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We were the same boat but KQ has survived longer. At least we have lot of cargo in flowers and vegetables to ferry to Europe - so even with COVID - we still do some flying.

The SAA has not recorded any profits since 2011. The airline has for years been surviving through public funds.


KQ has been restructured- but it keep digging a big hole.

SAA private investor will soon give up and you will have to pump more public fund like we did in Kenya.

We have done those restructuring - We did one big one in 2017 - but airline is brutal industyr.

26 September 2017
Once the last loose ends have been tied up, Kenya will be celebrating its largest debt and equity restructuring transaction yet: the record-breaking USD 2.2 billion restructuring of Kenya Airways PLC. This is according to the lead legal advisor on the transaction, pan-African law firm Bowmans.

jl115:
Where is your source that it didn't fly for 18 months?

Secondly as I said SAA is now privately owned and still n star alliance member.... Its only going to get better.... Unfortunately for KQ it's going the same route as old SAA..... Not long from now we will see KQ liquidated.

Of course - by time you claim to produce as much as US or Brazil - then clearly it beyond cooking.

gallivant:
It sounds to me like cooked figures. Yemi Kale things.

Please get a grip of yourself - and hunt for knowledge - not bushbucks or warthogs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLsUZDlRnQ0

jl115:
it was a month.......or let's say 2 months from 2 August 2021 until 30 September 2021

Yeah it crazy - this how we eat in Kenya - and most people - do eat lots of cereals - but that whole lots of tubers.

gallivant:
Lmao!

You may be on to something. This may explain why they are always on that food flex 24/7..

You're a cartoon - first SAA went down a year - and didnt fly for 18months - and we are just 5 days in 2022
SAA has now dropped from being 2nd to Ethiopia Airline.
To barely surviving.
KQ is in trouble but it's still flying to 50 destinations.
Thanks to COVID - KQ got a chance to kick unions arses - and fired 3000 staff - there might now crawl because staffing cost and unions was killing it.

jl115:
That was in 2021 my bru

Almajiri if you have nothing to say - go take codein . Suffering and Smilling is proffesional in agri sector. I have interacted with him.

theenchanter:
unfortunately, ur life on this platform is now irredeemable.

Start ups - venture capitalist? There are lot of investment - equity, merger & acquisition - etc.

68816419:
what do you have to say about this then?

Lol - you're becoming a bonobo - the SAA airline did not fly for 18 months.

jl115:
actually it was 1 month

Heckling is not going to sway anybody. You're wasting your time. Facts are very stubborn. Your GDP data is COOKED. OVERCOOKED. CRAZY FIGURES

theenchanter:
it's only ur incorrigible brain that's tormenting ur life.

The guy knows his agricluture stuff - that you cannot take away from him almajiri graduate. He has done it in Brazil,Portugal, South Africa, ZIm, has been to Kenya and Tanzania.

theenchanter:
see your life, u've turned to d suffering guy back-patter.

Only a Almajiri graduate belief Nigeria agriclutural production rival Brazil - opps is more than Brazil, US, Indonesia, Russia, Canada - you're BEYOND CRAZY.

Brazil's agricultural production in 2018
In 2018, Brazil:[9]

