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heartofcity12:
Wonderful. It’s better they learn the hard way like this 👍

This thread I wrote explains why paying for a woman's rent is also a bad idea:

https://www.nairaland.com/8162258/dont-surprising-truth-paying-gf


Though, I wrote from the perspective of "monthly allowance" House rent or any constant financial payment also applies.

Omini247:
Avoid married women like a plague it's part of the red pill.

I'm not red pill. And I know the issues surrounding sleeping with married women.

So I am careful with it.

dreamxhaser:
So guys. There is this very close friend of mine. She used to be my girlfriend in high school.

She has a boyfriend who is very rich and spends a lot on her. Like the guy is a better baller.

She always comes to me when she feels lonely and I am always available. We are very close because she shares women's contact with me and I give her scores on how she played the women (during my bad boy days before I fell in love with my current girlfriend ).

She knows my dirty secrets but somehow seems to still enjoy my vibes.

Now me and her don dey talk for weeks, I can sense her serious obsession with me these days.

she wants to use care and love to finish me. Though according to her the guy has been misbehaving.

So one discussion led to another and we have finally agreed to fvk. Lol, like she wants it desperately and I am gonna give it to her.

I am invited to come and eat food, then eat her. Hahahh, I have never spent a dime on this girl. But as for the boyfriend, nigger must have spent millions (not kidding) because they have been dating for years.

She knows I have a girlfriend and even knows my girlfriend. But still don't care.......

Though I am willing to take her green light. Can experts here explain why she wants me to hit her. Like I should be all sorts of red flags to her but she doesn't just care.

The kind of questions you guys ask on this thread makes me wonder why it exists in the first place.

And now, I'm starting to wonder if you're really handling your current relationship well.

Because if you read this thread, the answer to your question will be obvious


Eeven though I disagree with 50% of what is written here.... (reason why I barely comment)

The question you ask has already been discussed extensively.

Anyways, let me give you 3 reasons why. It's nothing special. It's just woman's nature in it's basic form:


----- Her boyfriend has lost his edge.

This is pretty straightforward. Most men as time progresses on start losing the qualities that got them a girl in the first place.

They start acting submissive... Apologising even when she's wrong. Giving her money to appease her bad behaviour which further reinforces the bad behaviour


Or they swing in the opposite direction. They stop being loving, caring, affectionate or fùcking her well.

When women cheat it's more about the guy she's dating than anything else. Not you the side nigga or your game skills.

I've fùcked over 70 married women and precious gfs. The most common theme is weak men & bfs. Yes, good game is there. But their partner's weakness just make things smoother

Whenever a girl says "my man is misbehaving" that is just womanese for:

"He's no longer the man I used to date"


-----You are not a red flag

You are NOT a red flag. But a green one. You have a gf... and women want what other women like. Plus she knows about your other escapades.

You also once dated her so she feels comfortable with you. So you are not a red flag. You are the best candidate for her to cheat.

Women cheat either very far away OR with someone close by they feel comfortable and trust (which you fit into)


-----Money matters not as much as you think in relationships


Despite me telling men for months now, that you can't buy a woman's love... you still have men thinking money is what women like the most

They like it sure and this more of economic/environmental factors than anything else

But women are driven by emotions. It's through emotions women become addicted.

I don't spend on women besides a date of nothing more than 2k - 3k. Sometimes I spend nothing

Because what drives women is emotions. I once talked about becoming a hook up material. That is the guy women want to fùck. And that is mostly using certain topics and techniques that get her emotional for you.

As you can see she's emotional now because her bf has neglected that aspect of her... thinking it's about money.

That's why you were the closest person for her. It's much easier and safer for girls to cheat with an ex (it's not about that bullshìt okafor's law)

Exes are safer ... and more trustworthy. Too much on her to find new dìck unless she meets a Smooth guy who is efficient at seduction.

So it's emotions >>> Money


Anyways, this should give you a better picture.

Love800:
Thanks so much.
I appreciate

Sure thing

Love800:
Pls, can you explain the bolded without adding that percentage. Explain it with plain words. Am struggling to understand.

Investing means money, emotions, effort, etc. The percentage is important for you to understand so you don't over do OR under do things.

For example, if she calls and checks up on you 7 times a week... the right balance will be to do the same like twice a week. You don't want to go over board and never call her at all. Or do something worse like matching her 7 times or calling more.

You want her general investment in the relationship to be slightly more than yours. NOT equal, NOT far below yours, And NOT way too much more than yours

Love800:
At the bolded, i thought you said she should be the one to invest more?

Yeah. She should invest more but not too much. Anything over done doesn't end well. That's why you investing 20% less than her is the sweet spot. If you invest 60% less than her for example, she'll feel like you don't regard the her or the relationship at all

otherway:
If you are not financially and emotionally mature enough to take care of a lady, stay single.

All these broke Red pill guys end up lonely and depressed.

Women are to be taken care of. Find your level.

I don't support a lady having the entitlement mentality but if you can't contribute financially to the life of a lady, you have no right to be in her life.

The post goes beyond money. You can over invest in other areas besides money.

Salary and allowance is just one of the fòolish ways men over invest.

Putting your girlfriend on allowance is a bad move. Because you are over investing in a girl you've known for less than 3 years. And most times, the girl hasn't invested in the man in any significant way.


