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gallivant:
Wow, bigger than Sudan, DRC, Ethiopia, Mali, Libya, South Africa, Angola, Niger, Egypt, Mauritania, Chad etc. Just wow Sammy.

Sammy is typically Nigeria illeterate...DRC is second biggest...I think Sudan use to be 2nd..DRC is nearly 3 times bigger than Nigeria

Mombasa expansion - Berth 21 - completed in 2017 and now fully operational - Berth 22 under constructions - and port is starting to rival kind of South Africa's Durban for efficiency.We also have Dry Port in Nairobi and new one in Naivasha under construction.

When kenya built SGR - they also rushed to build one - despite the fact that most of their cargo terminate at Dar

tylann:
tanzania is bigger than nigeria
outside posta and upanga you will feel sorry for tz

dodoma is a joke

This is too much for the Tanzanian - man from a communist state - that together with Nigeria and DRC - are dragging down Africa in every index imaginable. You know TZ gov because it tries to compete with Kenya - ordered the building of skyscrappers few years ago (now they have ordered for Boeing Dream-liners - and now the gov built skyscrapers are half-empty while the dreamliners fly with six customers typically - and there is office glut in Dar Slums - because of small private sector.

Get out of the gov sky-scrappers built by their gov last decade - and Dar is a sea of slums.

You know the country is about size of Nigeria - and outside Dar there is nothing. Their capital city Dodoma is a market center.

Go to Tanzania rural place - you'll see a sea of poverty - poor peasant who don't even own the land - leasing gov land to grow maize and beans. Try their failed education system - despite English being taught for 12yrs - they cannot speak it.

Ghana is a very progressive nation that is nearly becoming a proper middle class.

vaxx2:
Don't let one or two achievement of your goverment in that sector fool you? There is equally such development in Ghana. per good road quality, Tz don't even have it better than Mali ( A war zone in west africa ) kenya had done well in this regards, you cant compare Ghana social quality system to your country. the kind of similar houses live by Ghanaian in Ghana are mostly occupied by forienger in TZ. better houses and bigger recreation fercility are all over Ghana ( Accra to be precise , so I don't get your false comparism) here. Ghana airport is one of the best four in africa and the leading in west africa , our harbour system is better efficient than many nation in africa as well. Gh put its money where it is needed .

cosmetic development isn't anything to be proud of , it is just purposely for prestige. what make a nation quality in development is the kind of human intellect and well being of the citizens. how many Tz citizens can afford to go study abroad ? how many of Tz citizens has millions of dollar worth investment? how many of TZ citizens even have estate on rentage abroad. what is collective income of the amount of cash remitted back to TZ form TZ citizens working abroad? Development are judged by the living standard of the populace not on cosmetic project

It is common to see western country requesting for Ghana manpower . this is reflection of quality. Germany of recent request for Ghana nurses and likewise many Caribbean nation. Ghana will be supplying Sierra Leone and Liberia some individual to propel their education sector .....


What is the essence of having flashy building without quality citizens. such is even the case of south Africa. and to correct you, bigger country has better chance of urbanizing than smaller nation. Ghana isn't small anyway, it is around 30 million and that is a half of the Tz. despite Nigeria population it is more urbanized than Ghana and TZ Combine .

samorobo:
Hahaha you bark alot..Where in your post was $40million mentioned?
Did you check the km of those roads?
Apart from apapa phase 2 road project and the Abuja-kaduna road the rest are slum upgrade road and mere rehabilitation...You must know that at that time we were still in serious recession so there was scarcity of cash to fund project...

Focus on the present and not the past...Btw I still await your link...I want to disgrace you..

13B naira is 4b kshs which is about 40m dollars

Kazikazi:
Hohohohoho
What have u smoked? Which business do u do with Ethiopia? There is no paved road from Kenya to Addis,there is no railway,what business u do? Ethiopia don't want Kenyan banks.what business are u talking?
You are talking of Rwanda? Seriously? FYI,Rwanda is a part of Tz.There Tz folks in kagame gov.Even Rwanda policies are taken from Tz.Kagame is our boy,we trained him.
Don't talk of Congo.we have the power to chase u away there.We are the leaders of SADC! We can tell anyone not to enter in any of 16 SADC nations.You hear me? You hear me?

