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Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Otobo Charged With Blackmail Over Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by RosaConsidine: 11:28pm On Mar 20, 2017

iamsamadeyinka:
Proofs

Isn't that last part kind contradictory? He hasn't seen or heard from or about her since then but he can somehow still confirm she has a "long history" of blackmail. He didn't even state any other case that indicates she's a notorious blackmailer and even the one he posted, he also said he "can't really remember". Oh, and by the way,, in his account, there was a Covenant hotel which was also Genesis hotel. Who knows of a hotel with two different names? Clearly this guy is not reliable as a witness so the prosecution should just steer clear of him as not to damage their case.

By the way, even if she has a history of blackmail, it doesn't mean she's lying or has been lying. More often than not people blackmail others with the truth, not lies so this man's " witness" account does nothing particular to the veracity of Stephanie 's case.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Otobo Charged With Blackmail Over Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by RosaConsidine: 11:18pm On Mar 20, 2017

IamaNigerianGuy:
You make many interesting points wrt her being charged with blackmail rather than libel ...
However is she not being arraigned by the public prosecutor as distinct from the private lawyers of the 'pastor'?

I haven't confirmed who is instituting the suit but neither case bodes well for the apostle. If it's his lawyers dragging her to court on blackmail and sundry charges, then, as I said, it's not exactly the kind of charges you would expect if she wasn't actually telling the truth.

If it's the public prosecutor charging her to court however, it does leave one wondering why the pastor's lawyers are yet to sue for libel/defamation of character after so long. Ms. Otobo is still granting interviews left, right and center, each interview coming with more damaging accusations and, if the apostle is indeed sure she's lying, then a libel suit at the very least should have been filed......unless she's not lying.

Christianity Etc › Re: Stephanie Otobo Charged With Blackmail Over Apostle Suleman's Sex Scandal by RosaConsidine: 10:30pm On Mar 20, 2017

Interesting.....she was charged with blackmail, conspiracy and intent to steal. If she was lying, then she would have been sued for (and charged with) libel and defamation of character.

What this suit tells me is that the pastor's lawyers are saying "fine, she's telling the truth. All those things did happen but she should not have used that fact to try to blackmail the pastor". Blackmail and libel are two different crimes. Libel means all her accusations are completely false. Blackmail means she's very likely telling the truth but she's trying to use it to extort money or something else from the pastor. I was expecting her to be charged with libel/defamation of character not blackmail.

This gets more interesting by the day.

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Politics › Re: The Chairs & Floor At Buhari's Family House In Daura (pics) by RosaConsidine: 8:01pm On Mar 14, 2017

FREDUSTER:
BUHARI is a corruption himself . My people are perishing because of lack of knowledge.

He "is a corruption" indeed.

Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by RosaConsidine: 9:34am On Mar 14, 2017

xerxes456:
firstly, A Christian is one who was introduced to the lordship of Christ Jesus as stipulated in the Bible and accepts Christ as his saviour,and learns the ways of Christ and follows all as stipulated in the bible... the walk of the Christian is guided by the Bible and going further by the Holy spirit... Now how can I say I am a Christian? Again the Bible stated it clearly that it's by Faith... for without Faith it is impossible to please God or to even be part of his family... (So that your student and lecturer analogy doesn't hold... ) the key is faith and absolute surrenderedness...
Love is what we preach as christians...
Homosexuality and all the other sins are stated as things that would separate a man from God in the bible... so a christians duty is to let the world know... 1. That Christ loved them, and God magnanimously sent Christ his only begotten son to die and shed his blood as a sacrifice for removal and forgiveness of our past sin... to sin no more and be part of the Christian fold...
2. To Love as christ loved us and in love teach others on the love of Christ and also teach on What sin is as stipulated in the scriptures and edify/ educate/teach on how to avoid sin and remain in the fold... and also clear any form of confusion brought about by false prophets/teachers/even hardened sinners, so that innocent people who should know the truth are not deceived... Jesus did it in the Bible when preaching, he highlighted the teaching for the scribes and pharisees and how deceitful these people are and called them hippocrites on several occasions... (so if you practice anything outside and against the word of God and try to confuse people about it, as a Christian and follower of Christ I have every right to rebuke you and use strong terms to fervently criticise you and tear down your teaching it is my right as a Christian and I can use it at any time to the glory of God).
To those who likes using the " thou shall not judge line" to tie the hand of a Christian you are wrong...
to Judge means to convict and condemn... it's a full package... but to point out ones wrong in love so that the person won't fall into the hands of the devil is what we do as a Christian( it's a far cry from judging), its not out of place to even let the person know the repercussions of his actions... it's not judging it's correcting... or in some cases rebuking... it's allowed in the scriptures...

