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Basic 101 To SPOT COOKED DATA; TRY TO CROSS-REFERENCE and Then COMPARE WITH ADVANCED COUNTRIES i.e South Africa.

Let try Electricity in South Africa.

Total population is about 56M. Average family size is about 3.2 - south Africa roughly have 17.5M households.

How many customers does ESKOM have in South Africa 16.5M? Let us assume all these are households - we know huge part of these are office & industrial power.

What is their electricity access rate 16.5/17.5M =95% access rate? Based on this we now know roughly a million South Africa households don't have power...or 3 million people.

Now go and get the figure from South Africa Statistic offices. If the figure doesn't play around there - THEN SOMEBODY COOKING DATA.

COOKING DATA FOR POLITICIANS SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE FEEL GOOD FALSE IMPACT.

South Africa's electricity access rate is 86% - Which is about right - if you consider those yet to be reached are rural communities with larger family sizes - than average family size of 1-2 in cities.

NOBODY CAN ACCUSE SOUTH AFRICA OF COOKING THEIR DATA. THEY CROSS-REFERENCE. KNBS also does cross-reference household survey data and what utility data says.

You cannot just publish CRAP LIKE NIGERIA DOES EVERYDAY. VERIFT VERIFT VERIFY

Which article is this that is making you lose your mind I believe in empirical as opposed to anecdotal evidence? I can quote myself but that won't be helpful.

vaxx2:
Honest reply ... so don't be carried away emotionally when my reply get laced with insult and fact. I don't hide feelings for stupid responses.... but do as much as better to used your head instead of rely heavily on articule .

But all your electricity distribution companies - household customers are 3.7M only - In a country with an estimated 6.5M HOUSEHOLDs. Ghana is about 29M people - with an average household having 4.5 people.

Now explain to me why your electricity distribution companies do not have at least 6.5m customers? Or there are people sharing meters?

Otherwise, the data from Ghana Energy Commission doesn't cross-reference with Ghana Statistics Office - alluding to cooking or simply wrongly methodology by your stats office.

http://www.energycom.gov.gh/files/ENERGY_STATISTICS_2019_Updated.pdf


Page 21:
Table 3.14: Grid Electricity Customer Population
Source: ECG/PDS, ENCLAVE POWER & NEDCo;

Contradicts Page 22.
Table 3.16: Electricity Access Rate (%)
Source : Ghana Statistical Services, Ministry of Energy and the Energy Commission.

Just30:
In Ghana

all households are connected and metered
even in the villages and they receive 24/7 electricity unless maintenance outage or power has to be shut down because of a storm.


the only parts of Ghana that are not connected yet are overseas villages.

when we say 90% of our country is connected
we mean 90% is connected and the power is available to them.

no house gets connected without meter.

You like lying. VALCO sells power directly to mining and large industries - and they also sell to your three distros. I mean the distros are the one that sell directly to consumers.

Just30:
valco used to

when it was running at full capacity

not now

When I say Nigeria is a zoo - It not something that I take lightly. I have carefully examined the facts. But i can change my mind if you can convince me that poverty capital is crawling out of the hole. I also honestly use to think Ghana was great - until KaziKazi jab about their shitty looking cities - jolted me. I only knew from background their trouble with Cedis and last IMF bailout. When I started researching - I was surprised this was 16th bailout. I was also very curiously aware of their 5yr re-basing.


ANyway I think Nigeria versus Kenya is done and dusted. We have loop so many times there is no new argument. It just repition after every 200 pages.

theenchanter:
unfortunately, u reek of the exact opposite of d bolded.

I know Ghana electricity access according to your Yemi kale (Ghana Stats Office ) is 85%. That is basis of that number that everyone quote - HOUSEHOLD SURVEYS BY YOUR NATIONAL STATS. But I am telling you for free - you cannot have only 3.7M household connected to electricity according to your power utlity companies and claim you've reach 85%. So there is a problem - with Ghana Statistics - because the data doesn't CROSS-reference with metered customers of your electricity utility company. Unless you mean about 3M Ghanians are illegally connected to the grid or are on off grid (solar systems).

A number of customers has to match the number of households - you have 6.5M households in Ghana with 3.7M connected to the main grid. Your real electricity access to the main grid therefore is about 55%.

In Kenya, we have about 12m households with about 8M connected to the main grid. Mean we still need to cover 4M households. Our real electricity access - at least to the main grid - is 65%.

vaxx2:
i swear you are an idiot.

No reasonable person should take this motor park economist serious again, he lacks basic understanding of fact. I am sure to hell , he never understand what he post here nor did he understand the articule himself

not interested in going low with you.. ..so i shift....

