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We are many who are delusional about Nairobi prospect.

Nairobi joins 19 cities in Asia in a ranking of the world's rising urban hubs.

If you know anything sensible about cities - all those cities have one thing in common - they are growing very very rapidly

And Nairobi has risen to no 4 - since it first entered the list in 2017 or 2016.

ProblemChild1:
That guy is taking some illegal stuffs which is not good for his health

Nairobi has more skyscrapper under construction than any city in Africa.
I believe now if you count building of more than 10 or 20 floors it probably has overtaken Joburg or just about.
Nairobi is only city in top 20 of LLC most dynamic (or rapidly) growing city in Africa - infact number 4 worldwide.
As for Abuja and Lagos - when generators go silent - we might hear you.
There is too much generator din. We cant hear you.

ProblemChild1:
And you think joburg with stand still for Nairobi to catch up with her. Nairobi should first catch up with Lagos and Abuja before getting to joburg. Stop dreaming

28 acre airport city dwarf will never amount to much. Even Two River Social city is what 200 acres

Even this Enaki city - is bigger than your little city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh14eC9Bd0M

Nairobi is going places.

Just30:
Delusions drives him to say crazy things here

Earlier than I thought. Nairobi private housing is already on fire; 200K affordable housing per yr will nail it; and finally what will remain is just paint job.

So I'd say 5-10yrs.

ProblemChild1:
And you think Nairobi can catch up with this. Lol

I am familiar with this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbmTGjaCsXk

AfriqueDuZuid:
I'm quite sure you not familiar with Johannesburg development,

Nairobi - joburg seeing dust already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twUWqtUQSsA&t=31s

I mean mid-way btw average buy and sell; forex spread exist; in kenya now it's 118 buy; 130 sell for commercial banks; central bank is average 121 -

Just30:
the facts are

Western Union -7.3
Wave - 8.27
Wise - 7.9
Bureaus in Ghana -7 to 8.5
Taptap - 8.26

Any particular good reason why MorningStar is unfair to Ghana?

vaxx:
the poor boys knows nothing. Even google picked it's data from morningstar not bloomberg as he try to insinuate.he doesn't take his time to learn

Exchange rate is mid way. Reduce the insults. You're wasting your anger. I only get swayed by facts

vaxx:
You are stupid , you don't even know where google check its exchange rate . The data is taking from morningstar not bloomberg as you stupidly think. It is simply mid day rate( half way between the buyer and the seller) no profit margin is factor. If you want to cross check on exchange rate, use banks and regulated bureau d change .

Google uses the likes of Bloomerg which track exchange rate of many countries.
In any case why are jittery - if cedis fall is sustainable - then it will firm up.

Just30:
I guess google changes your money for you

Keep crying

I have been using google - which sources it data from reputable source.
Your anger is misplaced.
And quite laughable.

You and madman need rehab.

vaxx:
I provided bank of Ghana exchange rate , you counter back with the single google check. How mad can you be .... The bank of Ghana is the benchmark for any forex in Ghana . I have always told you to be watchful of your reference. Getting information from untrusted source is same as producing fake evidence .

Not so fast - you've recovered back to Sept 2022 - but this could be either leading or lagging indicator.

vaxx:
The regulatory rules against the black market is on track.

The cedis has completely regain all its 53 percent lost . And the Inflation is cracking down naturally. Some month ago, the cedis was the weakest currency in the world. It is now the highest performing currency now.

Not bad. But 1.5m is still less than 2M barrel Nigeria used to produce.

GeneralDae:
Nigeria emerges Africa’s highest crude oil producer for November 2022

World Health Organization recommended doctor to population ratio
The World Health Organization (WHO) prescribes the ratio of 1:1000, that is, one doctor for a population of 1000 individuals.

Only South Africa is very close - they need 60,000 doctors - and they now maybe at 50,000.

Ghana need 32,000 doctors - from at best 5k - Ghana has to increase more than 6 times.

Kenya need 52,000 doctors- from at best 15k - kenya has more than tripple its numbers.