She's not your employee that you pay salary to. You can take care of a woman without paying her monthly to be with you

dkidd:
I won't even bother with U anymore as it's obvious comprehension is ur problem. What is natural love? And who said anything about natural love? Women will only love U for what they see in U be it material or otherwise and it's nothing natural about that. Omor abeg take ur bs elsewhere I have better things to do than argue back and forth with a block head this morning

Next time open your brain to understand and not drop your half baked bs opinions.

PinkNature:
Welcome back

Thanks. A thread on drama Divas and knowing a woman's body count coming soon

dkidd:
If U read well U will see the only place I used natural is her willingness to do things for the man she loves without any external influences whatsoever. It's not rocket science she sees traits in U that's why she picked U over another. I still maintain that when she loves U more than U love her it's guaranteed to work better than U trying to make her love U in any form. Like I said if U read well u will see I also mentioned U can never truly match her investments in U if she loves U more than U do her.

It's just how it is but when U try to control or manipulate it by intentionally withholding what U can do for her materially, it puts U in the position of a bitcch. The one with lesser power. Except she knows U don't have. Like it or not she will become more controlling, possessive, masculine in attitude because she feels ur her project and she owns U. Then cheating on U comes naturally but U will still be the main guy. Most guys don't know this part and they go about chest beating how thier girl never cheats and shyyt lol... A lot of times I'm the other nigga these females cheat with but they sill maintain thier main and keep coming back for more intense fvcking but u will never know. When it gets worse they no longer keep it secret anymore. I have advised a lot of girls against this for my own safety but give a girl little power and watch the world turn.

I have been the nigga cheated on too by making the mistake of allowing her do too much and deliberately not reciprocating her gestures by withholding. It got to her head as it would most women and I became her project. I don't talk fantasies or stuffs I read from books or internet, I talk from real life experiences bro. Been there and done it all. Lol when she loves U more genuinely U can get away with almost anything. It's why U see some men maltreating these women which is very wrong and U hear stuffs like why can't she leave him? Does she want to die first? And when she's had enough she leaves because in the end she finds out there's more to life than sticking where it hurts.

Women want to feel loved even when they love U more, most importantly they still enjoy u doing whatever U can for them even when they got u covered and the moment they feel for certain U are deliberately and intentionally doing lesser than U should. The power dynamics shift. It doesn't change what they do for u but they begin to start taking control. Then again ur entitled to ur opinion as I am 😊

I suggest you read the thread properly before dropping your half baked opinions.


-Only your mother can love you "naturally" as you claim. Women love based on certain traits and experiences you provide


-Investment is NOT just about money. Your logical male brain is confusing you. Read the post again. Time, resources, emotions and experiences are all part of investment


- Women who stay with men that maltreatment them has NOTHING to do with the "natural love" bs you're talking about. It is based on her investments: emotions(pain, tears) , thoughts and experiences


- you got cheated on because you allowed her invest too much. That is why I said your investment in her should be 20% less than she is. So there's a balance. But you were in such a rush to drop your half baked opinion, you didn't bother to read the thread to understand it


Henceforth, refrain from giving opinions on things you don't fully understand

dkidd:
Old story.... The Koko is to always choose the girl that loves u more than U love her. Always know urself as the prize and carry urself as such. U don't need to inspire her to invest anything or get her to do anything for u. She naturally just wants to do these things and more for U when she genuinely loves you more. And then when U come dey knack am well on top just forget it. Her friends will advise her against U but she will still die there like say na jazz. And that 20% lesser investment in her is funny and doesn't apply. I never give a woman reason to feel she's doing me favours so I match her goodness towards me but in reality if she loves u more U can never match her goodness or favours which boils down to the Koko again the ratio of the love. And ur sounding as if U can stop a woman from cheating. Again when U are the prize and she loves U more than U love her she naturally invests more emotions,time, material things etc so her venturing to cheat is difficult women aren't wired like men. They nurture what they love and would even rather find other means of pleasure if the man she loves is falling short in that very department. They just don't loose attraction and jump to the next hard pipe because ur matching their generosity lol... Except u have never truly met one that loves U that way. U just can't match it. The more U try the more she does things for U. U try to match her generosity she breaks new records for U. The only thing U should maintain which u can't even control is the emotional investment which is always lesser than hers for U. Every other thing doesn't count. Just enjoy. And if she cheats for any reasons which is less likely since she's the one more emotionally invested don't hesitate to replace her instantly.

There's nothing like a woman just "naturally" falling in love you.

There are certain things/attributes/traits about you that inspired her love you .


Also, if you over invest in a girl you feel "naturally loves" you, she will leave you instantly.

Investment is a measure of who is in charge of the relationship. You invest more than and she feels in charge and loses attraction.

She invests more and you're the one in charge. Her attraction for you deepens

The idea of a woman loving you "naturally" where you can do no wrong is a fantasy from Disney land

Lose the qualities she likes in you, over invest In her and watch that "natural" love disappear

You don't need to stroll far on the internet before you see stories of men paying their gf's school fees or training them only for her to leave for another man.

