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Mike..ZA:
This makes me sad. You even don't know that the Grifo-7 is a French radar not Italian. That's why you don't know its range. The A-Darter is not a radar BVR missile,it is 5th generation infrared missile. Able to make 100g turns,it can strike warplanes and AAM behind the host craft...A project to acquire munitions for the Gripens has been ongoing for some time,it was hampered by the A-darter development. Now that the A-darter is getting into service this year. A new BVR missile will be acquired likely the meteor missile,while development of the Marlin missile will going. Just wait until we purchase heavy lift and air refuel planes Naija will be withing SAAF's striking range.

It is you and the misguided person who liked you I feel sorry for. The Grifo-7 is an Italian radar, not French.

http://babriet.tripod.com/airforce/stat/statgrifo.htm

It is you who doesn't understand the capabilities of the PL-9 hence your ignorance, Mr Hollywood.

And by the way, I didn't say the A-Darter is a radar guided missile (not that I care), but that your Gripen would have to get a lot closer in order to engage the F-7 which also has an infrared missile, olodo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-9

Please read the links this time and stop fantasising.

Mike..ZA:
Dude you're a comedian. Those other jet have canards to enable them to make tight turns. Besides your Nigerian F-7 have a radar that covers around 15km-20km. Now here's a little scenario that would play out if the F-7 was to meet the advanced: The Gripen detects a enemy craft at round 115km. The pilot will weigh his options whether to engage or not and other stuff like does the plane still have enough fuel for the dogfight. Then if decides to engage: At high speed enemy craft on radar screen he blasts into the F-7's 15km-20km radar covered area. The F-7 will detect an incoming enemy plane,from there the pilot will drop his tanks(Thee F-7 carries three fuel tanks in superiority roles+2 missiles) and try get a lock on the enemy. By the time he does this the Gripen will be within visual range and firing its first missile causing your pilot to take his plane into evasive manoeuvres against a 5th generation missile coupled with the Cobra HMD with no luck the F-7 will be shot down!...This scenario will play on and on........Regarding the A-Darter it is scheduled to enter service this year. I'm sure training missiles are now delivered we are just awaiting SAAF to publicly reveal it maybe in the April-May air force demonstration. TOTAL AIR SUPERIORITY OVER NIGERIA.

You are the comedian, the F7s radar has longer tracking capabilities than you stated;

Heavily modernized aircraft with some basic 4th generation technology.
Armament includes advanced 42 km range Italian Grifo-7 radar with ECM, sophisticated 22 km range PL-9C air to air missiles, bombs, and air to ground rockets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force

Your Gripen still has to get close and personal in order to be effective and no use saying that a BVR missile will be operational this year and it can't be included until it is active. Nigeria is expecting a lot of arms this year and we aren't using them in current scenarios.

As for your other posts, usual Hollywood fantasy stuff.

Break down of some purchases for 2014;

..Govt to spend billions on weapons
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Category: News Published on Monday, 23 December 2013 05:00 Written by Turaki A. Hassan Hits: 818

The Federal Government has allocated billions of naira in the 2014 budget for the procurement of weapons and security-related equipments for the various security agencies, an analysis of the budget has shown.