By what you've said - let's still use the student analogy - it's the rules and the books you read (laws and the bible) that makes you a properly registered student (Christian). And to that I say, still wrong. If a person likes, they can obey all the school's rules and read all it's books; however, it's the lecturer that says if he is actually a student and deserves a grade in that course or not. Books and rules don't give grades that earn you degrees - lecturers do. If you like break the rules and read none of the books; so long as the school management/lecturers say you're a valid student, then you are a valid student, regardless of what the books and rules and other students say. So it still comes down to leaving the person who should know (God himself) to determine who is indeed a Christian or not.

Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by RosaConsidine: 9:25am On Mar 14, 2017

Donjazzy12:
Homosexuals are everywhere now!

You, I won't bother giving a proper response.

Yadayadayadayadayada

We good?

Christianity Etc › Re: Should A Man Who Is A Born-Again Christian Be A Gynaecologist? by RosaConsidine: 4:42am On Mar 14, 2017

CatfishBilly:
Well, the non doctors have come here and displayed their ignorance. Nigerians, ignorant, proud of it and not afraid to show it.
A believer can be a gynecologist because, by the letter of the law, a male gynecologist should have a female chaperone in the room while examining a patient. He can stimulate the clitoriszzzzzzzx to check the nervous system as far as the chaperone is there.
Besides, doctors see the human body as a specimen or a piece of meat to be rather blunt, they are looking for answers on that "piece of meat".
After handling so many breasts and vaginas, they get desensitized to it.
So, any doctor still trying to arouse a patient or gets sexually aroused in the presence of a chaperone is a sexual deviant.
So, your questions have been answered.
*Drops Mic*

*applause*

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Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by RosaConsidine: 3:50am On Mar 14, 2017

Handsomecole:
Soon we shall be hunting you all down to either roast you people alive. Except you decide to repent. You people will continue to remain outcasts in this country until you stop deceiving yourselves in this your evil act. Most espcially gays. Fucking Animal

Are you saying this as a Christian or a sane, balanced human being or are you just trolling?

Christianity Etc › Re: Gays & Lesbians Are Sinners And They Will Go To Hell If... by RosaConsidine: 3:48am On Mar 14, 2017

donnie:
Beyond the worship of images, man- worship and self- worship are even greater forms of idolatry.

I understand the pont you made in your post. It is important however to note that no true Christian will hate gays. We are not against gays, because God loves them and we believe in His power to save heal and transform all who look unto Him.

But the problem stems from the attempt by the gay community to fight the church, demanding rights, claiming that it is perfectly normal to be gay because they were born that way; to the point of blaspheming churches who do not agree with these views. Why should there even be a "gay Christian" in the first place, is there anything too hard for God? Or is there any sin too great for his mercy and love? ...To the point of forming communities? And the effrontery to demand for marriage rights?

Its like the cancer or HIV societies. They fight churches who believe and proclaim the power of God to heal these diseases. They'd rather form societies and vote huge amounts of money towards their course.

@first bolded - if Christianity is truly God's, shouldn't it be only him that determines who is truly a Christian or not, and not we human beings? Here's an analogy: imagine a lecturer and his students. Who decides if a student is registered for a course - the lecturer or the other students? The fact is even if all the students say a particular student is not registered for the course, if the lecturer says the student is indeed registered, then that's all that matters. Even if you've never seen the student in class for one day, all it takes is for the lecturer to say - this student is registered for this course and everyone else's opinions go out the window. So why don't you leave the lecturer, in this case God, to determine who his students are, in this case true Christians.

