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Netherlands v Argentina was well worth the watch. Let see the extra time.

Ghanians please you're nothing but Nigeria shadow.

Relax. We have Nigeria, Kenya, South Africa and Egypt as the kingpins.

Ghana is a little shadow of the Zoo...the mini zoo.

Football was your only chance to redeem and impress...you failed.

Let meet tomorrow - and you'll still be bankrupt until 2037.

Why should it be opposite in dec - this when dollars from summer bunnies is flowing? more supply; prizes drops;
I think good sign that domestic debt market didnt lose all hopes.
You still need to default on external debt.
And nail IMF deal
Before we can talk

vaxx:
The cedis is rising so fast against the dollar..

1 dollar equals to 12.80 today .

CFA is also crushing now

Remember this is December , it should be opposite.

They are normally called Indian toilets;
They are quite popular in kenya shared apartments...as they are easy to clean.
In fact it universal toilet in rural kenya...if you dont have lots of water it better....for people to squat than sit on all the microbes.
I dont know of universities using them.
At UON we had standard toilets but they were dirty - and dirty is understatement.
UON sit right in middle of city - and anybody can walk in.

What I gather Ghana at universities are like junior high school kids.

Kenya are pretty rough...and universities during our time were tough...that was only institution that fought moi dictatorship.

More like South Africa kids....we would go and attack police station...people died...get shot....bhang was smoked...name it.

Universities in kenya is where education FAILS completely.

90% of university kids in kenya have been taken through boarding from lower primary - age of 8yrs for some - and for first time they have FREEDOM.

99% of university kids in our time had been through boarding secondary - and for most this was their time of freedom.

That is why kenya boarding system need to be scrapped because eventually it fails as kids need to be nurtured.

Just40:
They are called Indian toilet?
I usually call them squatting toilets cause it's uncommon here.

Grown ups in universities shouldn't be having eyesore toilets

Nobody projected CHINA, Veitnam, or the rest.
Credible institution is me and you.
I have worked for and with all those.

Dont be lazy. Use all that hunting protein to THINK.

Nobody can predict tomorrow but we all try our best.

Did anybody in 2010 predict South Africa was about to CRASH

jl115:
show me a projection from a credible institution that puts Kenya ahead of SA in our lifetime.

That's what I asked

You mean Indian toilets. I am not aware. What I know most public universities toilet are eyesore. I dont even know how we survived them. I wish they were indian toilets.

Kenyans can be pretty rough when they decide....they are not criminal nigeria west africa bible quoting thugs...but just pure thugs.

Just40:
I saw something nasty yesterday and I need the Kenyans to answer why.

Why are Kenyan university hostels using squatting toilets instead of sitting toilets?

What sort of nasty living condition is that?

Most Matatus music system would blow Ghana bars and clubs out of their woodish slimmy slum to atlanta.

My small bro run matatus and is a real thug..but he makes crazy money


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi6hLSCpszk&t=152s

Woodish nonsense from resident mad man.
Back to world cup

Just40:
madness is doing you
Even Accra and Lagos or Abidjan don't have th
e same climatic effect.
There's a current of Cape Coast that diverts wind and rain bearing clouds from Accra.

While Mombasa smell just as nasty as Nairobi... I'm sure you've watched the video of the guy who came to Kenya to do slum tourism his kid exited your airport holding her nose because of the pungent smell.

Don't confuse that with woodish smell, woodish is comforting like when it rain and the droplets hit the dry mud, the nice smell it gives up

It's work for kenya cities. You see the central district of Nairobi has zero residences; except for Hilton hotel and one or two who got stuck in town - and are now exiting.

So in the day - it business, offices and the works.

At night - it turn into mad house - sodom and gomorroh - nobody cares - nobody lives there.

You can makes as much noise as you want.

Some bars and clubs recently started moving to estates - and took their loud music - there is now push back to get them all out - and bring them to central business district, westland business district, name it.

So generally nobody feels it because nobody lives there.

In most countries people live inside cities - in Geneva for example - Paquis is where night life happen - and everyone lives there.

