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fattprince:
It's been long I came to take the pills and it's already telling on me. I was thinking about this after the event reason why I came here. I will act accordingly from henceforth. And go back to read the thread again. Thanks to you all

VERTEX01
Mikocake

I wanted to ignore your posts because you made serious beginner mistakes. But then, I saw this your comment that made me laugh so hard: "I will act accordingly henceforth. And go back to read the thread again"


Lmao. Do you really think reading a bunch of threads by people who have little experience will improve your dating life? You think consuming threads like a dopamine craving addict will substitute you ACTUALLY doing the work by getting experience with women?

I've said this multiple times. Worth reiterating too. No thread, book etc will save you from reality. Worst of all, certainly not red pill.

You can take all the pills you want. Drink like 20 per day. If you're feeling ambitious make it 50. When life punches you with reality, you'll vomit everything.

You're not the first red piller to realize reality/women do NOT care about your pill knowledge. It's how you present yourself as a man. How you show upin the world with confidence and purpose. Most of my students I've worked are red pillers

You see them shouting "hold frame" "maintain frame" "flip frame" Ask them what those things even mean and they're clueless. Either they tell you something totally unrelated or they give such a surface level thing that even a virgin girl in 100lvl will easily out manuever.

You've probably said the same thing too. You also know about frame and manipulation. Yet it's obvious you didn't even understand what you're saying.

Because your story has manipulation written all over it that you cant even see. And you lost frame so many times you're now trying to find it.

If I should ask you how this girl manipulated you, you cant say. If I should ask you where and how did you lose frame you cant say. I counted like 20 in just this your write up alone.

Meaning, there are many more. I'll suggest you drop this red pill nonsense.

Even the guys telling you to take pills are just clueless. I've met many of them. They have no idea what they're talking about.

Seduction is something that should be a part of you. It's not a pill you take. It's a piece of you that you carry. Because it has been ingrained so deep into your subconscious, it can never leave you.

Anyways, this girl is for nothing serious. The only true thing she told you is that she's looking for a job. Everything else is a lie.

So if you want a fùùùck buddy you can enjoy in Lagos, you have to flip the frame back to your favour and not fall for her cheap manipulation.

Because she's a beginner. All she's doing are things a 200 lvl girl will do.

So it's either you ditch her or continue to fùùùck her. But taking her seriously will not work

All the best

LifeofDream:
I don't know why I'm being banned whenever I try to give an update on this 👆..

Anyways, I hit already but need an advise on something..

Don't misspell words. Use smash or bang or medical parts or slangs like penis or blockos

Lorayne:
I think learning these skills will help greatly only If you attractive.

Doesn't apply to unattractive men

You mentioned "attractive" . I believe you're referring to physical attraction.

When I started, I was slim af, broke as hell, and far from what you'd call attractive. Yet I STILL smashed loads of girls.

How? I focused on other attractive qualities women are drawn to.

You see, while physical attractiveness is helpful, women like other attractive qualities. When you display this, she FEELS it.

The only thing I'll say is that if you're physically unattractive, you have to seduce women differently from a good looking guy.

Gerrard59:
I have a friend like that. The way he does it, I dey ask am to start a masterclass, and I will be his first student.

I don't know about your friends, but mine is handsome and can rizzle women within minutes. The way he does it eh, I have asked, "bros you get sugar for mouth?", "bro, how do you do this thing?" He is too good man. I have another, but he is from a well-to-do family, is somewhat popular and smokes, so I believe these make things easier. But the earlier do isn't from an upper-middle-class family but he is so good.

My verdict on both guys? They are generally friendly and smile a lot. So much to learn.

He doesnt need to start masterclass lol. Just observe what he's doing and replicate yours.

If you've studied a great book on seduction and have been practicing, it will be easy for you to connect the dots

The worst part is: He can't even teach you even if he wanted to.

Most of these guys have no clue what they're doing or why what they're doing works.

If you ask them they'll tell you: "omo I'm just being myself" "I'm just vibing and having fun"


I don't need to tell you how unreliable that is. That's why wanting them to teach you is a waste of time. Unless it's a very very specific situation

But teaching you how to be good with women? Waste of time. It's your duty to read, practice yourself INTENSIVELY, observe, connect the dots and combine.

pook:
What I realised is that guys like Rollo Tomassi, Aaron Clarey and the rest who are honest, when you ask them about marriage. They either tell you to never get married or they wish they didn't. They advise you to just pass your gene to whom you see fit, probably a lady you met who you feel she's going to be a good mother. After birthing your child, take good care of your children. Whatever she does after is her choice.

You don't have to stay under the same roof with a woman.