As for the second bolded, I don't think that is a common occurrence and in the few cases the cancer and HIV societies fight churches over what they tell patients, well can you blame them? It's not news that on several occasions, some pastors tell sick church members that they are healed and give them the impression that continuing to take medication is a sign of doubting God's power to heal them. Unfortunately, most of these situations don't end well. Wasn't there a story of a JW lady some weeks ago who died because her church is against blood transfusions - an avoidable death, if you ask me. The God that gave doctors and pharmacists and pharmacologists knowledge to device treatments and make drugs for treating diseases did not give them that knowledge as a joke. So why would a pastor tell you to just arbitrarily stop taking meds as a sign of faith and not expect people to fight back when such situations end badly for those involved?

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Literature › Re: Women Should Be Treated As Those With “Joystick” – Chimamanda Adichie by RosaConsidine: 4:35pm On Mar 08, 2017

Joshwright:
Have we all sat down to really think what Feminism is all about. To me "It's a psychological thing". A woman wants to be important, wants to get known, wants to be at theforefront. But she been confronted by what the society has conformed to of Men been superior, this hinders her and makes her think even if I do all that I could possibly do. I won't match up. Hence if i play Feminism card, i will be accepted on that basis.It's like been in a trance while u think u sleeping. Women should wake up, life is short, work as much as u can, no one can stop u from getting or achieving as much as a man can.It's all on the mindset. " Acceptance and Vulnerability ".

My brother, it's not just a mental thing. Too many times,women have been told who they can or can't be simply or what they can or can't do not because they are not strong enough or smart enough but because they are women. They are told that some roles, responsibilities and jobs are reserved for men, just because. Have you seen the works of Zaha Hadid, one of the most iconic architects of our modern era. A lot of men in her field can't will never do what she did in her lifetime. Yet, till today, many Nigerians and people of the world generally still see architecture as a man's job. It's this paradigm that feminists are fighting.

As I said, men also face some inequality of our own. Men can't be seen to express emotion as it is seen as a sign of weakness. Men in fashion are generally seen as queer or weird which is why straight men who would like to venture into female fashion design are extremely skeptical because they would be seen as queer or effeminate which shouldn't be the case. But that's a struggle for men to take up if we feel strongly enough about it. The feminists feel strongly about their position and that's why they are making sure their voices are heard.

Also, we men basically rule the world so if we are to challenge a paradigm, we're challenging our fellow men. Women on the other hand have been cast in subservient roles for so long and now they realise it's not deserved , they are speaking up and asking for change and they deserve it.

Literature › Re: Women Should Be Treated As Those With “Joystick” – Chimamanda Adichie by RosaConsidine: 3:53pm On Mar 08, 2017

Scatterscatter:
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Mind you, when a man takes the bullet for the woman, he dies fulfilled and happy cos his main responsibility is to love, care and protect her and he has done this by Paying the ultimate sacrifice of laying down his life for her.
This is what his instinct and society tell him both in his conscious and subconscious.

After this been said, only a mad and cowardly Man will run behind a woman (except if she's a soldier sha), but trust me, Both the society and himself will come after him for the ACt and he will never forgive himself.

Secondly, no woman in her right senses will allow a man take over her kitchen all the time. Does that mean men shouldn't cook? No, but it is only appropriate to allow her do it with joy and happiness as it gives her a sense of fulfilment and responsibility cooking for the family.

I only gave those examples for you to know we both have areas in which we are to function. The more we fight for equality, the more inequality we create.

Rather than ascribe "female, girl, woman" etc, to the struggle why not make it open to all.
"fight sexual harassment of women in Nigeria"
"compulsory education for the girl child"
OR
"fight sexual harassment in Nigeria"
"compulsory education for all children"

Which of the above do you consider more genuine?

Let's just be sincere, we can never be equal as we both have our nature endowed strengths and responsibilities. Let's advocate for strict rules against any inhumane act towards any gender and race as this should be the main struggle.