Nope before re-basing, you need 11,500 CEDIS to get a dollar- or 10,000/1= That is five-figure. : containing five numerical figures . In any case your currency is annually weakening at nearly 15% now.

Just30:


this your head
shouldnt you go and see a doctor

11,500
is 11 cedis 50 pesewas

Once you have IMF monkey off your back - come and tell us about your social services - otherwise, I imagine the first business when IMF have come (16 times) is to cut all those social spendings. Development can only happen when you sustain something for a generation or two.

In Kenya we have National Health Insurance fund - and we are also starting Universal Health Care - 4 counties were on pilot and It going national this year. Of course we have many private health insurance for middle class.

NHIF now covers well over 8M households - or about 30M people out of 47M. NHIF covers both outpatient and inpatient in both private, mission and public hospitals....coverage includes even cancer.

Now those 17M will be covered by Universal Health Care - basically they pay nothing in public hospitals.

vaxx2:
Go read about Ghana health insurance scheme online ..... avoid Ghana news (Don't trust it) read the international news regarding it...

in Ghana we don't borrow to pay debt, we borrow to fund social development. and surprisingly , more money is coming locally, Yesterday was a bless day for Ghana as the country strike another 1.2 billion barrels of oil with excess GAS capacity .. ..

A truce for what?- there is no enmity that I harbor against Nigerians or Ghanaians or any other country - people shouldn't personalize facts about a country. We are here to debate who is better so hopefully someone can learn something. This is not an e-war. We are here to have honest conversations - debunk the lies - to critical examine and compare countries. Yes some facts about our countries can make us angry - but direct the anger mostly to the political and leaderdship class - and some to ourselves - because look at this - we are all nearly equally poor in SSA.

vaxx2:
Only if Rvp stop lying .....

Don't be ignorant. There are no arabs in Kenya hinterlands. They live along the coast. Kenya tea industry consist of small holder farmers numbering 0.5M. It also consist of handful multinationals with plantation like Uniliver.

So think about your cocoa industry - cocoa smallholders farms (0.8M) - and the Nestle large farms.

I think Cocoa farming in Ghana is good example of successfully rural smallholder farming in Africa - Just like Kenya tea sector.

Don't wear ignorance like a badge of honor.

O.8M cocoa farmers in Ghana - representing 60% of all farmers - earn 2.6B dollars from cocoa industry - and while 0.5M kenyans earn 1.5B from selling black tea.

Just30:
so all your shouting

0.5 million people are slaving themselves on Arabs little tea farms ?

in Ghana ordinary people own their farms.

Cement consumption of 5.2M is hardly anything to shout about - if you're using some of it to build roads.
HDI - 0.001 greater than kenya.
GDP per capita - COOKED - by 25% - in a suspicious rebase five years after another.

What real estate are we talking about in Ghana? Pouring cement is not real estate. It's Construction.

There is big difference btw Real Estate and Construction.

Just30:
Ghanaians dont need to prove shit


The HDI is there
the per capital is there
the real estate's figures are staggeringly overwhelming you guys

both Tanzania and Kenya can combine their cement consumption and you'll still not match the consumption of Ghana


meaning the development in both countries combined lacks behind Ghana.

what a poverty

I am not sure who went out with 52M projection - because KNBS did a national household survey in 2016 - and projected 47M.
http://statistics.knbs.or.ke/nada/index.php/catalog/88

tylann:
Our population is 47.6 million
Do the math
Did you count us to get 53 million

Your UN has approved our census

Ghana electr
Table 3.14: Grid Electricity Customer Population
2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Residential 1,856,962 2,006,972 2,209,957 2,511,208 2,582,294 2,789,913 3,445,423 3,600,185 3,477,300 3,753,138
Non-residential 413,634 454,430 505,447 514,492 545,665 779,780 630,518 568,473 619,255 652,716
Special Load tariff 1,233 1,369 1,481 1,647 1,882 2,034 2,115 1,438 1,494 1,544
Total 2,271,829 2,462,771 2,716,885 3,027,347 3,129,841 3,571,727 4,078,055 4,170,096 4,098,049 4,407,398
Source: ECG/PDS, ENCLAVE POWER & NEDCo;

Ghana Electricity. If you go to page 54 - you can see Ghana has 3.7m residential house connected to their grid- another 0.6M non-residential & 1K for minning and industries. Ghana has about 6.5M households....with only 3.7M residential houses connected...their real electricity access rate is 57%!!! and you'll hear Ghanians claiming to be nearing 80-90% electricity access.
http://www.energycom.gov.gh/files/ENERGY_STATISTICS_2019_Updated.pdf

FP2020: Women at Center report.

Kenya hit 60% of women using contraceptive - preventing millions of unwanted babies and pregnancies - ahead of target(58%).