It was by far the largest world producer of sugarcane (746.8 million tons). The 2nd place, India, produces about half of Brazil's production (376.9 million tons). Brazil uses much of the cane to produce ethanol, in addition to exporting a lot sugar.
It was the 2nd largest world producer of soy (117.8 million tons), second only to the United States. However, Brazil surpassed US soybean production in 2020.;[10]
It was the 3rd largest world producer of maize (82.2 million tons), second only to the US and China;
It was the 5th largest world producer of cassava (17.6 million tons), second only to Nigeria, Thailand, Congo and Ghana;
It was the largest world producer of orange (16.7 million tons);
It was the 9th largest world producer of rice (11.7 million tons);
It was the 3rd largest world producer of banana (6.7 million tons), second only to India and China. If we also consider the plantains, Brazil is the 7th largest producer;
It produced 5.4 million tons of wheat;
It was the 4th largest world producer of cotton (4.9 million tons), losing only to India, USA and China;
It was the 10th largest world producer of tomato (4.1 million tons);
It produced 3.6 million tons of potato;
It was the world's largest producer of coffee (3.5 million tons);
It was the largest world producer of guaraná (3.3 million tons);
Produced 3.2 million tons of legume;
It was the 3rd largest world producer of beans (2.9 million tons), second only to Myanmar and India;
It was the 3rd largest world producer of pineapple (2.6 million tons), second only to Costa Rica and the Philippines;
It was the 5th largest world producer of coconut (2.3 million tons), losing to Indonesia, the Philippines, India and Sri Lanka;
It was the 4th largest world producer of watermelon (2.3 million tons), losing to China, Iran and Turkey;
It was the 7th largest world producer of sorghum (2.2 million tons);
It was the 7th largest world producer of mango (including mangosteen and guava) (1.9 million tons);
It was the 14th largest world producer of grape (1.6 million tons);
It was the 14th largest world producer of onion (1.5 million tons);
Produced 1.5 million tons of palm oil;
It was the 5th largest world producer of lemon (1.4 million tons), losing to India, Mexico, China and Argentina;
It was the largest world producer of açaí (1.3 million tons);[11]
It was the 13th largest world producer of apple (1.1 million tons);
It was the 2nd largest world producer of papaya (1 million tons), second only to India;
Produced 996 thousand tons of tangerine;
Produced 897 thousand tons of oats;
It was the 2nd largest world producer of tobacco (762 thousand tons), second only to China;
It produced 741 thousand tons of sweet potato;
It was the 14th largest world producer of peanut (563 thousand tons);
It produced 546 thousand tons of yerba mate;
It produced 330 thousand tons of barley;
It was the 6th largest world producer of cocoa (239 thousand tons);
It was the 6th largest world producer of avocado (235 thousand tons);
Produced 199 thousand tons of natural rubber;
It was the 6th largest world producer of persimmon (156 thousand tons);
It was the 9th largest world producer of cashew nuts (141 thousand tons);
It produced 135 thousand tons of sunflower;
It was the largest world producer of Brazil nuts (36 thousand tons);
In addition to smaller productions of other agricultural products.[9]

theenchanter:
rvp when he sees a slam dunk fact.

That is a lot of tubers - 59M plus 47m - yam+cassava - plus 3m plantanin - in short 110m tonnes of tubers - so everyone eat half a tonne of tubers per annum

GeneralDae:
Nigerian Agriculture at a glance:

Nigeria produced in 2018:

59.4 million tons of cassava (the largest producer in the world). Nigeria accounts for cassava production of up to 20 per cent of the world, about 34 per cent of Africa’s and about 46 per cent of West Africa’s.[2]
47.5 million tons of yam (largest producer in the world);
10.1 million tons of maize (14th largest producer in the world);
7.8 million tons of palm oil (4th largest producer in the world, second only to Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand);
7.5 million tons of vegetable;
6.8 million tons of sorghum (2nd largest producer in the world, second only to the United States);
6.8 million tons of rice (one of the largest producers of rice in Africa,[2] 14th largest producer in the world);
4 million tons of sweet potato (3rd largest producer in the world, second only to China and Malawi);
3.9 million tons of tomato (11th largest producer in the world);
3.3 million tons of taro (largest producer in the world);
3 million tons of plantain (5th largest producer in the world);
2.8 million tons of peanut (3rd largest producer in the world, second only to China and India);
2.6 million tons of cowpea (largest producer in the world);
2.2 million tons of millet (4th largest producer in the world, second only to India, Niger and Sudan);
2 million tons of okra (2nd largest producer in the world, second only to India);
1.6 million tons of pineapple (7th largest producer in the world);
1.4 million tons of sugarcane;
1.3 million tonnes of potato;
949 thousand tons of mango (including mangosteen and guava);
938 thousand tons of onion;
833 thousand tons of papaya (6th largest producer in the world);
758 thousand tons of soy;
747 thousand tons of green pepper;
585 thousand tons of egusi;
572 thousand tons of sesame seed (4th largest producer in the world, losing only to Sudan, Myanmar and India);
369 thousand tons of ginger (3rd largest producer in the world, losing only to India and China);
332 thousand tons of cocoa (4th largest producer in the world, second only to Ivory Coast, Ghana and Indonesia);
263 thousand tons of sheanut;
In addition to smaller productions of other agricultural products.

However Brazil is far more commercialized than we are, but we have the population and land. Agriculture is by far the largest employer of labour in Nigeria.
Also I have never found a data that says Nigeria has a bigger agricultural sector than Brazil. Agriculture is about 21% of about 450 Billion dollars. We are in range but Brazil is still bigger than that, so why the lies?

Lol. Yes the gold coast can probably afford that Lego city bridge if they curb gold smuggling.

kikuyu1:
This is the only bridge in the world that can cost so little.

