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bokohalal:They ARE. Or were neighbours of the Jews. One of the great mistakes of this entire debate is our forgetting that OTHER GROUPS AS WELL, including the Edo, Yoruba, Hausa, Efik, Tiv and others, have a history of ancient migration from the Nile Valley and Middle East in ancient antiquity. The Edomites of the bible. Look them up. I suspect there are related the Edo people. Also the Jebusites. Connect them to the Ijebu people etc etc. The Hausas appear to have have had links to the ancient Canaanites. 'Kano'' is a rendition of 'Canaan'. In fact I have seen ancient European maps depicting the entire West African region as the 'land of Judah', implying that many inhabitants of West Africa descended from fleeing Jews of antiquity. |
Obi1kenobi said: Childish musings about the "lost tribes of Israel" horseshit is irrelevant to that basic premise. Post-Roman Jewry were exiled from Palestine. The Ashkenazis (who you've laughably tried to delegitimize in the past as white converts''The majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, according to study published today in Nature Communications. While the Jewish religion began in the Near East, and the Ashkenazi Jews were believed to have origins in the early indigenous tribes of this region, new evidence from mitochondrial DNA, which is passed on exclusively from mother to child, suggests that female ancestors of most modern Ashkenazi Jews converted to Judaism in the north Mediterranean around 2,000 years ago and later in west and central Europe.'' http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37821/title/Genetic-Roots-of-the-Ashkenazi-Jews/ OUCH... ![]() But never mind... Yahweh saw the white ''Jews'' coming. Talking to the ancient black Israelites he said: “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Revelation 2:9 |
Obi1kenobi:DUMMY, Here is COPIOUS EVIDENCE drawn from identical cultural practices: Excerpt: 1. In Igboland a woman lives apart from her husband and does not cook for him or enter his quarters when she is on her period, she is seen as unclean . Even up till today such practices occur in some parts of Igboland especially by the traditionalists. Before a woman can enter the palace of the Obi of Onitsha , she will be asked if she is on period, if yes, she will be asked to stay out. Leviticus 15: 19-20 When a woman has her monthly period, she remains unclean, anyone who touches her or anything she has sat on becomes unclean. 2. An Igbo man’s ancestral heritage, called “Ana Obi” is not sellable, elders will not permit this. If this is somehow done due to the influence of the West the person is considered a fool and is ostracized by the community. 1 king 21:3 I inherited this vineyard from my ancestors, and the lord forbid that I should sell it, said Naboth. 3. Igbos have practiced the taking of a late brother's wife into marriage after she had been widowed until the white men came. Now it is rarely done but except in very rural villages. Deuteronomy 25:5 A widow of a dead man is not to be married outside the family; it is the duty of the dead man's brother to marry her. 4. In Igboland, there is a unique form of apprenticeship in which either a male family member or a community member will spend six(6) years (usually in their teens to their adulthood) working for another family. And on the seventh year, the head of the host household, who is usually the older man who brought the apprentice into his household, will establish (Igbo: idu) the apprentice by either setting up a business for him or giving money or tools by which to make a living. Exodus 21:2 If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve you for six years. In the seventh year he is to be set free without having to pay you anything. 5. In Igboland , the yam is very important to the Igbo as it is their staple crop. There are celebrations such as the New yam festival (Igbo: Iri Ji) which are held for the harvesting of the yam. New Yam festival (Igbo: Iri ji) is celebrated annually to secure a good harvest of the staple crop. Those old days it is an abomination for one to eat a new harvest before the festival. It's a tradition that you give the gods of the land first as a thanks given. Deuteronomy 16:9 Count 7 weeks from the time that you begin to harvest the crops, and celebrate the harvest festival to honor the lord your God, by bringing him a freewill offering in proportion to the blessing he has given you. Celebrate in the lord's presence together with your children, servants, foreigners . Be sure that you obey my command, said the lord. 6. In Igboland it's a tradition that the male children are circumcised on the 8th day. This tradition is still practice till date. Leviticus 12:3 On the eighth day, the child shall be circumcised. 