₦airaland Forum

obaaderemi:
Envy?try another word because I don't think anyone would envy ibos at a time like this.

thuggCheetah:
wat are u saying?
I am yoruba

bendeniceguy:
1, Was your oduduwa at any point or time in history, referred to as the Oba of ile ife?

2, Tell us where in yorubaland ( outside Lagos) was there a traditional ruler with the title of Oba before 1950

3, When did the title of Oba of ile ife change to the ooni of ile ife and who effected the change and why?

4, What is the meaning of OBA in yoruba language?

5, Which established kingdom in the whole world with a hereditatry mornachy ever sought for a ruler who is not related in blood to the throne to come and rule over their kingdom and why? You can list atleast one outside of your ile ife fable

6, If you know history like you claim you do, how come there was no Oba in Benin between 1897 and 1914?

7, How come the British with all their civilization and superior force of arms did not succeed in their quest to foist an Oba without the established royal bloodline on the Benin Kingdom but a little jungle village like ile ife would lay claim to achieving that feat?

8, Of what use was seeking a yoruba king to the Benin kingdom?

9, Who established the royal title of the Oba of Lagos?

dederocs:
Pls click the link and learn more... The Benin monarchy system, and the Oba throne, is older than 700yrs...this is long before we heard about any other tribe's or their gods in this geographical space called Nigeria.

Pls leave out sentiments, we all are one...but not good to bury the truth.

dederocs:
Pls did you find any Yoruba established kingdoms here, deal with fact man not what your mom told u... Read it
http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/12/05/7-midieval-african-kingdoms/3/

dederocs:
Pls study african earliest kingdoms... Is it possíble, that a man from a small land, will dominate and bêcome ruler of an established dynasty/kingdom?

An established Kingdoms has soldiers, well fortified cities and towns, and an established monarchy,and only heirs can become the Oba of Benin. So it makes sense that a son of a King from an established Kingdom,go colonise a smaller town, with no coordinated monarchy at the time...and lord over them.

ritababe:
he was banished and when the oba of Benin died he was the only true heir so he send his son to rule because he can't leave his place again and he was banished.

aribisala0:
The plan was for Lagos to decay. Look at the stadium federal secretariat and so on.
Without vision and leadership we would have been singing another song

Truth is Laos is better than ever before

napoleon77:
Get your facts right! Lagos (the state where I was born and have paid taxes before I relocated) has been apart from other areas in Nigeria for over a century.

Lagos was the first part of Nigeria to become a British Colony. In 1861.

Lagos has been capital of Nigeria in one form or the other for over a hundred years. Long before the FG moved to Abuja in 1991 (not too sure of the year).

The gap that Lagos has over other states and regions in Nigeria can't be attributed to recent governments or political parties.

The British Colonialist ruled over Lagos from 1861 to 1960- 99 years! Longer than they even ruled over Nigeria.

Lagos ìs the most developed place in Nigeria BUT not because of any recent state govt or political party.

Who built the 3 mainland bridges? Who built Ikoyi and VI? Who made multinationals come to Lagos? All these happened decades before all this PDP, AC, ACN, APC and even NPN and UPN issues.

napoleon77:
This is an error many people keep making about the face-off between Tinubu and OBJ.

The FG during the final years of OBJ's tenure did not withhold Lagos State Govt allocations. What was withheld were the allocations of funds due to the LGA's in the state. So it's wrong to say the state govt survived without allocations from the Federation Account. It was the Local Govt Authorities that were denied allocations.

DocHMD:
Prince Chima of Anioma sent the Bini warriors packing and drowned many of them in the niger river when they ventured into Igboland through the western front. Go read your history. Igbo have never and can never be conquered by an Indigenous African tribe.

Ask yourself why despite Bini kingdom being a stone throw away from Igboland it couldn't influence Igboland substantially but went all the way to influence yorubaland and even naming a city Eko (present-day lagos). Eko was historically a war camp of the Binis. They also own the title Oba.

