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Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:47pm On Jun 08, 2020
Nailed it.
kikuyu1:
Errrr, no, actually. Btw, why do you WAs uniformly make such definitive pronouncements on such subjective matters? I'VE noticed its merely one of your many unlikable characteristic. Many, if not most regularly interrupt our productivity with loud exclamations to behold "the biggest/best/prettiest/richest/largest" etc, etc. We lose 5 mns only to be constantly confronted with the most pedestrian/ underwhelming/ banal and ordinary like this chick. Of the thousand of female journos in Africa she's the hottest; really?
BOOOOO!? Nigga, she ain't all that.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:39am On Jun 08, 2020
Which cities were left? Lagos and Accra looked better than most cities in Africa at independence. The rot is your own making
vankelvin:
Dream on

East African countries can only boast of the Cities your Slave masters left you but come to West Africa and you will see Cities that ''were and are'' being build by Blacks not slave Masters.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:49am On Jun 08, 2020
Yes, I think rural developments, can provide nearly the same amenities like you have in urban areas.
Kazikazi:
Most folks in Africa can't differentiate between urban and rural stuff! I saw many folks in some parts in Africa being regarded as urbanites but lacks basic stuff like electricity, portable water and paved roads.While at the same time those who are in rural has all electricity they need,clean water and roads.

Some people think urban is all about having more people stacked in one place
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:26am On Jun 08, 2020
What is the problem being rural? and having 70% slum population like in most Africa cities? Rural development can lift many out of poverty.
Austine1213:
90% rwanda is rural
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:24am On Jun 08, 2020
Yes, East Africa for the last 20-30yrs have consistently grown at around 7% - and that growth is not resources based like West and rest of Africa - it that kind of broad-based growth that has lifted many out of poverty. Ethiopia used to be the biggest laggard but they have woken up. West Africa is now in a serious mess because they are dependant on natural resources.

In terms of instability - Central Africa is in a big mess - starting from congo all the way to CAR.

So North Africa>South Africa>East Africa>West Africa and finally Central Africa -

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Carte_Afrique_CAF.png

Kazikazi:
Yes,Mauritius and syschelles are a fraction of the whole eastern African region,but again,if we count the number of poor folks in west Africa vs east Africa, west will have more poor folks. If we check simple things like planned and better cities,east will have more numbers of those cities.
What I noticed here is,more guys forgets about Mauritius and syschelles when talking about east africa,that's why u will hear a blanket statements.. " east Africa is the anus..".
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:42am On Jun 08, 2020
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/06/big-trouble-as-more-nigerians-sink-deeper-into-poverty/
Abohboy:
It’s not tripling infact 7 million people have been taken out of poverty since 2016, and after this whole covid recessionn the massive investments in agriculture will pay off.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:50am On Jun 08, 2020
At least you don't suffer from giant delusional temptation. But 7-10 yrs is a bit ambitious when poverty is tripling in Nigeria.+
Abohboy:
I’m going to have to disagree with you having lived in both Nigeria and South Africa and visited Lagos, Abuja, Cape town, durban and johannesburg I will have to say that those cities are better than anything nigeria has to offer. The slums are smaller, the roads are better, the water supply is constant same for the power supply, the buildings are maintained, bigger and better malls, we might get there in about 7-10 years but for now we don’t compare to South African cities
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:39am On Jun 08, 2020
Learn the difference btw an ill-informed opinion and a fact.

A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence.

There is no Nigeria city that is near anything we have in Southern Africa.

forgiveness:
Abuja is far better than Durban, Port Elizabeth and Bloemfontein. Fact

Lagos is far more developed than any city in South Africa save Johannesburg. Fact.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:09pm On Jun 07, 2020
Brazil are at the apex. Don't celebrate so soon.
Acadavah:
The disease is over in Tz. You should open Churches, Mosques and temples like us then the disease will go.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:33pm On Jun 07, 2020
Mzalendo - how are you holding up with COVID-19 in your little Magufulistan? There seem to be total media blackout.
Mzal3ndo:
Tanzanian smiling at the list then remembering they are also in East Africa.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:24pm On Jun 07, 2020
You cannot decide which event is the most important smiley All Olympic events are important human achievement and you have zero gold, zero silver, and only 3 bronze. Don't check kenya stats.

Heck you don't feature in 100m top 100 of all times. At least one or two Nigerians is there.

Just30:
https://www.worldathletics.org/world-rankings/100m/men?regionType=world&page=1&rankDate=2020-03-31&limitByCountry=0

World Athletics says all Kenya efforts in the most important game of theirs is not up to the records that were set by countries like RSA, NGA and GHA.
That is why, for the first 4 pages, Kenya is not listed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:22pm On Jun 07, 2020
Hobbit that is some obscure ranking - Men's 100m (50m-55m-60m) - in some obscure months. That is scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

You probably don't feature I bet in 100M hall of fame.

