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Road is designed based on traffic flow - at least in medium term.
You cannot just build dual carriage in madiguaru - to be used by motorcycles?
Nigeria should focus on repairing and maintaining the existing road...long before they add new roads.

Most east africa countries have good roads - it very hard to find a pothole in major highways. I have NEVER seen a pothole in Rwanda. In Uganda all the major roads do not have potholes. In kenya potholes are very rare on all major highways.

The roads are towns are dualized - coz there is traffic. The roads in hilly areas have extra climbing lane for slow trucks.

West Africa and Central Africa is something else. The infrastructure is completely decayed - and nearly all roads look like ugly with overgrown grass and bushes.

Please check LPI - logistic performance index - so you know if you're completely broken down dual roads are functioning or not.

In kenya - it takes 24hours to drive from Mombasa to Malaba - and even Kampala...distance of 2,000 kilometers in a truck.

In Nigeria - we heard of 78 days - a truck from Lagos port by the time it reaches Abuja will be weeks.

Roan77:
Bro, dual carriageway is an achievement, and part of infrastructural developments, if you doubt me, ask the Europeans or Chinese or even American, or our brothers, South Africa building dual carriageway, because they know the importance of it.
Watch this video, although I couldn't get a better video to prove you wrong about your claim, this is Senegal road, and I don't think you will find this kind of road in East Africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl01yxiiUV4

Really - that would be insane.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:
All the Railway projects which Nigerian government is building is rubbish they are Light Railway with a maximum capacity of 15 tonnes per wagons what this means is even the wagons cannot carry a single container because a container weight is 35 tons. These are just Light Railway for carrying people nothing else.. what other African countries abandoned in 1970 is what Nigerian government is doing today

Dear the resident nutjob,

Please for a change just quote credible data like below

Thanks,

Appisko:
the usual nonsense from the resident

Nigeria despite being twice kenya - has probably less road network than kenya

As of 2016 - road survey - we had 230,000kms of road network

68816419:
Show us the latest Data from your government and not from your asssss

Macrotrends is who again? This nonsense we've come to expect from a bottom feeder like you.

Appisko:
According to macrotrends
Most industrialized countries in Africa top 5

South Africa
Egypt
Nigeria
Morroco
Ghana

Rvp the chief lier would deny this

old data again.

Shaytun:
Another arse statement.

Kenya has a road network of about 177,800 km out of which only 63,575 is classified. The classified road network has increased from 41,800 km at independence to 63,575 km today, a development rate of less than 600 km per annum. During the same period, the paved road length grew from 1,811 km to 9,273 km. It is presently estimated that about 70% (44,100 km) of the classified road network is in good condition and is maintainable while the remaining 30% (18,900 km) requires rehabilitation or reconstruction.

Rwanda no - the rest of course

vankelvin:
Okay, same question I asked the SA guy
is Mauritius
Rwanda
Cape verde and Seychelles developed/ahead of Kenya answer?

They don't...but they should

68816419:
Does that mean that , Kenya's national highway authority does not updates it's site?

First search reveal 39M dollars. Not enough to fund a single Local Authority Roads. You are roads are cousins of Congo.

68816419:
Only "Sukuk fundings" funds more roads maintenance than the whole of Kenya.
Go read about it mazze.

Old data. Kenya road network is now 200,000km. Nigeria is slightly higher - about 250k - despite being twice kenya. South Afric has 750k.
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Botswana
Namibia and
Angola are doing fine but they can't stand Ghana.

That is BOLLOX. Namibia, Angola and Botswana are miles ahead of Ghana

vankelvin:
Are you okay?

Did you read the portion where I said
Namibia
Bostwana and Angola are doing fine?

Swaziland is actually the poorest. Namibia is at south africa level almost. I have been there. Don't go there. You're ignorant. Botswana is also good. Angola has turned the corner.

But Zambia is bad. DRC Congo is worst - than West Africa.

vankelvin:
Oh oh oh

So this is your new tactics?

Is Swaziland a country?

Take South African out, all the other Southern African countries can't shake Ghana in anyway.

