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Austine1212:
Nairobi is far behind Johannesburg, Capetown, Durban, Pretoria...

Not far behind Joburg...I think if count skyscrapers under construction in both cities
.. Nairobi will soon have edge.Nairobi has to fix housing deficit of around 0.5m, fix infrastructure deficit and it be at Joburg level.Most multinational are now choosing Nairobi over Joburg as their Africa HQ

Abohboy:
I know everything is based in Kigali they have a masterplan for Kigali and Kigali alone the rest of the country is kinda left out in most of the development

Rwanda is a country of about 10m..how many cities should it have..maybe 2 or 3..with most folks eventually staying in kigali

samorobo:
I see...tell.me Bata is not in majority of Kenya supermarkets and malls

Bata has had one shoe factory and run shoe franchise... all over the country selling shoes mostly for school kids.Admittedly our leather industry has not developed like say Ethiopia.We are fixing that now with leather city near Nairobi

vaxx:
Beta had left way back since 80s not part of those who left in the millennium, unilever never left ( they are always listed on Nigeria stock exchange) ..I will be happy seeing dunlop coming back, but now with many branches ....

Why are those multinational still controlling manufacturing in West Africa...in Kenya home brand long kicked most of them.Uniliver industries long lost to Bidco.Look like only Dangote has succeeded in Nigeria against Lafrage and the likes

samorobo:
Stop decieving yourself...you were jealous...

Show me that light rail deal you signed with Russia, you liar

Don't blame Germany for skipping your shiithole and wanting to spend a whooping sum of $1.1bn to build an entire city in Nigeria bless your primitive zoo...All we need to do is offer 100 hectares of land and then that is it....you will never attract such In your shiithole so envy us, it is Expected

Cry me a River...Nobody loves kenya

Again until it happens control your desperation

GODMALE:
you won't feel relevant in Africa scheme of things until Nigerians talk about you, nobody knew Kenya before they started twitter war with Nigerians. They try very hard to be among the big boys (Nigeria , Egypt, south Africa).

Only 4 states in Nigeria have more population, cities, money, GDP and every positive things you can think of than the entire Kenya. (Lagos, river state, kano state and akwa ibom).

Do you know that if you add all eastern African countries together Nigeria will still be more than them.

Don't forget Nigeria ethnic groups basically own Benin Republic, Togo(Yoruba's), Cameroon, Niger, Guinea, chad etc(Hausa Fulani). Now imagine if you add them to Nigeria population.

Now go to every country in the world, the only people you'll see are 90% Nigerians.

Kenya's should keep blabbing their mouth, I'm just glad we are buying them gradually, very soon we'll start contesting in elections and winning positions in their country just like how we did in USA, Canada, uk

Delusion from the world poverty capital

samorobo:
Honestly you are jealous and hateful...take 2 seconds to read what you wrote and confirm what I just labelled you as ..

I only posted a news report just like you always do and you threw your envy at me.

Please do not the blame me or my country for progressing just blame those investors that can't seem to take their eyes off Nigeria..They saw Kenya but they chose Nigeria...Every investors wants a slice of Nigeria cake and I don't blame them cos we are fortified That is why I laugh when you say our FDI runs straight to the oil sector....hahah you that have a well functioning FDI where does yours go to...No investor will run to place such infastructures in your zoo cos it is not worth it...That would be a waste of investment


Oops nobody loves kenya ..cry me a River boy

Everyone signed those deals with Russia but until we see it off ground go slow.We signed deals with Japan recently and now they are happening.Same with China

GODMALE:
we are gradually colonizing Kenya like we did in Benin republic, Ghana, togo. I've seen over 10 Nigeria multi national companies buying Kenya businesses.

Transnational is a small bank in Kenya.Nigeria bank expansion is without any concrete strategy.In Kenya they bought struggling banks that will be draining them forever.Kenya banks have expanded to 10 countries so far and their subsidiaries are making money.Recently Equity bank acquired DRC 2nd largest bank.. it generating serious profit...next will be Ethiopia,Congo, Cameron and soon even Nigeria... otherwise Kenyan banks are in 5 East Africa states some as far down as Mozambique.