There are only two events -100 and 200m - where we are not there - the rest we are in there - in big time.

When you talk about "hungry" - where are you in rugby? boxing? Where kenya beat you blue.

Just30:
grin grin grin

https://www.worldathletics.org/world-rankings/100m/men?regionType=world&page=1&rankDate=2020-03-31&limitByCountry=0

This is for you, Even in the only sport your hungry souls can engage in, RSA, NGA and GHA dominate in the Hall of fame.

We started this thing long before you guys
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:17pm On Jun 07, 2020
LOL which Althetics hall of Fame will exclude Kenya. I think you gave us a some list of 100m smiley

Kenya is a WORLD athletic giant. Maybe just two events where we don't feature much - 100ms and 200ms.

The rest from 400m to 42Kms (marathon) we DOMINATE - THE WORLD.

IAAF hall of Fame - has Kenya and Ethiopia - Kipchoge Keino and Abebe Bikila - in Africa.

NO other country
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAAF_Hall_of_Fame

Just30:
All this noise wont save you
The most important game in men Athletics Hall of fame, Kenya is not recognised and for 5 pages long
South Africa, Nigeria and Ghana dominate Africa
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:14pm On Jun 07, 2020
That was already done - and Kenya is Africa's giant. Ghana you are probably no 30 in Africa.

Zero gold, Zero silver. Just 3 bronze in 60yrs of participating in Olympics - just how untalented are you?

And you want me to look at the least of half-nots.

Kenya is a WELL KNOWN SPORTING GIANT>

Just30:
I can also list all the medals Ghanaians have won in all track and field events but the it is not necessary .

Did you even see the World Athletics Hall of Fame ranking that ranking that i posted?

You can go argue with those facts. grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:08pm On Jun 07, 2020
Kenya dominates Africa swimming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqh0LRP4a0
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:05pm On Jun 07, 2020
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:03pm On Jun 07, 2020
These west africans smiley are something; I am not seeing any beauty here.
Acadavah:
In Africa?That's a bold statement to say.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:57pm On Jun 07, 2020
Rubgy - Kenya sevens - plays world-class rugby. We sometimes beat the likes of New Zealand All Blacks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8xyTURaKEQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCIfTbZTo1A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg-oU_jhcM8

Kenya reached 99 points their highest ever and Willy Ambaka making the HSBC series first ever dream team. Ombachi and Oscar Ouma making also making dream team in some of the legs. Kenya reaching their second ever Cup Final knocking out SouthAfrica and New Zealand And of Course their first ever win against fiji in HSBC series.
(This is a compiltion of several clips)
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:55pm On Jun 07, 2020
Cycling - Chris Froome - Born and bred in Nairobi - until he went to South Africa - represented kenya

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw0tVcgQeTA
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:54pm On Jun 07, 2020
Crickets -Kenya's best performance at the Cricket World Cup was in 2003, where they reached the semi-finals.

Hockey - we have been 4th in world cup.

Volleyball girls - we have always represented Africa in world cup.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:52pm On Jun 07, 2020
Go to Motor Rally WRC - Kenyan safari rally- Kenya dominated so much they had to take it - from WRC - and are now bringing it back after 18yrs.

