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Fix electricity first - otherwise you're comparing Kenya with developed world standards - looking at footpaths and paved streets - while your zoo is shocking.

samorobo:
You can’t lecture me on anything slum or urbanization,but rather I would advise you channel that energy into telling me why every where I turn to in Kenya is one dirty slum deprived of so much as motorable roads and decent settlement .it’s either giving off backwater village vibe or kibera slum vibe. And at best umoja and Zimmerman kinda of vibe. All of those four cities you mentioned are slum.yes you heard me right cos I have seen it all. It will be a miracle to drive through Mombasa without falling into a well of potholes.it’s that bad. Kenya for the most part looks extremely underdeveloped and you know this.all this online bleating wouldn’t change shiit,I am more Enlightened about the state of your zoo,so yeah I know better. There is free evidence all over the net,you don’t even need to look to hard to find one. It’s that quick and easy.


P.s I purposely gave you a 1hour ride of Enugu so it’s doesn’t look like I selectively picked some decent location of 3 minutes like most of your content creators like to do to fools the masses/viewers(but definitely not me). I wanted you to see endless streams of decency not selective cherry picked clips for cheap antics.

You do realize the Zoo is twice kenya landmass and has 4 times it's population. Kenya has 4 decent cities and very many towns for a country with urbanization of 30 percent. Your zoo with urbanization of 50 percent is one huge slumpolis after slumpolis.

samorobo:
Look Migeria might not be the best,but Atleast we try our best to create a decent sustanable settlement. When next you want to develop a town,come down to Nigeria for a roadmap zookenya. See how decent a typical town like Enugu looks like.enjoy the extensive drive and barely any pot hole on the road. Very motorable roads,and this is a replica across Nigeria. I repeat outside those East African standard 3 cbd’s for wealthy foreigners like Nigeria s and the likes,the rest of Kenya is one dirty poverty zoo slum in dire need of infrastructural miracle. You can only heckle Uganda but never Nigeria. We’ve seen it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSkhZe2de0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T1Oa1FscM4

LAMU is deeper and more wider.

samorobo:
Africa’s biggest deep seaport,gearing into completion with the speed of light. The target is Q4 of 2022 and we gon’meet thst alongside with those shiny ultra modern rails.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZmyRWy13YU

gallivant:
Progress....

Ronald Ngala Utalii College, Kilifi County

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI5kwZ4WYAIefRH.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FI5kwDfXwAIyJMt.jpg

When it come to hospitality no college come close to utalii in Africa

They are comparing Ghana and Kenya - we have seen similar videos with similar conclusion. Ghana is close to Nigeria - it's a mini zoo. Kenya is as good as developed countries.

Just40:
no one is arguing anything

It's not my fault that you can't read or when you read, you can't understand..The comparison she's making is between Ghana and USA, where she is from.

It's good to know that your brain cannot comprehend anything but useless argument.

Lunatic

Are you arguing with me or with the two girls? Take your meds mad man.

Just40:
lunatic rants again

Read this on your country water issues where water only flows once or twice a week. Where people walk miles to fetch water right in the middle of Nairobi...

https://theconversation.com/time-and-trauma-what-fetching-water-costs-women-and-girls-in-nairobis-informal-settlements-172425

Like I've told you before, you don't always have to compare yourself with Ghana because 97% of the time, Ghana has it better.

Ofcourse when you are used to having your light not go off over long period of times, you'll be annoyed when it goes off because a new service station has to be connected.

She described Ghanaian roads to be trash because she lived in a newly developing area whose roads were still being developed and the traffic she had to go through to get to her area.
Still Kenyan roads is not a match

Sewage and garbage is the reason why Cholera is killing Kenyans by the day... That should tell you that you have it worse.

Westernized does not mean developed, it means that you are a lost sheep dressing like slaves( as she described you guys) and copying anything you see because of your brainwashing.


Everyone in Ghana speaks English but no one will ever approach you anywhere on the street speaking English and you will be compelled to learn a Ghanaian language..

Kenyans are just illiterate as we've seen on this platform, you guys usually knows nothing hence why this platform bis still going. And this illiteracy is not because you guys don't speak English but because you guys a typically dumb or engineered to be dumb.

