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@PatriotZAR:

The below is from a UAV Pilot;

"The Gulma series project was borne by NAF’s vision at Optimizing Local Engineering (OLE), developing aviation technology in Nigeria using 100% Nigerians and within Nigeria as much as possible – Indigenous is the key word. @Crystal Aerospace cleared thoroughly on the wealth of experience of the NAF team working on the Gulma."

Also see below;

"The black camera on board has a tau 640 IR sensor. The drone can operate day and night and has one of the best autopilots on-board. The aircraft was designed by an Air Force team made of 8 PhDs (all trained at Cranfield University UK) plus over 30 Officers with MSc in Aerospace Vehicle design, all from Cranfield University UK. The process from concept to test flight was over 80,000 man hours of work. Guys, let’s learn to appreciate good things"

https://beegeagle./2013/12/18/nigeria-unveil-first-indigenous-unmanned-aerial-vehicle-gulma-designed-and-constructed-by-the-nigerian-air-force/

This was as of 1991 talk about now;

"For its part, the NAF Training Command operated three flying schools offering comprehensive flight, armaments, helicopter, and paratrooper training, and a Technical Training Group (TTG). The air force had specialized schools for such subjects as primary and advanced flying, helicopter weapons, and tactical training. Primary flight training was conducted at the 301 Flying Training School at the Nigerian air base in Kaduna, under the air force Tactical Training Group. British Bulldogs were the primary trainers, and Aermacchi MB-339ANs were used for basic and advanced flight training. In July 1989, the Student Pilot School graduated eleven of the fourteen candidates who started the course. Since its inception in 1964, more than 600 pilots from the NAF and from other African countries have graduated. In 1987 the Tactical Air Command at Makurdi acquired sophisticated British Aerospace flight simulators to reduce accidental crashes. When fully operational, the NAF helicopter training school at Enugu also planned to train pilots from other African countries."

http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-9466.html

PatriotZAR: ''
Me: How many pilots have you trained over the years? I can search the farthest corners of the Web i'll never find info on the training commands of the NAF because as Agaugust wouldlove to say, ''Nigerian Military is secretive''. Well we all know why they are so untransparent...They do not want to be the laughing stock of Africa especially not when Nigerians consider themselves the 'Giant of Africa'.

You're welcome to bring whatever good info you have on your Airforce's training.

Organisation Structure of The Nigerian Air Force



Training Command

The first requirement of any air force is a constant supply of a crop of highly motivated and competent airmen and airwomen. No matter the level of sophistication of platforms, they cannot attain the mission objectives if the personnel behind them are ill trained and incompetent.

The NAF therefore places great premium on training and re-training of its personnel to ensure a high state of readiness at all times.

To achieve optimum personnel skills at reasonable costs, the NAF established the to enable her embark on the development of an internal training capacity. The Command is tasked with the responsibility for all local training both in the air and on the ground. Since its establishment in August 1978, TC has been involved in the provision of both initial and advanced training for NAF pilots, paratroopers and air traffic controllers.

Ground training is also provided for support services and technical personnel. So far, the Command has trained over 1,699 Officers and 10,150 airmen and women in various trade specialities.
The Command is organised into a Command Headquarters located in Kaduna with three Staff Branches namely: Operations, Logistics and Administration. The Air Officer Commanding (AOC) heads the Command, assisted by a Senior Air Staff Officer and Principal Staff Officers.
There are 10 field units under the Command comprising 3 flying training schools, 2 ground training facilities, a logistics group, 3 medical facilities and 2 other administrative units. The locations of the units are as follows:
i. 301 Flying Training School, Kaduna.
ii. 303 Flying Training School, Kano.
iii. 305 Flying Training School, Enugu.
iv. 320 Technical Training Group, Kaduna.
v. 325 Ground Training Group, Kaduna.
vi. 330 NAF Station Jos.
vii. 333 Logistics Group, Kaduna.
viii. 335 Base Services Group, Kaduna.
ix. 345 Aeoromedical Hospital, Kaduna.
x. NAF Hospital, Jos.
xi. The Aeromedical Centre Project at Kaduna.