Just to let you know, the feminist struggle is just a mirage, the main idea is to make women believe they are being cheated and trampled upon, to see themselves as not needing a man, it is also to make them believe they can stand alone and to throw caution to the wind anytime a man tries to exercise his authority.

The main idea is to destabilize the home at the end of the day.

"Life is eazi" when we all assume our nature endowed responsibilties and quit fighting for equality but rather fight for humanity.

For one, society defined roles are the reason why a number of people are unhappy. If a man wants to stay at home and take care of the home, why should that be a problem if his wife has no problems with it? If a woman wants to be the breadwinner of the home, why should anyone have issues with it if her husband is not complaining. People should have the freedom to define their roles within society AND be respected for their choices. Nature endowed abilities and society defined roles are two different things. There are men that are better home makers than women and women who are better engineers, scientists or boardroom executives than men. As far as any couple is happy with the roles they play in their relationship, who is society to complain?

Yes there are differences between men and women but these differences shouldn't result in inequality between the sexes.

Feminists are saying on their part as women, they want equal treatment for men and women. If men want to start their own movement to demand for equality on issues that bother them, they should by all means feel free but feminists won't fight for men AND women, same way gay rights activists aren't fighting for civil rights. Demand for what you want not for yourself and someone else that is Fully capable to do that.

Literature › Re: Women Should Be Treated As Those With “Joystick” – Chimamanda Adichie by RosaConsidine: 3:20pm On Mar 08, 2017

JacksonD7:
She's also losing respect with people that matter. Your respect doesn't mean a thing.

Pained, are we? grin

Right now, my respect doesn't matter for her. I'm not the one handing her awards or inviting her for speaking engagements so I agree with you on that. But neither are you doing either so hey! Your lack of respect still doesn't matter to her! cheesy

Literature › Re: Women Should Be Treated As Those With “Joystick” – Chimamanda Adichie by RosaConsidine: 3:03pm On Mar 08, 2017

JacksonD7:
Chimamanda is losing her respect real fast, first it was feminism now she added gay rights into the mix who knows what will come next.

She's gaining respect elsewhere with people that matter. Yours doesn't really matter.

Literature › Re: Women Should Be Treated As Those With “Joystick” – Chimamanda Adichie by RosaConsidine: 3:00pm On Mar 08, 2017

oxon:
she is actually overrated the only reason she is getting this much publicity in the first place is because she is a woman , I know a lot of male writters in Africa who will beat her hands down when it come to literal prose but then no one has given em any recognition, because in a mans world just good does not cut it, actually excellence buys you the respect you need , if we are to take an equal stand then trust me she won't be this recognized... take yemi alade for example is she as good as the likes of brymo, dammy crane , but she's the one getting international recognition ..

Give a few examples of these men.

By the way, talking about Yemi Alade, you also have no point. Music is way more competitive amongst ladies than for guys right now. Okay, let's look abroad last year for the top rated artistes. Adele, Beyonce, Rihanna, Sia - to the point that Lady Gaga released an album and people barely noticed. And what were guys doing last year? I don't know because, asides Drake, it seems like the guys were only too happy to sit back and let whatever happens happen.

Nigerian male artistes mainly release crap songs without style, essence, content or lyrical value. Asides say 2baba, Darey and Mr. Eazi, I generally don't listen to Nigerian male artistes. Simi, Yemi Alade, Niniola, Seyi Shay, Omawunmi, ASA to name a few are all amazing and unique. The guys generally all sound the same and sing the same thing.

Literature › Re: Women Should Be Treated As Those With “Joystick” – Chimamanda Adichie by RosaConsidine: 2:37pm On Mar 08, 2017

Scatterscatter:
I dislike the insincerity of acclaimed feminists.

"Women should be treated as those with joysticks" but when armed robbers attack, the same women will run behind those with the "joystick" and the "joystick" will willingly receive the bullet on her behalf.

I really pity our Nigerian ladies who are doing copy-copy of the nonsense feminism wave blowing in the West.
Ever wondered why the rate of divorce and separation has increased in Nigeria since the advent of Social Media?

