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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 7:27pm On Dec 08, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/

south africa manufactures artillery guns but has only 120 units.

nigeria does not manufacture artillery guns but has 660 units.

how many times will i school you that manufacturing does not mean your military has all those weapons paid for and in service kept in your armoury ? dont be a dunce that has to repeat the same class every year grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 7:27pm On Dec 08, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/

Just because they are built by Denel doesn't automatically mean SANDF are equipped with them. Show how many are in service with SANDF and stop showing Denel weapons. We know they manufacture.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 7:29pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB: While they are here talking to is about equipment - trying to impress:

Suffer the children.

Nigeria offensive drives 40,000 refugees into Niger: U.N.


NIAMEY (Reuters) - Nigeria's army offensive against Islamist militants has pushed nearly 40,000 refugees over its northern border into Niger, a U.N. agency said, in a drive that is straining food supplies in the drought-prone country.

The United Nations estimated in June there were 6,000 refugees from Nigeria but the figure has soared as President Goodluck Jonathan has stepped up attacks on Boko Haram militants.

The U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) said in its latest monthly report that of a total 37,332 refugees, nearly 29,000 are officially Niger nationals and the rest are Nigerian.

"These figures, three times above the level the humanitarian workers were planning for, give an indication of the difficulties of developing a humanitarian response," it said.

Boko Haram is seen as the biggest risk to stability in Nigeria, Africa's most populous country and top oil producer, which shares a 1,500 kilometer border with its landlocked northern neighbor Niger along the edge of the Sahara Desert.

The United States formally designated Boko Haram and splinter group Ansaru as terrorist organizations on Wednesday.

OCHA said the refugees in Niger were spread over 20 different areas in the semi-desert southern province of Diffa and that they were living mostly with local hosts.

A spokesman for the government in Niger declined to comment. A Nigerian defense spokesman said he had no information about refugees crossing the border. Nigerian emergency service officials were not available for comment.

The rising number of refugees in Niger is expected to put further strain on food supplies after a disappointing harvest.

According to an October report by FEWS NET, a USAID-funded famine network, 1.2 million people in Niger will be in a situation of acute food insecurity from January 2014.

Thousands of refugees have also spilled into Cameroon, prompting Nigeria to reach out for help in policing their shared border.

The United Nations has called on neighboring countries to keep their borders open and has urged Niger to grant refugee status to the Nigerian nationals in the Diffa region.

(Reporting by Abdoulaye Massalatchi; Additional reporting by Tim Cocks; Writing by Emma Farge; Editing by Gareth Jones)



And? Get a life.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:32pm On Dec 08, 2013
rka1:

And? Get a life.

How the Naai-gerian refugees wish that their hapless military could help then get a life. Now, they are wanderers in nations the self-aggrandising Naai-gerians have previously ridiculed.

CameroonPride has to deal with your hungry refugees because your army doesn't know what it's doing. cry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nigeria27: 7:34pm On Dec 08, 2013
is there still alot of racial hate in south africa ?

is the red october making any noise ?

is there a chance of the red october getting violent ?

just a few questions to all the south africans
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 7:38pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB:

How the Naai-gerian refugees wish that their hapless military could help then get a life. Now, they are wanderers in nations the self-aggrandising Naai-gerians have previously ridiculed.

CameroonPride has to deal with your hungry refugees because your army doesn't know what it's doing. cry

If you had any common sense, you would know that people are displaced in an insurgency. So were refugees coming to Nigeria from Chad during their troubles as were SLs, Liberians etc.

So you want to laugh at displaced people because you want to get your own back on Nigerians?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:39pm On Dec 08, 2013
Nigerian refugees in Chad, Niger, Cameroon

November 21, 2013 • By Our Reporter
A recent study carried out by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) revealed that no fewer than 36, 000 people have fled their homes in the North-eastern Nigerian states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa to seek refuge in neighbouring nations, on account of the Boko Haram insurgency.

Incidentally, these three countries into which the fleeing Nigerians have flocked, have over the years had many of their citizens seeking refuge and better lives in Nigeria.