301 Flying Training School
The 301 Flying Training School (301 FTS) is the cradle of pilot training in the NAF. It started as the Light Transport and Liaison Squadron in 1964 and was charged with the responsibility of converting NAF pilots who were returning home from overseas training. However, with the outbreak of the Civil War in 1967, the nation’s need for pilots increased while the available slots for pilots’ training overseas became inadequate to meet the country’s operational needs. Consequently, the Light Liaison Transport Squadron was tasked to undertake primary flying training in addition to its original task of converting NAF pilots. As a result, the Squadron grew in strength and was later redesignated as the Primary Flying Training Wing (PFTW). Following further expansion and subsequent re-organisation of the NAF in 1984, the Wing was upgraded and renamed the 301 Flying Training School (301 FTS).
The school has over the years, used several aircraft types for ab-initio training purposes. It started training with the Piaggio-149D aircraft from Germany. This was later replaced with the Bulldog 123. Other aircraft types operated in the 60s and 70s were the DO-27, DO-28 and DO 128-2. Currently, the aircraft holding of the school include the Airbeetle ABT-18, Dornier 128-6 and the DO-228 aircraft series.
Since its inception, the school has trained over 600 pilots for the NAF including the first set of pilots for the Nigerian Navy. The school has assisted in the training of pilots from friendly African countries including 5 from the Republic of Benin, 4 from Cape Verde, 3 from Niger Republic, 10 from Zimbabwe and one from Sierra Leone.
These are spread between Student Pilot Courses 1 and 32 (SP 1 to Sp 32) with the present batch undergoing training as SP 33. The number of students trained could have been higher but for the six year period (1988-1994), when NAF suffered a debilitating lull in training due to lack of funds to sustain training. However, with the emphasis on training by the current NAF leadership, the School is fully operational and the training backlog is being redressed.
301 FTS is also tasked to conduct operational conversion, type-rating and recurrency training for NAF transport pilots on the Dornier aircraft series. Furthermore, it provides light liaison and VIP transport as well as courier services for the NAF. Besides it primary roles of ab-initio and transport pilot training, 301 FTS has featured in aerial displays during NAF and National day celebrations.
It has also been involved in various internal security initiatives and joint exercises. Prominent among these are the Maitatsine Crises in Kano, the Ops Harmony series in the Northeastern parts of the country and simulated air cover during Nigerian Defence Academy cadets training exercises.

303 Flying Training School
Following the Statutory Act of Parliament that officially established the NAF in April 1964, some basic organizational structure was put in place for the nascent service to function properly. One of these structures was the Nigerian Air Force Tactical and Technical Wing (NAFTW) Kaduna, comprising the Military Training School (MTS), Light Transport and Liaison Squadron (LTLS) and support elements of administration, engineering and supply.
NAF Kano was born out of the LTLS in August 1967. NAF Kano, then a detachment was established as a result of the expansion embarked upon by the NAF to prosecute the civil war. At that time, the unit was tasked with conducting operational training for combat crew on the L-29, MiG 15 and 17 aircraft types.
In 1969, the detachment was transformed into a pilot training institution with student pilots of Basic Flying Course One (BFC 1) as the first intake. Today, 11 basic flying courses have been concluded with the current one being BFC 12 Bravo.
During the post civil war reorganization between 1970 and 1975 the unit was renamed Advanced Flying Training Wing (AFTW). However, by March 1975, the station was upgraded to a group status known as Flying Training Group (FTG) with two Flying Wings namely, Primary Flying Training Wing (PFTW) stationed at Kaduna and Basic Flying Training Wing (BFTW) located in Kano. The MiG 21s and Alpha Jets were at various times stationed at Kano before relocating to their bases at Makurdi and Kainji. The school attained its present status in 1985, when it was renamed 303 Flying Training School (303 FTS), with the sole responsibility of conducting basic flying training on jet aircraft using the L-29 aircraft type. The L-29 aircraft hitherto used as basic trainer aircraft was later phased out due to age and replaced with the MB-339 Aermachi in June 1985. By 1986, the L-39ZA aircraft was introduced as the basic trainer, while the MB-339 was re-roled as a close support aircraft.
In 1989, the Instructor Pilot Training Wing was established to give NAF a capacity to train its instructor pilots locally. The wing, which was initially designated as Instructor Pilot School (IPS), was meant to be an independent unit to be located in Minna (Niger State). However following the rationalization of NAF units, the IPS remained in Kano as a wing under 303 FTS. The primary role of the Instructor Pilot Training Wing (IPTW) is to produce instructor pilots on fast jet aircraft for the NAF.
Since its inception, the 303 FTS has trained 112 pilots comprising Nigerians and foreigners. The foreigners include 4 pilots from Zimbabwe and 8 Ghanaians who attended a conversion course on the L-29 aircraft. As in the case of the primary training programmes, the lull of 1988 to 1994 also affected the basic flying training programme. However with the re-newed focus on training by the current NAF leadership, a new momentum has been introduced into the activities of the school.

