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MPs are just the patrons - work of MP is legislature, oversight and REPRESENTATION - the last part if where they gather local issues that should not go to Nairobi - and take it to CDF office - and agree. MP is a patron. When they are in parliament they discuss NATIONAL ISSUES...not ask question about a cattle dip or school or bus.

Just30:
You are too mad

Everyone has debunked the falsehood you are spewing and you are still repeating it.

That's the definition of insanity


Sorry, in Sane countries, the duty of MPs are to go make laws that will serve the interests of their country.

Everything developmental are left to district assemblies and mayors.

1 million per constituency goes to the district Assembly for development.

MPs receive common fund to provide scholarships and stuffs for people in their area

We have olympic gold in boxing - you don't have. We have 7 olympic boxing medals.

vankelvin:
So would you say we have never won an Olympic medals?

Let's do this,
--How many International boxing champions have you produced?
-- How many Under 17, 20 African or World cups have you won?

Common sense, build proper Stadiums and stop giving excuses, stadiums are not built for only one discipline. How can you build a stadium and not fix a seat?

Echo machine.

Just30:
madman you've forgotten that upperhill is part of highridge

Lagos is Slumpolis. I only consider VI including EKO/Banana to be half decent. Anyway I guess because you have integrated slums - they can live anywhere. In kenya - they have to live in slums. There are no integrated slums. You cannot live in Runda or name them if you don't have rent of 2,000usd per month - so you need to earn 6,000 usd.

So in evening you see very many people walking to slums....human traffic jam.

Jamestown123:
You only know of Victoria island, but you forgot that Lagos has more that 30 cities. Someone who receive a salary let's say 150$ a month can stay in Yaba, surulere, or Ilupeju, gbagada and the rest. Lagos does not start and end in Victoria island. That's even for the rich people. Or people who earns above 1.5k $. Mokoko, ajegunle, and some parts of obalende is where you call slum. Ajegunle is even hundred percent ahead of kibera. Because they have toilets, major roads and electricity.

The resident madman think Takoradi is better than anything in kenya lol. Are we looking at the CBD. SLUMPOLIS.

gallivant:
Much better?

Kumasi
https://media.timeout.com/images/100714973/750/422/image.jpg
https://img.theculturetrip.com/1440x807/smart/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/gctp0025-kumasi-central-market-kumasi-ghana-oluwatomiwa-4.jpg

Takoradi
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ouPH75Trk20/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xy5CVxOb5ys/maxresdefault.jpg

Accra
https://www.graphic.com.gh/news/general-news/265-slums-identified-in-accra.html

Why don't they send participant to special olympic (Paralympics) - for mentally challenged divisions. They will sweep the board. They are all mentally paralyzed.

gallivant:
The hobbit anthem has never been sang in any Olympic games. That's a shame..

madman - that is why I said taxes - but total revenues is taxes +AIA - our taxes are 16B (your total budget) plus AIA (2-4B).

Just30:
will you stop lying on this platform


Crazy kid, who adds cort fines and stuffs to taxes?


Next excuse for why kenya with almost twice the population of Ghana collect almost the same taxes as Ghana

Ghana - Medals Gold 0 Silver 1 Bronze 3 Total 4

You claim to be good in boxing.

Kenya boxing olympic records

Boxing 1 (gold) 1(silver) 5 (Bronze) 7

So we beat your entire olympic record in boxing alone.

vankelvin:
Just as I always say
Gallivant
Wouche
Rvp2018 are special children with special needs. You guys always pull stories out of your anus. Always make good use of goggle.

Imagine
There is no way Ghana will never have an Olympic medals.

How many World boxing champions do you have?
How many International football cups have you won?

Let me use this opportunity to educate you.

Stadiums are not built for only one discipline.
It serves many purposes including restaurants, conference halls and hotels, so if you think Stadiums are for long distance runners only then I'm sorry your are ignorant

And where do they live? They commute from say Victoria Island or you give them a house to stay? In kenya - they live in slums - because it's near their job place - and rent is cheap like 5-10 dollars - and they are paid 130 dollars (minimum salary in Kenya)

Jamestown123:
I'm not here to trade words with bro, trying to educate you. 90 percent of cleaners in Lagos are hired from a cleaning company, security company, just name it bro. Lagos alone no be Kenya mate.

LOL - madman - highridge is next to Parkland. A ridge and hill are two different things.
Highridge - is from 15minutes from this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZE1Y-e21HM

Just30:
Upperhill is part of the Highridge area


Zombie who knows nothing about his country

At least you can name our slums - they are contained, identifieable and therefore FIXABLE. Like that one confined to 1.5 SQKM. You entire cities are SLUMPOLIS. Look at the madman - and his ACCRA - it looked like it was nuked. And he calls it PLANNED.