Or putting her on salary only to find out she's cheating or sponsoring another guy. These men are shocked. And are left scratching their heads. Wondering what happened. They probably read somewhere that women love money. Their gfs probably convinced them that if these guys loved them, they'd take of them. So, they hurriedly funded their gfs. And ended up wasting his resources. As usual, the response/advise most people give is: "Never pay a girl''s fees that's not your wife"

This advise comes from a good place BUT it is still wrong. Because it falsely assumes that a woman's nature suddenly changes once she's married. If anything, it only increases and/or deepens.

So what then is the right solution to this issue? Before i tell you, let me explain the REAL reason why putting your babe on salary or paying her school fees will just lead her into the arms of another man


------Why Salary Never Works


The reason is simple. A girl's love and attraction for you deepens based on HER investment in you not yours. As men, we are logical. Men think "If i invest in her, i'll reap the rewards" They treat girls like some business project. But this is not how women's brain view love or attraction.

To her, the more she invests in you MORE than you do, the more she feels like she really loves you. So when a man meets a girl without her investing quality and quantity time, experiences, resources etc... she sees him as weak and someone she can easily manipulate.

That's why when girls tell stories of an ex they can't get over, they often say "after all i did for him" OR "nothing wey i no do for that guy" However the guy that spent on her and paid her school fees? She barely wants him.

This brings us to the key reason I mentioned. Tattoo this in your brain:

It's NOT your investment in her that matters. It's HER investment in you


This may be tough for your logical brain to grasp for now. But as you urge the women you meet to invest more in you than you do to her, you'll notice her attraction grow for you.



----HOW Do You Inspire A Woman To Invest

I'm just going to summarize. Cuz the details can fill like 10 pages. First tho, you dont want to put any gf on a salary. She's not an employee. She's not working in the relationship. It's her relationship just as it is yours.


Secondly, get her to do things and sacrifice things for you. Make her cancel plans for you. Change her schedule for you. It's important to note that I wrote "inspire her" NOT force her. You shouldnt force a woman to do anything. It will only back fire. The desire and urge should come from her based on the inspiration and direction she gets from you.

It should never feel like you're forcing her. Because after all, the mindset you should always have is that you don't need her.


Lastly, create a balance between your investment in her. As a general rule you should invest 20% less than she does. That's the sweet spot. If it's equal, you'll notice her creating drama trying to take charge of the relationship. If yours is way more, she loses attraction... feels bored and ends up cheating.

If you've ever seen this meme: "The person you love doesn't want you, It's the person that you dont like that wants you" THIS thread explains why.

Someone because of love is over investing more than they should. For a girl this isnt much of an issue. But for a man, this leads to a ton of problems and heart break along the way.


So that's it. This should give you a feel of how female attraction works. And help you form a stronger, sweeter relationship.

N/B. What you just read is very powerful. And should only be used on girls you actually love. Do not use it to waste women's time or use them. Only weak men do that

Talk soon

Crucialgem:
The fact that anytime I want to be strict with her and let her know I am not in for games, she pull out the caring mode on, she begin to ask me about personal and family stuff

I have read a lot of "sign to see in a girl that loves you" here on nairaland and I have seen it in her, the problem is why pulling the boyfriend string when it looks like the feeling the mutual

Loving you doesn't mean she wants to date you neither doesn't it mean she'll make a good gf.

Anyways, you're a simp. So a simp will always return to his simpish ways

Continue trying

First off, NO I do not agree that you should ever simp for any woman.

Why?

Because simping does nothing but chase the girl away and make her disgusted. Yes, you're allowed to like and love a girl. But simping is out of the question because it makes you look weak.

Now, back to your question. The girl is simply enjoying your company, vibes and possibly knacks that you give and/or will give her.

You are strictly for fun. And not to be taken seriously for a bf or relationship.

That's why she keeps reminding you that she has a boyfriend so you do not make the mistake of falling for her then asking her out...

Because the moment you do that, you've ruined her vibe/fantasy and she will pull away.

Also, If you're not fùcking her.... Start immediately you're done reading this

Recently I met a long time class mate and we got to talking about women.

He was struggling and was wondering why girls give mixed signals.

If you've been wondering why as well, you'll discover a lot of things from how I broke it down.

There are generally three main reasons why a girl gives mixed signals. Ignore any pointless red pill advice that says "it's because she's not interested"

In my experience and that of many other seducers, girls can be very much interested still give mixed signals. So when I see stuff like that, I always call bullshìt

Now, let's dive into these reasons:


----- She likes you And is playing a game to hook you


If you've ever spent time with enough women, you'll realise part of the tactics they use to get guys is to send mixed signals.

Whenever you notice how obvious a girl's games are, there's a BIG chance she likes you.

You see, men are not the only gender looking for how to understand relationships. Girls do the same too. And since a lot of girls are insecure and naive, they tend to listen to what people on tiktok say or what their friends tell them

You've probably seen stories where girls give each other this kinds of advice: "don't reply him too fast so he won't think your desperate" "don't call him back. He'll think your cheap" "if he likes you he'll call again"

These are all things girls do to make you interested if she feels insecure around you or that you're too much for her


------ You're sending mixed signals yourself so she's not sure about you.


The first reason brings us to the second one.