305 Flying Training School
The 305 Flying Training School (305 FTS) Enugu, metamorphosed from NAF Station Enugu, which was established in the mid-1970s. NAF Station Enugu was the home of the MiG 17 fighter aircraft until 1981, when the Headquarters of Tactical Air Command (HQ TAC) and Air Defence Group (ADG) were established at Makurdi.
Subsequently, following the recognition of the need to train its own helicopter pilots locally, the NAF established 305 FTS as an ab-initio and basic helicopter flying school. Being the first and only one of its kind in the sub-region, the 305 FTS was established to provide helicopter training for pilots of the NAF and sister Services of the armed forces as well as friendly African countries. On 22 February 1987, the pioneer set of helicopter pilots to be trained locally commenced training as Basic Helicopter Flying Course 1 (BHFC 1) on the Hughes 300C helicopter.
However, during the rationalisation of NAF units in 1991, the School was downgraded to a wing status and relocated to 97 Special Operations Group Port Harcourt, while what was left became a NAF detachment. In subsequent years, the need to have an autonomous helicopter training school to complement the fixed wing schools at 301 and 303 FTS led to the re-establishment of 305 FTS Enugu in June 2000. By 2001, the unit became active again and the Mi-34C trainer helicopter was introduced into NAF inventory to replace the Hughes 300. The same lull that befell NAF aircrew training also affected this school, thus since its inception, only 2 courses have been graduated with BHFC 3 just about to commence flying. The unit currently conducts local type-rating courses for its engineers and technicians.

320 Technical Training Group
The Nigerian Civil War resulted in the introduction of a variety of aircraft and associated weapon systems into the service of the then young NAF. The introduction of these weapon systems brought with it a corresponding increase in the need for skilled manpower to operate and maintain these machines. The NAF at that time relied on her foreign partners to develop the required manpower. The idea of establishing a NAF Logistics and Supply School was initiated after the Civil War in 1970, in order to increase the number of training slots and to conserve scarce foreign exchange. The Nigerian Air Force Technical Training Wing was thus established in 1977 with the collaboration of Messrs Dornier GMBH of Germany. The School was established to provide basic training for officers and men in the fields of aircraft maintenance, armament technology, supply and maintenance of ground communication equipment.
It was also the responsibility of the Group to conduct relevant up-grading courses for all logistics trade specialists in the NAF. The quality training offered by the schools has helped considerably in enhancing the NAF’s maintenance capabilities. The school has also trained a good number of personnel from the air forces of friendly sister African countries.

325 Ground Training Group
The 325 Ground Training Group started as Military Training School (MTS) under NAF Tactical Training Wing (NAFTTW) when the NAF Base Kaduna was established in 1963. It was responsible for the training of recruits. The MTS was re-designated Military Training Wing (MTW) in 1975 when NAFTTW was upgraded to become NAF Ground Training Group (NAFGTG). The Wing was later upgraded to a group status and called Military Training Group (MTG) in 1984. When a new establishment came into effect in 1991, the then Administrative Services Training Group (ASTG) was merged with MTG to form the Ground Training Group (GTG). With the Establishment Order of 2000, the Group was re-designated as 325 Ground Training Group.
Over the years the unit’s roles have widened to cover provision of non-technical training in other air force specialities, particularly with the suspension of overseas training for certain trade specialties for both officers and airmen. These include basic and further training in personnel and accounting specialities, air police, physical education and regiment courses.

330 NAF Station Jos
The NAF Station Jos was established to provide administrative and logistics support for the military schools namely, the Air Force Military School (AFMS) and the Air Force Girls Military School (AFGMS). Since inception, the AFMS and AFGMS have turned out 1,500 junior airmen and 588 junior airwomen respectively.
The AFGMS has since become a Comprehensive Secondary School following NAF’s decision to de-emphasise rigorous military training for girls.