You sound stupid.There is now highway from Nairobi to Adis Ababa.We also have completely 400kV power lines with Ethiopia as they look forward to selling to us power.The current president is an Oromo and we have many Kenyan oromos..so everything is changing as Southern Ethiopia is now driving the agenda.Once we complete the road from Lamu to Isiolo then Southern Ethiopia will be our territory.Kenya banks are waiting to enter Ethiopia..KCB already have a representative office.Safaricom are readying for 1b dollars joint bid with Vodacom as Ethiopia are keen to have M-Pesa.Congo we are going there big time.. Already likes of Equity bank just bought 2nd largest bank there in addition to another one.Likes of Serena hotel, KQ have interest there..We run the show in East Africa.

tylann:
my bad i misunderstood point 4

Uganda airline is conducting first flight to Mombasa today

i wonder why air tz could choose to fly to Johannesburg while ignoring Nairobi next door

Coz the airline of theirs is an ego thing.They bought long range airplanes that only make sense for long haul flights.Instead of buying smaller jets so they start climbing the tree from the bottom.

Here is your 2018 federal budget for 20 roads - mere 40M dollars. I think you should ask the UN, IMF and WB to put you in the donor list for being too poor - otherwise the way I see - you'll continue to export all kind of evils to all countries. There should be a conference on NIGERIA soon.

samorobo:
This funny we don't need you to celebrate for us we can do that our selves..it's just a shame that we don't see the impact of your budget.

You're business unfriendly and hostile to kenya - but we don't mind the laggards coming to sell their stuff or tour Kenya. New Uganda Airline flies to Nairobi and now Mombasa.Rwanda Air does the same - they fly to Nairobi & Mombasa.

Honestly we are done with Tanzania - we are looking to depend our relationship with Ethiopia, Congo and beyond our immediate neighbors - and start focusing on Africa.

Kazikazi:
I said in point 4,Tanzania does business with Kenya than any neighboring nation.Thats why more goes to Kenya than those going to Uganda.Business promotes tourism.

The wings of Kilimanjaro plans to start nairbi route in mid 2020.They are waiting for delivery of more planes.They will use airbus for 220-300 for Nairobi route.Later on they will fly to Lagos,Accra,kinshasa,and Lubumbashi in Congo.

Nigeria Federal Road budget...2018...read and weep

Entire federal budget for Infrastructure is around Naira 550B (roads, housing ,etc) -a mere 1.5B dollars!!!! - with entire federal road budget at less than 1B dollars.

20 roads to be constructed at around 40M dollars . That is what we spend tiny roads . Some roads in Kenya go as high as 700M dollar for like 30-40kms.

https://www.thecable.ng/2018-budget-20-new-road-construction-projects-will-gulp-n13-4bn

Road Infrastructure...

1) Nigeria road infrastructure. I checked their FERMA - Federal Road Agency - budget and I nearly 'cried'.

Of Nigeria’s 195,000 kilometres of roads, says the Infrastructure Concession Regulatory Commission, 135,000 km are un-tarred; 32,000 km of the total are federal roads; 31,000km are owned by the state governments and the rest by the local governments. The World Bank says only about 30,000 km of all roads in Nigeria are actually paved.

2) South Africa
South Africa, our continental rival, has 750,014 km of roads, the 10th largest globally, with 158,124 km paved.

3) Kenya

She has about 20,000 kms of road paved.Road transport is the predominant mode of transport and carries about 93% of all cargo and passenger traffic in the country. Kenya's road network has been established to be 160,886 km long. About 61,936 km of these roads are classified while the remaining 98,950 km are not classified.

Note: Only 1/3 of kenya is densely populated - with 2/3 semi-arid wasteland or forests or animal reserves.

What do you think has drastically changed the last few years.

samorobo:
My dear you are in pain, this is from 2010

Exhibit 1 of Nigeria lethargy - Road just 120kms long has been re-construction since 2013.

Reconstruction of Ibandan-Lagos Expressway.
The reconstruction of the expressway was flagged off on July 2013 by Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, the immediate past President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, to help reduce the travel time of hundreds of thousands of commuters and international air passengers. The contract was awarded to Julius Berger Nigeria and Reynolds Construction Company Limited at a sum of 167 billion Naira, equivalent to $838,986,290.[7] Two sections of the expressway will be reconstructed and this includes Section I (Lagos to Sagamu Interchange) and section II (Sagamu Interchange to Ibadan)

samorobo:
Lol this is just as I predicted...
We have not started you are already seeing your defeat...Lagos -ibadan has not been in construction for the past 30 year neither has the sgr...You are just jealous that our little budget as you put it is doing wonders that yours can never ever do...Maybe if your budget were not touring Africa, Europe and Asia you will know the power and might in minuscule budget...lol when we start that comparism I will practically calculate the kilometres of road you built this year and the funny thing is you can't fool me cos I literally all your road project for this year(tylann can attest to this)

When your are able to pay salaries and pension on time, have fixed electricity, your completely broken down roads and have a development budget worth debating come and we shall celebrate your development, the man from the poverty capital of our planet

vaxx2:
Ghana is indeed working again under the current Minister of Food and Agriculture

Mechanizing Agriculture will help us to feed ourselves and export the surplus to other countries. A Ghana beyond Aid will be achieved and generations yet to be born will rise and call us blessed.