Go to every corner in the men community today and a common advice you'll hear is : "send mixed signals to remain a mystery or hook her"

Very sound advice and it works very well. But too much of everything is bad. And doing a great tactic at the wrong time can bring negative results


Less experienced guys or guys who make mistakes will send a bunch of mixed signals (either too much or wrong time) That will CONFUSE the girl.

The girl gets so unsure or confused about your intentions that she mirrors you.

She starts sending mixed signals to see if you're really or genuinely interested in her.

It's important to remember that confusion is anti-seductive.


---- She's naive.

Naive girls still trying to understand men send out mixed signals subconsciously.

They're still juggling with their emotions and processing men in general.

This can make them act in weird ways like she's giving mixed signals


As always it's important to not fit women into one category.

While women are simple, they're different too.

Calibration is key in seduction. And it involves observing a girl and knowing which category she falls into

Nigerian men have this disgusting habit of excusing woman's behaviour.

Few minutes ago, a girl was condescending to a guy calling him "useless" and rather than withdrawing his attention completely...

He proceeded to flirt, make stùpid jokes and tried to get her liking me. Of course, they all failed.

His reason for such was nonsense was "you know say na fine girl na"

And so what?

It seems the concept of men being the prize isn't getting into some guy's heads


With me, no girl is off the hook just because she's a girl or she's fine. And personally I don't care how many suitors buy her wigs before dates or pet her even her bad behaviour.

Around me, I challenge and test her to prove herself to me. The hotter she is, the more I challenge her

And it's always funny how they get submissive and sweet once they realize you're not a pushover.

They're cravings to fùck to you gets even higher.

As a man, you have to understand you're the prize. Not only you as a man. But your dìck too

Your dìck is the prize to be won. That's the basic concept behind being a hook up material instead of a husband or bf material

It's been a minute. But I'm back. Thanks to you guys that sent me emails and texts.

And no, I didn't forget about the threads.

----The first one will be out False Rape accusations/allegations and how to prevent them.

If you're like me, that's actively enjoying the sexual pleasures of hot women then keep an eye out for it. Cause it takes one false allegation to ruin your reputation. I've seen it happen


----The second will be on Drama Divas. If you are actively seducing women, you MUST encounter these girls. They are the early love bombers and girls with daddy issues. Some are those from toxic relationships.

At the beginning things are soooo sweet with them. She love you. You're the best she's ever had then one day she changes all of a sudden. And you're confused. This sweet girl you met is now a drama loving, emotional draining monster.

So what happened? I'll talk about it in the thread too


---And lastly, how to detect a girl's body count range.

You won't ever know the exact number. BUT you can have a good idea of what range the exact number will be in

You'll discover certain traits and tactics to discover them

On that note, have a wonderful week and enjoy the pleasure and company of hot women

Philosopher1979:
As a guy have you ever had sex with a low class girl and regretted it. Like having sex with a street hawker and feeling disappointed with yourself. Well, it also happens with girls. If they make a mistake and sex a guy they normally won't eg maybe a university graduate has a fling with a bus conductor. If the lady regrets it, she will lie she was raped just not to feel bad about her mistake.
The gender can lie about rape if they just get down with the wrong person in a careless way. That's oart of the reason for false rape accusations.
This gender can be silly

Women are silly and cute. They act like babies while being adults at the same time.

That is why you must treat them as both. Depending on the circumstance, context, situation and girl

What you gave is part of the reason why girls falsely accuse of rape but it's far from being the only or even the main one.

I'll write a thread on it tho. Because it will help a lot of guys. Especially those planning to go abroad or have plans of being famously successful

That movie like that guy said is a true story. A potential NFL star getting robbed of his dream.

It's fùcked up that it happens. But we can blame women all we want. Or find ways to navigate around things and prevent it from happening to you.


There are measures, precautions and how to talk to girls you meet that will drastically reduce the odds of falsely being accused.

I haven't been accused and I've fùcked a lot of women. And there are certain principles I follow.

In the thread I'll talk about them (including false pregnancy too) and how guys can cause themselves to be falsely accused.

In stuffs like this, prevention is better than cure

CuteNbad:
what happens when you're desperate?
A woman once said I am.

Yeah I get. When I tell guys to become lust or hook up materials this is a problem they encounter.

Girls telling them they're desperate or doing too much or knowing what they want.

You see, this method is the fastest way to fùck any girl. But because it's fast it's also risky.

Showing your sexual desire can make a girl feel Hot and ready for you. BUT it should be done at the right time and in the right way.

If a girl is telling you're desperate, then it's one of two things or both.

1) You are overdoing it or showing too much desire. Because your desire is too much it has flipped from desire to desperation.

Yes, girls love it when you desire then and it gets them Hot. But you shouldn't over do it. You don't have to constantly desiring them. Because that's not how the prize behaves.

You should take a step back often and allow her show her desire for you.

Remember, a woman's ultimate fantasy is to chase a man and show all her desire for him. If you show too much of yours before she has a chance to show hers, you Rob her of that fantasy


2) The second reason is that you're not being real with her.

Yes, she wants and loves sex but if that's all you do or talk about she'll feel your desperate.

Don't be too obvious with your sexual desire. The point of being a lust material is to plant SUBTLE seeds of lust in her mind. That'll grow right up to the point she's in your room. Once she's in your room the tree of lust has grown in her mind of you..

And you can ravish the fruits of sex as much as you want.