GODMALE:
I cant believe Nigerians are fighting with people that has only one city and that city contain the world largest slum area in the world. Do we really hate this country this much? Because I don't see how we can be comparing ourselves to countries that people hardly know.

I don't even know anything about Kenya and I bet over 90% of Nigerians don't know and don't even care to know because they are irrelevant in Africa and to us, now these Kenya's are making mouth because the "great Nigerians" are talking about them so they feel they are worth something.

What do you call Mombasa..a city bigger than Abuja..a village

obidark:
then so be it....enemies we shall be....!!

Your defence budget is 1.6b dollars Kenya is inching towards 1.5b dollars.Youre just a poor giant.In few yrs our defence budget will probably double yours. You don't want powerful enemies like progressively advancing kenya.Even Chad will soon overtake you

obidark:
better question is,who opened it....!!

go found out about the person that openend this thread sef....

he is not even kenyan....!!
you kenyans are just makin future enemies for una selfs for foolish reasons....

Future enemy of the world poverty capital. What a peril we are wishing ourselves.Like we don't have envious southern neighbor.Nigeria until it turns the corner and join progressive nation's like Ghana,Rwanda, Botswana, Mauritus and even Ethiopia is best ignored in my view.This thread should not make you bitter at Kenya that without any minerals is pulling itself by it's bootstrap, it should make you bitter at you political leadership.Until Nigerians revolt and say enough is enough they will continue underperforming.There is no magic.Kenya in 90s was like Nigeria...many were running abroad and vowing never to step back...but thro what we call NARC Revolution we kicked our national party KANU and all the retrogressive forces..started a fresh with new Constitution in 2010..and now everyone can see progress with their naked eyes.Nigeria ended military rule and immediately tapped the same tired military forces to run its civilian governments.Unlike Kenya a barren nation... Nigeria has incredible natural resources, incredible human resource of 200m and just need visionary leadership.Nigeria has to start a journey of real reforms.Its has to stop the miasma of delusion that they are Giants of Africa while infact in whatever ranking they cluster around Niger,Chad,CAR,South Sudan,Eritrea,Somalia, Burundi and DRC Congo.Look at Ethiopia turning the leaf...and borrow that leaf.Before Mele Zenawi Ethiopia use to permanently rank bottom in any indices..now it at least 20 position above..Start by kicking out Boko Haram.It shameful to have 8m internally displaced Nigerians.Provide the army whatever they need to kick out Boko Haram.If you have to triple their budget do it...then fix long standing Igbo grievances by issuing a public apology to Igbos over the massacre of millions of them during Biafra war.That will heal a lot of wounds.Igbos don't need much in my view..they just need an inquiry into Biafra atrocities and public apology..and they will feel proudly Nigerian again.Then deal with Sharia law in a secular country.After the country has healed you can start to develop.South Africa healed thro things like Truth n Reconciliation.Kenya did the same through Truth n Reconciliation.Rwanda have manage to start healing unimaginable pain. Progressive nation's have such national conversation where people can cry and be told sorry we hurt you...just like families do . People can then have closure and turn a new leaf.
Otherwise what progress can you talk about when Igbos want to secede, Muslim north want Sharia and the north east are under a grip of Boko Haram.

obidark:
i dont need to click all this your links to know what you sayin is difficult....

nigeria was promised a nuclear plant,you think i believe it will happen any soon or even atall....??

stop been myopic,use your own head....stop allowin them gettin away with promises....

myopic..are you just throwing words around..the man from the zoo who thinks everyone from the zoo..Kenya spent 270m dollars or more than 100b naira to equip all public primary schools with 1.2m tablets, a laptop, projector and printer per school...there is a digital curriculum and all the works...so connecting them next to broadband is easy breezy..just extending the college and universities fiber to schools around it

obidark:
look,i know arguing with a kenyan is fruitless....

but what i know is,a nation can have thousands of schools all over the country....
sayin that all primary and high schoo would be connected is ridiculous....

because i know kenyan schools are not much better than nigerian schools that are run down or dont even have a roof....so na fiber they need....??

not even european nations are that connected....

fiber is not water you pour around the place to grow tea....