996 Tommi Makinen / Seppo Harjanne FIN / FIN Mitsubishi Lancer EVO II WRC
1995 Yoshio Fujimoto / Arne Hertz JPN / SWE Toyota Celica Turbo 4WDL WRC
1994 Ian Duncan / Dave Williamson KEN / KEN Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD WRC
1993 Juha Kankkunen / Juha Piironen FIN / FIN Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD WRC
1992 Carlos Sainz / Lius Moya ESP / ESP Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD WRC
1991 Juha Kankkunen / Juha Piironen FIN / FIN Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v WRC
1990 Bjorn Waldergard / Fred Galagher SWE / GBR Toyota Celica GT-Four ST165 WRC
1989 Miki Biason / Tizino Siviero ITA / ITA Lancia Delta HF Integrale WRC
1988 Miki Biason / Tizino Siviero ITA / ITA Lancia Delta HF Integrale WRC
1987 Hannu Mikola / Arne Hertz FIN / SWE Audi 200 Quattro WRC
1986 Bjorn Waldergard / Fred Gallagher SWE / GBR Toyota Celica TCT WRC
1985 Juha Kankunnen / Fred Gallagher FIN / GB Toyota Celica TCT WRC
1984 Bjorn Waldegard / Hans Thorszelius SWE / SWE Toyota Celica TCT WRC
1983 Ari Vatanen / Terry Harryman FIN / GBR Opel Ascona 400 WRC
1982 Shekhar Mehta / Mike Daughty KEN / KEN Datsun Violet GT WRC
1981 Shekhar Mehta / Mike Daughty KEN / KEN Datsun Violet GT WRC
1980 Shekhar Mehta / Mike Daughty KEN / KEN Datsun 160J WRC
1979 Shekhar Mehta / Mike Daughty KEN / KEN Datsun 160J WRC
1978 Jean-Pierre Nichola / Jean -Claude Lefebvre FRA / FRA Peugeot 504 V6 Coupe FISA
1977 Bjorn Waldegard / Hans Thorszelius SWE / SWE Ford Escort RS1800 FISA
1976 Joginder Singh / David Doig KEN / KEN Lancer 1600 GSR FISA
1975 Ove Andersson / Arne Hertz SWE / SWE Peugeot 504 FISA
1974 Joginder Singh / David Doig KEN / KEN Colt Lancer 1600GSR FISA
1973 Shekahr Mehta / Lofty Drews KEN / KEN Datsun 240Z FISA
1972 Hannu Mikola / Gunnar Palm FIN / SWE Ford Escort RS 1600 1MC EAC
1971 Edgar Herrmann / Hans Schuller KEN / GER Datsun 240Z EAC
1970 Edgar Herrmann / Hans Schuller KEN / GER Datsun 1600 SSS EAC
1969 Robin Hillyar / Jock Aird KEN / KEN Ford Taunus 20M RS EAC
1968 Nick Nowicki / Paddy Cliff KEN / KEN Peugeot 404 EAC
1967 Bert Shankland / Chris Rothwell TZA / TZA Peugeot 404 EAC
1966 Bert Shankland / Chris Rothwell TZA / TZA Peugeot 404 EAC
1965 Joginder Singh / Jaswant Singh KEN / KEN Volvo PV 544 EAC
1964 Peter Hughes / Bill Young KEN / KEN Ford Cortina GT EAC
1963 Nick Nowicki / Paddy Cliff KEN / KEN Peugeot 404 EAC
1962 Tommy Flasjad / Bernhard Schimder KEN / KEN Volkswagen 1200 EAC
1961 John Manussis / Bill Coleridge/David Bekett KEN / KEN Mercedes Benz-220 SE EAC
1960 Bill Fritschy / Jack Ellis KEN / KEN Mercedes Benz 219 EAC
1959 Bill Fritschy / Jack Ellis KEN / KEN Mercedes Benz 219 EAC
1958 Arne Kopperund / Morris Temple / Mike Armstrong KEN / KEN Ford EAC
1957 Gus Hofmann / Arthur Burton KEN / KEN DKW EAC
1956 Erick Cecil / Tony Vickers KEN / KEN DKW EAC
1955 Vic Preston Snr / DP Marwaha KEN / KEN Ford Zephyr EAC
1954 DP Marwaha / Vic Preston Snr KEN / KEN Volkswagen Beetle EAC
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:43pm On Jun 07, 2020
I tell you outside football - you don't exist - can't even play rugby football? We beat you in nearly all the rest of discipline netball, volleyball, hockey, swimming, cycling, tennis, boxing, name it.

Where kenya struggle - like track and field - we are struggling against WORLD STANDARDS - not African standards.

I doubt if Ghana has ever won Olympic gold in anything.

Yes I checked zero gold, zero silver, just 1 bronze. What can you tell Kenya?

Just on track and field athletes like Julius Yego (Javelin) has won more than all your althetes in 60yrs

Silver medal – second place 2016 Rio de Janeiro Javelin throw
World Championships
Gold medal – first place 2015 Beijing Javelin throw
Commonwealth Games
Gold medal – first place 2014 Glasgow Javelin throw
All-Africa Games
Gold medal – first place 2011 Maputo Javelin throw
African Championships
Gold medal – first place 2012 Porto Novo Javelin throw
Gold medal – first place 2014 Marrakech Javelin throw
Gold medal – first place 2018 Asaba Javelin throw
Bronze medal – third place 2010 Nairobi Javelin throw

Swimming - Jason Dunford.

During his swimming career he was predominantly a butterfly and freestyle sprinter winning gold medals at the Commonwealth Games, Universiade, All-Africa Games and African Championship[/b]s, and r[b]eaching finals at the Olympics, World Championships and Short Course World Championships. He also held African, Universiade and Olympic records.


Just30:
good day kid

i ain't got time for useless arguments, especially on a Sunday.

Wikipedia is not updated regularly , i suggest you go get a real source to quote.

Your country basically don't have the infrastructure to any track and field competition.

Your sports stadiums look like secondary schools football field in Ghana.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 1:15pm On Jun 07, 2020
This year alone we were set to host two world events. WRC rally and IAAF U20. These are world events. What can we discuss with Ghana when it come to sports outside football?