7. In Igboland, there a practice known as "ile omugwo ". After a woman has given birth to a child, a very close and experienced relative of her, in most case her mother is required by tradition to come spend time with her and her husband. In which she is to do all the work of the wife, while the new mom’s only assignment to the baby will be to breastfeed. This goes on for a month or more. In the Igbo old tradition, at this time, the new mom lives apart from her husband, would not cook or enter his quarters. Leviticus 12:1-4 For seven days after a woman gives birth, she is ritually unclean as she is during her monthly period. It will be 33 days until she is ritually clean from the loss of blood; she is not to touch anything that is holy. .......................... Mr white boy ''Obi1kenobi'', what are the odds that this is all a ''coincidence''? Do your white fathers practise the above culture? White man angry that blacks are reclaiming their heritage. Childish musings about the "lost tribes of Israel" horseshit is irrelevant to that basic premise. Post-Roman Jewry were exiled from Palestine. The Ashkenazis (who you've laughably tried to delegitimize in the past as white convertsASHKENAZI AND ALL WHITE ''JEWS' ARE JEWSH BY CONVERSION, NOT BY BLOOD, YOU DUNCE. THERE WAS NEVER A EUROPEAN, WHITE ''JEWISH'' SETTLER COMMUNITY IN THE ANCIENT MIDDLE EAST. MANY ASHKENAZI 'JEWS' CONVERTED TO JUDAISM IN THE 11TH CENTURY AD. THEY ARE RECENT CONVERTS, NOT THE ANCIENT JEWS. I POSTED IMAGES OF ANCIENT JEWS - BLACKS. SHOW US YOUR IMAGES OF YOUR ANCIENT WHITE JEWS, LET'S SEE. THAT'S A DIRECT CHALLENGE!! Below are images and artefacts dated over 2,000 years old, some showing clearly negroid Jews, with short curly hair or dreadlocks, being led into Assyrian captivity. .....................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/30/a4/38/30a43858f8150079106621da5cd6c3ff--hebrew-bible-flat-earth.jpg .....................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jew-Hebrew-in-captivity.jpg .....................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jewlachish3chiefelderspu1.jpg ....................https://sarabe3.tripod.com/images/image042.jpg ....................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b6/61/7d/b6617d484fa6e48f7bfccde67a2c363b--black-hebrew-israelites-in-the-bible.jpg |
Obi1kenobi:You are a a liar. You said Nsibidi was ''artwork', not a writing system. As for ''examples of Nsibidi literature'', that again shows your stupid addiction to western form. Does a writing script imply that you must use it for ''literature''? Can't it have other uses? Have you not read what uses have been attributed to Nsibidi, as posted above? It does not conform to how the white man used his own script, so it can't be recognised on its own merit? Brainless dunce. |
DopeTwelve:The guy is a complete jerk. He's actually a foreigner planted here by God knows whom. His ONLY job on this site is to trash black Africans and dismiss all evidence that Africans had civilization before the whites arrived. He's never read a history book in his life. And he makes vicious racist insults against Africans, using phrases like ''black mud hut dwelling niggas'', while using terms like ''we'', and ''us'', 'efulefu' etc to make it seem he's one of us. He's not. His words drip with total contempt for his supposed ''ancestors''. THAT'S how you can tell he's a foreigner. Oh, and the use of ''Obi1kenobi'' - that's what a typical white foreigner would name himself who wanted to deceptively attach to us, based on that star wars stuff, and the 'Igbo sounding' name of an actor there. Probably the only 'Igbo' name he can spell. |
DopeTwelve:The reason he talks about this ''inferiority complex'' nonsense is that he thinks Igbos are saying they descended from white folks in Israel or something. Not knowing that what we are saying is that many BLACKS lived up there in antiquity and migrated into Africa. So what is the 'complex' there? The ancient Israelites, like the ancient Egyptians, were black people. Below are images and artefacts dated over 2,000 years old, some showing clearly negroid Jews, with short curly hair or dreadlocks, being led into Assyrian captivity. .....................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/30/a4/38/30a43858f8150079106621da5cd6c3ff--hebrew-bible-flat-earth.jpg .....................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jew-Hebrew-in-captivity.jpg .....................https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Jewlachish3chiefelderspu1.jpg ....................https://sarabe3.tripod.com/images/image042.jpg ....................https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/b6/61/7d/b6617d484fa6e48f7bfccde67a2c363b--black-hebrew-israelites-in-the-bible.jpg So these black populations were forced to leave this region a couple of thousand years ago, and many fled into Africa. If Igbos say they are descended from these people, then they deserve to be heard and researched. |
Obi1kenobi:Dumbito.....Long before you were born, actual, respected SCHOLARS have researched the Igbo and West African connection to the Nile Valley and the Levant. There is copious evidence of ancient black presence in that region, and subsequent migration of blacks southwards following multiple invasions. Mainstream historians accept that many Jews fled into Africa after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. So why could Igbos not be among those people? WHO ARE YOU? What have YOU written? The list of historians and scholars who have linked West Africans to the north are endless - Olumide Lucas, Cheikh Anta Diop, Chancellor Williams, Basil Davidson, Martin Bernal. Heck, even Lady Lugard, wife of Lord Lugard, the first British 'governor-general' of Nigeria, who was a historian, wrote extensively about it. So what's the big deal if the ancestors of Igbos were among the migrants? What the hell is wrong with you? Talking