Not everyone is dysfunctional like Nigeria.We connected nearly all schools to electricity..both off and main grid..supplied them with laptops, tablets, projectors, printers and some form of broadband..now we are going to move them to fiber.Check Digischool coverage.. nearly 20,000 public primary School covered .It's very likely you'll find a school with electricity and laptops without good desk or even a roof in Kenya http://www.opendata.go.ke/pages/digischool As of 2016 we had 90% coverage and surely by now it's approaching 100% coverage.

obidark:
why do you kenyans love lying this much....??

All colleges and universities in Kenya have had fiber some sinces 90s and now is when focus is on primary and high school.Btw 2014-2016 we connected all public school to electricity.It very easy to connect them to fiber if we just lay the fiber on electricity lines.Read more about the School Connectivity Initiative here https://schools.kenet.or.ke/

More wet dreams from Sammy...when contractor move to the site comeback

Lagos nominal GDP of 136B is as ridiculous as Nigeria GDP.Joburg GDP is around 77B.New Delhi 99B.

Abohboy:
You cannot compare Lagos with Kinshasa because Kinshasa is in a country with an ebola outbreak and extememe governmental problems their gdps overall are not similar either so you cannot compare the two the only thing we have in common is our large population.

You cannot call Lagos a slunpolis when you are the ones with the largest slums in the world can you I showed you the largest slum in Lagos is being regenerated our slum dumpsites are beinf turned into stadiums and golf courses the rest of them are being replaced with low cost housing

Lagos has no oil..it's in the eastern region..just like Kinshasa has no minerals..most of it in the eastern region.Lagos and Kinshasa are siblings...20m allegedly slumpolis.What Lagos has more..Kinshasa balance it out by being a capital city of DrC Congo.Your nation GDP is cooked.Ebola is in eastern congo.Cairo definitely bigger

Abohboy:
First off Lagos gets most of the port activities where there is a port there is money plus Nigeria is a market you cannot ignore even with all the bad leadership and the corruption we have faced and are still facing we can still boast of very good infrastructure in a lot of terms. You told me to check the GDP of other big cities Shanghai 480 billion dollars, London 832 billion dollars what is so surprising about Lagos's gdp it is not bigger than any of the large developed cities of the world

Mombasa port perform better than Lagos port complex of Apapa-tincab in all metrics include cargo throughput.Mombasa has more branded hotels than entire Nigeria.Mombasa GDP is about 10b dollars in my estimation.Once I get a computer I can show you comparable cities to Lagos...don't try developed world...London is the financial capital of the world...you can try India for example...cities that richer than Lagos like New Delhi..what is their GDP...If pictures of Lagos don't support that gdp claim know someone's cooked it.So check Asian & latin huge metropolis like New Delhi, Mumbai, Mexico city, Manila, Dhaka, Jakarta..look at their pictures and look at your slumpolis..and tell me they have the same gdp.Compare Lagos with Kinshasa...and coz DRC are not into lying business..you'll get the correct picture.

Abohboy:
I just told you those reports were lies the Chinese came to Lagos today to sign the deal for the port officially and put down a date if completion in 30 months and mind you the GDP of Lagos alone is bigger than the GDP of the whole of Kenya.

Tokaram Group are enjoying you.. building a deep sea port is serious business.. Chinese are not in business of throwing money away.I doubt there are public policy wonks as brilliant as Chinese..Chinese is a meritocracy..they never shiet before they do serious maths.The average Chinese leader has iQ of 120-140, most have PhD and Chinese invest everything in education.They smell BS from Lagos all the way from Beijing but they are courteous to a fault..many mistake that for foolishness.If maths was good they won't give the money to some shitty Indian company..they will come do it and run it for 30yrs .Dont start us on you fake GDP that is manufactured in CBS offices in Abuja by Yemi Kale.Check GDP of big global cities and see just how l wild the claim that Lagos slumpolis is worth 136B dollars GDP annually is.I can help you with that...big metropolis that are so developed don't make those ridiculous claims.