Rollo and Aaron are not the people you should learn about relationships and marriage from

There are other guys that love being married

emmaodet:
If am to make a suggestion, I will say the easier way of getting sex is to move with a guy that easily bed women without using money.
I have 1 or 2 guys like that around me.
I don't know how they do it Agboola and Femi sleep with women like someone changing boxers.
They go to the bank, they will collect number.
Inside the cab, somehow they will strike conversation and collect number.
Just name it - church, school, street, anywhere.
Believe me, they will bed atleast 50% of them within a week.
A woman sent her younger sister to Agboola's wife. Unfortunately she didn't meet her at home and just by the door side, Agboola initiated conversation with her and within minutes banged the lady.
It was not premeditated, not planned by both.
Infact, as at that morning, there wasn't any plans of meeting her nor knowing her.
The Lady's aunt will not even think such will happen within that period nor will Agbo wife think of such.
These guys are just the messi and Ronaldo of women.
Add money to them and you have monsters ravaging women round the street.
If you move with such men, naturally you will pick up some traits from them and improve your skills with women

This is a great point. I've made this remark in the past many times.

The best way to learn about women is to copy/study/follow guys around you that are great women. Their mannerisms, vibes, words etc. Nothing will teach you faster than this.

When I started, while studying about pick up from my mentors... i went out with guys i knew that were doing well with women. Combined both what i studied with what they did and now I'm way better than all of them.

In fact, some of them are like "Bro teach me na. How did you just get good so fast" it was simple: I studied AND observed.

But there are TWO VERY IMPORTANT THINGS TO NOTE:


>>>>1) You have to know what you're looking out for.
A big reason guys will have friends that do great with women but still fail is because they have no clue about what works.

They dont what to copy OR why he's doing what he's doing. That's why after studying, YOU MUST practice. No amount of book reading will help you if you dont practice yourself

That way, you can compare what you're doing to what he's doing. For example, when he says a particular thing in a situation you've seen before ... your brain registers how and what he said. So when you see it again, you can test it

Seduction is A SKILL. If you dont treat it like one, you'll never get good


>>>>>>2) The women your friend is smashing have to be really good looking.

Each time I tell guys this they're quick to tell me: "Yes they're fine" BUT when I see the girls I'm always disappointed. No matter how much these guys promised me I wont be disappointed lol.

The reason for this is because you want to train your subconscious to enjoy beautiful women.

When I was really broke, the most common phrase my guys told me was "Guy you like going for things wey big pass you"

While they went for average women, I went for the hottest all the time.

You want to get used to beautiful women so you can see how NOT special they are

Gobengroup:
You're very right Boss, I love your bluntness. grin This is one of the reason I posted this here, I love how I'm beginning to see my mistakes from your drops.

She know I have girls, she have seen at least two with me. I'm in school area and a student, most of this girls are student and not around except three of us( although we have other couples living around).

She was very easy to laid, still don't know why I fvcked it up. She was those type of churchy girls that want to be exposed.

I would be lying if I said I didn't get the hint she might be with my friend or maybe they dated. I was controlling the dynamics of everything but lose my edge and I can understand it was my mistake. Not even making a simplest excuse. This girl always send her chats with my friend to me. My guy wasn't around then and was trying to manipulate her.(My guy wasn't around for months then). I knew it but I don't want to spoil my guy matter. My mistake was being available for her emotionally without trying to hit, no man should ever try this.

But reverse is the case now, my guy is chopping her low-key while acting nonchalant to her in my presence. I think she fears him and I'm weak to her because I already tolerated a lot. I also sensed my guy already knew me and the girl are very close and he's playing his game very well.


I knew my guy very well, we have been together for over a decades since early teenage years. I know almost everything about him, same thing applies to him also about me. Mere looking at him, I can read his mind and thought. He can read mine too.

The truth is, I was pitying her because she look naive to me forgetting that the naiveness won't last forever. I was bounce back to light few weeks ago when she came back after the semester holiday. I notice some things are off and I'm not wrong. This girl was still trying to get my attention despite being banged by my guy.

My conclusion is, my guy knew she was being fvcked by other guys and quickly acted. I'm even thinking he thought I have fvcked her many times already. This girl was being banged behind my back while I was pitying the pussy, I need a very big knock on my head. smiley Learnt my lesson already.

I have also decided to forget and ignore everything and moved on. I should have done so when I noticed my friend was interested. I initially thought of doing that but she was always on my neck.

I was banned on my other account

Lmao. So she's not a virgin. And has been banged by different guys.

Well it will be easy for you to bang her. But that will require a long write up.

Anyways, let's see if you can pull it off

LifeofDream:
She doesn't know I saw them having sex. Thinking about it now, she gave me a whole lot of opportunities but I fvcking misuse them.