333 Logistics Group
The 333 Logistic Group is responsible for 3rd and 4th line maintenance of aircraft used for flying training operations at 301 FTS and the 81 Air Maritime Group. The 4th line maintenance function of the Group also involves the conduct of the periodic engine overhaul on the DO128-6 and DO-228 aircraft. In addition to its maintenance task, the unit co-ordinates the local training programme for the NAF engineers and technicians on the aircraft types within its locality. It is noteworthy that the 333 Logistics Group recently commenced the reactivation of its equipment in readiness for Research and Development (R & D) projects. The R & D programme is intended to enable the unit to produce various aircraft components and spares. The Group worked assiduously in the joint NAF and Messrs Dornier-AEIP venture, to produce the first locally manufactured aircraft type in Nigeria, the Air Beetle ABT-18.

335 Base Services Group
The 335 BSG like its counterparts in TAC and LC is responsible for providing welfare and administrative support services for the various groups located in its vicinity. It also provides similar support to HQ TC, the Air Faculty of the Armed Forces Command and Staff College and the Air Wing of the Nigerian Defence Academy.

345 Aeromedical Hospital
The Aeromedical Hospital located in the Kaduna Base is the only one of its type in the NAF. The hospital was recently upgraded to the status of a 60-bed hospital. The upgrading is designed to enable the hospital meet the increasing demand for medical health care in the Kaduna Base and the NAF as a whole. This hospital also conducts annual medical fitness examinations for all aircrew specialties as well as routine medical examinations for NAF personnel right from the point of intake. It is expected that in the near future, the hospital will be fully equipped to the standard of a teaching and research hospital.

NAF Hospital Jos
The NAF Hospital, Jos provides health care services for NAF personnel and the 2 NAF secondary schools in Jos.

Aeromedical Centre Project
More than two decades ago, the NAF realized the need for a well-equipped medical facility to cater solely for the specialized medical demands of its aircrew. The objective is to enhance safety by ensuring that only medically fit personnel are allowed to fly. Consequently, efforts were made to establish an aeromedical centre. It is expected that on completion, the NAF Aeromedical Centre will be a centre of excellence with one of the most comprehensive facilities in the world. The facility is expected to reduce aircrew training cost compared with the cost of training personnel abroad. It will also reduce accident rates attributable to human factors. Besides, it will improve the selection process of potential pilots, while engineers and technicians will be exposed to new developments in the aviation industry. It is hoped that the Aeromedical Centre will also provide the same services to the civil aviation sector and conduct relevant research into peculiar problems associated with flying in tropical environments.


http://www.nigerianairforce.net/nafstructure/TC.aspx

[quote author=PatriotZAR][/quote]I will continue to let you hang yourself. The Gulma was built indigenously by our engineers with only the camera being a foreign component.

You are very funny, do you know how many pilots we have trained over the years ? Google is your friend to look up the NAF's training command, both fixed wing and helicopter training. You comedian

zaandrew: Do you guys not use them has sources when they suit you?

No we don't and neither do we use Premium Times, no matter how good a story.

Fighter Pilot: Gulma drone is not a killer drone and will never be. Drones use special kind of missiles which Nigeria does not have.

Nobody has said Gulma is a killer drone. Read previous posts before you display your continued ignorance. You SAs first said we can't produce a UAV, now it is missiles, then what next when you are all disproved?

You are nothing but desperate trolls. Concentrate on your parade ground SANDF.

PatriotZAR: ''The above should answer your question''
No, It didnot answer my question. All i need is a comparison, how hard can this be? Or why don't you just provide the full specifications of the drone instead.

''Give credit where it is due. The Gulma is not an armed UAV, as that will be the natural progression..''
The Gulma/Amebo doesn't deserve any kind of credit, rka1. It is a piece of crap! That's it!

''... Trying to ridicule won't get you any where as every country has to start from somewhere.''
Lol.. fellow compatriots, this is rka1's way of just saying the Gulma UAV is piece of crap that no one should brag about.

''15 pilots have been trained by nigerian instructors.''
Let go of the strawman arguments. I have never disputed that.

''Gulma was developed indigenously''
No it was developed indigenously. You had help from Cranfield University aerospace engineers. Without their help there wouldn't be any so called Gulma UAV.

You are just like a child throwing tantrums.

The NAF have a long standing collaboration with Cranfield University to train Nigerian Air Force engineers of various disciplines. This is not a secret. Aren't people in Denel foreign and foreign trained initially?