Nairobi has crazy night life because - it's office day time - night life night time in business districts.

Skyscrappers immediately people close their offices turn into this - and also explain why kenyans dont go home, change and comeback to club- they empty from skyscrappers into night life - and are finally taken home or drive home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SOoYmCw8U

mdntiri:
That your loud matatu thing doesn't make sense. Its village vibes. Why add to all the stress, traffic, work stress etc?

Woodish smell; you can be a wordsmith if you go back to school I tell you.
Let me tell you - Accra and Mombasa - same tropical climate - same high temperatures - same humid warm air- but no putrid smell in Mombasa.
Kenya has poverty. It has slums. It has very poor people living in remote areas like Turkana.
Slums smells.
But they are only 2.5% of Nairobi landmass.
Now kenya sewage coverage is high. Nairobi is 70%.
Almost every little town in kenya has modern sewage system.

Nobody will tell you that your smell except those who care.

Please build a modern sewage system consisting of pipping of all raw sewage to one central treatment plant - then empty back to lake

Just40:
Now you've jumped into abstract..


When you exit the plane, the first thing that hit you is the hot air..
Second is the woodish smell .. anyone who has been to the savannah knows or forest knows what woodish smell is.

It's quite nice.


Do you want to ask her why she was holding her nose throughout her tour of Kenya?

The stench was just unbearable

Again from girl video - look like Ghanian are just chilled out boys - I doubt their entire night life can even rival kenyamatatu nightlife - few places can - matatu alone nightlife are more than Ghana can handle - leave alone the bars & clubs - Nairobi at night is crazy - it loud obxonious - and everywhere. And Nairobeans or kenya just head to bar straight from job. Mos t of other countries I have seen - Uganda, South africa , nigeria, ghana - people go home - dress up for the night - which are semi-formal. Kenyans simply empty from office to bar at 5pm. Nairobi from 6-7ish it become a mudhouse - matatus start competing with bars for clients - and by midnight - almost all the bars are emptying out - as people are now drunk - by 3pm it's over. Matatus pick you if you use them and drop you with same loud music, disco lights.

Thank goodness bars in kenya were eventually regulated - to open at 5pm and most close by law by 11pm- otherwise it uses to 24hours of madness - a few have such license. Saturday and sunday they are open at 2pm - otherwise again people use to drink silly 24hrs - some dont even show up home.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7PxA18K0Xs

Here is the girl.

Just at 0:28 am

Immediately I landed in airport - the air wasnt fresh - it has a smell in it - not pleasant smell but now i am used to it.

The answer is obvious - NO SEWAGE SYSTEM - shiet dumped in altantic ocean - putrid smell of human raw sewage rent the air.
The whole country has only small colonial era sewage system in central business district in accra!

Very sad - they need to fix sewage system - build modern sewage system with culvert pipes to everyone homes - not cesspit/soakpit/

Tourism - you go to see clothes being made.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=culiS6a2e1M

I would never do that.
I heard this almost verbatim from kenya girl who is Accra university in youtube.
With some luck I can find it.
Popizziano has corroborated it

I think it was this one - nope - it was a girl

samorobo:
Which is common sense test again? You just wake up one morning and create a tag to justify your stupidity.

Brazil out. France aka westa frica look like to retain world cup.

It only got to 100B in 2020.

obaaderemi:
I'm not stupidd like you. Can you show where I wrote that? I've always said it's below$100bn. You can pick your point between 0 and 99bn.

According to Boer beloved projections kenya gdp would 107B in 2030 - something kenya achieved in 2020.
https://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/27/business/gallery/nigeria-1-trillion-gdp-2030/index.html
9. Kenya — Kenya's GDP will be $107.5 billion in 2030, according to the projections.

That huge improvement. You use to swear it was less than 60B.

obaaderemi:
Kenyan GDP is below $100bn if you care to know. I've always maintained that. By the way, I didn't know you were hanging on to every word I put out here.

I don't fight people; I fight stupid ideas; I applaud great ideas.

obaaderemi:
What point have you ever shared here that's meaningful except fighting with everyone, including fellow Kenyans who have had to either deactivate or cower before you like the chickens they are?