We live in same area, just few hours to my lodge. I live together with my guy. This is a girl that always sleep inthe same room with me and my guy. Just thinking about it now, my guy is probably the reason she does that many times despite them acting like they don't talk to each other.

Another thing I noticed is that, she stop sleeping over the first day I caught them together.

Yeah your guy went the back door to smash her.

She doesn't know so that's why she's holding back. To her, you think she's still a virgin

Anyways I've seen this happen many times. Been a part of it too.

I've already explained what you should do. However it seems you're not observant enough. They've probably been smashing for a while now.

Gobengroup:
I literally fvck myself up and I regretted it. There were many times I could have get done with this girl but I choose to stay calm but now I'm on the loosing side.
This girl literally give me 101 chances but I messed everything up. The first time I wanted to hit, I left because I confirmed she was a virgin( my biggest mistake with her). I feel like she now see me as a bf material, I literally knew all her secrets. Wanted to hit yesterday but she rejected.

This is same girl that will secretly use an excuse to see my guy and they end up hitting, I caught them days ago. It was like I was watching a porn, it was so painful and made me regretted not hitting earlier.

I was being used as an emotional dumpsite while my guy is hitting for free and maybe little sacrifices. He was not available emotionally for her. This guy doesn't even rate her at all.

Damn, I was played..

I already ignored her and detached. I wanted to hit yesterday to satisfy myself but it did not work out. What do you think I should do? I feel like my guy already know her weak point and has her on the palm of his hand.

@Rizzputin @Pukkalolo @JESHAL007 and other bosses.

It's good you're spotting your mistakes.

"Emotional dumpsite" is a great way to describe a therapist. It's a common mistake guys make. Becoming emotional tampons. Soaking up her worries, problems, dreams and aspirations while she bangs another guy recklessly

Also are you sure she was a virgin?

Anyways, even if she was... it's meaningless. I'll never understand the ignorant obsession with virginity. It doesn't mean anything.

What she did to you is one of the common tricks virgins play. One find a husband/bf material like yourself they hope to marry and will take care of them. Keep him believing the virgin lie. Then get a fwb or fb to take her virginity and bang her.

Now, you have take the steps back to understand the issue. Did she meet you first before your guy? Are you guys living in the same area?

You have one of two moves 1) get her aroused (this requires serious skill. So you wont be able to pull it off) 2) withdraw from her

The second one is your move. Give her less and less attention. Not in an angry or butt hurt way. But in a "I have other things to do" kind of way.

Does she know you saw them having sex? If no, then she probably thinks you see still her as a virgin and wants to maintain the image.

Also whose idea was it hide it from you ? Hers or his?

Once you're clear on those answers, withdraw from her like I said... slowly. Find other girls to be involved with. Soon she'll start chasing again. This time you must make her work for it.

You dont have to have sex first time. You can baby step it with other sexual advances.

Also, don't believe what guys tell you about "I dont send her" Most times it's a lie. Guys are just as bad as the women they claim about.

Only actions is what matters.

Gobengroup:
Never hate women, never hate the game. Just learn it and be a master player. Be very ruthless, don't be emotional.
But always remember, even those you call your guys can play you. Don't blame them, you might actually be the problem. Big up to my Boy, I have learn a lot from him in these past weeks of practicals than I have learned in my entire lifetime.

Bro was busy running a girl I was thinking about being serious with. Make Una pour me water. The worst part is that this two act like they don't talk or hate each other, I have never been deceived like that in my life..

I literally caught these guys fvcking yesterday, yet they still acting like eñemy today. This girl will be acting loving dovey on me while fvcking my guy in secret. I was not expecting this at all.

You're not the only one experiencing this. Most guys on this thread and in red pill deceive themselves with books and quotes thinking they're making progress.

Unfortunately seduction is about real world experience. Nothing beats staying in the trenches of seduction to find what works.

For you, you became a bf/husband material to her. So she most likely encouraged him to keep it a secret. This way she doesn't ruin her chances of care from you.

And it's not about being ruthless. In fact, ruthlessness doesn't work long term.

You want to put yourself and your mission first. Once you do that, words like "wicked" "stubborn" "I hate you" will start flowing from women's mouths to you along with bjs and sex.

I've always told guys to drop the bf/husband material route. And go hard on being seen as fwb or fb material

That's how you win long term.

Anyways, there are still more lessons to learn. More wahala to see. Just man up and embrace them

It will all pay off. Soon you'll have a deep sense of calm knowing you get women anywhere and in in any place and in any situation

Charis15:
Well currently I don't have a boyfriend.
I have been celibate for over a year and I'm okay. I have every good thing of life you can think of believe me.
I have a guy in UAE pleading for me to join him but I declined because I'm not attracted to him.
I give more when I'm in a relationship.
I'm not those 2k abi 20k girls

Lol. If this kind of experience is what tickles you then you'll have a long time before finding a boyfriend.