Abohboy:
It will be completed in 30 months so 2 years and 6 months sorry for the misinformation everyone all of the news of 2020 were lies

I though it will be completed in two months time.Financing has not be concluded.Go slow until you get money in Lagos and construction begins in 2030 possibly.Quick search on Tokaram Group and it's a joke that cannot secure 1b dollars needed....so be careful with that Indian company.. he doesn't leave minus your shirts

theenchanter:
may sense locate u wherever u are.

Lame.Typical of a Nigerian when confronted with facts

Kazikazi:
You mentioned the word fiber with Turkana at same sentence? Really? Fiber before food!
Hehehehe

Yes food is not everything for everyone.Within Turkana there exist demand for internet even by the NGOs fixing food issues

Abohboy:
So turns out it is actually 120 000km of broadband fiber cabkes all over Nigeria not just special areas whole cities, towns and villages also they will give broadband fibers to all business parks, industrial parks, hospitals and school

The government is also going to spend 500 million dollars on the innovation project where they create 700 000 jobs through the tech industry and set up more tech hubs all around Nigeria they are also going to train over 1 million people to code in 4 years they have already trained 1 million

comeback when you do it.Otherwise Nigeria is known for big wet dreams.Kenya has anything upto 30,000kms of fiber network...and FTTH (fiber to the homes) is now approaching 0.5m.South Africa leads with 2m FTTH.Nearly every part of Nairobi and Mombasa has FTTH.

Abohboy:
You are not going to surpass Nigeria in the tech scene first off because Nigeria is already building Abuja technology village, kaduna technology hub and yabacon valley project all of these places will have fibers, electricity etc and will most likely have space for about 100 startups each

Yabacon valley is going to start laying fires and the biggest tech hub company in Africa is going to set up a 12 storey and 5 storey headquarters in yaba, the Lagos state government is also going to lay over 3000km of fiber optic cables to make Lagos a smart city.

Abuja technology village has also started laying fibers and are planning on getting their first building in Q3 2020 the building is called flag house and it is quite beautiful to be honest

kaduna tech hub only has 1 building and that is the training building they are expecting many startups by 2022 after the have taught the 5000 applicants.

Fiber was laid in Kenya 10yrs ago...only Lagos tech scene driven by Nigerian diaspora returnees is active like Nairobi, Joburg, cape Town and Cairo.But we are talking the future...where Nigeria won't feature..it most likely Rwanda and Kenya in SubSahara Africa.As you lay fiber to Yaba Kenya is laying fiber to every school soon...and how do we do it..we lay fiber along power lines.What you're doing now we did it years ago.. unlimited fast internet is available nearly everywhere in most urban areas of Kenya..you can get fiber terminated to you even in a Turkana.That is why Kenya speeds are better than most developed world.. Australia parliament got into big argument when research showed Kenya had better internet than them.As for Nigerians still using opera mini to stream internet...you're 10yrs late.I don't see anyone digging around installing fiber anymore.

Abohboy:
The difference is that it is a tax free zone but you had to buy the plot the government provided electricity, water and the Wi-Fi but people ultimately had to buy the land to enjoy all the benefits

But for yours you say you are spending 14 billion dollars on roads, water, electricity, fibers etc and than giving land away for free and then after that making it tax free sure companies will come but you make no profit other than you have a nice looking city.