I will rest when I am tired. Again, you're being redundant. I would love to hear you tell us what Nigeria will do to get out of it's economic morass. I use to think Nigeria economy crash since 2014 was due to low oil prices - but now we got record oil prices - and Nigeria is sick. I hope that frustration is not getting into you. No electricity?

Poor dude - today I been busy writting a proposal to do bitcoin mining from mini hydro power station that I set up in my land - this could make me serious money - that way I can engage you without any rest

And would be amusing to get your latest estimate of kenya GDP - you left it at 20B or 30B.

obaaderemi:
Oga, rest.
It's a thing of value when your stupidity is pointed out.

I don't think you've contributed anything of value today except usual gaslighting. We are not here to be loved. We have social life outside this forum. I am here for rigorous intellectual engagement with other Africans that are beneficial.

What nuggets of wisdom have your shared today or this month except heckling?

This is not facebook where I use my real names - this is online forum - brutal streets akin to twitter.

obaaderemi:
Of course. So you don't die younger than necessary.

Tell me which magic south africa will use to grow by more than 1.5%? I frankly dont see it - well unless you change ANC gov; Your best bet is to growing at 2% which matches population growth and maintain the current GDP & standard of living. Welcome again to middle class trap or rut.

Now tell me which magic will stop kenya from growing at 6-7%? I don't see it? In fact with Ruto on board - I suspect we could start hitting 10 percent soon.

You keep crying as Kenya tighten the grip.

When we began - Kenya was at 60B - now at 120B: you still think it's ridiculous?

jl115:
OK and?

I will let this slide.

obaaderemi:
R I P, you are the hurt one here, arguing blindly with everyone and losing. You lost against the Ghanaians, you lost against Nigerians, lost against a lone Tanzanian. And now a South African asks you to back up your claim with a single chart or whatever and it's hard for you to do.

Just like a fellow little Indian once advised you, you will die slowly because of these arguments you keep losing.

Your projections are nonsense compared to credible institutions. Someone we've corrected severally on basic stuff here.

Kenya safari - so many animals parks,
coastal beaches - almost 500kms of whole of it lined up with tourist restort
Those two are the big ones in kenya - then many others added on
Mountains
Deserts
Lakes, rivers & related resorts
Sports
rural tourism
urban tourism

Ghana you have coastline, you have river and lake volta, you have some parks.

All you need is to develop it. You can start by selling beach plots exclusively for hotels - and stop dumping garbage.

Kenya has many tourism institution including tourism development fund - to assist in building hotels - you just need to copy and prosper.

Not call useless diaspora coming home tourism - those people will always come home.

Just40:
Ask him why he and his fellow tourist choose to spend 2 months in Ghana touring and experiencing ...

I don't need to market Ghana to you because we don't waste time on poor people like you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiuEHckpiKI

Kenya has nothing tourism outside of safari.

Ghana has a full blown entertainment tourism and that Is the largest bringer of tourist to Ghana.

Year of return black americans. That can be a niche. You can start Pilgimage tourism.

Just40:
Ask him why he and his fellow tourist choose to spend 2 months in Ghana touring and experiencing ...

I don't need to market Ghana to you because we don't waste time on poor people like you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiuEHckpiKI

Kenya has nothing tourism outside of safari.

Ghana has a full blown entertainment tourism and that Is the largest bringer of tourist to Ghana.

Their entire coastline is million dollar worth of tourist real estate if they can stop dumping sewage on it.
Only west africa coastline is that undeveloped.
Almost the entire kenya coastline is lined up with tourist resorts.
The same in North Africa.

Imagine if they lined up tourist resorts along the coastline - then along the big volta river - they can create tourism - and dont have to call remittances - tourism.

Most of kenya coastline - 500kms - lined up with resorts - from Tanzania border to Lamu - and those that dont - you cant afford to buy - very expensive - a million dollars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIAKJF3LGEo&t=81s

gallivant:
Is this how you bring tourists to Ghana? Not very honorable of you bonobos. Why don't you try honesty and hard work to lure tourists?