The men that bring this experience are rare o

Charis15:
On Sunday the 21st day of December 2025 I left my home that faithful day and embarked on a trip to my village. That was our family thanksgiving day, so missing out was not an option. I arrived at the park around 12noon and I was so in a hurry to meet up because they will start 12 till around 3pm. When I got to the park at koka in Asaba heading towards Kwale, though I will stop before Kwale but there is no straight Car to my village that's why I have to board with them, but they needed 5 more persons to complete the vehicle and that's not an option for me, so I went to the vehicle going to Warri/Ughelli because they just needed two more persons. When I got to that sienna I saw something that captivated me and change my whole sense of reasoning, A handsome, tall, fair and spotless man. OMG am I lusting? I lost my gaze for a few seconds. I think it's called love at first sight. I regain my cool and I told driver please shout louder so we can move and this man/guy said to me why don't you pay for the extra 🪑? I was just 🤔 what to answer. He said " them no dey chop woman money", I chuckled and then he said, " I will pay for the extra sit for you because you are in a hurry", chai see caring man. And I jumped and gave him hi five. But fortunately for him, a guy came and completed the sit so we kicked off. We had some talks about the situation of the country and the west. He told me what happened when he went for training in Amsterdam, Dubai etc.
Now I believe a guy should show interest first no matter what. He didn't ask for my contact and I said good, I'm a woman and I have dignity. So neither will I ask.
When I got to my junction, I highlighted and waved him., Immediately that car drove off, I was full of regrets and until now my heart isn't settled. I know I'm in Love. But how can I love a total stranger like this?
Now the pain I feel is like a broken heart for love that never bloomed.
I have never felt like this about anyone before.
I don't know his name , no contact, I don't even know if he likes me or maybe he is married, yet I feel so much pain for not being able to communicate him thereafter.
Now I feel at ease discussing it here.

It's not his looks you're attracted to. It's how you guys met and the fact that he travels a lot.

Airports, bus rides, keke rides etc have some of the sweetest conversations. Because you have it with strangers who you might not see again and there's no judgement

You have no idea who is and he doesn't know you. Just two people talking and sharing a vibe & connection.

Also this how most fantasise romance feels like. They're just going about their day and the most unexpected and natural things happen. The moment adds to the feeling

I've had dozens of experiences like this. Girls love it. However I always take the initiate interest. They always end up telling me "it feels like I'm in a movie"

Becaue these are the kind of things they see in movies and books. What they fantasise about. Getting swept off their feet in heat of passion

You might experience it again. Or not. But it's a sweet feeling tho

You'll get over this one. Because if you're reasonably attractive you may have some more of this natural unexpected encounters. However not all of them will blossom into something romantic

Of all the girls I've met, they've had conversations with guys while travelling. But none of them led to heated romance before me and even after me

So with you, one of them will lead to something intense. It may require you making a move but we both know it's always sweeter when the man makes the move and leads

SpencerForbes:
Honestly, it’s funny how you’re mixing these things up. 😂 First off, FWB is rarely ever called 'just a friend'—they usually hide that under the 'bestie' label. Also, where did the OP mention FWB? You’re clearly just adding flavor to the story to suit your narrative.

Here’s the truth: a woman knows the value of what she’s giving. If there are no tangible benefits in an FWB setup, she’s checking out in a few weeks. Also, remember that the FWB is at the end of the spectrum—she handles her man first, and you only get a look-in when she’s bored (except you have something to offer). If you choose the 'just friends' route, you’re in for a long, unproductive run. You can ask for FWB on day one and get a 'yes,' but telling a girl you want you both to be 'just friends' is just a slow road to nowhere. She see you as a spineless femboy. So being ‘just a friend’ might work, but don’t ever compare it to FWB because FWB works faster.

Wrong again. Women NEVER refer to fwb as bestie. They refer to besties as besties

Fwbs are the one referred to as "just a friend" Because they are many.

Anyways thank you for saying that OBVIOUSLY nonsensical statement. You've saved me from wasting my time.

Cause that statement alone shows you have NEVER experienced this. You're probably one of those red pill guys obsessing over books. Lol. Go and meet women. And stop hallucinating experiments in your head

And you just exposed yourself.

SpencerForbes:
You’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to find a meaning that simply isn’t there. Whether it’s 'he’s just a friend' or 'we’re just friends,' the core message is the same. If the OP meant Friends With Benefits (FWB), he’s savvy enough to have used the term.