rubbish about mud huts. So what if pre-colonial Igbos lived in mud huts? How does that imply that that is ALL their history is about? If you visit Sudan, you will see people living in mud huts. But if I tell you the HISTORY of the Sudan, the history of their ancestors, it is highly illustrious. In fact there are ruins of cities in Sudan that are over 7,000 years old, built with perfect geometry. The city of Kerma for instance. Bang in the middle of Sudan. Pyramids, temples and monuments, sit right there in the Sudan, beside mud hut dwellers. Timbuktu in Mali was one of Africa's greatest cities of the middle ages. It had universities, public baths, and numerous facilities. But go there today, and you'll see people living in mud huts. So you can be a poor mud hut dweller today, and still have descended from ancestors who were wealthy, sophisticated princes, nobles, and learned men, thousands of years ago. You don't assume that because a people are living in a state of simplicity today, that that is ALL their history must be about. That is the thinking of an ignoramus. Your problem is that you don't read history books. So you don't appreciate the ebb and flow of history over thousands of years, how people and societies are affected by change caused by war, geography, migration, economics and other factors. The fact that eras and epochs come and go, and that civilisations rise and fall, and rise and fall again, over thousands of years. A people are mud hut dwellers in the forest? Oh they must have ALWAYS been that way. That's a very uneducated and thoughtless, boneheaded approach to history and knowledge. You need to GROW UP, go on Amazon, buy some history books, perhaps from some of the authors I listed above, READ and LEARN. |
Obi1kenobi:Nsibidi is an ideographic and logographic writing script, not ''artwork''', and you are wrong to claim that ''Igbo society was illiterate''. They had Nsibidi. Thousands of people were literate in it. ''Nsibidi is a system of symbols indigenous to what is now southeastern Nigeria that is apparently an ideographic script, though there have been suggestions that it includes logographic elements. The symbols are at least several centuries old—early forms appeared on excavated pottery as well as what are most likely ceramic stools and headrests from the Calabar region, with a range of dates from 400 to 1400 CE. There are thousands of nsibidi symbols, of which over 500 have been recorded. They were once taught in school to children. Many of the signs deal with love affairs; those that deal with warfare and the sacred are kept secret. Nsibidi is used on wall designs, calabashes, metals (such as bronze), leaves, swords, and tattoos. It is primarily used by the Ekpe leopard secret society (also known as Ngbe or Egbo), which is found across Cross River among the Ekoi, Efik, Igbo people, and other nearby peoples. Outside knowledge of nsibidi came in 1904 when T. D. Maxwell noticed the symbols. Before the British colonisation of the area, nsibidi was divided into a sacred version and a public, more decorative version which could be used by women. Aspects of colonisation such as Western education and Christian doctrine drastically reduced the number of nsibidi-literate people, leaving the secret society members as some of the last literate in the symbols. Nsibidi was and is still a means of transmitting Ekpe symbolism. Nsibidi was transported to Cuba and Haiti via the Atlantic slave trade, where it developed into the anaforuana and veve symbols. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi NSIBIDI SCRIPT https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7f/0d/6c/7f0d6c5b398791cf01b628b66ab16655--african-symbols-ancient-scripts.jpg |
Cubeet2:Ignorant dunce with racial complex. So, if Nigerian scientists did the research it would be inferior? The mindset of some of you is so disgusting. Tufia. And you wonder why we have problems in this country, when supposedly educated people like you reason like donkeys. |
Warship:My goodness you're dumb. |
KemjikaEme:Dude... I wouldn't bother with Obi1kenobi if I were you. He is hardwired to dismiss all renditions of African history that do not imply primitivity and ignorance among the African population. It doesn't matter how convincing your evidence is to the contrary, he will dismiss it. Guaranteed. Don't waste your energy on him. |
AmahC:WRONG. Your Igbo Jewish ancestors were blacks. The middle east in antiquity was populated heavily by black people, including places like Egypt and Canaan. The pharaohs were blacks. Many African groups today, not just Igbos, are descended from black refugees who fled the Assyrian, then Greek, then Roman, then Arab invasions of the Middle East. |
SalamRushdie:You're talking rubbish. Nigerian inventors: https://www.nairaland.com/2994514/16-nigerian-iventors-remarkable-inventions Those guys are your mates. What have YOU invented? Mumu. |
finnestdope:All men are equal in the eyes of God. No race is more or less intelligent or talented than the other. Are white dogs smarter than black dogs? |
35 million naira a day? This world is funny sha. |