Even for Hockey - Ghana is nowhere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana_men%27s_national_field_hockey_team
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenya_men%27s_national_field_hockey_team

Just30:
is WRC a marathon competition?

When did we arrive at the winning of competitions?
You are always running all around the place around conversation grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:55am On Jun 06, 2020
GDP (nominal) sub-Sahara according to IMF - Kenya now the 3rd - Ghana bigger than Tanzania. Big asterik on that - and of course Nigeria overcooked data.

Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:52pm On Jun 05, 2020
Now that you have exhausted minerals - you are growing at -1 or 1 %. South Africa is going down.
Austine1212:
Countries moving to service economy and you still thinking of extractions as the it thing lol

Anyway what do i know lol
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:33pm On Jun 05, 2020
KTDA is model is of small holder farming and rural development - at least in Africa nothing come close. Just like nothing come close to Kenya Cooperative movements.

Kenyans are hard on themselves but what we have done without any minerals - with minimal arable land - is incredible.

kikuyu1:
Thanks! Effort. Trial. Truly Kenyan. Effn beautiful!
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:28pm On Jun 05, 2020
This was way before Kenya overtook India and China in tea exports


When Charles Karanja joined the Kenya Tea Development Authority (KTDA) in 1964, it was small and young but firmly established. Its structure had been deeply influenced by the historical moment of its creation. Although the organization was to take on additional features in the future, it kept most of its initial structural characteristics. These were a major factor in its accomplishments.

The KTDA is a success by almost any criteria of assessment. In 1959 the 1,000 hectares of tea grown by some 5,000 smallholders produced only one-fifteenth as much as Kenya's multinational tea estates. In 1980 the KTDA was servicing 130,000 growers with 50,000 hectares (110,000 acres), sold half of the country's tea exports, and had come to represent 5 percent of the international market. In the process the KTDA probably has become the world's largest tea corporation.

The KTDA also excelled in quality. In 1959 Kenyan teas commanded prices 14 percent below the average London price; by 1971 they brought the world's highest prices, at 6 percent above the average. This leadership in quality has been maintained ever since.

The organization has been immensely profitable for Kenya and its growers. The World Bank estimated that the KTDA achieved a 28 per-



rvp2018:
What I can tell you is the glorious story of Africa smallholder farming that not only overtook big farms in Kenya (South Africans cannot comprehend this) but has overtaken the world.

Check smallholder tea production in kenya in 1963.

And compare with NOW. It's staggering!

And with that we have some of the most developed rural places.

I know for most of these bozos they cannot imagine a rural place so developed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:24pm On Jun 05, 2020
Loolk at South Africa - and all they had is nothing more than what Ghana has. But if you're an idiot - contended to eat cane-rat as a delicacy - you'll continue eating rats.
Torture2020:
grin whether kenya has or does not have mineral resources, why is he angry with Ghana because it has mineral resources? Is it Ghana’s fault that it has mineral resources and Kenya doesn’t have? grin the whole thing doesn’t make sense to me? grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:19pm On Jun 05, 2020
Exactly. The guy who started it all Karanja nailed it. Mureithi nailed it for livestock but he somehow lost the plot. Botswana then nailed the beef industry. It could have been Kenya. The mad cow and all that has killed our livestock sector..now we would be exporting the best beef abroad.

You should read about Charles Karanja role in KTDA.
https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft8p3008fh&chunk.id=d0e3782&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d0e3425&brand=ucpress

kikuyu1:
Fyi, many people have tried to replicate the KTDA biz model from small holder support to farmer owned factory owned processing and final marketing.
Saffas, Rwandese, Ugs even Naijjans have been here understudying KTDA operations but have FAILED! Even when managers are sent as expats like one sent to Rwanda told me. Its just impossible to develop the right synergy among all the players.
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:18pm On Jun 05, 2020
I don't have a mother? I have a mother.
vaxx:
Ask your mother?
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:15pm On Jun 05, 2020
So many? Nigeria is leading in so many. We have poverty in Kenya. Extreme poverty. About 1/3 of Kenyan suffer-normal poverty. That is like 15m kenyans. Nigeria is about 10 times that 150m people.

But obviously kenya without minerals or oil or name it has done well -

As for Chinese - they only gave us a rail-line - that in my view is viable and will pay for itself. The gov is more a guarantor and because it will pay for itself the kenya railway corporation will handle chinese..

Torture2020:
So tell me, why are so many people suffering in Kenya today? Poverty, Hunger and starvation is a major problem in that zoo? Upon all that Kenya is owing the Chinese big time! That is the interesting part. Because I see the Chinese taking over your sh1thole soon. A country with the largest slum in Africa has nothing to boast about, buddy. grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:06pm On Jun 05, 2020
What is the name of your new state...Biafra or Boko Haram.
vaxx:
What are you saying ?

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