Details of the 2014 appropriation bill obtained by Daily Trust indicate that the government intends to purchase different calibre of arms, ammunitions, GSM tracking devices, anti-bomb equipments, armoured personnel carriers, anti-riot equipments, bullet proof vests, ballistic helmets and other related gadgets for security agencies next year.
According to the details of the N4.91trillion budget, the Nigerian Army will procure ammunition worth N697.7 million, while the army engineering corps will be commissioned to produce Armoured Personnel Carriers (APC) for the army at the cost of N100 million.
For the Navy, the government will acquire two offshore patrol vessels worth N5.2 billion while ship spare parts will gulp N2.7 billion.
The Nigerian Air Force is allocated the sum of N286.4 million for the procurement of MI-34/35 helicopters, N1.8 billion for the purchase of six MI-35M helicopters, N1.5 billion for the maintenance of Alpha jets, while the quick response force will purchase equipment worth N301 million.
In the same vein, the Air Force will renovate its arctic L-39ZA AC for N1.3 billion and maintain the super puma for N324.5 million.
The Defence Industries Corporation Kaduna is allocated N300 million for the procurement and installation of 7.62 by 39m production line, another N150 million for the procurement of raw materials for the operation of the 7.62 by 39M new production line.
The office of the National Security Adviser will conduct a security programme for N5.1 billion in 2014, purchase security equipments worth N837.3 million, N2 billion will go for its emergency response centre, N1.2 billion will be spend by the NSA on NICEP II security elevation phase II and N11 billion for the purchase of enhanced and specialized security gadgets.
The Directorate of State Service (DSS) has a security vote of N3.3 billion; N2.89 billion will be use to buy security equipment, N425.6 for the procurement of Polaris mass location and wireless tracking system, strontium sky digit recovery system for N359 million, mobile hammers N412 million, GSM intercept will gulp N359 million.
Also, the DSS intend to procure fire arms worth N350 million, disaster recovery centre construction will cost N200 million, building of five detention centres at the six geo-political zones will cost N150 million and V-sat software purchase will gulp N50 million.
The Nigerian Intelligence Agency has a total budget of N36.9 billion of which N3.9 billion will go for enhanced field communication, while secure email encryption infrastructure will cost N1.6 billion.
The Nigeria Police formation and commands will procure BMW operation vehicles for N112.7 million, Armoured land cruiser vehicles for GSM tracking N107.8 million, patrol vehicles N202.6 million, specialized operational vehicles N222.6 million, arms and ammunition N277.9 million riot control equipments worth N193.9 million, and ballistic helmets and bullet proof vests for N297.5 million.
Similarly, the police will also purchase DNA equipments for N68.6 million, explosive ordinance disposal for N163.7 million, security intelligence for N144.1 million, GSM tracking for N167.7, million and communication equipment for N183 million among others.
The Defence Intelligence Agency is allocated N7.4 billion, Defence Intelligence school got N363 million while the Command and Staff College Jaji got N3.2 billion, National Defence College got N6.9 billion, Nigerian Defence Academy got N8 billion, Nigerian airforce got N73.302 billion, Nigerian Navy got N70.2 billion, Ministry of Defence got N23.2 billion while the Defence Headquarters got N1.8 billion.

http://dailytrust.info/index.php/news/12849-govt-to-spend-billions-on-weapons

Fighter Pilot: F-7 Ni is just like Innoson, there is no where you can class it. Both have been made from cheap parts which wear easily.

As opposed to overpriced western parts?

Fighter Pilot: Chinese products are affectionately called Fong Kong in SA and we know well that they are being patronised by the likes of you. My friend Chinese have a tendency of taking Africans for granted and when they see us they perceive us as block heads who cannot think of anything that involves technology but war.

Continue to under-estimate at your own peril. It is better than western products that come with strings attached and virtually no technological transfers whatsoever (they want you to remain backward while they sell over priced products).

Who then is the blockhead?

Fighter Pilot: F-7 Nigeria are low cost fighter jets, they are meant to meet Nigeria half way and currently they are written danger everywhere with a capital letter D "". No Nigerian pilot would ever risk his life flying such moving graves.

Don't undermine swedish, they are a small nation which is very dedicated when producing their products. They make sure by all means that they produce the best.

You obviously don't know that Nigerian F-7ni pilots have been thrilling the residents of Makurdi for a few months now at NAF TAC.

I take it that other countries are not dedicated to producing their products then?

Chinese arms are getting better and better as the years go by. Keep paying over inflated prices for western products (in order to pay inflated wages)which also come with many technical problems from being over elaborate and ambitious.

chris365: Leave the boy make he dey talk nonsense.

Turkey recently decided to buy Chinese missile interceptors. While overlooking the overrated US patriot missile defense.

Europe and the west recently raised concerns over China's ship building capabilities.

Na ignorance go kill these guys I swear.

Make u no mind the fantasist jare! Na Hollywood or bust for am.

Mike..ZA:
What stadiums are used for concerts,rugby and other sport matches in South Africa?!?.... LIES AGAIN!!!!!

WHITE ELEPHANTS .

Mike..ZA:
No problem there. It shows how the BIG BROTHER(South Africa) is helping the smaller brother(Nigeria) to get up. Economy? Pssfffffff. China is the second biggest economy in the world but we know they still rely on Europe for weapons. We again know Russia can defeat them without usage of nuclear weapons. 1. Britain produces better weapons than China 2. France produces better weapons than China. 3. German produces better weapons than China 4. Spain produces better weapons than China 5. Italy produces better weapons than China. 6. Israel produces better weapons than China. 7. South Africa produces better weapons than China 8. Sweden produces better weapons than China 8. Finland produces better weapons than China..............The list is endless......Your copy masters can be defeated by the USA too.

Man (boy) are you deluded or what? If China produces inferior weapons, why is the WEST afraid of China (including the US)?

If you are big brother to us, why is our economy now bigger than yours? By the way, Nigerians also invest in SA as do other countries.

Fighter Pilot: Over-rated yet is helping you to industrialise.

