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What long time? South Africa was built on gold - and has collapsed without it. Gold built South Africa for like 100yrs. You were like the Saudi Arabia of Minerals. But look - you allowed the Jews to finish everything and leave you chasing Africans round if not stealing from each other.

All diamonds and gold went.

Now platinum - who cares about platinum. It's like your dirty coal.

Austine1213:
Nope gold has not been our largest export for a long time

Automobiles and platinum has been

You're splitting hairs m.oron. South Africa should be around there in urbanization - it a middle class - and as you like NIC. Ghana are still feeding on rodents as a delicacy.

Austine1213:
SA over 63%

But do you see any wealth - in Ghana? Gold is like minning money literally. They account only 9B dollars - while everyone is reporting more than twice that - from Ghana. And we haven't talked about Anglo Ashanti smuggling.

Tanzania claimed to have found Barrick Gold smuggling so much.

This is Ghana without even a GOLD REFINERY of serious note. It appears Anglo Ashanti still ships gold concentrate to South Africa.

TayserMahrii:
Yep actually they overtook SA and are Africa's largest gold producers. Yet Kumasi and Accra still look like extended villages.

Of course - but Ghana one - looks hideous.

Austine1213:
Each country has tons of those

The jews are done mining with all the gold. Start filling up the pits.

Austine1213:
Well actually, SA gold production has been declining

Kenya is right where it should be urbanization wise. You country has - I think thanks to military rule - shifted from rural areas to urban areas - mostly I bet for security.

Look at china - they are at 50-60% South Africa around them same. And these are middle-income countries.

Ghana, Nigeria, DRC congo and name any of those countries who face turmoil that forced people to shift to urban slums - are NOT developed.

Accra or Kumasi has the infrastructure of a city of 100K people.

Just30:
a huge country of poor people living in villages

that small estate ain't changing that fact.

I am serious...there is nothing artist about that building..it looks hideous. Here is kenya's artistic kind of places.

1) Nairobi National museum
2) National Theatre Nairobi

Just30:
Tantrums as usual

Exactly. Ghana has overtaken South Africa. Jews has shifted base. But Ghana looks so hideous. Gold and such precious metals built Southern Africa countries...despite the Jew taking like 95% of the cream.

But look at Ghana - world leading gold producer - and arguably one world poorest country.

Just look at pictures of Accra, Kumasi and their slumpolis. Nigeria look MILES ahead.

TayserMahrii:
No son. Ghana is supposed to look like Africa's second largest gold exporter. That right there is the pandora's box. The gold scam has just been the icing on the cake.

So a chinese can smuggle an escavator right inside the forest - but after getting the precious little gold - he will go and tell you Central Bank - here I found gold - tax me -

You and Vaxx are without a doubt the daftest people I had the misfortune of meeting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohrrE1rjzLo&t=42s

Just30:
The Chinese are labourers who gets paid monthly in the hair purchase agreement they have with mine owners for the use of heavy duties equipment they bring.

They've all been deported out of Ghana for engaging in illegal activities.

The Chinese cannot even dare enter a protected forest, they will get shot on site.

Nothing is wrong with West Africans, we exercise full control of our lands and resources unlike East Africa where you guys have become 3rd class citizens to the Indians Chinese and Brits

Watch the video - that is huge area - Kiambu is a county - what do you mean 30 homes.

samorobo:
Hahaha what a mediocre idiot. .I saw this video this morning after receiving my notification. .
This is just a mere housing estate with about 30 homes...stop being mediocre, you bush man

HIDEOUS. Is Ghana that bad.

vaxx:
Gh

Here is you Maya boy. Gold, Diamond and etc - are so tiny - you can smuggle serious gold in just a handbag.

If Chinese can "sneak" into the forest - with huge diggers and escavators - in people cooca farms - and you think - the Central Bank of Ghana has scanners in all exit - that detect gold being smuggled by Chinese

It like claiming no drugs can get in or out of any country.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFb7K0mc98A

You cannot control 5,000 Chinese entering with ESCVATORS and DIGGERS -but you can control tiny quantities of gold being smuggled in bags!

Are you Ghanians Cogentially daft. I have never seen such foolish people like I have seen of Ghanaians here.

You cannot even control a Chinese entering your f.cking PROTECTED forest with escavators and guns - and you think you can control how they smuggle the gold to gold exchanges in Switzerland, Dubai and China.

What is wrong with you West Africans Are you even humans or just primates?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9QzwKjMNsc

Just30:
it is called, poor journalistic reporting

because they cant get reports from the Bank of Ghana, they rely of the Minerals Commission whose data only captures 1.5 and sometimes 2 million ounces of gold mined per annum out of 5 million

Dubai is even worse. Dubai reports about 17B dollars from Africa - with about 5B thought to be from Ghana - as discrepancy btw what those countries report as gold exports - and what is actually sold in gold exchanges.

TayserMahrii:
Liar par excellence. You claimed Ghana doesnt lose a dime from Gold and I just showed you experts saying you actually lose a heck of a lot of money. Thats just one of the bigger lies you have told today. The best evidence is from Swiss, where Gold imports from Ghana are recorded at 7 B while in Ghana its less than half that at 3 B.