But first, you must SUBTLY plant those seeds of desire and lust in her mind.

If you're too obvious with it, she will think you're desperate and run away


Hope that helps

joezyni:
I will like to read your thrend about this post whenever you make it, I once had a relationship with a girl that was exactly like this, I was naive then shaa..

Funny thing is I still remember her, but we haven't talked for two years now

Yeah, these kind of girls are usually unforgettable because of the whirlwind of emotions and drama they bring

The thread should be ready this week or weekend

Smartb0y:
If she's on and off,she just wanna play you.

It's as simple as that.

Reel you in ,get you to invest more then go for the kill.

Women are really vicious 😅

I disagree.

This is one of the many misconceptions in the men's community.

The tendency of making black and white arguments: "If it's not this extreme then it's the other extreme"

If a girl is OBVIOUSLY playing games with you then she's interested and likes you.

I'm sure you've probably had this experience before (like every other guy). You're texting or vibing with a girl and she's just going hot and cold with you. You tell yourself that this one is just shakara because of how obvious she's making it.

Whenever you see something like that, just know the girl is interested

Do you think men are the only one that read stuff online on how to get better women?

Women do the same. In fact "mixed signals" is a common tactic used to get people attracted from both genders.

Once you see a girl doing that it means she's shown her cards that she likes you. So she wants to try and get you interested as well. That way it won't feel one sided.

Some other girls will love bomb you as tactic. Some will offer sex. Some will be submissive. Etc

If you've had enough experience, you will know different girls have different tactics to get a guy interested In them when they've shown all their cards.

The main thing is HOW you respond to these mixed signals. If you chase or get angry or get rude... you've failed.


Another reason why a girl sends mixed signals is that something about how you're seducing is making her unsure about you.

Remember confusion is anti seductive. Mystery is sexy but not confusion. Most guys in their aim to stay mysterious end up confusing the girl.

If a girl is confused about you, she'll throw mixed signals so you can reveal yourself a bit more and she can understand you better.

Yes, mixed signals CAN be a sign she's playing with you. But there are many cases where it's not the case

Philosopher1979:
Young man you are harnessing sexual energy which us a basic crude but powerful energy of the universe, humanity and human relations. Its present in every human being. Thats all. I'm not good in the details anyway.

However, try and encourage youths to go into something that will develop them. Entrepreneurial skills, intellectual development etc. No be everything be sex. Woman etc. We all know sex is innate to everybody male or female. But then, there is more to life than having sex.
Teach young men more useful things. How to be succesful and respected in society. How to harness your talents etc

Yes it is powerful. Very powerful. Sexual energy exists in everyone.

But it goes beyond just harnessing it... it's has to be refined, channeled and displayed in a way that it can wake up a woman's sexual desire for you

It something that takes practice, experience and skill to know how to do.

Now, regarding your stuff about entrepreneurship... I'd like to remind you that my primary goal is making men better at handling women. And to give men the choice and opportunity to have wonderful, beautiful, stimulating relationships with women that serve their goals

If you do things the way I teach them, women will be a compliment to your life. They will help and support you in your purpose. Few things are as powerful as a woman riding for you and supporting. She will go all out to please you

In a world where about half of the population are women, it is delusional to not learn how to handle or deal with them.

You seem to underestimate how many men are clueless and lost with women. Even a large majority of red pillers are clueless with women (always trying to play defensive and thinking women are out to get them)... Not to talk of average guys who aren't privileged to know this


So you make all the money, get all the status... then what? You pick the wrong woman. And everything comes crashing down. This happens regularly. I've had men write me to tell me how one woman or the other finished them

And most of them are just basic stuff they could have handled.

While there's a place for business etc... there's a rightful and we'll deserved place for seduction and sex. No two ways about it.

It's even harder to learn about women when you're successful because you become a target for fake love and gold digging. If you're inexperienced, you will fumble massively.

I have rich, successful guys that are completely clueless with women. These men are even willing pay thousands so I can teach them. Something they could have learnt for free back then by interacting with women.

Seduction and sex is an area I specialise in because I have extensive experience in. That's why I talk about it

If you have other areas of male development you talk about, share it. But don't discourage men who are looking to develop their relationship life


EDIT:

Also, if you go through my posts you'll notice one where I gave a guy that had his mental health messed up by a "Drama Diva"

Those girls are very common now with Gen z. The guy has already made a huge mistake with that girl. And will most likely pay for it in future whe the girl comes for him after he's successful

Learning how to deal with those girls and other categories of girls will be beneficial to any man

jmoore:
Your perception of virginity is adulterated, hence makes your opinion a hogwash.

A virgin is one that has never been involved in any sex, be it oral, anal or vaginal. Therefore it is ridiculous to call a woman who has done 0ral sex a virgin.

A true virgin woman is sexually pure, she has not gotten involved with anyone sexually, she has mastered selfcontrol. And when a true virgin makes a choice to remain a virgin till marriage, then she is a diamond.

Underate selfcontrol at your own peril.

There is nothing like cheating in boy/girlfriend relationship. They are just fornicating with other people same way they were fornicating with themselves.

If you can't avoid fornication while single, adultery will be your next class when married.

I disagree. If a girl has only kissed 2 guys is she a virgin? Yes

Now if those 2 guys are her bf and a guy she cheated on her bf with... her morals & loyalty are in question.