Usual lame excuses. What shocked you - Power and Water outage in the mini zoo of Ghana

The interview like others before is a gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP8P19RxIWk

1) Ghana power and water problems - as good as Nigeria.
2) Ghana hounding Nigerians - worse than TZ does to Kenya - South Africa need to go for benchmarking to deal with immigrant menace
3) Now on Kenya - roads in Kenya are better - Ghana roads rubbish
4) Sewers and garbage all over Accra and Ghana
5) Ghanians cultured - Kenya westernized - as good as developed world.
6) English - again - like Kenya girl said - Ghana cant speak it Even uber driver cant speak English to save their own life. 10 percent of Ghanian speak English - the rest are like we see here - illiterates;
7) Ghana expensive - very expensive - accra especially.

Just40:
last year, East Legon suffered a few outages for a period of a month because of the Pokuasi BSP interconnection

Very beautiful.

Baliv254:
Nandi county,
cool cold preserved and beautifull

Shma:
Since gallivant taught you about "forming in the mouth," you've forever misused the term until it's losing taste.

Lagos of 2022 is extremely worse than lagos of 2016. So I'm doing you a great favor by posting 2017 pictures.

This explains their bitterness over Nairobi business districts

You must be dumb if you cannot do your own research. Kenya maybe be undeveloped but Nigeria is a zoo. That is the argument. Is Kenya at South Africa level - No. Is Kenya above Nigeria - by thousands miles. How many roads are paved in Kenya - it well known - so what exactly are going nuts about?

samorobo:
Actually it’s a secret,what you’ve shown for the past five years is recycled edited images of the same spot,different angle. I just discovered what was behind the curtain. And it’s a mess to say the very least.

Sounds like bla bla de bla bla of a bleating goat in Zoogeria. Kenya is not a secret that you recently discovered. We have been here for 5yrs and have shown kenya videos running into thousands.

samorobo:
No Kenyan can lecture me on anything security or infrastructures. Where is your security when 50 Childers are kidnapped on a daily basis in just Nairobi,or the fact that 50% of Kenyans have never seen what an electric bulb looks like.

Abuja expansive road network is something that should be studied in your zoo,Atleast to elevate Nairobi despicable state. And as for those poverty town I am not just mocking it, I am mocking the whole of your zoo. I already broke down what your nationwide settlement looks like in 4 stages. Deal with that factoid.

samorobo:
They will cry blood. The travesty zoo Kenya must continue whether they like it or not.
Visual da tz like this cannot be brushed u set the carpet .we as Africans should seek to help one another.we can have open talks,dialogue to see how we can help Kenya cause Nigeria I think was in their current state I think 3 decades back. How we move from where they are now to where we are is something that should be discussed.they have a lot to learn if only they can bring those hungry shoulders down and stop chest beating emptily. Who knows one of their cabinet member could be reading this and this can spark a surge of anger in him being can lead to change.no body hates Kenya,we just want the best for Africa.

Rants from a zoogerian that can't even fix security or basic infrastructure or electricity..you're comparing towns 30 to 60km from Nairobi city with exactly what in Nigeria.Your own Abuja right in CBD lack paved inner roads

Kenya tax revenue up 30 percent in half year - as economy has fully recovered from covid-19 and firing on all cylinders.
https://citizen.digital/business/kra-tax-revenues-over-six-months-hit-ksh869-billion-n290286
Tax receipts through the first six months of the 2021/2022 fiscal year have hit Ksh.868.8 billion, posting a 29 per cent year over year growth from Ksh.673.6 billion in 2020.

This is according to new data from the National Treasury statement of actual revenues and net exchequer issues covering the months of July to December 2021.

Sounds like a whimper from a cornered cane rat on its way to the Ghanaian dinner plate.

Just40:
rant on

The madcow ranting daily - repeating same nonsense.

As of 2019 census - Kenya had about 6.5M household and business connected to main electricity - about 2 million are business enterprise - about 4.5m were household - now overally number of both household and business is 8.5m connected to metered main electricity (Ghana last I checked was not even at 3.5 million metered connection)

50 percent of kenya households were connected to main electricity - with 17 percent connected to solar (small home system) or mini grids.

Kenya is world leader or 2nd to India in number of small solar home system. There are millions of household with solar systems - Kenya buys solars as you buy generators.

You need to understand that unlike Ghana or Nigeria that almost entirely arable - Kenya population is settled on a small corridor that is arable - and can support lots of human population- and that is where it feasible to connect to main electricity.

The rest (80 percent of land mass that is semi arid and arid) will remain under solar and off grid solutions - it wont make sense to pull wires hundreds of kilometers to connect two or three nomadic pastoralist families who will move next week to new place in search of water and pasture.