Ladies, be wise as no man will ever give his best to any woman that dare challenge his authority all the time. Make a man feel less of himself and watch a Prince turn to a dare-devil!
Men are naturally egoistic in nature, stroke his ego positively and trust me, you will have him do anything you wish without conflict.

Too often, I see posts like these and I would just like to believe that they are made by people who don't understand the basic premise of feminism.

For starters, women run behind men in the face if danger? That happens but there are also men that run behind their women in the face if danger. There strong, bold, resilient women who would brave any circumstances even better than a lot of men would. Why should they be treated differently or as lesser creatures? Your gender is certaonly not what makes you smart, bold, courageous, strong, resilient or intelligent.

Sure, there are women who are only too happy to play the damsel in distress and leave their men to do everything "because I'm a woman". Those people are just plain lazy and I wouldn't marry such. While there certainly are differences between men and women generally (asides anatomy, of course!), these differences aren't a reason why women should be looked on as lesser creatures with inferior abilities. There are people who wouldn't give women jobs as engineers or scientists or even doctors or lawyers just because they are women. And that shouldn't be so. People should be treated based on the strength of their character and their personal abilities, not their gender.

Of course there are women who use the feminism movement as a platform to be unrealistic and to demand for what they don't deserve. Those ones should be ignored. However, we shouldn't dismiss the entire movement just because some people who claim to be a part of it either wholly misunderstand what they are supposed to be representing or are wilfully using it for their personal benefits. That would be tantamount to throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Also, for those saying men also need to be treated equally on certain issues, I wholly agree. Issues like sexual harassment, domestic abuse and the likes on men are given less attention because we are expected to suck it up. In a way, feminism is fighting for that too - if men would also speak up about these things. Either we're all given the same treatment and attention or we all don't get any attention at all. Either way, equality is the baseline.

By the way, for those equating feminism to single life, you might want to know that Chimamanda is married and is still a feminist so check that view.

Education › Re: OAU Students Celebrate Their Costume Day In Style. Photos by RosaConsidine: 1:45pm On Mar 08, 2017

That woli tho grin

And the lady in black....talk about sizzling!

Christianity Etc › Re: Apostle Suleman's Lawyer Threathens To Sue Sahara Reporters For N1 Billion by RosaConsidine: 11:41am On Mar 07, 2017

Don't threaten. Sue straight up if you're sure there ain't some truth to this matter.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Lizzy Johnson Suleman: "They Were Photoshopped" Apostle Wife On Stephanie Oboto by RosaConsidine: 11:34am On Mar 07, 2017

I have largely refrained from commenting on this issue but I guess st this point I'll bite.

While I sincerely admire this woman's intention to stand by her husband in these very trying times (for him at any rate), I think she should keep that support more private than public - at least for now. The story certainly has holes in it - but then the apostle has not satisfactorily disproved either so it could still swing either way and she wouldn't want to end up being the one with egg on her face.

As for being with him for 19 years - ma'am, that doesn't mean that much. We've heard of people who have been married for much longer only to end up killing the spouse that never saw it coming. Even the Bible says: "the heart of man is desperately wicked. Who can know it?". Well, not parents, not siblings or family who have been there all life long and, of course, not wife. Let your husband shame his accusers by addressing this issue properly ma and proving to us all that he has never had anything to hide. He's the only one that needs to know you're standing by him, not us, so keep the expression of faith private and stop giving bloggers easy news for the day.

As for knowing a cheating man, lol, madam, sure a lot of men may be careless with their " external affairs" but, trust me, there are those that you would never, ever have even the slightest idea about. Haven't you heard of men who kept second families outside only for them to surface at his death to surprise his oblivious wife? Don't be too certain about any human being that is not yourself; disappointment usually follows that.