It is disheartening that Nigerians now have to resort to seeking asylum in less endowed countries like Cameroun, Chad and Niger. This is more so because, out of about 1,800 refugees in Nigeria as at the end of last month, 865 were Cameroonians. Until now, Nigeria had provided a safe haven for refugees from other African countries, notably Liberia, Sierra Leone, Mali, Chad, Niger, Sudan, Cote d’Ivoire and Congo. Our porous borders have made it easy for those fleeing from unemployment, hunger and starvation in neighbouring countries to cross into Nigeria without any form of documentation. All these are outside the fact that Nigeria had to formally integrate over 1,200 of the last batch of Liberian refugees into the local Nigerian com,munities they were resident, while about 1,700 of them opted to return to Liberia.


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/editorial/nigerian-refugees-chad-niger-cameroon/

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Ayayay - what a disaster.

This is what happens when you talk too much - without any real foundation to back up your loudness.

You are taught humility. cry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by HezronLorraine(m): 7:41pm On Dec 08, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/
Okay.Agreeable.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 7:44pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB: Nigerian refugees in Chad, Niger, Cameroon

November 21, 2013 • By Our Reporter
A recent study carried out by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) revealed that no fewer than 36, 000 people have fled their homes in the North-eastern Nigerian states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa to seek refuge in neighbouring nations, on account of the Boko Haram insurgency.

Incidentally, these three countries into which the fleeing Nigerians have flocked, have over the years had many of their citizens seeking refuge and better lives in Nigeria.


It is disheartening that Nigerians now have to resort to seeking asylum in less endowed countries like Cameroun, Chad and Niger. This is more so because, out of about 1,800 refugees in Nigeria as at the end of last month, 865 were Cameroonians. Until now, Nigeria had provided a safe haven for refugees from other African countries, notably Liberia, Sierra Leone, Mali, Chad, Niger, Sudan, Cote d’Ivoire and Congo. Our porous borders have made it easy for those fleeing from unemployment, hunger and starvation in neighbouring countries to cross into Nigeria without any form of documentation. All these are outside the fact that Nigeria had to formally integrate over 1,200 of the last batch of Liberian refugees into the local Nigerian com,munities they were resident, while about 1,700 of them opted to return to Liberia.


http://sunnewsonline.com/new/editorial/nigerian-refugees-chad-niger-cameroon/

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Ayayay - what a disaster.

This is what happens when you talk too much - without any real foundation to back up your loudness.

You are taught humility. cry





You are truly a class act aren't you. Just because people rightly pointed out that SANDF fled SELEKA rebels it has been eating away at you. If SANDF had returned and done the deed, they would have been hailed for it. But they didn't and it has now been listed as a failure for the SANDF. Eat it and stop throwing tantrums like spoilt child.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:45pm On Dec 08, 2013
rka1:

If you had any common sense, you would know that people are displaced in an insurgency. So were refugees coming to Nigeria from Chad during their troubles as were SLs, Liberians etc.

So you want to laugh at displaced people because you want to get your own back on Nigerians?

Spare me.

It was fun when our 13 soldiers that died in the CAR were being laughed at.

Typical Naai-gerians. They try to play the victims when the tide turns. If you all ahead been mature and grown up in the early days of this thread, you'd be getting support and understanding.

But because of your brashness and lack of thinking - your own venom gets turned against you. Easily at that, because you're useless about most things.

Number one on the list: you've failed your own people. They've become hungry wanderers. Beggars that are a burden on the region.

What happened to your claims that you stabilise the region?

You're busy destabilising and straining it now.

Dumping hungry mouths on poor nations. cry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by HezronLorraine(m): 7:46pm On Dec 08, 2013
agaugust:

very sure, our submarines and mini aircraft carrier/LPD should have arrived by that 2018. we already have one of the world's top 10 largest navies in terms of number of vessels, and nigeria has the biggest navy in africa now based on vessels number.

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So right.Pirates even though still operate like locusts on our waters but they know what the wrath of a single NN speedboat will do to them when caught.Pirates now operate at their perils.Long live NN.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:46pm On Dec 08, 2013
rka1:

You are truly a class act aren't you. Just because people rightly pointed out that SANDF fled SELEKA rebels it has been eating away at you. If SANDF had returned and done the deed, they would have been hailed for it. But they didn't and it has now been listed as a failure for the SANDF. Eat it and stop throwing tantrums like spoilt child.