ELEVATE THE DEBATE HERE - a

First pic - is Kenya electricity Infra
Second and third pic - is Kenya pop density

Just40:
you're acting like you didn't see what everyone saw....let me type it for you
Slightly over 50.4% of Kenyans use electricity

Now, go and help work on your country power crisis

As always half baked research.
Kengen is just one of many players in power generation sector.
They are only folks with hydro..
Hydro should be anywhere 35 percent or below now.

Just40:
let me just post what KenGen is saying so you don't lie..

Today, KenGen PLC has an installed generation capacity of 1,818MW, of which over 86% is drawn from green sources namely: Hydro (826MW), Geothermal (713MW), Thermal (253MW), and Wind (26MW)

Hydro contribute almost 50%

Your country total demand currently stands at 2000mw in 2021 and mind you your country produce below it installed capacity.... Meaning you don't have enough electricity to go round...

Hence the constant blackouts

3000Mw produced - with peak usage of 2000MW. Average Kenya only use electricity for lighting a bulb and watching TV. We are not doing heavy smelting or minning - which consume power - neither do we use any air-condition. Nobody I know in Nairobi has any air-con. It useless. Most of kenya cities except for Mombasa are in very great weather zones - in the equator and altitude of 2000 meters....great weather.

Just40:
so Kenya has 2000Mw electricity and only 1000mw is consumed with and over capacity of 1000mw ?

You see why you don't have to lie all the time?

Such power outage in Kenya are so rare - Kenya gov is doing investigation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqKUjUYTBYY

There is overcapacity of nearly 1,000MW. Kenya do not use a lot of electricity because the majority of people live in the equator and in the highlands/high altitude - meaning electricity is really for lighting a bulb and watching TV.

Just40:
I've dropped the source here several times...

It comes from your own country census...

All this rant won't take you anywhere

You wish it was in Ghana.
Kenya Power company last did power rationing (dumsor) I think two decades ago...famously in 1999-2001.
We dumped hydro power - and embraced geothermal - and supply issues are non-existent - except in few areas that use to depend on Uganda hydro- now all switched to geothermal.

There are few planned interruptions that must be published...
These are areas where line has to be disconnected - not because of lack of power - but add new transformer or etc.
All this is done during the day.
https://www.kplc.co.ke/category/view/50/planned-power-interruptions

Just40:
I wish it was true

Here is Nairobi City...you can check the zones..each zone unlike Nigeria has it's characteristic.
Zone 7 - is slum complex of Mathare to Dandora. Zone 11 is Kibera Slum.
Each Zone has it's own regulation - on kind of building, size of plots, type of building, etc.
You cannot build a super tall structure in Karen for example or sub divide the land into 1/4 of an acre.
There are zones that allows for upto four flrs tall building.
There are zones that allow for town houses or semi detached or fully detached.
If a zone allows for 10 floors - then you will see thousands of them.
Nairobi Metro is urban and peri-urban areas in Kiambu (Ruaraka, Limuru, Ruiru, Thika), Machakos (Athi River, Sykomiau, Kamulu) and Kajiado (Kitengela, Ongata Rongai, Ngong).

samorobo:
No this not the worst of Nairobi,kibera and the likes is the worst of not just Kenya but africa. Remember you are not talking to a newbie.

Kenya and Nairobi settlements is divided into three or four.

1st stage : Westland(south c,Karen,runda,killimani),uppehill, cbd.

2nd stage,consist majorly or wicked urbanization,concrete jungle,slumscraper : Downtown (Tom mboya),east Leigh,Zimmerman,pipeline,embakassi, i,umoja,huruma,Mombasa,kisumu,Nakuru,lamu,malindi,rongai


3rd stage consist majorly of villages and backwater towns,: ruaka town,ngina town,thika town,west pokot,baringo just to mention a few.

4th stage,the real wicked slum the world has e we experienced: kibera,mathare,korogocho,kwangware

In kenya there is no dumsor except in areas where they are doing maintenance of local line - like adding new customers or transformers. most of maintanance is now live - and so electricity simply never goes off in many weeks; if it goes out; it comes back in less than 30 minutes.

Just40:
the longest usually took 2 hours ... It could be as short as 30min


You can't generalize and put a fix hour for all areas. That is what being object looks like.