Paris St-Germain have signed Brazil forward Neymar for a world record fee of 222m euros (£200m) from Barcelona. The deal for the 25-year-old smashes the previous record set when Paul Pogba returned to Manchester United from Juventus for £89m in August 2016. He will earn 45m euros (£40.7m) a year - 865,000 euros (£782,000) a week - before tax from the initial five-year deal, a total outlay of £400m. Neymar said he has joined "one of the most ambitious clubs in Europe". "Paris St-Germain's ambition attracted me to the club, along with the passion and the energy this brings," he added. "I feel ready to take the challenge. From today, I will do everything I can to help my new team-mates." |
shervydman:Thank you. So, like I tell people, corruption REDUCED after independence. Before independence, at least 90% of our annual revenue went straight to London. After independence, the figure siphoned came closer to 30% under Nigerian rule. Which freed up money for all the infrastructure we built after independence, including thousands of schools, universities, roads, power plants, stadia, hospitals etc. The reason Nigeria was underdeveloped at independence was because of the grand corruption of the British from 1897-1960, by their exporting our resources and siphoning the income to Britain. |
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DutchBrah:The British ruled from 1897 to 1963. What did they do with all the money they made from exporting our resources in that period? Was Nigeria not an underdeveloped country with near-zero infrastructure at independence? If the British are as good as you say, what stopped them from developing Nigeria when they were here? You need to use your brain instead of reasoning like a kid. NOBODY will develop your land for you. And most certainly not merely because their skin is white. It has to be in their interests before they do it. If it is not, they won't. In this world it is all about INTERESTS. Don't just think ''Oh they are white. Their country is developed, so if they rule us they will also develop our country''. The world doesn't work in such simple terms. Go and study the meaning of, and rationale behind colonialism. It has nothing to do with making your life better, but with making the colonialist country's life better, through the direct extraction and sale of your resources, and the deposit of proceeds in the colonialist's country. That is the whole idea of colonialism. To enrich the colonialist's nation. So calling for them to return and rule is absolutely senseless and misguided.. |
shervydman:Our parents/grandparents survived by farming, hunting, and tapping palm wine, or by working as bricklayers, tailors, and clerks. Only after independence did universities emerge which helped to create the large middle and upper classes of today. |
Obalende:Better how? Was there light? Name one power plant the British built. Just one. Small boy talking rubbish. If they put you in 1950s Nigeria under British rule, you couldn't survive 30 minutes. |
writingking:Thanks bro. You too are very smart to recognise such smartness. |
The Day Louis Farrakhan Told The USA To SHUT UP About Nigeria, and examine its own terrible record of injustice and corruption, before criticizing others. 4:40 .................... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuqBHd61jfE |
henryobinna:Stop falling for American propaganda. Kim is arming up to prevent the US invasion of his country. The US and South Korea have been conducting joint military exercises for several years. Why should North Korea sit down and do nothing? If WW3 happens, it will be because of one country and one country alone - the USA. |
sisisioge:Who said he wants war? He's only testing his missiles. America that has surrounded his country with warships and aircraft carriers are the ones who want war, as always. |
FrancisDiote:It is unrealistic to expect a nation to develop overnight an alternative income base. It can decades to build up other resources to anywhere near the current oll and gas based receipts. |
wailersarefools:Don't mind him.... We call this 'Igbo sense'. They think they are so smart. Notice how when they agitate, they never mention anything about oil, even while roping in the south-south. They don't want you to talk about the oil. Just talk about their ''right to self-determination''. In other words, their right to seize the oil, spoken with big English. Sense men. ![]() |
FrancisDiote:Don't kid yourself. Every single state in Nigeria depends on those monthly allocations from Abuja, including Lagos. Talk less of places like Ondo, Edo, Kwara, Plateau, Oyo etc. That monthly allocation basically stops the day Biafra is declared. It will cause a lot of crisis in those states, obviously. |
EvilMetahuman:Don't mind these guys. The thing about it is that they think they are so smart, and every one else is dull. They just want to use style and corner the whole oil that the whole country is enjoying, under the guise of ''self determination''. If their region only grew cashews while the west and north had huge oil fields, they would be kissing asss to remain in Nigeria. |
Unfortunately, Igbos seem to be siding with illiterate spare parts dealers' intelligence and ideology, based on emotion and zero strategy, rather than the erudite intelligence of learned, exposed, and educated people like Kalu. Pity. |
EvilMetahuman:They understand perfectly, but they will pretend not to. |
Kazim88:It sounds good in theory. But implementation is always the problem in these kind of deals, with one side always trying to outsmart the other. |
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