If you think a virgin is a girl who has never even kissed a guy before... you have a better chance of finding a horse that can fly than a girl like that

Don't let your ego delude you into some fantasy.

At the end of day, the point is that loyalty is more important than Virginity.

Even if we threw out MouthAction and left it at kissing... a girl that cheats by kissing is worse than a girl who has never cheated but with a low body count.

eazzzy1:
I will choose neither Rita nor Jane as they are not the only girls in the world. Even if they were, there’s an option of being single. Rita is a cheat and Jane is very comfortable with fwb situations, because how has she dated one man but has four body counts?

With a gun to my head to pick one, I choose the virgin. Women won’t tell you they’ve cheated in the past, neither will you be given an accurate body count. The only thing you can confirm in this case is the virginity.

I’m not particular about virginity, I’m more of a personality/character guy. If the perfect fit comes in a virgin package, good for me. If not, good for me too. The goal is to find someone whose value aligns with mine. Someone I can easily live with over a very long period of time.

I look at the kind of family that raised you, what are your values, how many male friends do you have, how do you dress, what kind of topics interests you, what do you post on social media, who are your friends Etc. with all these verifiable indices, I can estimate what a woman’s body count is and decide if it’s within my threshold.

Finally, what ever choice I make, I leave room for the possibility of things ending. That is a possible outcome I’m always prepared for even when things are rosy.

The first and second paragraph is your ego speaking.

The options are the options. If gun to your head, you'd choose someone who has a track record of cheating over someone with a body count of 4... you will make grave mistakes of monumental proportions

Jozilinn:
To marry a virgin doesn't guarantee happiness my cousin sister got married a virgin still yet her husband wasn't even giving her proper care but rather he was trying to get her pregnant each year while he prevented her from association and family planning... because she wanted to continue her education it became a case of you will die so like the op said it's the vision of the lady itself but also the way and the Manner the husband is to his wife be her a virgin or not. The relationship you termed ungodly gives both partners a chance to grow together that's if they are both loyal to each other no be to suffer with woman finish then when you make am you say she's not my type and class,then you marry who never know you because na virgin like say she's too perfect, when your money finish the virgin will tell you you're not an option anymore so loyalty is the best In every relationship.

Well said

You are both wrong and right at the same time. Let me tell you why.

You are right for allowing things to end. But you are soo wrong for a host of other reasons.

First, this kind of girl is what I call Drama Divas. These kind of girls will be the sweetest and worst kind in a relationship


I was going to write a thread on them and the best ways to handle them. But I couldn't due to time. Maybe if I did, and you read it... would have saved you from making costly mistakes


Let me guess...

At the start, this girl was so sweet to you. She was loving, respectful, submissive. She confessed her feelings to you. Told you how much she loved you. Showed you care and affection.

She said you were the best thing that ever happened to her. She complimented you a lot on your good qualities. She'd call to check up on you and wanted to spend time with you.

Then all of a sudden she changed...

Her love bombing dropped out of nowhere. She promised to change but never really did.

And because this was your first time with this kind of girls.. you were caught off guard. Then, you made the biggest mistake of all: You begged

You see, these Drama Divas are in a special category of 3 kinds of girls. The other two are: Daddy issue girls and girls with a history of toxic bfs or relationships

The worst thing you can do with these girls is to make them feel they "have" you or beg them to stay with you


Why?

Because all their lives they're the ones begging. Begging for their dad to come back. Begging not to be abandoned.

So when as a man you do the Begging She starts doubting her love for you. Because that's not what she's really used to.

The thing is this girl isn't a wicked person or a nonsense girl. She's damaged. Life doesn't come with a manual on how to handle relationships

She's only reacting based on how life and people she cared about treating her.

She isn't consciously trying affect your mental health. It's her subconscious taking over based on what she's experienced

If you dig through her past... you'll notice a history of abandonment. This has made her the way she is.

You should have just let her go. And advise her to seek therapy (do NOT save her yourself)

You're not the only guy neither is that guy. There are others. So it's pointless chatting up other guys

Keep an eye out for my thread on this. Because these group of girls are very common among these gen z girls

I've personally encountered more than 10 of them.

They will make you feel so special. Hype up your ego... then along the line they start throwing drama, tests and challenges to drain you.

You'll be great if she never feels you're completely hers. And if you can control your emotions and not overreact

The general goal tho, is to never date them. Rather, keep them as friends with benefits or fùck buddies till they move on to marriage

wahaladondey:
Hey men, I need y’all input. I’ve been talking with this girl for a while and she likes me (very obviously), now the problem is I’m a very socially restrained kind of guy so I consciously avoid the sex topic, I want to ask her out but I want to Bleep her first or at least get sexual with her. How do I go about infusing sexuality in our normal daily conversations?

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And every other senior men on this thread, good morning.

Simple.

When the sex topic comes up, don't avoid it. Just stay with it. Be calm... share your thoughts and opinions in a chill, confident way

Ask about hers too. While talking with her.... picture yourself fùcking her. And let that sexual energy move through your body. Embrace it. As the interaction proceeds, she'll feel the energy and get turned on

Be bold to make moves on her. You have to understand that women LOVE sex.