You guys really need to fix your electricity crisis so you can increase access from 50%

Here goes the worst part of Nairobi - Eastland - better than best part of Nigeria and Ghana cities

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgVevuK7fKo

Kenya’s passport eighth most powerful in Africa
https:///3KmcWvJ

Good example of Kenya investment to Tanzania https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/news/east-africa/tanzania/kenyan-textile-firm-opens-sh5-7bn-plant-in-zanzibar-3681018

Which facade. I can help you instead of wasting time looking for slums. Half of Nairobi is world class - the one you called Canada. You need to start from Thome to Garden city to Muthaiga to Rundas to Kyunas to Kitusuru to westlands to parklands to riverside to kileleshwa to lavington to spring valley to kilimanis to milimanis to upper hills you move ngong road to Karen - that is about half Nairobi land mass - that mostly as good as any developed city.

The other half (Nairobi Eastland) is better most of anything in West Africa except slums - which occupy 5 percent of built up area and 2.5 percent of the landmass.

samorobo:
Nothing to see here my friend.outside this facade exist the everyday glamouring slum settlements of Kenyans nationwide.you can only impress Uganda and every other East African backwater but definitely not a Nigerian.we have seen it all and I most say I feel stupid arguing with you guys this past years. If there is anything I feel pity fir you guys not astonishment. You will be needs more upgraded lies to brainwashing the experience I have had to encounter this past few days.I hate to break it to you but there is really nothing we as Nigerians can learn from Kenya,absolutely nothing,maybe SA and the Maghreb but certainly not insignificant giant zoo Kenya.

Fireworks along thika road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tekaDASy3E

Samrobo - I see you've been on Kenya video like white on rice - here is another one - showing you why Nairobi has been voted the 4th most dynamic city in the World and 11th best place to live in by experts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQvPTPpPps

obaaderemi:
Thank you for this exposé, brother.
I can see it destabilized the little indians. They've been quiet for a while now. But trust them to come back with a vengeance.

But then, this is what we have said for years, Kenya is little beyond Nairobi. What you see displayed by kenyans is just a shiny façade hiding a mud and rotting structure behind it. Whereas countries like Nigeria have open forums where they discuss their problems, Kenya hides its own problems behind fake figures and content with what's going on.

There's no way you can compare Kenya with Ghana or Nigeria. They admitted Ghana was better than Kenya on the other thread. I don't know why the Ghanaians are still arguing with them. If I were a Ghanaian I would just dig out such posts and fling it at them anytime they write nonsense.

Nigeria has got serious problems that look so intractable. At times I wonder how we got here but I look at the structure and especially our northern problem and make a kind of meaning out of it all.

But I just can't make any meaning out of Kenya's myriad of problems. They're small and so indebted. They have more than enough land mass for their population yet the slums keep growing. They have land yet starve. They're relatively peaceful yet the economy remains so small.
And I don't understand how the kenyattas have been able to pocket the country for so long.

But to be honest, I like the longsuffering contentment of the masses of Kenya. They hardly talk I'll of their country. And I like what the Europeans have done with wildlife and nature in Kenya and East Africa. Lastly I also like what they've done with power supply. At least they ensure Nairobi has a good supply. But Kenya can be a lot better if the people are more daring.

nonsensical rant full of buts

Stargate254:
While I was reading the comments about Kipevu Terminal, I can't find the exact comment but someone said that Kipevu can only handle small vessels of 200m because it has a quay length of 770m... (Probably took 770/4 vessels at a time), This is inaccurate.. If the old Terminal could handle 300m tankers, you think a new, more modern terminal would be anything less?


FYI, The Terminal is 770m long yes, but its double sided, that means the quay length is 1540m!, that means, any berth can easily accommodate a 400m tanker!

pic1. The artistic impression of the offshore Terminal, As you can see, ships dock on both sides of the 770m long terminal.
pic2: Wide angle of the port Area (With Kipevu Terminal offshore at the bottom)
pic3: The actual distance of the terminal as measured by googlemaps.
pic4: Gives you a sense of the scale of the terminal.

Thanks..make sense

More aptly burning money approach. Look at Kenya - I was client of that bank (TNB) - because my friend works there as branch manager - and almost all customers were either Kalenjin (my tribe) or somalis (big money launderers too).My late father was also a customer. This was Moi's personal bank - and these small banks in Kenya used for money laundering corrupt proceeds - and now you paid Moi and company - 2B kshs (20M dollars) - and then Moi withdrew his business from that bank - and Kalenjin like me - we withdrew - and it's dies. You will never make profit in kenya.

68816419:
Ok, the approach is called market penetration approach, just within the last 4 months, Access bank bought old banks accros all regions in Africa, in Kenya, Zambia, Bostwana and South Africa.