If the OP wanted to discuss FWB, nothing stopped him from saying so. You've created two separate meanings that don't correlate and you're trying to conjoin them— splitting hairs over non-existent differences and then trying to force them back together. The OP is wise enough to know the difference; if he didn't include FWB, it was intentional. Let’s stop adding 'flavor' to a story that's already clear. Let’s stick to the text and stop drifting into assumptions.

You are the one assuming he meant "leading with friendship"
You are the one assuming it takes long. You then falsely and ignorantly assumed that you'll be bringing "things" to the table. You then assumed again you'll be spending on her

Lol. Dude, You clearly have NEVER been in the situation op talked about. I dont think your mind can wrap around what he's talking about all.

This concept clearly above your level of experience. So I suggest you sit this one out.

SpencerForbes:
Let’s get one thing straight: FWB and 'just friends' are two completely different ballgames (which he never said anything about). If I want a Friends With Benefits arrangement, I state my intentions clearly from day one. You'd be surprised how many ladies would actually prefer that honesty over the 'just friend' camouflage. The moment you settle for being 'just a friend,' you’ve already lost the lead.

Man up and state your purpose. If she’s not down for it, she can move on to someone else. Remember, FWB still requires you to bring something to the table; it’s just minus the 'boyfriend' labels. You’re a man; don't hide your intentions. Stop masking your desires under the guise of friendship—it’s a losing strategy.

Again, You didn't understand.

He said "He's just a friend" NOT "Just friends" It's a subtle but VERY IMPORTANT distinction

"He's just a friend" is like a clichè term for a guy fùcking a girl in a relationship. Because most times when the bf asks about a guy, the girl says "oh he's just a friend"

So it has become sort of a popular phrase to hint at a guy knacking a guy's babe. Because most times when girls say "oh he's just a friend" he's never just a friend.

Secondly, it's the same thing. It can also mean a friendzone guy like you initially described

You didn't understand the context of where op came from. He wasn't describing the just friends kind of "he's just a friend" (this takes longer)

He was describing the friends with benefits kind of "he's just a friend"

Nothing new here. Double standards apply to both men and women.

Just learn to play the game as a man. Rise to the top then do whatever the fùck you want

SpencerForbes:
It’s a double-edged sword. If you’re playing the 'just a friend' card without any real game, you’re basically funding her lifestyle without her even noticing. She’ll bill you before she bills her own boyfriend because she sees you as a safe 'provider' while you think you’re just 'preparing the ground.' You’ll be the shoulder she cries on while she’s being handled by other guys. Then, after 100 heartbreaks, you try to move in for a kiss and she gets angry because she feels you weren't 'honest' about your intentions.

The truth is, being direct is a confidence booster. Even if you get rejected, you’ve acted like a man. It shows b😊lls. Hiding behind 'friendship' just to get close usually stems from a fear of rejection. Some women with high standards won't even respect you until you show that masculine backbone. It reeks of low self-esteem. While the friend-to-lover route can work, it requires elite-level game and usually takes way longer than necessary. If you don't handle it perfectly, you lose the girl and the friendship in one go. Unless you have serious game to navigate the transition from friend to partner, you’re better off just shooting your shot directly and moving on if it’s a no.

You didn't understand his point. Just a friend doesnt mean you're pretending

You're still bringing your sexual energy but in a different way. You're basically a fùck buddy or fwb material than a bf/husband material. I prefer fwb material btw because it's the sweetest spot to be in

Also the fwb material or hook up guy material takes a shorter time. It doesn't take long at all. In fact within a week, she's yours while her suitors pile up for weeks or months waiting.

You're referring to someone trying to use the friend zone or caring friend route. It's different from this

Perfectly said. Months ago I shook up a corner of the internet by saying: "Husband or Boyfriend material is the WORST thing for a man"

That statement gave some people sleepless nights. All along, they thought being a husband or boyfriend material is the way to go. But it's not.

In fact, if a girl or group of girls hails you as a boyfriend or husband material, you should be VERY WORRIED.

I mentioned that the ideal position you want to be is fùççk buddy or Friends with benefit material. This is where you see women for who they truly are.

Most women hide things from their boyfriends. Sometimes, hide acts from their bfs. I cant count how many times I've trained gfs how to give blòw jóbś so they can do it for their bf and get him to pay for things.

To both of you, you're the fwb that's pounding her. To her husband/bf you're just a friend.

A friend that warms her bed, between her legs and her body. While the hubby warms her bank account (and a lot of times unknowingly the fwb)

The thing is most guys don't know how to approach the fwb angle.