Tractor is actually good indicator of agricultural production..Ghana has the least 5, both TZ $ Nigeria 7, Kenya 25 and South Africa 27 tractors in 100kms square.But you'll hear Yemi Kale claiming Nigeria hoe powered agriculture is worth 100b dollars.Crazy statistics

68816419:
Nigeria is on steroid, Roads,Rails,AIRPORTS, SEA PORTS ,Factories,Industrie,Stadiums,Agro industries
Kano-Maiduguri highway dualization
Sections affected by the dispensation include Section Two: Dutse-Kwanar Huguma in Kano State (142 kilometres); Section Three: Azare-Potiskum in Yobe State (106.341 kilometres); Section Four projects: Damaturu to Maiduguri (145.109 kilometres); while Section Five corridors are along the Potiskum – Damaturu axis with 102.075 kilometres. The projects are being executed by a consortium of contractors comprising the Chinese firm CCECC Nigeria Limited, Mothercat Nigeria Ltd, Setraco Nigeria Ltd and CGC Nigeria Ltd, each of which is working on designated sections and have attained significant levels of progress.

Among the factors credited for the success of the project was the Sukuk Bond, which was recently introduced in Nigeria as an alternative funding option for addressing the country’s infrastructure deficit estimated at over $13 trillion. Sukuk is an Islamic funding option for projects of any kind, as long as such do not violate the tenets of Sharia. It became imperative for the Nigerian government to adopt, following the need to bridge the massive infrastructure gap, in the light of dwindling oil revenues in recent times. With the endorsement of the scheme by Mohamed Rufai with reference to the Kano Maiduguri Road, the Sukuk scheme could not have enjoyed better commendation.

Using smaller budget than Kenya...or you think juju can build stuff

owbabs:
You guys would have to create another thread for this Africa challenge and include other African countries. When you say 2019 do you mean projects completed in this year only? Some countries will cry..lol..

Nigeria never complete anything...ibandan-lagos expressway has taken 30yrs and is not complete..SGR btw Lagos $ Ibandan is going into 10yrs... bottom line it all comes down to budget.Just show me your development budget and it easy to judge which country is getting stuff done.It all comes down to money in gov coffers...all the big tickets stuff are international contracts that cost about the same in Ghana or Nigeria or Kenya.

Kazikazi:
Let's also remember, most African countries lack well functional statistical institutions.Only SA is well advanced in that aspect! United republic I think comes second

You're busy cooking your GDP figure so openly both Imf and world Bank have you fingered.Magufuli will not accept anything less rosy as he goes for re-election

Carmit:
Now I remember that Kikuyu dude unsurprisingly dropped another lie saying the Abuja light rail moves just 400 commuters and I ask myself must you hate to the point of hating blindly?

According to the Federal Government, the passenger traffic on the Abuja-Kaduna rail service has risen to 3,700 daily from its carrying capacity of 1,000 people.

Understand the difference btw Abuja light rail and Abuja-Kaduna.The first one carry 400 passengers daily.For comparison Nairobi light rail carries 15-30k daily while Nairobi-MSA carries 7k daily.

tylann:
dangote the goon

he is constructing 5kms of concrete highway so that he can gain favours from your govt

he is constructing the largest oil refinery in the world while the world is shifting to electric cars and renewable energy

Precisely imagine gov saying you build a road and deduct taxes from it...how do you even track that . ..and you wonder not why Nigeria depends 95% on Rockefeller and Rothschild oil companies.. Dangote is like the small baby in that country owned by oil makors

Stevoh18:
CBD has not been left out

We need to plant more jacarandas like Pretoria

Wuoche:
Lamu, Kenya

I watched a documentary in Nigeria port Harcourt where gangs stealing crude oil have completely destroyed such pristine areas...we need to be careful in Lamu.

tylann:
nigeria grows less than 3 %
east african countries grow at an average of 6% every year only ghana and maybe ivory coast are trying the rest are sick nigeria is waiting for oil prices to pick
east africa is the fastest growing region in africa

bring the hdi list we compare east africa vs west africa countries

Yes outside Ghana, Ivory coast and maybe Senegal, West Africa is a jungle starting from Nigeria,Niger,TogoChad,Benin,Mali,Burkina Faso,Siera Leone's,The Gambia, Liberia...the little you'll see is from minerals like gold and diamond..and oil for Nigeria.Some of those countries don't even have a tarmac..the French colonies are still in stone age.

samorobo:
Rvp go tell mother nature to bless your soil with resources...over the last one month's Buhari has really been entering serious deals and agreement with foreign investors on our diverse resources...Everyone wants to invest and have a slice of Nigeria's cake

You can't hate a blessed nation..