All in all, I just hope the truth of this matter emerges. That's what matters.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Divorce: An Option GOD Hates, Then What? by RosaConsidine: 3:17am On Feb 28, 2017

While I agree with you that divorce shouldn't quite be the first option to be considered when a marriage isn't working out, I must point out that in some situations it is absolutely inevitable. You can't tell a woman that's being battered by her husband to "endure a little longer, pray a little more or take pain" just to avoid a divorce. What if he kills her in the course of one such beating? How do you want to condole her family; by telling them that "at least she didn't get divorced" when they know full well that if she had permanently separated from the batterer, she could have saved her own life

And that's looking far. In a marriage where the love is gone, isn't it logical that both parties start looking r love elsewhere, eventually ending up committing adultery, a sin? Which might have been avoided if they had jejeli gone their separate ways.

Besides, what does the Bible say about any appendage driving you to sin?

Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by RosaConsidine: 2:00pm On Feb 22, 2017

bennyann:
I understand all you are trying to say and I agree with most. It's just that you're making it sound like religion stopped you from growing scientifically or logically. I think we are the ones stopping ourselves from growing and blaming it on religion.

But brother, did Christianity also stop you from growing logically or scientifically? I think it's individuals that decide to be ignorant and remain there.

There's nothing wrong with getting knowledge, understanding and wisdom, then worshipping God in the midst of all these. Or did the Bible tell you not to increase or grow in knowledge?

I think this is what happens when we give God our part to do.

I like your conclusion so much and it's funny but don't forget you are the ones bragging now.... Maybe religion will go back to its first position as a result

This, this, this a thousand times! Too many Nigerian Christians think acquiring knowledge and expanding their horizons and worldviews equates to abandoning Christianity and losing faith in God. I have told lots of people on several occasions that knowledge is on thing and faith is another - each does not require suspension of the other to be strong or valid. Which is why I encourage fellow Christians to think critically, to search for a higher truth that they don't have to hide behind a shroud of mystery. Sure, there are some things to which we'll never get definitive answers but that doesn't mean we should stop inquiring. I think it's this large scale close mindedness that gives the more militant nonbelievers munitions to attack our belief because even we truly can't defend the two basic questions of belief - what we believe and why we believe it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by RosaConsidine: 4:25am On Feb 22, 2017

On a fair few occasions (even here in Nairaland), I've had to play the devil's advocate for atheists in situations where fellow theist are being irrational or have shown a crass misunderstanding of any beliefs outside ours (leading, again, to accusations of atheism which, again, I'm not bothered about as I don't have to defend my religious affiliation to a faceless person online). It's obvious that many of us Nigerians are sentimentally religious - choosing to stick to what we have ways believed without question. Could education solve this? I doubt - pretty strongly. A lot of well educated people hold these views. I think exposure is more important to dealing with this than (formal) education. I mean, if you work in a firm where there are atheists and the coexist peacefully with religious adherents and things are going fine, you would no doubt be forced to rethink your position in people that believe differently from you. A Nigerian that has spent an extended period in the US or UK or Canada or anywhere else where diversity is appreciated and encouraged usually comes back with a more tolerant view to people of other beliefs. Of course, this not to say there aren't Americans or Canadians who have problems with atheist or gay people - there actually are - a lot. However, on average living in a society where diversity is normal makes appreciate or at least tolerate diversity better. I converse a lot with younger people here in Nigeria and they are exposed to foreign media (and these things are normal as largely depicted by foreign media) and I've realized that progressively there is a more positive attitude to diversity amongst the younger generation. While the average Nigerian of our generation would see an atheist and think "occultist" or a gay person and think "pedophile", the average younger Nigerian is largely indifferent to atheists and just thinks gay people are weird. Eventually they would become the adults calling the shots and making the decisions and their views won't change but the general views on these things would change because it's different from what the previous generation believed.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by RosaConsidine: 4:02am On Feb 22, 2017

I once told a friend (a well educated fellow, mind you) that if I had I had to choose between hiring a gay atheist who has proven that he/she is of sound mind and competent at whatever job I'm offering and hiring an incompetent, straight Christian, I would pick the gay atheist without batting an eyelid. He was shocked. Why would I hire an atheist, a gay one at that over a Christian. I told him I would do what would help my business grow. In the place of business, competence is what matters, not religion or sexuality or tribe. And he goes what if the person starts turning all of my staff gay or atheist?This coming from an educated fella. I had to reply - for one, I don't think I would suddenly become gay or atheist just because there is a gay person around any more than Mikel Obi can become white by having a white girlfriend. If other employees start showing sings of being atheist or gay after I hire the person then they most likely had it in them all along and only just found the confidence to express it because they now see someone who is being upfront about his/hers. Besides, whichever religion or tribe or sexuality my staff belong to is none of my business so long as it's not affecting my business or their level of commitment and professionalism in the place of business.