"I can trace my maternal ancestry thus: I am the first son of Nwanonaku Rachel Chinwe Ogbenyeanu (Aghadiuno)Azikiwe, who was third daughter of Aghadiuno Ajie, the fifth son of Onowu Agbani, first daughter of Obi Udokwu, the son who descended from five Kings of Onitsha. Five of these rulers of Onitsha were direct lineal descendants of Eze Chima, who led his warrior adventurers when they left Benin to establish the Onitsha city state in about 1748 AD.
" SOURCE - Nnamdi Azikiwe: My Odyssey, Chapter I (Spectrum Books, 1970) "My Genealogy and Nativity" p5

"One day I asked her (grandmother) the meaning of the word 'Onitsha'. She explained that it had historical significance. The terminology meant one who despised another. It is a contraction of two words, Onini to despise, and Ncha meaning others. So that the two words when joined together mean one who despises others. Then I asked her why we despised others. She patted me on the back and told me that it was due to our aristocratic background and tradition. I insisted that she should explain to me the basis of this supercilious social attitude. She told me that we despised others because we descended from the Royal House of Benin and so regarded ourselves as the superiors of other tribes who had no royal blood in their veins, "

"I continued to belabor my grandmother to tell me more of the history and origins of the Onitsha people. She narrated that many many years ago, there lived at Idu (Benin) a great Oba who had many children. Due to a power struggle regarding the right of precedence among princes of the blood and other altercations, there was a civil war in Benin. One day, the supporters of one of the princes insulted and assaulted Queen Asije, the mother of of the Oba of Benin, who was accused of having trespassed on their farmland. Enraged at this evidence of indiscipline and lawlessness, the Oba ordered his war chief and brother, Gbunwala Asije to apprehend and punish the insurgents. In the attempt to penalise them, Chima, the ultimate founder of the Onitsha city-state, a prince of the blood in his own right, led the recalcitrants against his Uncle, Gbunwala. This intensified the civil war which rent the kingdom of Benin in two and led to the founding of Onitsha Ado N'Idu, , " "As the great trek from Benin progressed, some did not have the stout heart of the pioneer-warrior, and decided to settle at different places, known today as Onitsha -Ugbo, Onitsha-Olona, Onitsha-Mili, Obior, Issele Ukwu, Ossomari, Aboh, etc,
" SOURCE - Nnamdi Azikiwe: My Odyssey, Chapter I (Spectrum Books, 1970) "My Genealogy and Nativity" p 11 - 12



Another Source

ONITSHA: History and Acculteration


Many historical accounts exist about the origin of Onitsha people. These accounts, based mostly on oral traditions and stories passed on from generations to another, tell us about a migration led by Eze Chima, the founding king of Onitsha around the sixteenth century AD. The differences stem mostly from details of what caused the movement as well as a few facts regarding the origin of the migrants, Ile-Ife in Yoruba heartland or Benin.

All accounts,however, agree on the movement from the Mid-West parts of Nigeria with the predominant version placing Onitsha people in Benin at the time of Oba Esigie. The Yoruba accounts claim that the name Onitsha is a corruption of the Yoruba word, Orisha (a deity seen as an emissary of Olodumare - Yoruba for God). The full names, Onitsha Ado n' Idu mark a complete reference to these combined ancestry of Ado (another reference to the Yoruba) and Idu (Benin). The affinity to Benin people is most evidenct in ancient Onitsha customs and Ndichie titles which have undeniable similarities to what exist in Benin as in names such as Iyasele, Osodi, Osuma, Ozoma, Onira, Osowa, etc.

Aspects of the Benin account suggest that Onitsha people left Benin as a result of a strife with Oba Esigie orchestrated by an altercation with the Oba's mother who had trespassed on farm lands belonging to the Onitshas. The resultant unrest forced Eze Chima, the progenitor of Onitsha to move East with his family and supporters in search of a new homeland.

They travelled for years founding many settlements along the way. It was in one such place, Obior, that Eze Chima died but some of his children and followers continued, founding other places that make up the Ezechima clan in the present Delta State of Nigeria. This explains the Kinship with Issele-Uku, Obamkpa, Onitsha-Ugbo, Onitsha-Olona, Obior, Onitsha-Ukwu and so on. As a matter of fact, some Onitsha villages like Obior and Obamkpa (Iyiawu and Umuase) owe their names to these places and trace their origins to the clans across the Niger.