The take it like you give it and be happy.

No need for long stories and crying.

Enjoy your kak - happily dished out for you to eat. Don't try to act as though CraigB hasn't learnt from the worst.

Glad we agree.

Only problem - you spoke too soon. You're in Boko haram hell and there's nothing you can do about it.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 7:56pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB:

The take it like you give it and be happy.

No need for long stories and crying.

Enjoy your kak - happily dished out for you to eat. Don't try to act as though CraigB hasn't learnt from the worst.

Glad we agree.

Only problem - you spoke too soon. You're in Boko haram hell and there's nothing you can do about it.

It will be great to see you eat humble pie. Make sure you are around and don't go AWOL like SANDF.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 7:58pm On Dec 08, 2013
rka1:

It will be great to see you eat humble pie. Make sure you are around and don't go AWOL like SANDF.

You mean ten years from now?

Well, you're all already eating humble pie.

You're in hell.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 8:00pm On Dec 08, 2013
Time for brunch.

Now, listen poppies - I will keep the loser military of Naai-geria in my thoughts, ok?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 8:04pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB:

You mean ten years from now?

Well, you're all already eating humble pie.

You're in hell.

SELEKA REBELS certainly put your boys in Hell. They obviously thought they were the French. Humble pie indeed. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by rka1: 8:05pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB: Time for brunch.

Now, listen poppies - I will keep the loser military of Naai-geria in my thoughts, ok?

Hop along now. Make sure your bitterness doesn't make you choke grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:41pm On Dec 08, 2013
Fighter Pilot:

South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/

America is the largest UAV drone manufacturer in the world dude, and Israel is second position after America.

http://www.rferl.org/content/drones_who_makes_them_and_who_has_them/24469168.html

America has 7,000 UAV/drones and your weblink does not say anywhere that south africa is biggest manufacturer of drones/UAV....419 man grin

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 8:42pm On Dec 08, 2013
agaugust:

very sure, our submarines and mini aircraft carrier/LPD should have arrived by that 2018. we already have one of the world's top 10 largest navies in terms of number of vessels, and nigeria has the biggest navy in africa now based on vessels number.

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For Real? ? Are we expecting SubMarines an (Mini) Carriers? That will be a Joy to behold for sure
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 8:43pm On Dec 08, 2013
fydence: For Real? ? Are we expecting SubMarines an (Mini) Carriers? That will be a Joy to behold for sure

yes, 3 submarines and 2 LPD/mini aircraft carriers for nigerian navy by 2018.

here's the post done months ago here....i must warn you o! south africans hate this page 280 navy posts below.... grin

https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/280

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 9:10pm On Dec 08, 2013
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Fighter Pilot:

South Africa is the biggest manufacturer of UAV's, they even sell them and if you want to add more to your just only 12 UAV's, you can put your order. Judge for yourself.

http://www.deneldynamics.co.za/


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[size=16pt]american UAV drones to be imported to save south africa from rhino poachers[/size]

failure of south african air force to stop ordinary rhino poachers as their SAAF helicopters begin to crash at home chasing poachers in the bush grin


bush meat wan begin dey catch the hunter grin
hunter run go america go beg for help grin


QUOTE :


"Around 400 rhinos have been killed this year in the world-famous Kruger national park, which spans 2m hectares – impossible for a limited number of rangers to guard effectively. this year 2013 is worst year on record for rhino poaching in south africa.