The report says that only Kenya and eight of the 69 countries are on track to meet the goals set for growth in contraceptive use by next year. They are Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Chad, Ghana, Kyrgyz Republic, Mozambique Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe. Another 13 countries are within a few percentage points of reaching their goals.

Meanwhile, Nigeria has the second slowest growing uptake rate after Mali in West Africa.

Talking of hospital - Kenyatta University Hospital - is latest public hospital in kenya. Built at 110M dollars.

Nairobi implement Huwaei Intelligent traffic systems

In a bid to decongest Nairobi traffic, Huawei in partnership with Kenya Urban Roads Authority (KURA) implemented the Intelligent Transportation System (ITS) to use intelligent surveillance cameras, traffic flow cameras, variable timing traffic lights, and a control center to monitor and manage traffic.
ITS is not only limited to controlling traffic congestion and information but also improves the overall road safety for both vehicles and pedestrians, and improves the infrastructure usage

So far the system has been implemented in 7 major junctions from Yaya Center along Kilimani and Kileleshwa Ring Roads to Riverside with the aim to expand to various other junctions’ across the city in the future.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V42_5FYIC2Y

vaxx2:
I remember bringing my American gym instructor to golden casino in osu. she told me categorically that the place is the most beautiful place she has ever been to
And this is a woman of about 50 plus and have spend the better part of her life in USA.

That is funny right there.She was just being polite otherwise if she ever went to say Las Vegas or Florida..she has obviously seen way better stuff.I actually checked that casino and it looks ugly.Ghanians need to change their architects and especially painters...don't think I have seen more ugly buildings than some in Accra.Look at Kigali...small City..great stuff coming up.

Acadavah:
You are just an ignorant fool. Barrick and gov of Tanzania have join to form a company called Twiga, 16% owned by Tz and 84% by Barrick .
https://www.barrick.com/English/news/news-details/2019/The-Launch-of-Twiga-Minerals-Heralds-Partnership-Between-Tanzanian-Government-and-Barrick-/default.aspx

You cannot seriously think Barrick are interested in TZ after you f.ucked them.They are divesting.Derisking.

I am at JKIA and I think the airport complex including hotels & cargo processing is bigger than ACCRA CBD.

vaxx2:
in economics. 0.1 isn't a joke talkless of the multiple number ....

but as of 2017 it was 0.001 and Kenya had grown faster than Ghana so I bet when they release next we will be equal.What separated us was the fast declining Equitorial Guinea.

TayserMahri:
Always a pleasure to cater to special needs kids kazi

Debt refinancing refers to initiating a new contract, often at better terms than a previous one, to pay off a loan. Fundamentally, both refinancing and restructuring are debt reorganization processes taken to strengthen a person or a company’s financial outlook. Debt refinancing is used on a much broader basis than restructuring, in which a borrower leverages a newly obtained loan with better terms to pay off a previous loan.

In debt refinancing, a borrower applies for a new loan or debt instrument that has better terms than a previous contract and can be used to pay down the previous obligation. An example of a refinancing would be applying for a new, cheaper loan and using the proceeds from that loan to pay off the liabilities from an existing loan.

Refinancing is used more liberally than restructuring because it is a quicker process, easier to qualify for, and impacts credit score positively since the payment history will reflect the original loan being paid off.

Should be complusory reading for the many ignorant bonobos here

vaxx2:
And I put to you cedis has been in constant stability for the past four month and the foreing reserve of 9 billion dollar suggest that cedis will be stable thru out this year. it is your economy that needs a prudent hand. your economy is seek.. Get over your unemployment ratio. Ghana unemployment is dwindling drastically . going below 3 percent this year .

.Your mate are Tz and Uganda. don't come down west . even Senegal and ivory coast will perform better than you.. ..

When it comes to social development, Human index development expose you. what is the total number of children schooling in Kenya public schools. As I speak, over 1.2 million of school children are under free feeding , free education and free boarding..... we are not using all our education budget to pay salaries .. we are building future and schools .....


You guys has no efficient health insurance scheme. come to Ghana and see what is called health insurance subsidy which even cover as far as brain surgery not that kind of ponsi in ruwanda ...

Ghana macroeconomic situation remains favourable at a growth rate of 7 percent

Inflation is now at 7.6 % and if you look at the trend over the past 15 months or so it's not expected to rise...

Minute difference btw Kenya and Ghana hdi..and Kenya is rising

And you think Chinese are stupid Chinese insist on Take or Pay and add collateral on top. So you will not only sign a similar contract but also commit your oil or aluminum.

Just30:
the US government helped in creating a ponzi company that wanted to steal a company of Ghana worth more than 3 billion dollars without any financial backing.
The Ghanaian government found out and cancel the contract in the interest of Ghana.