Calling it crap just shows your infantile delusions. It is not for me to make your comparisons, you do it yourself. Compare it with your UAV of similar specifications.

When the Amebo series were being tested, they were flown by UK pilots because the NAF didn't have trained UAV pilots at that time.

There would be a Gulma UAV without Cranfield because the NAF would have sent the engineers elsewhere for the skills just as you did in SA. Anything you produce now was from the help you received initially from outside sources.

We are on our way, whether you like it or not. Go and take a cold shower.

PatriotZAR: @Agaugust, Would you do me the honour of making comparisons of your latest british made Gulma UAV to our entirely locally produced Seeker 400 UAV? I cannot find much info on it other than... '' it is powered by 17hp engine... Operates via radio control on a micro pilot FCS avionics System... Maximum altitide of 10 000 feet... Endurance of 5.5hours'
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Does it have electro-optical/infrared imaging and radar like the Seeker 400? How about an electronic surveillance payload than can detect and locate radar emitters?

I will await your comparison. @Agaugust, Would you do me the honour of making comparisons of your latest british made Gulma UAV to our entirely locally produced Seeker 400 UAV? I cannot find much info on it other than... '' it is powered by 17hp engine... Operates via radio control on a micro pilot FCS avionics System... Maximum altitide of 10 000 feet... Endurance of 5.5hours'
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Does it have electro-optical/infrared imaging and radar like the Seeker 400? How about an electronic surveillance payload than can detect and locate radar emitters?

I will await your comparison. Lol...

http://www.badehaerospacecentre.com.ng/

The above should answer your question.

Give credit where it is due. The Gulma is not an armed UAV, as that will be the natural progression. Trying to ridicule won't get you anywhere as every country has to start from somewhere.

By the way, the 15 NAF UAV pilots have been trained by Nigerian instructors and the Gulma was developed indigenously.

Nigerian troops kill 13 Boko Haram gunmen

The Nigerian army, which has killed 13 gunmen in a shootout, has repeatedly accused Boko Haram of armed robbery to fund its four-year insurgency.

The Nigerian army says it has killed 13 suspected Boko Haram gunmen in a shootout near the border with Cameroon after an armed robbery at a currency exchange business.

"Our men succeeded in killing 13 suspected Boko Haram terrorists in a shootout near Digil village (in eastern Nigeria), where troops caught up with them after they robbed a bureau de change in Mubi," said Lieutenant Colonel Beyidi Martins, commander of a special army unit in Mubi.

Mubi, a town in Adamawa state, has been hit by a series of attacks blamed on Boko Haram, a radical Islamist group that has killed thousands of people since 2009.

According to traders who witnessed the latest attack, a gang of about 30 gunmen stormed the currency exchange at a local market in the city late Wednesday, killing five traders and carting away money in various currencies before their encounter with the army.

Troops caught up with the fleeing gunmen 25 kilometres away and engaged them in a shootout, killing 13 of them.

"We recovered rifles and stolen cash from the terrorists," Martins said.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/12/20/nigerian-troops-kill-13-boko-haram-gunmen


The Nigerian army has repeatedly accused Boko Haram of armed robbery to fund its four-year insurgency.

In October, around 40 students were killed in Mubi in raids on off-campus student accommodation blamed on Boko Haram.

The military has in the past three weeks imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew in the town after another armed robbery targeting the town's main market.

http://www.channelstv.com/home/2013/12/14/fighting-insecurity-nigerian-army-recruits-5890-soldiers/

Fighting Insecurity: Nigerian Army Recruits 5,890 Soldiers

Posted by: Channels Television Posted date: December 14, 2013 In: Current, Headlines | comment : 0 Comments


The military in Nigeria is insisting that it will continue to increase its mental and physical capacity, in order to effectively fight insecurity in the country.

In its bid to shore up its manpower, the Nigerian Army has injected 5,890 recruits into the force.

During their Passing Out Parade at the Nigerian Army Depot, Zaria, Kaduna State, the Chief of Army Staff, Lieutenant-General Azubuike Ihejirika, told the new soldiers that the Boko-Haram threat in the North-Eastern part of the country demands that the Armed Forces maintain a well-trained and disciplined force.