She's been dying for you to get sexual with her and bang her.

When you do this, she'll test you. Remain calm, don't overreact. For me, I ignore most shìt test with a smirk

A woman testing is her natural inclination to love tension. That's why she loves drama. That's why they love sneaky sex. That's why they love threesomes and fùcking in public places

So she will want to put you under tension with testing & drama to see how you react.

Act offended or reactive and she'll think your weak and leave. Remain calm and her attention increases.

So to recap, talk about sex with her in a calm chill way. Don't laughing and giggling like a girl. Just talk about it comfortably. Tell her you love sex and how passionate it is. But that you love sex with a special kind of woman. If she asks you what that kind of woman is just tell her " you find out later" with a smirk


Do not attempt to hide your sexual desire. But don't be desperate.

The reason women lust after me is because my sexual desire rubs off on them.

So allow yours to come out but don't be desperate about it.

Many guys have asked me about this. Seems getting things sexual is a common problem from guys.

Later, I'll pen a comprehensive guide on it. But this should be helpful for you

The simple fact from experience: Virginity is overrated.

There's something much more important. Before i tell you what it is let's zoom in on the problems with "marry only virgins"

Almost every corner of the Internet where men exist seem to champion the false belief that "Virgins make the best wives"

If you're going to place the fate of your relationship on a woman being virgin.... you will be shocked how wrong such an idea is.

Most virgins today are not doing so out of moral principle. But ego. To boast and brag that they kept it. For them it's another way to compete with women. (Since as you probably know, women LOVE competition)

Many men have cuffed virgins only to find out it was quite deceiving (coughs is israel dmw) Things like how she treats you, her relationship with her dad are much more important

But there's one more, that rises above them all

So what is it?

A History Or Track Record Of Cheating

Nothing says a girl is more likely to cheat on you than if she has done so in the past.

You might think that with you it will be different. Heck, she might even convince you that your case is different and that you don't have to worry.

Those last 2 boy friends she cheated on? They were àssholes. But to her, you're different. Months and years down the line, you find out she's getting dug out by your neighbour. And you're wondering why it happened. After all, she was a virgin

The Virginity angle might sound cool in theory. But it is far from practical. It deceives a man into placing undue importance on something that is VERY FAR from a guaranteee.

Let's look at an example:

You have 2 girls. Rita and Jane. Rita is a virgin. Jane has a body count of 4.

Rita while being a virgin has dated 2 guys in the past that she cheated on. With the first guy she made out with another guy and gave him a blòw job. With the second guy, she made out with her friend.


Jane on the other hand has a body count of 4 guys and has been in one relationship. She never cheated on the guy and was loyal?

Who are you choosing Rita the Virgin or Jane the loyal gf with 4 body counts

It will be foòlishness of the greatest degree to choose Rita because she's a virgin. I say foolishness not as an insult but to highlight the appalling nature of someone willing to make mistakes just to have a virgin.


Now, a woman's past is a determinant of her future. But her body count isn't the first thing or 5th you should be looking for.

Any history of cheating from her end is a much better indicator of how she'll treat you.

If you had a business and someone recommended a guy to you then says "this guy is a hardworking, always punctual, friendly etc . However he has a tendency to run people street and steal"

You would most likely not accept that person but rather find someone which much better values

Now this isn't an excuse to knock up a girl with 30 body counts. High body counts like that are a no go as well for various reasons

Anyways, that's it... when vetting a woman for long term potential, try as much as possible to find out her track record of cheating.

This will serve you better. Virginity while can be helpful, is an overrated metric

Stay blessed

The following are 25 maxims for you to have an abundance of women.

I follow all of them and you should too


---- women are cute, silly creatures and naughty sexual adults at the same time. Don't overreact or take what they do seriously.

Don't overreact to little things. But at the same time, hold her accountable and punish her bad behaviour. It's not a contradiction but a paradox. One that once you understand, you'll have an endless supply of gorgeous women hungry for your dìck


---- Her emotions matter than logic. Use emotional language to stimulate her and get her to do things for you. The more logical you are with women, the worse you'll do.

Understand that what she says is a reflection of her CURRENT emotional state.

She says she loves you? Okay - right now
She says she hates you? Okay - right now


---- Never leave your purpose for women

---- Her words don't matter. Only her actions


---- negative emotion is better than no emotion. Make her feel drama, anger, sadness and jealousy and she'll never leave you


---- women aren't looking to manipulate you. They want to enjoy a satisfying relationship with you.

However, if you make yourself an easy target, she'll exploit you. Like most women would


---- the more Conservative, holy or good she looks or behaves, the wilder her naughty side is.

Every girl is naughty. Even the "good ones" Especially the good ones


---- women want a strong leader not a follower.


---- Never hide your sexuality or willingness to fùck. Women want and love to fùck

They want it just as you do. Show them that you can give it to them and give it.

--- no matter how great things are with a girl, things can go bad fast.

And no matter how much drama she gives, she'll always come around.


---- every girl has a goal (money, Connection, career, sex, stability, children, soft life, party etcs)

As long as you're serving that goal in her life she'll always want you. Sex is one goal majority of women have


---- Over the long term she should be investing into the relationship more than you.

---- She should never completely feel like she "has" you.