The modern day Onitsha, however, has become a metropolis consisting of the descendants of the original immigrants and a mixture of hinterland Igbos, the Igalla people and others attracted by the booming commerce, marriage and those whose ancestors were bonded in servitude. The acculturation that followed has resulted in the admixture of present day customs and in some cases loss of certain ethos and norms. Some traditional institutions and customs have however survived this corruption which is why Onitsha kingship remains a revered institution among first class leaders in Nigeria. Other such ancient customs include the Ndichie, traditionally the King's ministers and warlords. Aspects of Onitsha burial rights and names have also survived the cross cultural influence

http://www.onitshasummit.com/History.php

MXrep:
hmmm, see as you mellow down small. Good you are now growing up. why should we use NBS data in April and wait till another census on the population thing?? well, we shall see by next census. Meanwhile there is something wrong with your incomplete IGR report. The data for Abia, Anambra, Oyo, Rivers, Ebonyi and many others are exactly the same figure as their 2015 figure, which means no data at all for 2016 for those states, You are using a data without any figure for Oyo to substantiate your claim on Oyo.

MXrep:
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what do i need incomplete report for? meanwhile can we now accept that anambra is more populated than rivers and not an abandoned shithole like you said since you are now quoting same source (for incomplete report)

MXrep:
which stats did he show, stats said Oyo generates 15 billion per year

MXrep:
Lol, Land mass?? In that case Niger state will generate 5 trillion. Lmfao at the bolded.

MXrep:
Meanwhile, Abia has already realized theirs before targeting, see the difference??

“The projection of government is to realise N40bn from the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development while the Health Insurance Scheme will generate more than N8bn. These are just two of the top 20 revenue generating ministries, departments and agencies of government.”

MXrep:
He targeted 2.5 billion from 1+ billion after discovering a source of revenue in his state that had not been credited to the state treasury and calculated based on the actual additional revenue it will bring. Oyo is targeting 9 billion from 1+ based on merely being ambitious. OK

Presently, the state makes N1.5bn from IGR monthly, which amounts to N18bn annually. But Adekanmi said the amount would multiply in multiple folds after the state government realised areas where revenues were being lost over the years.

“The state government is determined to block financial leakages and review its revenue drive. Lots of revenue can be generated from IGR if properly designed and pursued but we also need the cooperation of the people, which we are sure of getting. The informal sector has suddenly realised that it can help finance the budget and drive the state economy with little contribution from the members. This will amount to huge fund because the sector has large population, more than the formal sector.

“The projection of government is to realise N40bn from the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development while the Health Insurance Scheme will generate more than N8bn. These are just two of the top 20 revenue generating ministries, departments and agencies of government.”

MXrep:
Why can't OYO Abia/Ikpeazu target 1 trillion so that if it hits one quater it will become Dubai?

MXrep:
Like i said, good for them, they are free to target 1 trillion per day. From 15 to 107, very good target

MXrep:
Lol, targeting. from 15 to 107. Good for them. You and your bogus data claims

shukuokukobambi:
You should ask who stood to lose more. I always say you guys think with your fists rather than your head that's why you missed this wisdom from Jesus Christ

Luke 14:31-32 KJV
Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? [32] Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.

A sensible general will avoid a war he stood to lose but then, we're talking about the eternal chest beaters here...

igwebuike01:
‘SMEs responsible for 84% of NLC workforce’
[b]Speaking also at the event, Director General of SMEDAN, Dr. Dikko Umar Radda who noted that small and medium enterprises are responsible for 84 percent of the Nigerian labour workforce, said: ”In Nigeria, SMEDAN/NBS survey, 2014 estimated a total of 37 million MSMEs.
”These contribute total employment of 59.7 million persons (or 84%) of Nigeria Labour force, 48 % to nominal Gross Domestic Product (GDP) and 7.3% to exports respectively.”
According to him, 98 percent of the MSMEs are micro enterprises, employing less than ten persons. The SMEDAN has taken it upon itself to help grow its capacity to enable Nigeria realise her economic aspirations.
He also thanked Senator Abaribe for pioneering the effort aimed at promoting Made-in-Nigeria, adding that trade fairs like the one being flagged off, easily facilitate direct customer-to- contacts as well as sales.
He said that so far, over 400 enterprises have showcased their products in the trade fair, adding that with an average of 200 persons visiting per day, the fair was adjudged good and successful.[/b]
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/03/nigeria-needs-ndigbo-now-saraki//

This is what I have been telling yoruba people, do not underrate the contribution of SME to the economy, SME is the backbone of the enconomy not the large foreign multinationals you brag with. Despite huge multinationals in Oyo and Ogun, they are still very poor and can't change their roofs.

MXrep:
which mumu observation. Both Abia and Anambra are ahead of your state in poverty rating

TundeBricklayer:
Conehead pushing the fight to Anambra and Abia