Lieutenant-General Azubuike Ihejirika said: “Nigerian Army’s mission to win all land battles, defend the territorial integrity of Nigeria, protect and advance her national interest as may be assigned in aid to civil authority, remains a task we must never fail to accomplish no matter the odds.

“Therefore, I urge you to remain selfless, disciplined, loyal and determined. As you are aware, the contemporary security challenges in our country demands that the army maintain a well-trained and disciplined force to provide appropriate response.

“Let me emphasise that our constitutional responsibilities demands that we defend the nation from external aggression, maintain its territorial integrity and secure the border from violation by land, sea and air.

“Remember that the military profession has no place for the weak and feeble minded. You must understand that the military service is all about sacrifice, honour, discipline, loyalty, perseverance and valour.

He further reminded the soildiers, “by the taking of oath of allegiance today, you are now subject to both civil and military laws. You must therefore avoid anything that has the propensity to tarnish your image, the army and the nation”,

Ihejirika also assured the new recruits of being exposed to further training in counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency operation.

5,890 is the highest number of soldiers to be trained at once, since the inception of the Nigerian ArmyDepot , Zaria in 1924.

JTF kills scores of Boko Haram members in Borno
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Sunday, 15 December 2013 00:00

MILITARY authorities in Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, has said that air bombardment of insurgents’ hideouts in Mainok and Mada general areas of Kaga and Konduga local government areas by the Nigerian Air Force has led to the death of some Boko Haram terrorists (number not known).

Spokesman of the 7 division of the Nigerian Army, Colonel Muhammadu Dole, in a statement made available to newsmen in Maiduguri on Saturday, revealed that the terrorists were seen conducting funeral for their dead members around Mudube village and were engaged, with several of them losing their lives.

In a related development, he said the troops of 7 Division also had an encounter with Boko Haram insurgents along Maiduguri-Bama-Gwoza road for two hours during which eight Boko Haram terrorists were killed, with 3 Vehicles and 3 AK 47 rifles burnt, while scores of others fled with various degrees of injuries.

He said due to increased offensive operations through the ground and air against the terrorists, the attacks resulted in serious decimation of Boko Haram fighters.

“This forced them to embark on forceful conscription of youths and abduction of women from vulnerable villages into their folds. The troops are on their trail to ensure safe release of these captives.” Col Dole said.

Meanwhile, the General Officer Commanding 7 Division of the Nigerian Army, Major General Obidah Ethan has reiterated that the Division is poised to decimating the Boko Haram terrorists wherever they were and continue to appreciate the continuous support and cooperation of the general public.

http://www.tribune.com.ng/news2013/index.php/en/news/lead-stories/item/28646-jtf-kills-scores-of-boko-haram-members-in-borno.html

Henry120: Bunch of hypocrites I tell u.

You don't know the half of it , I tell you. It is so glaring.

souldust: how do you know we are more corrupt than you guys, especially when you have never lived in Nigeria?

My point exactly. It's what they read online.

andrewza: BH is terrorizing the people they terrorists. Say a dog barks is not news worth. If BH built schools i will talk.

And what is the goverment doing to wipe out Ideology mm?


Does not need to happen, because either 2 things will occur. 1 they become a majority 2 the fighting goes on for years.

They are reaching out to the people and also trying to protect them. That is why the civilian JTF came into being. Remember, a lot of the fighters are foreign. More development cannot take place when BH keep destroying schools and trying to prevent major development projects going ahead.

They can never become the majority. Do you think majority of people want to live under their repressive brand of Islam?

agaugust: Britain is number one in that league

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My Brother, you should see the negative news about Nigeria from the BBC in particular and the press in general. They hardly, if at all, run anything positive. They are the first to report when there is a BH attack, but silent when it is the other way round or their usual "claims cannot be verified".

Can BH claims be verified? I tire o!

andrewza: We are corrupt, but not nearly has close has to the level of Nigeria. Murders yes, sectarian violence i far lower.

Why would the size of the population make people want it to fall? If Nigeria fails SA looses money from trad and waist FDI

Some people think the country is too populous and are afraid of what influence Nigeria will exert once it has fulfilled it's potential.

andrewza: The one on extremest. BH is a symptom of something very wrong in Nigeria. That some thing will not be fixed by killing people.

Yes we all so killed over 1000 of them for 15 deaths.

You didn't say that when BH were killing civilians. Now, when they are killed, it is "something will not be fixed by killing people".