In short you're embarrassed to post your slumpolis.

Just30:
hehehe

Sorry we don't have slums here or the 3 that exist do not have a bearing to our general society.

Your multitude of slums only in Nairobi are so much of an eye sore such that University students come there to understudy them so that it never springs up in their cities.

#slumTourism

We have been asking pictures of your Slumpolis or videos - and we have seen nothing but slums. Share pictures or videos...

Just30:
this one is dumb

Akosombo is a whole town of 68,000 people or so. And they all live in better housing than what is in that video.

At any given time, VRA staffs in Akosombo do not exceed 50.

2.5 million Kiambu people of nairobi live in villages without electricity and water. Building a few 50 2 bedroom and one bedroom housing units will not change their poor living condition.

MI16 are not police but CIA - Secret Intelligence. Police is for internal security. Why would you need them a Gestapo?

Just30:
then the UK and Germany arebsnana republic



Too bay Kenya does not have an intelligence agency
And terrorists are roaming freely


A team banana Republic

Just because you have small housing estate in Akosombo dam for electricity workers - cannot me an you can compare with Kiambu - with 2.5M people - which form of Nairobi Metro.

Just30:
this small thing in some village of Nairobi and you want to compare it Ghana or Nigeria


Boy, those housing can only be compared to housing 60km or so outside of Accra in Akosombo.

What you have in Nairobi is smaller than what exist in Akosombo

Do you even have army. I told you entire budget for security sector cannot even finance our Intelligence Officers. Your army basically dependent on Koffi Annan for gigs in United Nations.

Kenya army of 25,000 with budget of 1.2B dollars is one of Africa best.

Our paramilitary police can beat you army 10 NIL. No doubt about that.

Just30:
Your army is like our road safety police.

The Ghanaian army is better equips than the Kenyan militia that run to hide when when ever Kenya is attacked.

When politicalinstitutions fail, we rely on the disciplineof the military to continue with the activitiesof governance to ensure continuation of government.

The gahanian military is far discipline than all security institutionsin kenya that see neutralising of kenyans as their one and only duty.


Even comparing kenya bandits dressed in military parafelia to Ghana militaryis an insult to the Ghanaian military.

Only a banana republic has secret police. Secret Intelligence yes. In any case your police are so useless the army do basic stuff.

Just30:
and the USA have the NSA and CIA. Bottom line is, they all carry out similar duties.
The banana republic of Kenya does not and hence why terrorists are freely roaming your streets.

Nairobi Metro alone is better than anything in Nigeria or Ghana.

Kiambu county


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwrP0H_hkoU

Our police forces are corrupt and indisciplined - but your Army is basically like our police force - and like they have done severally - when they took power - they are the biggest threat to your existences.

You army are like Nigeria - a militia that are out there harrasing civilians. They beat up your police force . They were expelled in South Sudan recently for raping 36 womens.

This can never happen in Kenya and many countries - deploying Military to deal with COVID-19

This latest news..

Residents in the Kumasi Metropolis and its environs will remember Friday, March 27 2020, as a day on which indiscipline attitudes were met with radical responses from personnel of the Ghana Army during the turn of the metropolis for disinfection of markets there in the wake of the spread of the coronavirus disease to the country..

Just30:
meant to happen

Kenyans don't have rights
They live in a totalitarian banana republic.

If even a single Ghanaian had lost his life at the hands of police, the entire police institution will be sued.

In Kenya - a great deal of that is secret - Security Committee swear an oath to secrecy and all the records are redacted. The media do get an hand of them once in a while - but generally some items are redacted or hidden even for the audit or parliament.

There is a great deal of corruption in the entire Kenya security sector because of this.

We need to get to South Africa advanced level.

jl115:
interesting.... I can literally download the entire SANDF financial statements anytime and see exactly what our budget is spent on everything from salaries to acquisitions.

If you search for Kenya auditor general and military - you'll find some many scandals unearthed. Only in Ghana and Nigeria with history of coups do the military enjoy IMPUNITY.

Example 1.

The office of the Auditor General after an audit of the books on military expenditure at the Department of Defense (DoD) for the financial year 2013-2014 has discovered among other things that department of defense has no record to substantiate millions of money used to finance trips of its officers, pay per diems and clear said military goods from Mombasa.
https://www.kenyans.co.ke/news/kenyan-military-fresh-scandal-misuse-millions-public-funds

Even in Kenya - Defence forces had tried to ring-fenced certain budget lines - but Kenya Judiciary ruled everything is auditable.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Auditor-General-free-to-audit-security-organs/539546-4307614-fcj1cy/index.html

jl115:
I don't have to google sh1t to know that a defence force should be audited like any other institution.

The SANDF for one does not have a black budget.... Anything that can not be traced is listed as wasteful expenditure!!

This is how it works in SA anyway!

Public knows. Parliament knows a lot more. Parliament sub committee on security (who have to take a oath) get to know nearly all of it. The defence ministry and president obviously know everything.