The moment she does, she'll look for another challenge


---- women will pretend for various reasons. You should develop intuition to know when she's lying

---- watch your woman's self esteem. Being a bad boy is great but too much of it can trigger her insecurities and send your relationship crashing


--- she doesn't necessarily love you. She loves how you make her feel and how you make her achieve her goals

That is why her goals should be aligned to yours


---- you never really truly know a woman until you've bleeped more than 3 times.

---- she will try to change you or domesticate you. Never let it happen


---- Bleep her first (and fast) date her later

--- hook up material >>> Bf material >>> husband material.

--- there's no point a woman's drama or testing is ever over. It will continue till the day you die


---- her past matters. But not mostly her body count.

If she has cheated before, she's more than likely to cheat again (even if she's a virgin)

---- Sex is a glue. Fùck your woman well

---- too many male friends mean too many hands in the soup

25 maxims for you to have an abundance of women:


---- women are cute, silly creatures and naughty sexual adults at the same time. Don't overreact or take what they do seriously.

Don't overreact to little things. But at the same time, hold her accountable and punish her bad behaviour. It's not a contradiction but a paradox. One that once you understand, you'll have an endless supply of gorgeous women hungry for your dìck


---- Her emotions matter than logic. Use emotional language to stimulate her and get her to do things for you. The more logical you are with women, the worse you'll do.

Understand that what she says is a reflection of her CURRENT emotional state.

She says she loves you? Okay - right now
She says she hates you? Okay - right now


---- Never leave your purpose for women

---- Her words don't matter. Only her actions


---- negative emotion is better than no emotion. Make her feel drama, anger, sadness and jealousy and she'll never leave you


---- women aren't looking to manipulate you. They want to enjoy a satisfying relationship with you.

However, if you make yourself an easy target, she'll exploit you. Like most women would


---- the more Conservative, holy or good she looks or behaves, the wilder her naughty side is.

Every girl is naughty. Even the "good ones" Especially the good ones


---- women want a strong leader not a follower.


---- Never hide your sexuality or willingness to fùck. Women want and love to fùck

They want it just as you do. Show them that you can give it to them and give it.

--- no matter how great things are with a girl, things can go bad fast.

And no matter how much drama she gives, she'll always come around.


---- every girl has a goal (money, Connection, career, sex, stability, children, soft life, party etcs)

As long as you're serving that goal in her life she'll always want you. Sex is one goal majority of women have


---- Over the long term she should be investing into the relationship more than you.

---- She should never completely feel like she "has" you.

The moment she does, she'll look for another challenge


---- women will pretend for various reasons. You should develop intuition to know when she's lying

---- watch your woman's self esteem. Being a bad boy is great but too much of it can trigger her insecurities and send your relationship crashing


--- she doesn't necessarily love you. She loves how you make her feel and how you make her achieve her goals

That is why her goals should be aligned to yours


---- you never really truly know a woman until you've bleeped more than 3 times.

---- she will try to change you or domesticate you. Never let it happen


---- Bleep her first (and fast) date her later

--- hook up material >>> Bf material >>> husband material.

--- there's no point a woman's drama or testing is ever over. It will continue till the day you die


---- her past matters. But not mostly her body count.

If she has cheated before, she's more than likely to cheat again (even if she's a virgin)

---- Sex is a glue. Fùck your woman well

---- too many male friends mean too many hands in the soup

heartofcity12:
Can you just imagine..

Some of the your posts are exaggerated and not really a true reflection of reality. But most are spot on. Like this one

Nothing is more exciting and attractive to a woman than seeing women around you or wanting you.

You can't go wrong from a woman knowing other women desire you.

It's like cocaine to their brain. And they fight to keep you and not lose you.

And it's not even about cheating. It's just a natural instinct to go for something other women want.

That's why it's a HUGE mistake when you stop flirting with other girls when you have a gf

Light casual flirts with female friends, waitresses etc is a fine way to raise her attraction for you

A question for you today:

"What's the biggest indicator that a woman would cheat on You?"

If you threw this question into a hall of red pill, alpha male men, and really most men... you'd be met with varying responses:

From body count to losing frame to even shallow ones like "if she's not a virgin" etc


While some of them are good indicators, there's one that blows the rest out of the water.

What is it?

A History or track record of cheating.

Few things come close. You're more likely to be cheated on than someone who has cheated on her bf or man in the past.

Lots of guys would probably agree with this when you tell them... but then, fall for a girl that tells them how she cheated on her last two bus wasn't her fault.


A history of cheating is more important than her body count.

Take for example to girls Jane and Sandra. Jane is a virgin while Sandra has a body count of 4 (in sec school, her bf, her neighbour and a friend)

Jane while being a virgin has had a bf before. Now, in that relationship No sex happened. It was mostly intense fore play (blow jòb etc)

While dating her bf... Jane had an affair with her neighbour and she sucked his dìck a couple of times.

Sandra while having a higher body count, had never cheated on her bf.

You'd be wrong to think Jane wouldn't cheat on you simply because she's a virgin

This is why the "virginity at all cost" mantra is a big myth and why alpha males still get played repeatedly.

A girl with a history of distrustful character like cheating is more than likely to do it again. Of course, it's not a must. But the odds are higher.

And as we all know, an experienced seducer follows a higher odds strategy