Until the ideology is wiped out, the military has no choice but to kill as many as they can.

The problem that you are trying to identify is a minority trying to exert their unwanted influence on the majority of law abiding citizens. That, my friend, will never happen.

andrewza: Think

all you need to do is Google Nigeria, go to news of the last 24 hours. Something will come up.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/islamic-extremist-leader-boasts-nigerian-attack-21189591
boasting of attack

http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Nigeria-ignores-sectarian-violence-HRW-20131212
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/12/12/world/africa/nigeria-rights-report/
the fact that central Nigeria is just has messed up has the north

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2013/12/13/50bn-fraud-govt-audits-nnpc-account/
And corruption on a epic scale

So what? I can also google any country. Are you saying SA isn't corrupt and no murders going on everyday? Nigeria is Africa's most populous nation and a lot of people are hoping for the downfall of the country and can't wait to post negative news all the time.

There are a lot of good things happening, but it doesn't sell papers, does it?

You can continue to ingratiate yourself on the news online, but it won't change the daily lives of Nigerians.

andrewza: Who cares, the fact that BH is still around is a fact you loosing the war.

You have no idea what you are saying. Which war are we losing? Of course they are still around, it is an insurgency. They don't have uniforms on 24/7 like Seleka rebels, who you ran away from and lost.

agaugust: [size=16pt]south africans wont see this one now o ! [/size]



the day one nigerian soldier is killed by boko haram, the SA mofos will post 20 comments on nairaland.

only in pretoria have i heard buffoons saying that the army that pursues the enemy running away and kills them in ratio 10:1, is losing the war.

anyway, south africa is a nation where schizophrenic madmen stand beside world president s to work, so what do we expect from them ?

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Don't mind them. They will return to hibernation until they think they have something negative to post. Like I have said, they should tackle their own problems first. Remove the plank from their eyes first

Where are the Usual suspects?

BLOODY FRIDAY: 25 killed in Boko Haram, military clash in Borno

VANGUARD

No fewer than 25 people suspected to be members of Boko Haram terrorists have been killed Friday in a clash with troops of the 7 Division, Nigerian Army at Ngauramari villages of Bama Local Government Area of Borno state.

Ngauramari is a small farming community along the Maiduguri- Bama – Firgi-Gwoza federal highway which had witnessed series of attacks and killing of over 20 motorists and passengers this week by suspected Book Haram sects.

Our Correspondent gathered that the incident took place at about 8am on Thursday when some terrorists group who were trying to cross the road from their camps/hideouts in the Sambisa Forest clashed with military troops which led to the exchange of gunfire, a situation that led to the death of three terrorists at the spot, subsequently, those who fled through the riverine areas were later killed by Ariel bombardment/airstrikes.

Sources said, during the encounter with the military troops, all roads leading to the area were closed for over three hours in order to avoid civilian casualties, particularly motorists and their passengers who were plying the road as at the time of the airstrikes.

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CraigB: Oooooold tired argument. The video is fake? Sure! Says who?

Talk to me when your Army returns to CAR - cowards.

When will you learn, the video is fake and you trying to be a gadfly is pathetic. Face your country's problems. The video will be proved to be made up yet again as it always is with badly edited clips, old footage etc.

Get a life. No other army in Africa can achieve anything close to what the NA has achieved and continue to achieve. Like it or lump it.

I see I have not missed much.

CraigB: Time for brunch.

Now, listen poppies - I will keep the loser military of Naai-geria in my thoughts, ok?

Hop along now. Make sure your bitterness doesn't make you choke

CraigB: You mean ten years from now?

Well, you're all already eating humble pie.

You're in hell.

SELEKA REBELS certainly put your boys in Hell. They obviously thought they were the French. Humble pie indeed.

CraigB: The take it like you give it and be happy.

No need for long stories and crying.

Enjoy your kak - happily dished out for you to eat. Don't try to act as though CraigB hasn't learnt from the worst.

Glad we agree.

Only problem - you spoke too soon. You're in Boko haram hell and there's nothing you can do about it.

It will be great to see you eat humble pie. Make sure you are around and don't go AWOL like SANDF.

CraigB: Nigerian refugees in Chad, Niger, Cameroon

November 21, 2013 • By Our Reporter
A recent study carried out by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) revealed that no fewer than 36, 000 people have fled their homes in the North-eastern Nigerian states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa to seek refuge in neighbouring nations, on account of the Boko Haram insurgency.