The idea behind my above is experience is to illustrate how strong religious sentiments are in determining the choices of a lot of Nigerians. Clearly, my friend wouldn't hire an atheist or gay person no matter how competent the person is. Which is why in the country right now, I would advise anyone outside the two major religions to keep a low profile about their religious beliefs. To the average Nigerian Christian, Muslims are just unbelievers -anyone else is an occultic pagan out to destroy them with the powers of witchcraft. The average Nigerian Muslim holds similar views, seeing Christians as infidel unbelievers who can be redeemed or at least tolerated - anyone else is evil. So it may be necessary to keep up appearances for those outside these two major religions so as to get equal opportunities for business, careers, education, even friendship and association.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by RosaConsidine: 3:36am On Feb 22, 2017

Being a skeptic, I'm never afraid to point out holes or irregularities in any theory regarding God or his attributes neither am I scared of asking questions when I read portions of the Bible that appear to be at odds with other parts or completely don't make sense (yes, I would admit, some Bible passages require a suspension of disbelief if you are to take them literally). This nature of mine has often put me at odds with the more "hardcore and completely religious Christians", some in my personal and social life. More than once, here on Nairaland, I have been called an atheist (which, quite frankly, I don't consider to be an insult any more than calling me a Buddhist or a Nigerian) by fellow Christians when I point out logical flaws in some if our religious beliefs. What they don't realize is that it's not that I want them to lose faith or abandon Christianity. Quite on the contrary, I feel there is a higher truth, one that can be known - not a mystery, that can stand the tests of logic and rationality and still be true regardless of personal views or bias. I'm searching for that truth and by pointing out flaws I want my fellow Christians too to search for it instead of just believing what we've been told.

The long and short of this - if I, who still identifies as and considers myself to still be a part of the fold can be vilified and castigated by other members just for not believing without question like they do, what hope is there for someone who says he/she is not only not one of the flock but not even a sheep at all?

Nigeria is a deeply religious country but the unfortunate fact of our religion is how bound it is to sentiment. I've seen some people say it's just the uneducated ones that are religiously sentimental but trust me, even educated Nigerian folks still dwell strongly on religious sentiment, choosing to have preconceived notions about people like or unlike them.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Freethinkers In Nigeria And The Fear Of Nigerians by RosaConsidine: 3:17am On Feb 22, 2017

I'm a Christian by my personal consideration. More accurately, I would say I'm a Christian skeptic. My skepticism is not in the existence of God or Jesus or some of the more enduring, central tenets of Christianity but in the characteristics and nature attributed to God by Christian denominations. A lot of them are conflicting, contradictory and mutually exclusive. Yet proponents of these positions support them with equal conviction. I don't believe God can be all of these things the different denominations say he is and have all these characteristics ascribed to him all at once (and not to talk of the views non-Christian theists have of God). If there is just one God, then (he/she/it? God is Spirit, why do we ascribe a gender?) should have only one set of attributes and characteristics and each must not be at odds with the other if God is perfect and is perfection). I'm also a very logical person so I try to reason and ask questions and seek holes in views and theories on God all in an attempt to figure out exactly which set of attributes/characteristics does God have. What does all this have to do with the OP? I'll explain in my next post.

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Celebrities › Re: Audu Maikori Arrested By The Police by RosaConsidine: 12:02am On Feb 18, 2017

Well, he has retracted the story and told us what happened. Have the police conducted a proper investigation to confirm he was trying to "incite the public" or is someone just using this to score cheap popularity (and probably political) points?