They falsely assume it's by getting into a relationship that you can have her. Until they find out the "just a friend" guy is more than that

always247:
guys I need your help save a brother. females have been using me and cashing out while I got left with no sex. any girl I try, she will use me for her own financial benefit.

i am devastated a girl collect my hard earned 5k nd refuse to show. this is the third day in a row.
I think i must take my mind off sex and just dey do soapy

You're acting desperate for sex. Make women chase you. And they'll fùck you for free and in a lot of cases, pay to fùck you

I'm writing a guide on this so keep your eyes open. And when I mean women, I'm referring to girls that can easily pass off as models

marlow1962:
Women love bad guys and toxic guys.
Kpons her, give her dark ring light around one of her eyes and she will still be down with you, as longs you got money, handsome or other women wants you.

But if you treat her well,don't love violence, love her well, never stands the sight of cheating, don't talk to other woman, she's always free with your phone, you got nothing to hide from her, you always talk about the future and how to progress, you don't bam bam, you don't shilibolobolo, you don't pablo yourself, don't go to club and so sort of other bs, you're just kind,responsible and caring, "man you boring af". Even if you got money and still handsome (my nigha you boring af)

Those creatures are weird. They make a good man turn nasty and later complain there's no more good men.

Women are simple to understand.

Far from weird. And definitely further from being confused. Unless of course, the man thinks like you. They're so many things wrong with your post.

For starters your idea of a good man is flawed. Why would you stop talking to other women? Why would you allow her search you phone freely? It shows you dont have boundaries. And when a man lacks boundaries, she'll disrespect him

Also, why are you always talking about the future? Why not live in the present more?

Why are you telling her everything about yourself? So you're sharing all your struggles with her?


What you listed above are signs of a weak man. Not a good man

Never confuse weakness with goodness. When you learn what women respond to NOT what you THINK they should respond to, women are simpler than ABC

kingthreat:
Look, men and women don't reason the same way.
Some women are ready not to like you for the most silly reasons. If you now try to fix your life based on her standards, then you are bringing down your self worth. You are yourself, there is little wrong with you. Adjusting your life to suit one woman who will lose her current beauty in 10 years isn't the best of wisdom.
I was in talking stages with a lady and she demanded an apology, I rejected because I was not wrong. She told me to thrash my mentality and I instantly pounced on letting her know it's not in her place to tell me what to change in my mentality. Eventually, she blocked me and I moved on. There are over 500 million single women in the world. That one isn't mine.

Read what I said again. You didn't get it

Gobengroup:
The greatest mistake you can ever make is treating a woman like some sort of valuables, she will make you pay for it. Women are not to be loved, treat them like trash and ignore them.

"Women are always attracted to toxicity"
The above 👆is the greatest truth of all time..

You know that guy that treat her like trash and ignore her all the time, he's the price to her. Don't be deceived by her pretentious act of hating that toxic guy, he's the type she wants. Just ignore her for your own good.

She will beg that guy to come fvck her while she make excuses for you. 😂 Don't trust any word that come from the mouth of a woman, don't believe anything.

I thought I was already a pro, outside is so brutal mehn.

What I experienced in the last 12 hours will never make me trust a woman ever again, those Specie are not to be loved.

Pls always be at the top of your game, women are born gamer.

You are 90% right. I'll explain the 10% you're missing. But first, let's start with the 90%. For reasons, you will soon understand

You see... I got exposed to dark triad & toxic traits that women LOVE so much when I was in primary/secondary school

Unlike most guys I knew women loved the dark. The evil. The danger. And the thrill that a toxic man brings into her otherwise boring life.

How did I come to know this? From watching Discovery channel. Yes, you read that right. You're probably familiar with it. However one show I loved a lot was serial killer series. I would stay up all night and binge watch them like crazy. I was fascinated that such people existed .

My mind never went to anything concerning women. And frankly I viewed women in primary school at the time as innocent people that loved good men. Until I watched a Ted Bundy episode in secondary school.

If you dont know Ted he was a notorious serial killer. He is confirmed to killed 30 women. And suspected to have killed up to 80. Yet, he 5 long term relationships, multiple sexual partners and received 100 love letters containing nudes and marriage proposals.

At that age, I was shocked that there were women who loved men this toxic. The fantasy of rescuing and fixing a damaged man. All my bad boy friends success started to click. Everything started to make sense. Women hate a perfect world and perfect man. They love chaos.

Granted, these Ted Bundy women are the extremes. But they're many. And lots of women have that desire to fix the damaged bad boy. In fact, his story formed a HUGE foundation of my "serial killer" game. Women trying desperately to fix me and offering sex as a way to "heal" me. It was crazy. I still use this style of game today... but a more toned down version.