So what is your problem then? You first said we are not industralised, now you are quarelling over SA investment in Nigeria. Are you worried you will be overtaken? Oh! sorry, you already have been by Nigerias economy.

Fighter Pilot: @Agaugust:

Who is the boss?

SOUTH AFRICA ( hosted almost all significant events of the world except olympics which will come soon)

You mean with all the under utilised white elephant stadia you have after the world cup?

Fighter Pilot: Widows of policemen killed by Boko Haram beg the government for jobs as cleaners.

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/152650-widows-police-officers-killed-boko-haram-beg-jobs.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=widows-police-officers-killed-boko-haram-beg-jobs

This is what I have been talking about, since from friday that the government of Nigeria pay soldiers and police peanuts without benefits. If you are a soldier in Nigeria it is a well known fact that if you are killed in war your family you leave behind is bound to suffer and live on hand outs.

What a bird brain. First of all you are quoting Premium Times, which is laughable. Did you even read the article? Even Premium Times has quoted the fact that benefits are waiting to be paid and they will be supported. Sometimes things take time but they are always compensated.

So you have shifted from the Military to the Police? Didn't find anything then for the military? That is because they are always compensated .

Mike..ZA:
Information about weapon systems is available on the net. Just google all the Nigerian made weapons and compare them with others from their class.

As I thought, relying on the net.

scipher: if this thread gets to a thousand, I'll find you all and kill you one by One it's 2014 for goodness sake

Funny, good luck with that .

Mike..ZA:
I'm not being ignorant. Nigeria has never demonstrated whether it can develop quality and better performing weapons. That's not ignorance.

And how do you know this? Were you present when weapons were being tested?

Fighter Pilot: Even somebody who hasn't gone to school can become a soldier in Nigeria.

Now you are showing even more ignorance .

ZDee: Yes y'all don't except it, but you love viewing gay porn online. bloody hypocrites

Less than 1% of Nigerians Tolerate Homosexuality Yet, Nigeria is in the Top 5 Google Searches for Gay Porn


In Nigeria a Mere Rumor of Being Gay Can Lead to Violence

bunch of hypocrites these nigerians..

Lots of people view porn on line, doesn't mean they want homosexuality/lesbianism as the norm. So I suppose the high number of r*pe/s*xual assault cases in South Africa is a consequence of SAs viewing porn online.

The act is not natural, and won't be accepted in Nigeria, simple.

Now back to military matters as this thread is not a gay counselling forum.

Fighter Pilot: The worst profession in Nigeria is to become a soldier. It is like becoming a street sweeper in SA.

Now this is from someone who hasn't got anything more to say .

You obviously have no idea of the competition for places to enlist in the Nigerian Armed Forces .

Mike..ZA:
Nigeria has no ELINT or EW plane. The ATR-42MP which it operates is a maritime surveillance or patrol aircraft. NO MINI AWAC!!!! EW kit doesn't mean it is a EW or ELINT plane. That equipment is for surveillance and patrol,it can't kind be used to guide your fighters during a dog fight. South Africa has the two EW and ELINT air systems (helicopters and plane) Here's perfect description of that plane. .en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_42 Now here's the profile of Nigeria's air force no mention of a EW or ELINT plane here.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Air_Force South Africa has this capability---»en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Air_Force. Besides project saucepan is on,new maritime patrol planes will be bought.

Please go a few pages back and look for the entry. The hump you see towards the rear (between the wings) is the ELINT addition. This was done towards the end of last year in Scotland. Stop arguing just for the sake of it. We don't have to tell you, we can let you fester in ignorance to boost your morale.

The article below was culled from a beegeagle blogger, but there was no link;