Yes those tech companies once up and running will be greater benefits..gov is not out to make profit..the plots will be developed by investors and investment will employ Kenyans and pay taxes eventually.We are looking to attract both established companies but more importantly build start ups ecosystem.If you want to know...we already provide ICT training in all public schools..we spent 170m dollars to provide 1m tablets and laptops to all public schools class 1.we had to electricity school... already in Africa we are competing with South Africa and Nigeria for the tech pie...but we will together with Rwanda eventually emerge the winners.Our education system which was already one Africa best is undergoing massive reform..we are changing yet again from Canada like system to a CBC..competency based model that de-emphasize exams but build inquisitive practical skills based workers of the future.Nobody need automons in the future.Learn more about Kenya digischool project..I think only Rwanda is that ambitious..and also our CBC which is now on grade 3

DTB joins KCB, Equity and COOP in Top 1000 bankers.I bet CBA after merge with NIC will become the 5th Kenyan Bank in global 1000 next year.In Africa top 100..10 Kenyans bank made it compared to 14 Nigerians and Egyptian and 8 South African banks .Tanzanian need not apply.https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/East-african-banks-rank-among-world-top-performers/2560-5318836-ee1tb5/index.html

kikuyu1:
I know what Lamu will be in another decade and let me just say I've got something small there!

Yes lamu only downside is Somalia.We need the jubaland initiative soon coz Mogadishu don't intend to play Ball

kikuyu1:
Glad I'm not the only one to notice. Either there's no import restrictions at all or they're simply ignored in Naijjan style!

Apparently they had 15yrs and now 8 yrs like Kenya but Nigeria nearly everything get smuggled thro Benin or Cameron.If they weren't they would earn lots of taxes from import duties...Kenya get about a billion dollars from car imports.Btw Kenya has banned 2nd hand medium trucks..only the primer movers are allowed.So expect lots of jobs in assembling of trucks

TayserMahri:
Why do the northern Tanzanians use Mombasa port? Dont they have ports? The answer to that question should answer why southern Ethiopians will use Lamu port. Just two days ago it was reported that 9 cargo vessels were in the high seas off your coast due to clogging at the relatively inefficient Dar es salaam port, some of the ships had reportedly been waiting for weeks (wont tell who leaked this infor but we like to watch whether you are waking your slow lazy bums down there). Im sure you part with painful demurrage fees per annum. On the same day a massive cargo ship had been cleared in record time at Mombasa port (stevedoring in less than 48 hrs!!). Thats one hell of an efficiency. An average of 190 gross moves per hour, top global ports do 200 gross moves per hour. Since last yr (2018) Mombasa port is now doing 48 hours turnaround time for bigger vessels on a consistent basis which has seen a rise in transshipment demand by 131.9 %. Part of this transshipment will be rerouted to Lamu Port which you deride so much, largely because Bagamoyo Port has never seen the light of day. And though I understand your deficiencies upstairs, dont you think sometimes its wise to do some comparative analysis and reflection. Like in the case of port business, dont you think its too unwise for a Tanzanian to purport to advise a Kenyan on the same given that your Biggest port which is in your largest city processes only about 60 % of Kenya's biggest port which is in Kenya's second biggest city? Who between the two would know better?

Nailed kazikazi to the Cross.KaziKazi concentrate on hunger and slums...easy wins.

Yes the hatred prevent learning from each others.It would be nice if everyone tried some little decorum and objectivity

mtisTheQubit:
an yet Ghana's minimum wage per day is only 2 dollars...compare that with kenya which is 6-7 dollars...dont you think there is something funny here...actually i checked how you pay your workers an its not cool....where do they get the money then...Your highly skill folks are pay is same as our living wage folks..now tell me how this folks can afford the stuff ya talking about..I think the common guy is just trying to survive while the foreigners (Americans )abuse the hospitality coz they are loaded..its got nothing to do with prosperity..my take

Ghana is better managed Nigeria...they still depend a lot on minning..now their oil and gold industry is kicking arse...it still largely primitive society with some worse cross dressing you'll see...with Kings and queens.When I saw Uganda Gomez dress I thought I had seen the most ugly outfit but Ghana take it to another level.Very embrassing maternity dress you'll see.The worse cross dressing you'll see anywhere but they gave us Kwame Nkrumah, Kofi Annan and Rawlings so cut them some slack

If any 3 Nigerians ever do this call me https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DMrefbAaJtoc&ved=2ahUKEwiq7v2U76jlAhWJHhQKHe3LAkYQwqsBMAB6BAgGEAU&usg=AOvVaw1mLQefWGY5i_o2id7pAkub