So yes, you're right that they absolutely love a toxic man. I will break it down more in deathly from real world angles why later on.

For now... let's proceed to the 10% I spoke about that you're missing.

While girls like bad boys, too much of everything is bad. Saying you will treat them like trash will not help your situation.

Both the guy that treats like trash and the guy that treats her like some valuables will both lose.

The key is balance. As a great philosopher once said: Moderation is the mother of all virtues.

Finding a balance (comes with practice) is how you win

Yes women hate a perfect world and perfect man. But a world that's too chaotic will chase her away.

Hope this helps you in your journey

SpencerForbes:
Could you elaborate on what you mean exactly by 'experience' in this context?

Specifically, does that term imply:

- Dating every woman primarily to investigate and confirm her past?

- Trying to ascertain the history of every single person you've ever dated, even casual flings?

In this context, experience simply means dating women that meet you pre-relationship standards and taking note of things.

Also... you can evaluate you past relationships and spot patterns.

One thing you realize with women is the more you date them it gets to a point where you see patterns.

Those girls that cant help themselves by taking pics in every outing. That girl with 8 male friends? The girl who has friends who are ALL club girls? How does she respond after first sex? What are her views on sex.

All of the above are pointers to her history. The beauty of these questions is that the right one unlocks something about her. You dont have to ask her. Just have them in your mind

Now.. you may never know the exact number. However, being observant while encouraging certain conversations puts you in a great position to see her for who she truly is NOT who she claims to be

kingthreat:
If someone doesn't like you, it is not your fault. Some people will just choose not to like you because of the way you walk, talk, eat, sneeze, etc. Even your smile can irritate people. So rather than self-blaming, look for someone who is compatible with you and cherishes you for the imperfect being you are.

You failed to understand his point. A lot of times a reason why a girl stops loving you (or doesn't love your) has so much to do with his presentation & carriage.

Before tossing things away blindly, it's best to re evaluate. Sometimes the problem is the guy, sometimes it's the girl. And sometimes it's no one's. Just two incompatible people meeting each other.

Having said that... if you want to enjoy beautiful relationships with women, you have to look at things from three views. Your view, hers and from the outside. This way you avoid falling to arrogance or misdiagnosing your relationship.

This is especially true in today's world where guys are beyond clueless. I can tell you for free most guys have no clue about speaking a woman's language or understanding a relationship

Self reflection should come first before anything. Self reflection is NOT the same as self blaming

SpencerForbes:
Not directed at me, but I’d like to throw something in: You cannot ascertain her past unless she volunteers the information. Her inner circle (friends and sisters) will not reveal her secrets unless there is bad blood between them. Always remember: women network and protect each other's secrets.

Can a leopard change its spots? No. She is likely using that narrative as a net to catch unsuspecting victims. She isn't changing her spots; she is merely hiding them to secure a commitment. The 'good girl' act is often a net to catch a victim. Once the marriage is locked in, the pretense ends. This leads to the unhappy homes we see today, where wives return to their old ways to satisfy their desires.

Can they truly change? Yes. What is the percentage? Very few. Would you love to gamble with your future at stake? The choice is all yours.

You can ALWAYS know a woman's past without her telling you.

One of my favourite quotes is from Sigmund Freud (a world renowned behavioural psychologist expert):

"No mortal can keep a secret. If his lips are silent, he chatters with his fingertips; betrayal oozes out of him at every pore."

Red pill guys and a lot of men laughably see women as some mischievous genius that can keep secrets like FBI. What they dont realize is that they're simply inexperienced.

I always tell guys red flags of a past hòe are ALWAYS there, if you how to look for them and what to look for.

I've NEVER been wrong about this too. The beauty of this is that you will NEVER be able to know without loads of experience. No book, no podcast, no video can teach you what experience will in this situation

That's why guys obsess over silly things like checking her phone, following her etc. Because they're not experienced enough to see the truth staring them in the face. All those things are just Marks of an insecure man. Once you have the urge to "investigate" your woman's phone or social media... you've already lost. Take it from me.

Guys have it backwards. It's NOT "I checked her phone and saw she cheated women are sneaky"

Rather, it IS "You checked her phone because your gut told you she was cheating... which means you were losing from a long time"

In summary, just do the work. Nothing good comes easy. The idea some guys delude themselves they can master female psychology from reading books (and watching videos) is truly comical.

KennethIbe59:
Good day kings in the house

Please I need your take on this
There’s this girl I met — she just relocated from Abuja to Lagos. She’s the sister to my senior man’s wife.

I’ve been very close to their family before I relocated to another area, but I still visit them often. My senior man’s wife likes me a lot.

So, one day when I visited them, I met this girl and collected her number. I’m 35, and she just turned 27.