The auditor-general is free to audit the entire budget.

Military generals get indicted for corruption and are fired.

For example: Auditor General Edward Ouko has queried the purchase of 32 Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs) by the Kenya Defence Forces at Sh1.1 billion.

Just30:
Now you are contracdicting yourself

you moved from only parliament knows the breakdown.



Ghana's parliament approve budgets in whole and not their breakdowns


The only BANAN republic that Africa knows in Kenya.
Nothing works there.



Here, Our Defence Ministry has it own budget
National security has it own budget
Secret police has their black budget, they can do anything with it based on laws of allocation.

In your 60 yrs of existence...half was under military dictatorship. You're known for being better than Nigeria.

The public KNOWS and ought to know how the taxes is spent.

What is a secret is how the money is spent....but everyone knows what the Ministry of Defence, Internal Security, and various security organs have been allocated.

vaxx:
slowpoke , I just illustrate what a commoner is expected to know from millitary expenditure or security apparatus And that is how it is done in advanced nation, parliament or congress are the only body expected to know how it works not you the commoner. Exposing the financial service of security service to the public eye is like putting the nation directly into the hands of an enemy.


YOUR country is not known when it comes to the rule of law and freedom of speech in Africa. Ghana is a house hold name ( democratically or freedom of speech). You can swallow your shame for the rest.

Exactly. That mirrors Kenya. You cannot have rogue military without civilian oversight.

Mzal3ndo:
What I have seen whith most countries including Tanzania, there is a parliamentary committee on intelligence and security which receive a report from the auditor general about military spending. The President, Minister of Defense and the interior ministers all receive reports depending on their jurisdiction. The President's office and the parliament committee on security and intelligence receives reports from all the security organs in the country, although not made public these two can question and scrutinize the report and advice the government (President ) on what to do based on the report.

Your total security budget that I saw was 550M Ghana cedis. That is like 100M dollars. You're hidding behind black budget because we know you spend very little in security.

So much 5,000 Chinese gangs have invaded your country and carted away gold worth 5B dollars every year for 10yrs.

That is a whopping 50B dollars gone to Chinese gangs. They go back to China and build their cities with your money. And then Anglo Ashanti is doing the rest...I doubt you have intelligence enough to figure out the Jews gangs.

At least South Africa used their gold to build Johannesburg - but look at Ghana - your biggest town is hideous.

Just30:
You are misunderstanding the argument you yourself raised.

You said the breakdown of your security budget is only know by parliament.
And you earlier said your CIA budget is 200M (meaning its made up since you dont know what is allocated to them)

And I told you that, the budget for BNI which is the civilian arm of Ghana Secret Police is more than your CIA budget which you made up.
And that our secret police itself has a black budget.
Parliament knows about the black budget but they cant break it down.

When they count democracies in Africa, Kenya is not part because you guys practise a flawed democracy.

Let me tell you about Kenya.

The public KNOW the total budget for security sector - including major breakdowns.

The parliament's budget committee and security committee get to see the breakdown - because they have to approve it.

The money goes to the budget controller - and she get to see how the money is spent - but the military or security - don't need to disclose what they buy.The IFMIS - Public Finance MIS - will have military and security spending.

The military has an internal audit. The internal security are under Auditor-General.

The Auditor-General will get to audit the security budget. They can be denied access to somethings but generally they get to see the big picture.

Parliament PAC - Accounts Committee - can summon civilian oversight of military - in kenya we have defence ministry with Minister/Cabinet Secretary and PS - to answer queries regarding security budget.

So there is a great deal of oversight.

What you're describing in Ghana is BANANA republic.

Just30:
You are misunderstanding the argument you yourself raised.

You said the breakdown of your security budget is only know by parliament.
And you earlier said your CIA budget is 200M (meaning its made up since you dont know what is allocated to them)

And I told you that, the budget for BNI which is the civilian arm of Ghana Secret Police is more than your CIA budget which you made up.
And that our secret police itself has a black budget.
Parliament knows about the black budget but they cant break it down.

When they count democracies in Africa, Kenya is not part because you guys practise a flawed democracy.

You're just a banana republic. Military and security is audited in most modern countries. In kenya Auditor General can and does audit the military. The audit doesn't have to be revealed to the public. But if army is found to have being corrupted - the ministry of defence (civilian) - will ask the general to take actions - or they will get fired.

Civilian oversight of the military is common in modern countries but countries like Ghana or Nigeria where the military are a rule unto themselves. Their militia has to be bribed to stay in the barracks.

vaxx:
Mr idiot, Google up black budget.

The line item is that you can see (everyone can see) the amount spent, but not on what or whom or where it is covertly taken from or even the amount taken from them - the details are secret, excerpt from those who are in position of authority.

Auditing millitary and national intelligence of a nation is not similar like that of your bedroom. It is never an open system.

Continue praying for oil. I heard you break-even price is 57 dollars.

samorobo:
Lol at them hater.. inhave breaking news that would bruise your heart...

Oil is now at $40 per barrel and we are $10 away from returning to the normal $50 per barrel pre covid19...
I envisage about about $55 mid July..