Yes Brazil has revolunitized tropical farming - previously it was accepted knowledge that farming in the tropics was hopeless and agri only thrived in temperate climates but Brazil invested in research and have nailed it.

Africa countries should be busy copying Brazil.

[quote author=kikuyu1 post=109105029][/quote]

Tell them. Please tell them more. All the way from Kericho Kenya - they can come and see agricluture like their governors did.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
Illiteracy is like 1 and 2 for Nigerians. You are one of those which can believe anything but dying of Hunger and starvation. Agriculture if it is 20% why is there so much poverty unemployment joblessness kidnapping and armed robbery prostitution drug abuse in the country. Please what does Nigeria produce in agriculture or export Benin Republic exports more coconut than Nigeria. Cameroon export more coconut banana plantain Ghana Nigeria. A country which imports beef which imports fish, you Bleep we are one of the biggest importance of meat and fish and eggs in the world where is the agriculture we are one of the biggest importer of maize in the world where is the agriculture. Nigeria is top 10 biggest importance of food in the world the only thing people and the food companies like dangote do borrow money and produce nothing. Do not forget I am not Kenyan or South Africa I know Nigeria inside out from sokoto to Lagos

The African lion just about to roar....

They know it. They are just here for the fireworks

Shma:
These people are overlooking the fact that we're non-mineral with 70% unstable land.

Kenya is just special.

Dont mix mental illness with illegal drugs - what a tortured argument. Just share the link of the miracle 200M 3km bridge. That has to be cheapest such bridge.

Just30:
That is very cheap considering the scope of work ....

It should easily cost 1.8 billion dollars but we got it at 200 million dollars.

So now it's no longer expensive but cheap?
200m is very expressive and then not enough in one sentence

Good boy .... Anyway, this is the scope of work...

It will have 6 lanes, a cable string section and stand at 146 meters high, 30 meters width and will withstand winds of up to 250km/h

You were happy to show Indian Gupta 600M dollar steel mill? There is good chinese and bad chinese. Good Indian and bad indian. Good Nigerian and bad Nigerian. Investor versus smuggler. Tourist versus drug dealer.

samorobo:
This is a boring rant borne out of emotions. Abuja carrying 400 passé and Lagos Ibadan 4 passengers. This is not worth my response. Wallow in that distorted reality of your hit have it at the back of your mind that your Chinese Ponzi scheme is a failure. It’s the double standard of lecturing Ghanaians about Chinese in their mines whilst you folded your arms and watched the Chinese rob your dreg zoo fry.

I dont think so - see that diagram. Your diaspora is doing great - bringing investment back - but you're otherwise hopeless.

Kenya remain the rising african lion

CSTRR:
If we go back previous years, I am sure we will see Nigerian steadily climbing to the current position it is.

And it is only going to get higher.

Of course I know - a kilometre of bridge is expensive - 3 kilometres that very very expensive. 200M is NOT enough. Maputo 3km - longest suspension bridge in Africa now - was nearly a billion dollar. What kind of bridge are you building for 200m dollars?

Just30:
Lunatic always fast to post

Do you know the cost of building bridges in water ?

You dont even know the scope of the project and you are here posting nonsense....

What sort of inferiority complex is this

Giant stories of grand delusion. Nobody is impressed. After 10,000 pages we have seen everything. UNDERWHELMING.

CSTRR:
I have said it before that a lot of Africans really don't understand or grasp the scope of Nigeria.

Either due to the negative publicity, or whatever reason.
And it brings a lot of disrespect.

They really don't know they are dealing with a behemoth.

They will know in time.

Abuja-Airport - cost 700M-1B dollars - carries 400 passengers per day
LTS - Ibandan-Lagos - double track - 150kms - only 4 passengers trains - - CRAZY
Kenya - NBI-Mombasa - about 15 cargo trains and 4 trains per day.

samorobo:
Looking for useless things ,s look no further,you gat one right here.and no ,do t be stupid.no train carries 400 passengers in Abuja and let’s just pretend it does,we are not complaining neither are the Chinese knocking on our doo for debt. You can to deal with the economic failure of an headline that keeps popping up ever since you launched this failure,same thing with KQ. Never once have we had good new about this loss making venture,not once.

What of 2019? or 2018? So if today a start up in Tanzania ( ) wins a billion dollars in funding; will we then declare TZ the undisputed tech leader. Like I said for the last few years - in tech sector - it's been a battle btw Nigeria and Kenya - with South Africa and Egypt in the mix.