She was actually the first to chat me up, and we started vibing well. Most times, she’s the one who initiates our chats.

I’ve visited her at her workplace before; we’ve kissed twice on different occasions. She has even sent me money for food twice. I’ve never given her money before — I only spend a little when we hang out for drinks.

Last Sunday was her birthday. I went to see her, called her on the phone, and she came out without telling her sister where she was going. I took her to a bar, and we lodged for about an hour — we had sex.

While we were at the bar, her sister kept calling her several times, but she didn’t pick up.

After everything, I escorted her back home and even spent some time with her sister’s husband at a nearby bar before heading back to my place.

I didn’t call her that night. The next morning, I called — but she didn’t pick, which is unlike her because she always calls me “back” whenever she misses my call.

Since then, I haven’t called her again.

Also I bought her body spray as a gift for her birthday

What do you think I should do, kings?

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One or combination of three things:


- you didn't fùck her well
- you acted too in love with her after just one night
- her sister suspects and she is advising her against you

I don't get. What were you expecting? This has been going on for years. Not just in higher institutions(Universities, Colleges, polytechnics) but ALSO in banks, churches etc

Your friends saying they wont marry a girl that went to higher institutions is just naive. Especially when 90% of girls will go through a higher institution especially the good looking and educated ones.

Now, this shouldn't discourage anyone. Not every girl will indulge in questionable acts. And even if she stays with her bf, it doesn't mean much... LTR goes beyond sex

StillDtruth:
See marketing of bad product

Gen Z girls are the sweetest to date and marry

SporaD8:
I like this part the most... It's not just a possibility but the reality Men have to face!
After the crash, She'd be like... It's all your fault - you actually intents for us to crash, that why you make it easy for me to convince you!😁

Exactly. That's why as a man in a relationship you MUST assume leadership.

If you give into her childish demands and needs... she'll blame you for it.

Another thing I forgot to add is the mindset of the relationship with them: They're like your little sisters.

So while understanding them, encourage them to do better. And punish them when/if they misbehave

MistyDense:
The way some of you talk like you "know it all" is really puzzling and baffling, to say the least.

How would you know you've chosen the wrong woman from the onset?

Based on the story, how did he mess up. Mess up in what aspect?

Well, let's just say I've been around the block. And women while sweet can be puzzling for most men.

Anyways, there are two main reasons why relationships fail: 1) Wrong woman 2) Bad leadership/relationship skills from the man

Nothing else compares to this. Your brother most likely falls in both categories given his reaction. However, I'll highlight both paths so you can understand


------ Wrong woman. This one is the more straightforward of the two. I've coached men for years... and has my fair share of wonderful women.... Most times when a guy says "I've found the right girl" it's NOT the case. Nothing will set a man up for failure in a relationship faster than choosing the wrong girl.

Now I'm not clear on the specifics that's why I said "probably" BUT there were most likely red flags he chose to ignore from the onset. Maybe he overlooked or felt "things will get better" Well, they never do. One red flag builds up to many more until they drag the relationship to its inevitable end. Some time this week... I'll write a thread on traits of a wrong woman. But for now, let's move to the next


----- Bad Relationship/Leadership skills. What most men don't realise is women want and LOVE to be understood. They like a man that just "gets" it. They love to feel desired and all the emotions that come with being with a man who KNOWS what he's doing. When this is lacking or missing, she cheats both emotionally and sexually.

Two years is the timeline in woman's mind where she starts to assess the man and the relationship... are her needs being met? (Both emotionally, mentally and sexually) Does she feel this man really gets her on a deeper level? If the answer is no to ANY of them... she starts checking out of the relationship mentally.


Most men assume because they have the right woman or any woman at all that they can now "relax" But women want reassurance that she chose the sweetest man from her. This reassurance is not with words per se but actions.

One of the most common complaints I hear from guys after their girl cheats is "but I did everything for her. She never lacked anything" What this men fail to realize is that those things he did are what HE THINKS will keep the relationship or what he thinks she wants. So he neglects her emotions her desires and even worse her body and sexual needs. The result of this? She finds someone who can meet them

Whenever women use the word "HEALING" it means one thing: Something was missing. A deep emotional, mental and sexual wound. That's why I can almost guarantee there are so many things your brother did wrong

She wants to heal from the other guy because he was satisfying a missing need or a hole in her. A need that your brother failed to do. Now, that she's "claiming" she wants to leave him... she's just trying to find a way to live with those needs and trap your brother in marriage. When she does that, she'll want "healing"again and look for that guy or another guy


The best bet for men is to recognize their woman's desires and needs... listen to her so she feels heard and understood. Only then will they have a healthier fulfilling relationship with women they love