And in this day and age, that means one thing: a proposed 30 Arcturus T-20 drones purchase from America"


SOURCE : http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/a-south-african-rhino-farmer-is-buying-US-drones-to-fight-poachers




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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by fydence: 9:18pm On Dec 08, 2013
agaugust:

yes, 3 submarines and 2 LPD/mini aircraft carriers for nigerian navy by 2018.

here's the post done months ago here....i must warn you o! south africans hate this page 280 navy posts below.... grin

https://www.nairaland.com/415620/strongest-military-africa/280

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lol..the warning is duly noted sir. With ur vast experience you must have learnt that the only thing South Africans are good at being positive, is their HIV Status. So its ok for them to be negative abt anything Nigerian and to hate ...Back to ur post sir, It is very clear the NN isnt joking abt acquistions... Thank u for this info sir.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 9:19pm On Dec 08, 2013
agaugust:
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[size=16pt]american UAV drones to be imported to save south africa from rhino poachers[/size]

failure of south african air force to stop ordinary rhino poachers as their SAAF helicopters begin to crash at home chasing poachers in the bush grin


bush meat wan begin dey catch the hunter grin
hunter run go america go beg for help grin


SOURCE : http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/a-south-african-rhino-farmer-is-buying-US-drones-to-fight-poachers


"Around 400 rhinos have been killed this year in the world-famous Kruger national park, which spans 2m hectares – impossible for a limited number of rangers to guard effectively. this year 2013 is worst year on record for rhino poaching in south africa.

And in this day and age, that means one thing: a proposed 30 Arcturus T-20 drones purchase from America"



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Don't mind fighter pilot. As if denel builds weapons to dash SANDF.

NAF develops it's own drone for use while SANDF helplessly waits for Pretoria to pay denel for even one drone. grin
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:29pm On Dec 08, 2013
chris365:

Don't mind fighter pilot. As if denel builds weapons to dash SANDF.

NAF develops it's own drone for use while SANDF helplessly waits for Pretoria to pay denel for even one drone. grin

If you don't know - ask.

DENEL's primary duty is to supply arms to the SANDF. It's government owned. It sells only because South Africa isn't at war. Unlike, Naai-geria. cry
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http://www.denel.co.za/profile.html


"Denel SOC is the largest manufacturer of defence equipment in South Africa and operates in the military aerospace and landward defence environment. Incorporated as a private company in 1992 in terms of the South African Companies Act (No 62 of 1973), Denel’s sole shareholder is the South African Government.


The Minister for Public Enterprises appoints an independent Board of Directors that oversees the executive management team which is responsible for the day-to-day management of the company.

Key Domestic Supplier

Denel is an important defence contractor in its domestic market and a key supplier to the South African National Defence Force (SANDF), both as original equipment manufacturer (OEM) and for the overhaul, maintenance, repair, refurbishment and upgrade of equipment in the SANDF’s arsenal.

Reputable International Supplier

Over the years Denel has built a reputation as a reliable supplier to its many international clients. It supplies systems and consumables to end users as well as sub-systems and components to its industrial client base. Denel also has a number of equity partnerships, joint ventures and cooperation agreements with renowned international players in the defence industry.

Denel’s Strategy
Framework for Denel’s Strategic Drivers"
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:33pm On Dec 08, 2013
rka1:

SELEKA REBELS certainly put your boys in Hell. They obviously thought they were the French. Humble pie indeed. grin

How so? The last time I checked, we killed hundreds?

And, the last time I checked, we went on to shine in the DRC. We continue to.

Where's Naai-geria? Oh, those losers? They abandoned their missions in Mali and Darfur, leaving their equipment behind.

They are now in the Boko Haram sweatshop, disgracing Africa and churning out refugees. A six-month walk in the park has become a civil war. Not about to end anytime soon.

Rubbish military.

Seeing as this is now a civil war situation, the OAU should request organised nations on the African continent to go and save Naai-geria from itself.

Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:47pm On Dec 08, 2013
Naai-gerians die in the Sahara, thanks to the refugee situation.

The rubbish military of Naai-geria has failed its people.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRdcjUDe7w
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nigeria27: 11:55pm On Dec 08, 2013
CraigB: Naai-gerians die in the Sahara, thanks to the refugee situation.

The rubbish military of Naai-geria has failed its people.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRdcjUDe7w

what the Bleep is wrong with you why would you post a video of a person dieing you are honestly just an idiot you make all south africans look bad
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 11:56pm On Dec 08, 2013
Nigeria27:

what the Bleep is wrong with you why would you post a video of a person dieing you are honestly just an idiot you make all south africans look bad

Take it up with your army.