Now continue with heckling.

CSTRR:
Maybe in 2020.

Definitely not in 2021.

Nigeria is the undisputed tech leader both in funding and number of start ups.

Useless thing - The LITS facilitates 4 trips a day - waste of money - more like one in Abuja that carries 400 passengers. Waste of MONEY. Kenya has commutter rail in Nairobi - and the long distance rail services - now Nairobi to Mombasa. Nairobi to Kisumu. Nairobi to Nanyuki.

samorobo:
Unlike this failure we have a double sgr gradually encroaching the country not your Chinese Ponzi scheme milking you fry with no mercy .

Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa and Egypt remain emphatically Africa’s “big four” from a funding perspective, accounting for 77 per cent of funded startups and 89.2 per cent of total investment. Nigeria (85), Egypt (82) and South Africa (81) lead the way from a ventures perspective, but when it comes to total combined raised capital it is Kenya that is Africa’s leader, with startups from the East African country raising over US$190 million in funding in 2020.

Depend on who is compiling the list.

According to a preliminary overview report about startup investments in Africa by Startup list Africa, Kenya is the leading destination for startup investments in Africa in 2020.

Kenya received over 25% of total funding in Africa which is a significant cut of the pie. The top industry that received the funding was renewable energy which is an industry that has seen tremendous interest in.

According to their report. Kenya led the way with $266 million (Kshs 29.3 billion) in investments ahead of Nigeria ($237 million), South Africa ($198 million), Egypt ($125 million) and Ghana ($90 million). The top industries that got funding in Kenya are in renewable energy, Agritech and logistics. The startups that got the most funding in Kenya in 2020 include:

Greenlight Planet – $90 million (Private Equity)
Twiga Foods – $29.4 million (Debt)
Komaza – $28 million (Series B)
Sendy – $20 million (Series B)
Sokowatch – $14 million (Series A)

samorobo:
Don’t kid yourself ,there is no battle here but flawless victory.

The facts that investors are willing to power their generators in Nigeria than going to Kenya should tell you why we shouldn’t even be having this argument in the first place. You are a small insignificant fry. Get that in.

The same train I saw that white guy boarding in Ibandan - you have to drive for 20 kilometres in middle of nowhere to get the railway station. The train itself took 4 hours from Ibandan to Lagos. It also runs irregularly depending on the mood of the driver

68816419:

Man, this video was shot just some days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faKt4BCcW8Y&t=700s

3km bridge for 200m - implausible. Mad cow daily ranting

Just30:
3km long bridge going up this year at at cost of 200million

In addition to Kumasi Outer Ring road, Southern Bypass and Western Bypass...

Huge infrastructure investments

Venture capital - Tech funding has been a battle btw Kenya and Nigeria - sometimes on tech company get big unicorn type funding and alter the scale - of course thanks to some naive investors willing to burn their capital in place where even electricity is foreign - they will spend half the money buying diesel for generators - and run.

68816419:
manze
We attracted more investment in Tech, Banking, Manufacturing industries, Entertainment, Agriculture than the whole of east African not even Kenya , when we talk about FD1 in Africa Nigeria, Egypt, SA and Ethiopia are the big boys
1 - Tech funding ( Nigeria is number 1 while Kenya distant no 4 in FDI), Nigeria raised 5 times funding in tech sectors than Kenya in the 2021, do i need to mention FDI in Banking, Manufacturing industries, Entertainment, Agriculture ??, Nollywood was valued at $3.6 billion in 2016 and now worth $6.4 billion by 2021, Nigeria received 6.1 times FDI in agricultural sector than Kenya

SAA is failed airline. KQ has never stopped flying since inception. Not even during worse of COVID-19. We convered the dreamliners to freightliners.

Bankrupt SAA stopped flying for 18 months. Now they are flying to DRC congo and Ghana - and we are helping them - because we know they have lots of potential.

samorobo:
Let me put it in succinct terms,they rejected KQ cause it’s a failure and no one,I repeat no one likes associating with failure except you are a fool.

Nigeria is hopeless outside banking industry and dangote. When you count FDIS - remember to include Kenya as main source of fdi.

samorobo:
For starters quit this cheap antics of shifting goal post.we are talking about fdi not some illusory investment in Ethiopia.

Second we are 2nd in investing in Africa not Kenya,you are a small fry and probably have Maghreb nation to compete with after us.we are all over the African market from tech to banking to real estate,just to mention a few. This is a story for another day so stick to the subject which is my first paragraph.