Appisko:
Naming Nairobi slums another big one


Korogocho is one of the largest slum neighbourhoods of Nairobi, Kenya. Home to 150,000 to 200,000 people pressed into 1.5 square kilometres, northeast of the city centre, Korogocho was founded as a shanty town on the then outskirts of the city.

Last time I checked your were still mad. Kenya generates 1.5B per month on taxes alone. We have NOT touched AIA (user fees/fines) - that is another 4B annually. Our total revenues are 20-21B. That is why we have 33B budget before covid.

Just30:
the last time we did this, kenya was generating 13 million dollars in taxes while Ghana was generating 12


Crazy kid, refer back to it.

Hawking is not a job. All those informal jobs - are not jobs. That is just surviving or hustling!. The difference btw Kenya and Nigeria is day and night. For example - nearly all security guards come from a company. We do not import cousins from rural kenya - and make them our watchmen. They are hired by security companies - we pay security company - they pay them 100-150dollars - not enough to really rent - anywhere except slums. The same with cleaners...they are hired from cleaning companies. Name it. Kenya is formalizing very fast.

Kenya for example has 400,000-500,000 security guards. Not Nigeria gateman . Not your imported relative who you stationed on the gate.

Jamestown123:
See why you are such an ass, see why Kenya will remain poor? Thank God you just admitted that most of you here are only working as watchmen, cleaners, and maids. Nigerians has the highest entrepreneurs in Africa, you know why? Because people no longer want the jobs that pays peanut, Nigeria is growing fast today because the youths are thinking fast, thinking of the way forward. Stop thinking like a slowpoke and pick yourself up bro, you cannot live in those beautiful houses you always post if you continue working as a watchman, a cleaner or a maid. You can only clean it, watch over it but not have a taste of it.

Exposing - we already named all the slums - big ones are Kibera, Mathare, Mukuru slum complex, Korogocho. Kibera is mere 650 acres. All kenyan slums occupy 2% of Nairobi area..5% of the built area.

Appisko:
Exposing Kenyan lies this mathare another huge slum in Nairobi

Precisely. We have to suffer these madmen.

Wuoche:
This is the first time I have seen someone who has never been to a certain place pretending to know that place better than the residents.

This is Member of Parliament offering bus to Upperhill school.

Slums in kenya are source of cheap labour to middle and upper class, offices and industrial area.
https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/an-aerial-photo-of-kibera-in-nairobi.jpg?quality=75&strip=all&w=1900&h=1112

Appisko:
Hahaha chief lier and lame excuses hahah

Madman - quote credible FIGURES - otherwise your verbal diarrhea is nauseating.

Just30:
yes Ghana generate 1 billion dollars less tax than kenya.

But shouldn't kenya be generating 2 times more tax than Ghana, assuming all thing being equal ?

Rural Urban migration was handled well here and that is why we didnt end up creating the many slums that majoring of Kenyans live in




Next excuse for why kenya has manage to create so many slums

Kenya slums are like South African slums. All kenyan slums are situated 1) Next to Upper class estates 2) Next to industrial area and 3) Next to CBD. People who live in slums work for rich people as maids, drivers, and in industries providing temporary cheap labour. They are cleaners in officers...and watchmen.

For example - Kibera provide Labour for Karen and many areas around CBD. Mathare provide labour for Muthaiga and areas. Each of kenya rich areas has some little slum - created by poorly paid labourers - they walk to their work - rich men homes or office - and walk back home.

Rarely do you find a 5 generation of slum dwellers like Accra or Nigeria. You don't find slum dwellers like Makoko of fishermen. West African people are stuck in slum for many generations - just doing nothing but hustling

Most kenya slum dwellers arrive from rural areas - try to find any job - and work their way out of the slums.

Jamestown123:
What are you busy doing in Nairobi? Nothing, just looking for how the government will solve your problem. Why haven't you gone back to your village to farm? You still choose to stay in Kibera with 8 people in 1 room. This is 2021 bro, think ahead, agriculture is the way. Go back to your village.

47 counties are building 47 stadiums. That is beauty of devolution and taking power close to people. Each have their own designs and priority.

vankelvin:
Why do Kenyans always construct Stadiums without proper seats?
You guys prefer sitting on the floor abi? Or you don't have money to by seats?

This is not a complete stadium

madman.

Just30:
That is a well planned area that is well developed


It has quality infrastructure that makes Nairobilook like a slum.


The fact that the entire kenya is a slum does not mean everywhere else in Africa is a slum.

Come and learn the kind of urban planning that makes the majority of Ghanaians prosper to live in quality homes and build great societie.

Rural-Urban migration should match the economy development of a country. People should move to cities to find moderns jobs. Not find basic stuff like electricity, piped water and the likes. In Kenya - rural areas - have good roads, 24-7 electricity, piped water and people own their farms. Their farm produce are bought. There are very many good schools in rural areas.