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Celebrities › Re: Nigerian Celebrities Celebrate Valentine's Day With Their Loved Ones by RosaConsidine: 1:12am On Feb 15, 2017

Olu Jacobs and Joke Sylva look so awesome! Now that's what you call growing old together, not the marry today break up next week most of our contemporary celebs do.

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Education › Re: Lagos Government To Make Yoruba Language Compulsory In Schools by RosaConsidine: 1:08am On Feb 15, 2017

This is truly not a bad idea IF they get proper teachers of Yoruba language to take the job. The fact is most teachers of languages in Nigeria (asides English) are terrible at their jobs. They come to class and show their mastery of the language they are teaching but they don't know how to transmit that knowledge to their students. Speaking from personal experience, Yoruba was compulsory for all students in my secondary school and no class was exempt (meaning everyone did Yoruba from JSS1 to SS3). Yet, somehow, almost all of us failed Yoruba woefully from JSS1 to SS3. You can't say it's due to lack of interest (I mean, that many students can't lack interest in a subject and oftentimes, students lack or lose interest in a subject because of their teachers). Even funnier is the fact that the larger number of us that failed Yoruba were born to Yoruba parents and had lived in or around Lagos all our lives.

Lesson number one to Yoruba teachers: don't just step into the class and speak Yoruba from start to finish. Not all your students would understand what you are saying (because some aren't from Yoruba homes and even amongst the Yoruba ones, lots don't communicate in Yoruba at home and don't already know the language as such). Learn to intersperse and explain your lesson in a language your students are more familiar with (usually English). That way they can learn to associate Yoruba words with the corresponding word in the language they already speak and thus learn the language.

This also applies to teachers of other languages tho, not just Yoruba.

Christianity Etc › Re: Xtians/muslims Can You Trust An Atheist Like Your Fellow Theist? by RosaConsidine: 3:36am On Feb 14, 2017

Ermacc:
How will I have someone who think its okay for a man engage in bestiality just because the majority approves of it, to babysit my child? I can have atheist as friends but in business, its a big NO.

I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic else you should know that friendship is a more personal relationship than a business relationship and the degree of trust in a friendship is generally stronger than that in a business relationship. If you can trust an atheist as a friend, then trusting an atheist in a business relationship wouldn't even be an issue.

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Car Talk › Re: 5 Most Loved Car Brands In The World.. by RosaConsidine: 8:07pm On Feb 06, 2017

Damilare5882:
Where is my Benz ..

This is where art meets engineering.

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created The Sun On The Fourth Day ...... by RosaConsidine: 7:41pm On Feb 06, 2017

I don't know if anyone has asked this before but this thread might as well be a good point to ask:

Why did God need six days to create the earth? Clearly he's all powerful and all so would the earth have collapsed if he had done it all in one day? I mean, all he needed to do was say the word. Why did he need time to pass between each creative command before he continued? I sincerely need reasoned answers.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Devil Was The Cause Of All That Happened To You, God Wanted A Perfect Earth by RosaConsidine: 7:01pm On Feb 06, 2017

DoctorAlien:
GOD is Almighty but not arbitrary. There is one thing which He cannot manipulate: the freewill. GOD may present the choices before you, clearly explaining their consequences, but He cannot force anyone to make any choice.

If GOD created only robots without freewill, there wouldn't have been any thing like rebellion against Him.

Even when rebellion surfaced, GOD could have destroyed the traitor immediately. But what would that mean to His creatures? It would lend some credence to Satan's charges that:

1. GOD is arbitrary and demands forced worship at all cost. Worship Him or be destroyed.

2. GOD's Law is a restraint.

GOD allowed Satan to continue so that the universe would see what Satan's rule looks like.

We know the rest.

Errr, isn't the bolded already the case?

Foreign Affairs › Re: Barack Obama Hits Out At Donald Trump,warns 'american Values' Are At Stake by RosaConsidine: 6:22pm On Jan 31, 2017

bezimo:
I can't even make sense of what you are trying to say as it relates to my initial position.
I said give concrete examples, you are yarning around telling me you have links.Mr man, you don't have anything to say.

Of course you can't. At least you were able to provide proof of one thing throughout this interaction and it's that logical reasoning is not your strong point.

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