Reminder you're the poverty capital that cursed and is nearest to the scum of earth if you can

samorobo:
Lol.you added more.....let's wait for Fitch or fish prediction to come to pass

Lol see paiment ooo

Oil future is grim. Despite all noise..you still depend 90% on Oil for gov revenues.In 2yrs time most car manufacturers will stop production of petrol cars.Unless Cobalt or Nickel or Lithium runs out..

samorobo:
My dear you don't need to sound foolish..Abuja-kaduna, Lagos -ibadan rail cost alone should be more than our budget but yet they are almost completed....

Some projects are handled by the private sector..some by loan...some by oil wealth...

Dangote alone has more than six highways underconstruction as we speak..

You can leverage or borrow but not when you're borrowing to pay salaries and pension.Dangote little concrete roads so he avoid taxes is crazy proposition.You sit on bitumen...you just need to mine it.Or let Dangote do it.He is the only human in the zoo

samorobo:
Power, rails, ports, airports, roads, industrial parks, free trade zones are all part of it...go read on it and stop rambling in pain.

Using the puny federal budget that less thannkenya..all dream are valid including wet dreams. Let me tell you what I read today.Fitch report showing your oil production will continue to drop as oil fields mature without repairs with oil prices falling.Think about what you can do with 1.5m barrels daily on around 55 dollars.Your federal budget will receive an hair cut...start planning what you can do with say 15b dollars budget..when you already spend 70% on servicing debt.Look like another default is coming 15yrs later

samorobo:
Stop making noise dear...Those are part of our brother industrialization plan ..go read on it since that is what you do best...or you can send kikuyu..

We have more airport under construction than he
posted...

Industrialization on generators.Fix that.or hand it over to Dangote

68816419:
All Nigeria In't Airports are currently undergoing massive reconstructions
1-PH Int Airport
2.Abuja Int Airport (Connected with a Light Rail) and it has

a) 15 million-passenger capacity

b) Total area of 56,000 sq m

c) 72 check-in counters

d) 28 immigration desks at arrival, and 16 at departure.

e) 8 security screening points

f) 8 passenger jet bridges

g) walk-way links to both the airport metro station and the domestic terminal.
3.Lagos Int Airport (To be connected with a light rail)
4.Kano Int Airport

Here is the problem buddy, this is wasted investment, without running water and electricity, and with passenger numbers dropping. Gradiose projects are good once you've fixed the basics.As we speak JKIA does more passenger and airplane traffic than Lagos.Why build a 15m passenger capacity in a cattle kraal Abuja struggling to get 4m passenger and with near zero cargo.JkIA handles close 8m passengers and tonnes of cargo...Joburg does 21m..and they are not breaking the bank.Your metro line to Abuja carry 400 passengers l.Wasting petrodollars since 1960.Build something based on realistic projections.Busiest airports in Africa now..Joburg,Cairo,Bole (Ethiopia), Nairobi and Capetown.Top sea ports..South Africa Durban, Egypt (Port Said,etc), Morocco (Tanger med) and Mombasa in Kenya.Nigeria is nowhere to be seen despite fake GDP and 200m folks.

mtisTheQubit:
In GitHub’s latest annual State of the Octoverse report, developers from Africa created 40% more open source repositories on the software engineering marketplace over the past year—a higher growth percentage than any other continent globally. Among African countries with established developer communities (defined by GitHub as having more than 10,000 contributors to the platform), Morocco accounted for the most growth on the continent...

Such data Nigerians cannot cook

gallivant:
People don't die from running unless they are Tanzanians. But if it so happens that your chest overheats, you can watch Kenyans winning medals on TV.

If you want to climb a mango tree and you chest burn too hot, just sit and wait patiently like a Tanzanian for the mangoes to drop.In the meaning gossip.

samorobo:
Go lie to some sick illiterate on the street of mathare
This project is dead and abadoned...it started since 2014 ND what you showed was progress from 2017 which was the last time anything worth noticing took place....
PROJECTS LIKE THIS SHOULDN'T TAKE 1-2 YEARS max..

This project is dead,. The only sentence I can use to describe this is "WET PIPE DREAM"... absolutely dead..go drink some kbera water cos it the only available running water in Nairobi

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-star.co.ke/amp/counties/central/2019-08-07-northern-collector-tunnel-to-start-operations-by-end-of-next-year/This year it at 90%.. piping is being completed in Nairobi..with 60m litre tank at gigiri
near UN offices connectedd to 14m tank at Embakasi Garisson inside the army next to JkIA airport.By around April I expect an extra 140m litres of water daily to be flowing through the Northern collector.Completion date is March 2020...and it being done by Chinese for 200m dollars.