The US can keep it money, Ghana is creditworthy to borrow from China to help expand the capacity of ECG.
Infact, a simply listing of ECG on the Ghana stock exchange will solve the problem the company has.

Yes Uganda are adding 600MW in Karuma dam. Ethiopia are also hoping to sell us 400M. We already have 1000MW and more excess coming. Tanzania the laggards are adding 2100MW when they can hardly consume 1,000MW.

Meanwhile Nigeria and South Africa have such a deficit one wishes we can all export to them.

Jonraid:
Uganda have slashed the rates for the electricity they sell to us almost by a whole half,they are desperate to sell their excess power.When we finish the Suswa line,Western Kenya will begin using our own idle power.Who would Uganda sell all that idle energy to?

My friend you've gone to IMF for 16th times because you were defaulting or about to default. You can lie to fellow Ghanians - not to us. IMF are not confidence boosters . Heck if anything IMF bailout send very bad signal to everyone.

It call the NEGATIVE FEEDBACK LOOP - that is what ails your country - an endless cycle of IMF bailout - and economic meltdown.

Try get out of it.
[img]https://slideplayer.com/slide/6215026/20/images/6/Breaking+the+negative+feedback+loop.jpg[/img]

Just30:
lies

IMF was formed to solve balance of payment issues.

And Ghana didnt go to IMF because it had or was close to having balance of payment issues.
Ghana went because of credit ratings continuous downgrade because of confidence issues with the managers of the economy.

When is IMF bailout team landing in Nairobi from Accra
And fail to honor an international contract has very serious implication - don't do it.
IMF will be back in Ghana soon....CEDIS is not getting any better.

I think Kenya does a better job in social spending and investment than Ghana. Your grandmother if she was in kenya get paid and health insured.

I think only thing you got going for you is minning and oil sector.

But we know from Nigeria - that can as well turn out to be an albatross on your economy.

vaxx2:
let me be frank with you.. ...Your economy is really a mess , your credit rating is falling , investors are scared of investing, banks are scared to credit private investors. what a political jamboree of economy mess is happening under your goverment...

The IMF hold the view that when countries spend their way into near bankruptcy and excessive borrowing, the only way out is to spend less. what is wrong in that ? Ghana has for the past 8 months exit IMF bailout . and since then economy has ballon , over one hundered thousand graduate have been placed on monthly allowance while placing over 10,000 of them in permanent job.


in Ghana, we pay teachers and nurses on trainning and automatic job await them after they complete theor studies. we aren't kenya , we borrow to managed economy and for social development , we don't borrow to pay debt . even my 100 years old grandma in the village knows this level of governance is illogical , how much more those who call themselves economist and professional who managed your overvalued economy that is purely massage by your goverment...

Ghana has revoked many licences . go update your news ,the goverment have taken back the system, the govermwnt was even bold enough to reject American aid which comes annually for the support of energy. is in excess of 190 million dollars . America threaten Ghana to stop the aid and Ghana accept the challenge.. The energy sector is seriously under cleansing....we are a big energy nation.... the electricity company is worth over 3 billion dollars. so the challenges of settling deals is not a biggy, We even generate excess gas ...... ones the one district one factory initiative fully materialized and the bauxite refinery takes effect . everything will function back to normal ..



Ghana economy growth has been on steady growth for the past three years . we once grow at 14 percent. that is impossible on kenya.....

You're illiterate who has never heard of debt re-financing and whose country is busy loading commercial loans. Kenya is mostly retiring expensive commercial loans for cheap long tenured loans.

That is why you huge hit from interest...and kenya doesn't.

Quality of loans you take matters.

Kazikazi:
That's funny.All loans has interest.In a long run,that won't be sustainable. The interest from loans will pile up until they won't have any one to trust to give loans

We rather import machineries than chinese finished goods or re-badged goods. We use the machine for what you can call import-substitution.

samorobo:
Then what is the purpose of importing this machineries if it won't meet export target.

No problem - in the meantime - you're paying power producer 1B dollars. I think recently your refuse to honour your contract and last I heard US gov had come hard on Accra - and suspended the country from it's financing.

US gov swiftly withdrew 190M dollars in grants.
https://gh.usembassy.gov/statement-regarding-the-termination-of-the-private-sector-concession-by-the-govt-of-ghana-under-the-mcc-power-investment/
You better look for where to sell that power. Those take or pay contracts are not easy to wriggle out.

Just30:
let see how Ghana has decided to solve it energy overcapacity
We have built our capacity to supply to as far as Niger.

Ghana is revamping her industrial capacity to gulp power production.

Kenya has very good domestic economy. You don't have to export to be vibrant.

samorobo:
Kenyaaa it is economically foolish.

aside tea and coffee nothing leaves the shore of Kenya.