Botswana
Namibia and
Angola are doing fine but they can't stand Ghana.

Mind you, Ghana was one of the few countries that helped South Africa to overcome Apartheid.

This year you budgeted for only 100m dollars to fix this gigantic mess.

Nigeria relies heavily on road transport with over 90% of surface transport of goods happening by road. Poor or inappropriate maintenance has caused the 200,000km road network to decay. With little strategic direction, poorly defined plans, and unstable and unsustainable budgets, the level of service for the road network is inadequate.

Shaytun:
Pulling statement out of your arse again Mr rvp??

Using which money? Your country has only 100M dollars to maintain roads this year. Or you mean starting projects that will be completed 33yrs later.

68816419:
Forget about the highways, even their inter cities roads aint dualized, every states in Nigeria are dualizing their roads, Maiduguri is dualizing 16 roads, Kaduna state is dualizing 22 roads in Kafancha, 23 in zaria and 34 in Kaduna capital.

Who is nuts to go swim in a ocean overflowing with sewage- even for Ghanians - that too much of health risk

Most Nairobeans go to Mombasa in their thousands to enjoy the pristine beaches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFhUqN3arjI

Just30:
even in festive season, Ghanaian beaches dont hold that kind of waste.


Its obvious that the waste was dumped there

Our oceans do not have sewage

Ghana is not kenya where sewage flows everywhere.


Kenyan towns are overflowing in uncollected waste

Those are murram roads in rural kenya.

Just30:
so now you dont limit your road weighing to 70 tons anymore because I showed that Ghana limitsload weight to 60 tons and plans to reduce it to 51 tons?


Desperate kid


Ghana does not have completely broken down roads like Kenya where broken down roads to dirth and mud is normal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beBTs5jpMXs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0-ayqlLGf0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs8ItOfibe8

You're comparing festive season dumping - and Ghana oceans overflowing with sewage and garbage from town.

Just30:
The ocean bring those waste and sea weed from other countries during high tide and they immediately get cleaned


You wont find this in Ghana

See Kenyan coast heavily littered

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMMs466qVC4


Can kenyan beaches be this pristine?
Golden beach

Very dirty beaches. I can only imagine how it smell - and you want to compare to kenya world class beaches - the entire kenya coastline is to die for.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izlnFfJkzyY

Appisko:
Check out this a proper beach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvRuxbwcW_A

I was actually talking about Nigeria but I have seen your roads; they are the same with Ghana.

In kenya we strictly allow max tonnage of 48 tonnes - Gross Weight - and we strictly enforce the laws.

That our roads are not completely broken down like Ghana.

THIS one was shot 2hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRvG0XnZKQ

And this one is crazy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC_YYCiKyCU

Just30:
Sorry kiddo

We build all our highways to carry weigh at 60 tons and we are even working to bring it to 51 tons

So all our highways are in top notch while we have weigh bridges to check to make sure they stay in that weigh.

The fact that Kenya keep load weight at 70 tonnes does not mean everyone should choose same limit. our world class roads remain in tact.

Keep your ocean as clean as Kenyan beaches - by doing basic things. West Africa zoo!

Look at this - and tell me when you dirty landfill and sewage ocean will look like this - NOT in YOUR LIFETIME.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFbX8fUNDoc

Australia? How about Ghana world class oceans? Mombasa is big city - and it's beaches are pristine - because we are not a west africa zoo.

Look at your pathetic country and it's ocean. Ocean should be clear and blue. Atlantic ocean has been transformed into a landfill by west african zoos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBx7KFKwsmw

Just30:
drains do not carry sewage

I know kenya is a mess but not everywhere is a mess like that.

Go back and read what I wrote again and come and rewrite your comment.

I said this (waste an example from Australia)

Is Australia pathetic?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kISpelek_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faw8jntZy9I

It doesn't take long for kenya to fix road. That road is know super smooth. This not Nigeria. I tell you in Kenya the roads with potholes are countable in one hand. WE DO NOT HAVE ROADS WITH CRATERS like Nigeria.

This is the upgraded Sh7 billion Mwatate-Taveta (A23) road at the Coast.