Why not paste WHO link? 2019 - was 10,000 - now in 2022 it come down to 6,500. Still a long way to go

https://www.afro.who.int/fr/node/16904
Ghana has made tremendous gains in the doctor-to-population ratio, improving from one doctor to 17,899 in 2005 to one doctor to 6,500 in 2020

However, available data also show that 42% of the doctors are in Accra alone, and up to 81.3% of all doctors are concentrated in 5 regions–Greater Accra, Ashanti, Central, Northern and Volta regions, with the Teaching Hospitals in these five regions together having over 60% of all the doctors in Ghana.

Just30:
by the WHO


Keep crying

2023 or 2024? Yes there should be no excuse considering 1.5% railway dev levy charges on all imports is alot of money enough to pay for this. This project to make sense has to be extended to kampala.

Museveni is going to build Kampala to Kasese first - then I guess once kenya build 2nd B - kisumu to Malaba - Museveni will similarly start on Malaba to Kampala.

Then DRC minerals will make the railway profitable.

Shma2022:
Someone is overworking. SGR phase 2 & 3 to kickstart early next year.
This is Naivasha where all plans were made. We're good to go.

Kazikazi is not around because their SGR is as terrible as Ethiopia's.

Naivasha.

Worry about Ghana 3200 doctors in country of 32 million people ; 1 doctor for 10,000 people.

Just30:
let's see if he will admit that half of Kenya doctors are quark

Samrobo claimed it would never as good as the renders. I told him the chinese know their stuff.

Shma2022:
Airport CBD Accra, Ghana.

Nairobi will need 1000 years to be at this Level.

And there are many more under construction now.

Shma2022:
..

Airport CBD aerial view. Accra.

I don't think Nairobi will ever match this.

It means you should go back for your school fees;

68816419:
Meaning Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Union are not been licensed ?

KNBS writes to KMPDC for the numbers every quarter.

Just30:
Unless you want to tell the whole world that your country has 5,000(fake) quark doctors practicing and killing people

And kenya gov got the data in economic survey from Ghana?

Just30:
madness is doing you

The source of the numbers is from Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dental Council as the total number of Registered and practicing doctors in Kenya .... Everyone can see it on this flyer, just accept that your govt was lying to you And move on.

We simply need to import more Cuba doctors and pay them. They are costly to train and therefore costly to pay.
We can export our nurses - as there is an overproduction
Ghana instead of wasting money training nurses - send the money to Cuba - and get at least 1,000 doctors.
Cuban doctors are very very good.

Dont get into fellow country mad man mantra of combative arguing over anything even plain old facts.

Now everything is a contest. Blue is black. Black is red.

Community Health workers have their job in prevention of disease. Nurses have their job. Doctors theirs. Specialist there.
We need adequate number for each.
We are struggling very badly in specialiast.
In fact in some countries you will find one heart specialist in the whole country or NONE.

The amount of money spent to go to India or South Africa or Germany is enough to hire Cuban doctors.

vaxx:
that doesn't mean we are not doing better than kenya . This is the 14 largest country with Doctor to patient ratio in africa.

Doctors and nurses shortage seem to be everywhere except Cuba. Cuba has around 600,000 doctors. That is saturation.

They are more to medical inclusion rather than doctors access only . And in practical sense , nurses spend more time on patient than doctor and on this Ghana is by far one of the leading country in africa .

English comprehension.
Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council - this gov body that regulate, license and register doctors.
Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Union - labour union- those are the ones with circa 8K doctors - mostly working for public sector.

Just30:
Madness is doing you

You think you can just get up and practice medicine er?

You have to write the board licensing exam and become a member of the council.

There is difference btw union and the council.
Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Council
They are the ones that provide KNBS data on registered doctors and dentist.

Just30:
You're mad

You can't practice medicine in Kenya if you're not licensed by them, you'll be arrested just like everywhere else.

Everyone here already know that the Kenyan govt always present false data.

Those numbers are from KMPDU - Kenya Medical Practitioners and Dentists Union - not every doctor belong to their union.

Why would kenya gov lie about numbers? Do you think they know Nairaland? And hope one day we will use it in school yard arguments.

KNBS - equivalent to Ghana Stat services - collect, validate and cross check their numbers.