That helps reduce urban migration until their is COMMENSURATE formalization and sophistication of the economy to bring modern urban jobs.

Otherwise you'll create huge slumpolis like your cities - which I cannot call cities - SLUMPOLIS.

Jamestown123:
Nigeria has a population of over 200m, so if 20m lives in Lagos, does that mean the rest lives in the rural areas? Please stop thinking from you anus. Because Tokyo alone has over 30m plus populations.

You urban 60% generate less taxes than kenya. West Africa is messed up because of that. Those idlers and hustlers in your urban areas should be busy farming.Look at Nigeria and Ghana- 100M people in urban cities - all suffering in poverty.

Rural-Urban migration should be managed well - otherwise you create urban sprawl like your cities. SLUMPOLIS.

Someone arrive in Lagos - find no job waiting for him (economy is at infancy) - resort to hawking or stealing or sex trade or Yahoo1

Just30:
no wonder 73% of kenyans are villagers and those who make it into the city end up created urban sprawl that send them into horrible slums that make up 80% of places like Nairobi and co.


Kenya need to take over it own economy so that kenyans can thrive and be able to live in good homes so they can afford stuffs and have a great quality of life.

Slum living is horrible way to degrade the majority of your citizens.

The next level of Gov - Counties - Post 2010 - County gov and National gov have functions defined. This nearest to Nigeria State gov. They are 47 in kenya with elected gov and county assembly to pass by-laws.

For example Counties are in charge of all hospitals and dispenaries, they are in charge of only pre-primary, in charge of water and in charge of rural roads.
Nearly all counties therefore maintain rural roads deep into villages.
They build stadiums name it.

County gov were given 17 functions and 40 functions remain with national gov. They have about 50-200M dollars annually to fix things in county of 0.5-1M people.


Example:When I took over as the first Kakamega Governor I established that road network was in a deplorable state.
I unveiled an ambitious programme of constructing the roads especially those in rural areas; My government has been able to tarmac over; 54km of road and gravelled 1200km.

China is that is nearly becoming developed country has same urbanization with Ghana. China gdp per capita is 11k. Their cities look like cities..and they try to keep rural-urban migration in check - to avoid west and central african urbanization - slumization - urban sprawl.

In kenya in 1980s - gov run campaign to keep people in rural areas.

Because they move and create slums in cities.

Shma2020:
They have just attained 60% mark recently.

From 2018 as you go back, they have been playing below 60%.

What will you say about India?

Nearly every secondary school in kenya has bus courtsey of CDF. People decide local priorities and fix them.

Accra looks like a cattle kraal and should have less than 1M people. It doesn't have the infrastructure, the housing and name it to support 5m people. You know likes of London or Paris are maybe 5-8M.

vankelvin:
How old are you? Cos you always pull stories out of your anus. Anytime you comment you give accurate figures about your country but always fail to do same for other countries. And you claim to have a 2nd Degree? You don't speak like a Graduate at all.

Firstly, google the population size of Accra before making any claims okay? The last time I checked the entire Greater Accra Region was still below 5Million

NG- CDF project are all over the country - and the MPs can solve immediate local issues - without waiting for national gov

Every MP (whether in opposition, independent) - is a patron of CDF - with his constitutuent can decide to build anything - repair rural roads - buy grades - name it.

Kenya's NG-CDF - Constituency Development Fund - was established with every elected MP (290) as the patrons. They get 1-2M dollars annually to deal with local issues like schools, bursaries, water, police stations.

People decide - the last pic is school built in Kibra through this CDF fund.

In 1983 kenya launched "District Focus for Rural Development Strategy" to replace 1967b" Africa socialism" that had centralized development.

This help stymie the rural-urban migration.

CDF of 2005 - where each MP is given 1-2m dollars every year for rural project also helped.

The 2010 constitution with counties - has accelerated rural development.

It actually slumization. West Africans have totally failed to develop rural areas - hence everyone bails out to the cities. That is why Lagos is 20M - accra that look really shiety has population of Nairobi.

The same is true in DRC - everyone has basically bailed out to cities - and created giant shanty slumpolis. You're either in Kinsahasa or in middle of undeveloped jungle.

In kenya rural development focus has always been very strong.

Shma2020:
Your urbanization rate is higher than China so does that mean Ghana is developed than China?

Zombie who always come to sh*t on Nairaland is supriced that he has poo another hidden reality ..

60% of your urbanization rate is slummish ridden, try and eradicate slums and build your country properly before gathering your audacity to debate big boys. . we're WAAAY above that slumbolish vallege cage.

You're actually blind for real. Upperhill is part of Langata const. Langata was one large const and was recently split into Kibera and Langata.

Just30:
they dont even know their country

Just watch upperhill listed in westland constituency with the likes of parkland and kitisuri