Security forces raid Boko Haram
camps in Borno forests
JANUARY 4, 2014 BY FIDELIS SORIWEI
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The Nigerian military is carrying out
sustained ground and aerial raids on
camps of members of the Boko Haram
sect in Borno State.
Investigations on Thursday revealed
that the special forces had cleaned out
several camps of the insurgents in the
Sambisa forest in the state.
A security source who confided in our
correspondent said that the operation
was one of the biggest since the
escalation of the activities of the Boko
Haram in the North Eastern part of the
country.
It was gathered that the security forces
started the operation in the early hours
of December 31, 2013, as a
preemptive action against the
insurgents who were said to have been
engrossed with plans to launch
multiple attacks on the Borno State
Capital, Maiduguri.
It was learnt that the ongoing
operation involved heavy deployment
of ground troops and Nigerian Air Force
helicopters and fighter jets.
Our correspondent learnt that several
high caliber artillery weapons were
deployed in the face-off with the
insurgents.
The source said that artillery weapons
were deployed in such large numbers
because of the calibre of weapons at
the disposal of the insurgents and
their audacious attacks on military
formations recently.
As at the time of filing this story, the
operation to flush out the insurgents
from the forests of the State was still
ongoing.
The source said that scores of
insurgents had been killed in the
sustained ground and aerial offensive,
even though, the source could not put
a figure to the number of the dead.
The current operation is one of the
several operations carried out by the
Special Forces in combating the
insurgents in the country.
The Special Forces had carried out a
major ground and aerial operation on
the camps of the insurgents at the
vast Sambisa Forest in May, 2013
which resulted in the destruction of the
camps and the seizure of arms and
ammunition from the insurgents.
Several people were also killed in the
operation. Investigations, however,
revealed that the Special
Forces commenced the recent
operation following the discovery that
the insurgents were still operating
from camps in the heart of the long
forest.
The Special Forces were said to have
discovered that the insurgents planted
mines deep into the forest for the
Nigerian troops.
It was said that the current operation
was meant to ensure that no such
camps were left in the forest.
Prior to this operation, the Nigerian
Security operatives foiled what would
have been a major Boko Haram attack
on Maiduguri, on Tuesday, December
31, a day to the New Year.
Investigations revealed that the
Special Forces arrested 10 of the
insurgents and killed one other in the
operation.
The security operatives are also said
to be on the trail of 18 other
insurgents who were said to be
attempting to flee Maiduguri.
A security source had said on Tuesday
that the insurgents dispatched a 30-
man team to carry out surveillance
activities on strategic places in the
state to counter a planned attack on
the city on New Year’s Eve.
According to the source, luck ran out
on the insurgents when one of the
operatives on the spy mission was
apprehended at the park of the Borno
Express Transport Company by the
drivers of the transport firm who
suspected his unusual conduct.

Fighter Pilot: That is the truth my friend, or do you want me to go on details about every point starting with your budget and end with poor salaries and equipments.

Please feel free. You are not privy to what is going on in the armed forces regarding re-arming, up-arming and expansion. Do you think all purchases come from the allocated defence budget? Keep deceiving yourself, it doesn't matter how many newspaper articles you paste here, the evidence is on the ground and happening whether you acknowledge it or not.

Fighter Pilot: Can South Africa help Nigeria to industrialise?

http://www.ipsnews.net/2013/05/can-south-africa-help-nigeria-to-industrialise/

Pres Jonathan during his visit to SA, he asked South African business men to help Nigeria develop its industry. Shame!!

Aren't other countries helping South Africa develope it's industries or are you saying SA is fully industralised?

In this way, we will surpass you by getting investments from all over the world as well as developing local talent.

As I said, continue to wallow on your ignorance.

Fighter Pilot: Large military but still with poor resouces, poor salaries, poor education, poor organisation, small military budget, etc.

Continue to wallow in ignorance about what you know nothing about.

agaugust: nigerian army is 3 times the size of south african army, and we are always busy in one war or the other for the past 25 years
.

And still expanding. Nigerian Army is about to set up it's 7th Division in the South South region (Niger Delta) Which will have full spectrum of amphibious warfare.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/01/fg-establish-9000-strong-army-division-ssouth/

Happy New Year everyone.

NaijaPikinGidi: RKA1 ... Two thumbs up for you!

Thanks Bro. Hope you had a Merry Christmas and wishing you and others a happy New Year

FG’s priority in 2014 is to tackle Boko Haram insurgency – Maku
By Wale Odunsi on December 29, 2013@waleodunsi


Nigeria’s information Minister, Labaran Maku, has said flushing out the Boko Haram insurgency remains top priority of the Federal Government.

According to him, government succeeded in containing terrorism in the North-East of Borno and Yobe in the last one year.

Maku, who spoke in a phone-in programme on Radio Nigeria, said the massive deployment of men and material through the establishment of the 7th Division of the Nigerian Army in Maiduguri had stemmed the tide of attacks by insurgents in the North-East.

Maku, who is also the Supervising Minister of Defence, said due to the huge investments required to set up an Army Division, government had prioritised the provision of funds to construct military barracks and other formations and infrastructure as well as the training of personnel and the provision of the necessary equipment to wipe out the activities of insurgents operating in the North-East.

He disclosed that Nigeria was working to secure the support of Cameroon to halt the infiltration of the country by insurgents, who carry out occasional attacks in isolated locations in the sub-region, via the Cameroon border.