Just30:
as Usual, typical kenyan government number paddling to present false numbers to fool Kenyans

Also, Kenya only produce 600 doctors per year

There are callous people encouraging the resident mad man to crush himself.

gallivant:
Makes you wonder where the fool got 7k doctors in Kenya from.

Kenya doctors number may shoot slightly as now those with kenya higher diploma clinical medicine have been found to be as competent as Bsc doctor and will have the same job group.

https://ntvkenya.co.ke/news/kmtcs-higher-diplomas-now-equivalent-to-university-degrees/

Following a successful assessment and subsequent endorsement, Higher National Diploma Qualifications from the Kenya Medical Training College (KMTC) will now be classified as KNQA level 7, making them comparable to a bachelor’s degree, a CPA III, a CPS, or a Master Craft Person I.

This comes after the college received a certificate of registration and accreditation from the Kenya National Qualifications Authority (KNQA) (QAI)

This from kenya economic survey - kenya has nearly 15k registered doctors and dentist. It need to double it's effort - and has to build more medical schools. We imported Cuban doctors. We need to import more and more as we train more.
https://www.knbs.or.ke/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-Economic-Survey1.pdf

Last I checked a year or two kenya had 13,000 doctors including specialist.
Kenya graduate 1,000 doctors annually.
Kenya has long way to get to where it need - which would be about 35,000 doctors.

As for Ghana it's any number btw 3,000-5000 - also a long way to go.

Just30:
there are 7,300 doctors in Kenya giving a doctor to patient ratio of 7,600: 1

There are 5,700 doctors in Ghana giving a doctor to patient ratio of 5,300 :1


Carry your lunatic rants elsewhere

You're retarded. Ghana requires 10 times more doctors.

The doctor-patient ratio is alarming (1:10,450 versus 1:5,000 recommended by the Commonwealth, and 1:1,320 recommended by the World Health Organization). This statistic highlights an important fact. We need to train more doctors and other health professionals.

https://chs.ug.edu.gh/postgraduate-endowment-fund/chairman-statement

vaxx:
I am not making claim , it is a fact . Yes . Anyway I don't know where you get your claim about the number of doctors from , maybe the same numbeo page . ( You road side economics) let me help you , as of 2017, the data is still used at present , there is 1 doctor to 5000 patient access ratio in Ghana. Ghana was ranked as the 14th largest position of doctor to patient ratio in africa ( most of the country with more doctors are found in southern africa . So we are not doing bad at all on africa standard , in west africa , we follow closely behind Nigeria . This kare fact from world bank . You can check of you want to learn .

It is expected for human to look for more alternative if they feel present condition is not satisfying. Human want can never be satisfy. Ghana doctors are the highest paid in west africa . You can cross-check .

Last I checked the numbers of medical doctors
South Africa - about 45k
Nigeria - 30K
Kenya -15k
Ghana - 5k.
Those are doctors currently working in those countries.
You'll find many Ghanian doctors outside Ghana - Nigeria is probaly worse - of the 75K Nigeria doctors - only 30K are left in Nigeria.

As for largest hospital in Africa in Ghana - a little country - you should scratch yourselves every time you make such claims.

Actually, you may not even have 5k doctors in Ghana. Look like only about 3000 are left in Ghana - for a 30 million population.

So basically, your healthcare is run by nurses - and outcome is misadgnonsis.

If you had a mental hospital - Just 30 would already be confined there.

To get to South Africa level - you should have half their numbers - more than 20,000 medical doctors & specialist.

But you're busy churning too many nurses than you need and few doctors - and hardly keeping them because their probably earn peanuts.

https://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/NewsArchive/Many-doctors-are-leaving-Ghana-due-to-poor-working-conditions-GMA-1466197

vaxx:
You are ranting.....

When it comes to medical inclusion, only south africa can outshine Ghana in sub saharan africa . despite our population, we have third largest hospital in africa , bar only egypt and south africa, we have the most advance medical center in west africa , far ahead of any hospital in kenya ( UGMC) .and when it comes to specialist, Ghana is awash with lot of human resources both home and abroad .