It is part of the multinational Arusha-Holili/Taveta-Voi road corridor. It has opened up trade links between Kenya and Tanzania.

Roan77:
Just like you Kenyans has to pass through Tanzania to get to your home, because of bad roads?

Kenya steel demand/consumption should be around 2.7m now

Please teach us how 100M dollars is enough to maintain federal roads. 2ndly for god sake start even basic weight restriction on trucks. You are very similar to DRC Congo.

Roan77:
Shut up mad man, you know nothing.

Kenya road quality is very high - including murram all weather roads. We spend a lot to maintain our roads. Don't rush to build dual road then allow trucks weighing 70 tonnes to fry the road into potholes. It's even better to have murram roads.

Just30:
most of kenyan roads are not idealised either, intact most of them are not even tarred in the first place.

We have oceans in kenya - but if we let sewage and garbage flow that way - we'd lose all the tourist and the entire industry. You're pathetic if you're allowing all that garbage to flow into your ocean.

Just30:
You dont have brains to reason

Everywhere in the world where drains are directed into the ocean, a mechanism is created to ensure that garbage does not end up in the ocean.

So garbage is collected from there regularly.

Need another education?


Banning plastics when done will only end up making you waste collection crisis worse because your elected officials think that that is the solution to your waste problem.

- learn to build and MAINTAIN roads. Kenya road maintenance budget is 1.5B dollars. And here is Nigeria planning to spend 100M to maintain road in a country so large.


Nigeria plans $100mln investment for federal road maintenance in 2021. (Ecofin Agency) - Nigeria plans in its 2021 draft budget to invest N38 billion (about $100 million) for the maintenance of federal roads

Roan77:
That's the truth.
But you have a growing population, it's good to have a long term plans.

Watch your completely broken down road network. Slightly better than DRC CONGO

A journey that would take 48hrs take 78 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWDcQKW6FME

Roan77:
Man, not only that highway, and it doesn't matter the number of cars that use that road, every major highway in Kenya, Tanzania and Rwanda is single track road, like in Nigeria, every highways are dualized, both inner city roads are being dualized, but that's not the case in Kenya.

As of 2015 - kenya steel production was 0.6m - plus import of 1.5M - making total of 2m plus.

Kenya’s rolling mills, which included plants operated by Athi
Steel Ltd., Devki Steel Mills Ltd., and Mabati Rolling Mills
Ltd., produced about 600,000 metric tons per year (t/yr) of steel
products. The country also imported 1.53 million metric tons
(Mt) of iron and steel products in 2015 compared with about
1.2 Mt in 2014 and about 792,000 metric tons (t) in 2011. Recent
increases in production and imports of iron and steel products
were attributable to growth in the construction sector. In 2015, the
Government signed an agreement with Sinosteel Corp. of China
for the development of a new integrated steel plant with a capacity
of 2.5 million metric tons per year (Mt/yr). The Government and
Sinosteel were considering the development of domestic iron ore
deposits to supply the plant (Jiwaji, 2014; XNews, 2015; Kenya
National Bureau of Statistics, 2016a, p. 124).

So you have drain or rivers flowing to where all garbage is collected. Ingenious. You keep confirming our worst fears that their very little btw your ears.

Just30:
that's not a river but a drain. And it's not an issue because all the garbage ends up in a place where everything is collected to a recycling facility.

In Kenya, they dont get collected, because garbage collection is nonexistent.
And this is the real issue


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1az9qlnMAno&t=64s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnlUmOA5bck&t=82s

You're skirting the real issue. That river of garbage right in your city.

Just30:
All Ghanaian beaches are extremely clean with no trash

Regularly after high tides, the sea brings plastic bottles and sea weeds unto some shores and they immediately get clean up.

all the time when you post pics from kenyan neighbourhoods, its usually littered with trash

This is where Nigeria should focus on.

Shaytun:
The govt Released N30bn exclusively for South South and South East firms to increase palm plantation.

They funded new mills of PZ Wimar, Biase oil company ltd, Eyop, Okomu Oil company, Presco oil company and SIAT ltd , to increase palm oil production.