or triple text her to show your interest if she feels like you're too high value..

It will help satisfy her ego and make her more responsive to you. (I know I know, so many low self esteem girls today but such is life)



● Your Next moves

-- Ignore this girl for like a week or 2. I mean no contact at all. She may or may not reach out

--- Then hit her up with something interesting or funny probably about her. (No hi or hey or what's up. Or any of that nonsense)


---- Then just forget about the whole idea of "she's into me" That is why you're chasing because you felt you had her but now that she's slipping away ... you're starting chasing

But remember, that which we chase tends to run away from us

So just game her like you would do a girl that's just on the fence about you.

Origamist:
You are right,boss.
I also think it's being used as a bargaining chip to secure exclusive commitment in this case.
Because the girl involved knows the guy is seeing another girl.
His polarizing honesty about the other girl is part of what attracted her in the first place.
Now she wants him to herself only 😂

Yeah, it could also be used as a bargaining chip.

In that case, treat it as a test and arousal/comfort problem

Sooner or later, she'll be begging for the dìck

Origamist:
Seduction is about game.
A subset of the red pill.
You can be a seducer without being a redpiller;whereas,all redpillers are equipped with enough knowledge to be master seducers.

Seducers and red pillers are different. What is confusing you is that both sides have different approaches to game.

There are similarities. But how they view game and women as a whole is different

Gradually, men are starting to realize shortcomings of the red pill.

I've always maintained that no real seducer or someone that understands female nature is a red piller. While there are similarities with the red pill and real seduction, the errors from red pill are too many to link them up together.


However, I'd like to clarify things. Smart people read things in context. When someone takes a line from a post and judges the entire post, that is a hallmark of foòlishness.


For example, people have obviously and ignorantly misunderstood the phrase "All roads lead to sex" So, I'll explain.


"All roads lead to sex" is a metaphorical reminder that romantic relationships should first begin with sex. When you allow a woman get you into a relationship without sex, you set yourself up for failure and heart breaks.


All roads leads to sex also means any path you decide to take when it comes to love or romance should and will inevitably end up in sex being a huge factor in your relationship. Most guys tend to separate romantic love from sex. But lust & sex is a key component of love.

Both her heart in her chest and the one between her legs must beat for you. That is why all paths you take lead to sex.


Another one inexperienced guys have ignorantly misunderstood is "Always go for the pùssy"

This doesn't mean you should go for every pùssy you see. Not only is this unrealistic, it is detrimental for you.

What that line means is that the pùssy unlocks her real self for you. No matter how much you feel you know a woman, you will never truly know her well enough until you've fùcked her.

As the metaphor goes, your dìck is a key that unlocks her. Once her legs and pùssy opens up for you, so does her mind, emotions and heart.

The phrase reminds you on what matters most. Guys tend to chase irrelevant things like trying to win a girl with gifts or begging her or doing some unnecessary therapy with her.... when they're better off fùcking her and opening up her world


Anyways, hope this helps give you guys clarity on what matters

Origamist:
Some girls let you get really sexual with them,oral ,and other stuff
But draw the line at penetration claiming they're try to preserve their virginity.
What do you guys make of this?

It depends.

Some girls have made the decision of having one foot inside the pleasures of life without fully committing. They'll suck dìcks, get their ass fùcked and do more but hold back on penetration. This is done to preserve their "virginity"


Some do it as a test. They want penetration but test you to see if you can find your way around it.


Another group of girls do this to make themselves look less cheap. Sometimes when a girl is falling hard & fast for a guy she'll bring up obstacles like this. "We'll do everything but penetration" To make it look like they have self control. What they want you to do is NOT give in. But continue. This way they can convince themselves that "I bleeped him because he wanted it not me"


The last reason is because she's not fully aroused by you. Or she doesn't feel comfortable enough with you. If you notice there's a recurring pattern where girls don't want penetration with you then this is the most likely reason.

Knacking raw is stupìd. If this is your first time in getting an std, then you don't fùck that much. Which is why you feel you don't need a condom

When your fùcking close to 100 women each year, no one will tell you to strap up.

Anyways, what you got is herpes. You haven't cured it. Because it's a kind of virus which is not curable. Treatable yes, but not curable.


So the virus is still in your body but dormant.

Girls these days (post-covid especially) are more promiscuous.... so if you keep this up, you should be able to grab a few gonorrhoea or two along the way. If you're lucky, you hit the jackpot with HIV

KingEarnest:
Good afternoon bosses i the house.

I want to ask a very important question.
How do you get friend-zoned and what are the signs to know you are in the friendzone?

I will appreciate your replies, thanks.

By simping, acting nice, needy and not building sexual tension with a woman.

Once you do this, you've landed in the friend zone.

One of the biggest signs of friendzone is she resists your sexual advances or any opportunities that could potentially create a sexual occurrence to happen

dreamxhaser:
Omo, see as your explained in details.

Well, women are pretty easy to understand once you start seeing things from their perspective.

That's why I always try to mention how a woman sees the overall interaction and what's going on in her mind. Because entering the conversation in her mind is the fastest way to fùck her.

And no better way to do that than with emotions. Women are largely emotional unlike us men that are driven by logic

That's why you shouldn't take what women say seriously most times. This includes her WhatsApp and Facebook post.

A girl can watch an emotional video of a loyal gf and post "loyalty from a woman to a real man is rare special" Meanwhile the previous night, she was sùcking her bf's neighbour's dìck.

Once you understand women think on emotions and tend to do things that satisfy her selfish desires, a lot of things won't seem surprising to you

eclatante:
We later Bleep.. (I stopped showing interest, sex came) lol funny how this shit works.

Rizzputin

Nice work. I love it when men take advice and put it to good use.

Just a few nitpick tho. You didn't fùcked her because you stopped showing interest.

You fùcked her because you stopped being needy. You stopped acting like you needed. You stopped making her the centre of your life.

And women love that shìt. You see, women are not stùpìd. She knew you were still interested. But she loves the fact that your interest in her didn't allow you become needy for her.

You put yourself first. This, to a woman, signals strength. So nothing wrong with showing interest. Don't just act needy or over do it.

Going forward in your relationship, she'll test you again. So be prepared

DevilsEqual:
There are too many risky businesses to venture into than this

Why pay monthly allowance to a lady and still be mature enough to know she can live


How do u convince yourself to do this

He's a clown. Ignore him.

He's the type to get cheated on then blame the moon and stars for it. Rather than himself