“The recent attacks on Bama as we know came from across the border of Cameroon. We are working hard to reach out to the Cameroonian government and other international agencies to ensure that we continue to put pressure on the insurgency from both sides of the boundary so that in the end, by the grace of God, we should witness greater successes against the insurgency in 2014.

“What is clear is that in the year 2013, tremendous success was made and most of the insurgents that infiltrated into other states from the North-East when the pressure went there, were picked up. Some were picked up as far away as Lagos and Ogun and a number of them are in detention and trial is going on gradually”, he said.

The minister acknowledged that insurgency in the form of urban and rural guerrilla warfare could not be eradicated overnight through military intervention – as experience had shown in other countries with similar challenges.

He added that it required concerted efforts by both the government and citizens in intelligence gathering and the provision of useful information by members of the public for security agents to flush out the insurgents.

He further stated that the Federal Government was intervening in the economic recovery of the North-East following the devastation and socio-economic setback suffered by the sub-region due to the insurgency.

“The President in the Economic Forum on the North-East, unfolded a new agenda for the economic support of the North-East. From this year’s budget, some provision is now being made to really give the North-East support.

“What is seen in the budget is not the end of the matter. There will be a lot of other support coming in and what will unfold will enable the Federal Government, international agencies, friendly governments abroad and also the private sector to make special contributions for the development of the North-East”, he said.

He said despite the inherited security challenges which were mainly induced by local politics in the North-East, with severe consequences on the economic growth in the region, President Jonathan recorded tremendous successes in economic and social development in the last three years.

Maku said, “In the last three years of the present leadership, we have recorded 7 per cent GDP growth. This is the highest we have recorded in the last 20 years”.

He cited the feat as a landmark having achieved the percentage of GDP to national debt as low as 21 percent when compared to South Africa 42.7 per cent; USA 106 per cent; UK 90 per cent and Japan 225 per cent.

According to him, the exchange rate remained stable; foreign reserve grew to over $45 billion (N7.2 trillion); domestic production particularly in agriculture and industries increased while inflation decreased from 12 per cent to 8 percent in 2013 as a result of stable macroeconomic management.

The Minister disclosed that government was fighting corruption through systematic methods by applying technology to block the loopholes hitherto exploited to siphon public money from the treasury.

He mentioned that the Integrated Payroll and Personal Information System (IPPIS) introduced in 15 ministries, departments and agencies had so far saved N118 billion paid to ghost workers and the Government Financial Management and Information System, which networks and monitors financial transactions in all ministries, departments and agencies.

Maku noted that because of the economic expansion, 2 million jobs were created in 2013 mainly through agriculture and industries.

Furthermore, the minister said Nigeria remained the preferred destination for foreign direct investments in Africa with the record of $7 billion (N1.1 trillion) investments from reputable companies such as General Electric which was constructing a manufacturing plant at the Calabar Free Trade Zone, the Onne Oil and Gas Free Trade Zone where 150 companies are operating, Indorama Eleme Fertilizer and Chemical Limited in Rivers State, Dangote Refinery and Petrochemical Plant in Ondo State, Siemens Plant in Lagos among others.

He remarked that the rebound of the capital market, which collapsed before the advent of the present administration had given foreign investors confidence to invest in the Nigerian economy.

Maku said the Stock Market Index has risen by 71 per cent since 2012 while Stock Market Capitalisation increased by 66 percent since 2012 to N11.8 trillion.

He, therefore, lambasted the political opposition for crying wolf over the performance of the economy and urged Nigerians to disregard the opposition who were only bent on downplaying the performance of the economy in their quest to capture power in the 2015 general elections.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2013/12/29/fgs-priority-2014-tackle-boko-haram-insurgency-maku/

Mike..ZA:
South Africa has the BIGGEST ARMS INDUSTRY IN AFRICA.

Mr Hollywood is back with all shiny toys and no action. Fantasy man.

zaandrew: Not one speciol forces operator lost his live in CAR and they killed hundreds of seleka rebels. Nigeria can not even look after it's own back yard.

Like you ran away from CAR and France is clearing up what you left behind. Show me a country that has achieved what Nigeria has in so short a time? They are going to go after them in Cameroon soon.

zaandrew: Let me remind you withdrawing is not running away, the milltary would gladly have gone in. But out side poltical situystion conspired to prevent this.

There are hundreds of dead and captured poachers. Not to menstioned there is not even 1 battlion commited to anti poaching. It is a sanparks affari. Sandf is just helping.

Fardc regulary calls upon SA forces in the DRC and this is the second time our choopers have helped swing the tide.

Pull the other one zaandrew.

CraigB: Hurt where?

Useless where?

They are no good at training, what will they do in real warfare? Pathetic.