They're the ones churning out refugees.

They were asked to save Naai-geria, but they are burning Naai-geria.

Oh! Every South African has a mind of his own and can speak freely and as an individual.

You wouldn't know anything about that, seeing as you murder your journalists.

(I learnt from the best, by the way).
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by chris365(m): 12:16am On Dec 09, 2013
CraigB:

If you don't know - ask.

DENEL's primary duty is to supply arms to the SANDF. It's government owned. It sells only because South Africa isn't at war. Unlike, Naai-geria. cry
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http://www.denel.co.za/profile.html


"Denel SOC is the largest manufacturer of defence equipment in South Africa and operates in the military aerospace and landward defence environment. Incorporated as a private company in 1992 in terms of the South African Companies Act (No 62 of 1973), Denel’s sole shareholder is the South African Government.


The Minister for Public Enterprises appoints an independent Board of Directors that oversees the executive management team which is responsible for the day-to-day management of the company.

Key Domestic Supplier

Denel is an important defence contractor in its domestic market and a key supplier to the South African National Defence Force (SANDF), both as original equipment manufacturer (OEM) and for the overhaul, maintenance, repair, refurbishment and upgrade of equipment in the SANDF’s arsenal.

Reputable International Supplier

Over the years Denel has built a reputation as a reliable supplier to its many international clients. It supplies systems and consumables to end users as well as sub-systems and components to its industrial client base. Denel also has a number of equity partnerships, joint ventures and cooperation agreements with renowned international players in the defence industry.

Denel’s Strategy
Framework for Denel’s Strategic Drivers"

Mr man if I wanted denels profile I know How to get it. So don't paste long cut and paste story for me if your head is too empty to say anything.

Just cos it's state owned doesn't mean they just throw whatever they develop at the military free of charge. No defence industry can survive that way.

Denel builds drones doesn't mean SANDF packs them. Your government has to pay for it. Simple
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by CraigB: 12:19am On Dec 09, 2013
chris365:

Mr man if I wanted denels profile I know How to get it. [s]So don't paste long cut and paste story for me if your head is too empty say anything.

Just cos it's state owned doesn't mean they just throw whatever they develop at the military free of charge. No defence industry can survive that way.

Denel builds drones doesn't mean SANDF packs them. Your government has to pay for it. Simple[/s]


Wanting it is one thing. Needing it is quite another.

You clearly need it because you have no clue what you are talking about.

Listen to you!

Tax monies buy Denel equipment. Denel's profits and retained earnings go back into the tax-payer's fiscus. Transfer pricing. That's it. There's a sole shareholder. The government.

When SANDF decides it wants those drones, Denel MUST supply them. Simple.

You need the profile. But most importantly, you need a brain. You are talking kak about that which you know nothing about. What does Naai-geria know about defence industries anyway?

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"Denel SOC Ltd is a South African state owned aerospace and defence technology conglomerate established in 1991. It was created when the manufacturing subsidiaries of Armscor were split off in order for Armscor to become the procurement agency for South African Defence Force (SADF), now known as the South African National Defence Force (SANDF), and the manufacturing divisions were grouped together under Denel as divisions.
Denel was established as a state-owned industrial company under the Ministry of Public Enterprises in April 1992. It inherited most of Armscor's production and research facilities, and over 15 000 employees. At the time of its formation, Denel restructured and reorganised the former Armscor subsidiaries into a number of divisions and subsidiaries within five industrial groups: systems, manufacturing, aerospace, informatics, and properties and engineering services."
- For our resident idîot. cry
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nigeria27: 12:28am On Dec 09, 2013
CraigB:

Take it up with your army.

They're the ones churning out refugees.

They were asked to save Naai-geria, but they are burning Naai-geria.

Oh! Every South African has a mind of his own and can speak freely and as an individual.

You wouldn't know anything about that, seeing as you murder your journalists.

(I learnt from the best, by the way).

every conflict creates refugees but clearly your too stupid to realize this are you telling me that south african and the rest of the un failed the refugees that were created because of the conflict ? you are honestly just an idiot

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