Incidentally, these three countries into which the fleeing Nigerians have flocked, have over the years had many of their citizens seeking refuge and better lives in Nigeria.


It is disheartening that Nigerians now have to resort to seeking asylum in less endowed countries like Cameroun, Chad and Niger. This is more so because, out of about 1,800 refugees in Nigeria as at the end of last month, 865 were Cameroonians. Until now, Nigeria had provided a safe haven for refugees from other African countries, notably Liberia, Sierra Leone, Mali, Chad, Niger, Sudan, Cote d’Ivoire and Congo. Our porous borders have made it easy for those fleeing from unemployment, hunger and starvation in neighbouring countries to cross into Nigeria without any form of documentation. All these are outside the fact that Nigeria had to formally integrate over 1,200 of the last batch of Liberian refugees into the local Nigerian com,munities they were resident, while about 1,700 of them opted to return to Liberia.


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/editorial/nigerian-refugees-chad-niger-cameroon/

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Ayayay - what a disaster.

This is what happens when you talk too much - without any real foundation to back up your loudness.

You are taught humility.

You are truly a class act aren't you. Just because people rightly pointed out that SANDF fled SELEKA rebels it has been eating away at you. If SANDF had returned and done the deed, they would have been hailed for it. But they didn't and it has now been listed as a failure for the SANDF. Eat it and stop throwing tantrums like spoilt child.

CraigB: How the Naai-gerian refugees wish that their hapless military could help then get a life. Now, they are wanderers in nations the self-aggrandising Naai-gerians have previously ridiculed.

CameroonPride has to deal with your hungry refugees because your army doesn't know what it's doing.

If you had any common sense, you would know that people are displaced in an insurgency. So were refugees coming to Nigeria from Chad during their troubles as were SLs, Liberians etc.

So you want to laugh at displaced people because you want to get your own back on Nigerians?

CraigB: While they are here talking to is about equipment - trying to impress:

Suffer the children.

Nigeria offensive drives 40,000 refugees into Niger: U.N.


NIAMEY (Reuters) - Nigeria's army offensive against Islamist militants has pushed nearly 40,000 refugees over its northern border into Niger, a U.N. agency said, in a drive that is straining food supplies in the drought-prone country.

The United Nations estimated in June there were 6,000 refugees from Nigeria but the figure has soared as President Goodluck Jonathan has stepped up attacks on Boko Haram militants.

The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said in its latest monthly report that of a total 37,332 refugees, nearly 29,000 are officially Niger nationals and the rest are Nigerian.

"These figures, three times above the level the humanitarian workers were planning for, give an indication of the difficulties of developing a humanitarian response," it said.

Boko Haram is seen as the biggest risk to stability in Nigeria, Africa's most populous country and top oil producer, which shares a 1,500 kilometer border with its landlocked northern neighbor Niger along the edge of the Sahara Desert.

The United States formally designated Boko Haram and splinter group Ansaru as terrorist organizations on Wednesday.

OCHA said the refugees in Niger were spread over 20 different areas in the semi-desert southern province of Diffa and that they were living mostly with local hosts.

A spokesman for the government in Niger declined to comment. A Nigerian defense spokesman said he had no information about refugees crossing the border. Nigerian emergency service officials were not available for comment.

The rising number of refugees in Niger is expected to put further strain on food supplies after a disappointing harvest.

According to an October report by FEWS NET, a USAID-funded famine network, 1.2 million people in Niger will be in a situation of acute food insecurity from January 2014.

Thousands of refugees have also spilled into Cameroon, prompting Nigeria to reach out for help in policing their shared border.

The United Nations has called on neighboring countries to keep their borders open and has urged Niger to grant refugee status to the Nigerian nationals in the Diffa region.

(Reporting by Abdoulaye Massalatchi; Additional reporting by Tim Cocks; Writing by Emma Farge; Editing by Gareth Jones)

And? Get a life.

Fighter Pilot: South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/

Just because they are built by Denel doesn't automatically mean SANDF are equipped with them. Show how many are in service with SANDF and stop showing Denel weapons. We know they manufacture.

CraigB: My point - Proven beyond any shadow of a doubt. Your many words have become shorter and emptier.

The truth does that to a person.

Don't tell me, it is factually based.