I expect you to sell the Ghana experience to us.
What would a tourist do in day 5 in Ghana.
Show us a sample tourism product being sold in Ghana?
You don't have tourism sector outside the slave tourism.
You should try to copy even Uganda that has done great.
Museveni has built their tourism sector from ground up with incentive to tour operators and company
To build hotels and lodges - sell tourism products - and the work.
They allow duty free imports of tour cars.

Just40:
The fact that your tourism receipts is just a billion dollars and less should already tell you that there's so much to experience in West Africa and the very reason why we earn more than Kenya and every year more and more people keep coming back for the experience and vibe.

People feels like they are missing out when they're unable to come from Europe to have the experience.

Kenya is the only place that smells pungent that keeps people holding their nose when they step in Nairobi.... Need I show you WTO president holding hers

Kenya does not have a Beach culture

Agreed, he is weak. The next strategy in his gaslighting is to kill the thread. He killed the other one and tried to pull Nigerians to this one.

Shma2022:
He had to bring Tennis argument like a madman to make sense, smh. His entire balderdash had zero substance. I don't know why he quoted you when deep down he' s retaliating my previous reply towards him.

Very weak. He's a puss1fied man

What is there in undeveloped west africa that can pass for a tourist experience.
Tourist land in Accra - go to slaves dungeons in cape coast - take a picture in point of no return - imagine the horror of slavey.
Comes back to Accra hotel - go to local bar and eat local food?
Go to only park or garden to see rows of tree - mburi something - maybe see two monkeys?
Try to go swim - and find the pungent smell & slimy water too much.
Get into his plane - and never comes back.

Want to compare yourselves to kenya - these canadian couple been here for two years - and they always have something new to see or do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zQJgeWUJyA

Kenya, TZ and South Africa just have huge diversity you'll never get bored.

And they are mostly developed as tourist product.

In Kenya you generally have microsom of earth in a small country it's incredible - it pristine, it reachable, it developed

And you can still see slaves dungeons if you want - as small thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUur1z_1C_U

Just40:


They think tourism just about sight seeing rather than an entire experience. An experience that someone will want to have more than 10times in their lifetime

Obviously, you are not revealing what is hurting you. It hurts you when we call you Obaboon. I will try to be kind to you if you elevate your arguments. Sometimes you make some good arguments.

Now if you want to join the prediction/projection outlook btw Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa - please join with your own data/arguments/merits - dont sit on the sideline - and try to tell me how to make an argument.

I dont need to quote someone else projection when I can do my own projection with available data. The best predictor of next 10yrs is the last 10yrs.

obaaderemi:
R I P, you have no honour. There's no stretching it.
Your arguments are basically nonsensical. Where's the intellectuality in saying a country will stand in the same spot for ten years while yours catch up?

You said the same thing about Morroco and you are still far behind. You said the same about Nigeria, you are yet to catch up with ordinary Lagos.

The Boer asked you to post any source, just one source that puts little Indian ahead of south Africa GDP wise in your lifetime. That's been impossible for you to do. Instead you keep arguing blindly. Where's the honour in that?

If there's anyone here who just says anything it's you and your idiotic brothers. One female monkey was here yesterday arguing about tennis, a sports he knows nothing about. Even when his errors were pointed out he didn't have the decency to slink away quietly from the big embarrassment. He continued arguing that a certain gentleman won nothing for South Africa since the South African flag under which he won his first grandslam was different from the current flag. How's that for lack of honor? You couldn't say you didn't see him making a mockery of Kenyan education here but you chose to keep quiet instead of correcting the illiterate. You Know you are his father and Lord. You lack honour.

Your arguments are mostly flawed and this one on GDP projection just doesn't make sense and you know it. Even the chart you posted proves it. By 2024, South Africa's GDP is expected to be over 7 trillion rands, that's over $400bn. Where will you be in 2024?

Let's just say you wouldn't know honor even if it hits you on the face.
Disagreeing with someone intellectually doesn't make me dishonorable.
Getting something wrong doesn't make me dishonorable.

Let begin with basic here
A code of honor or honor code is generally a set of rules or ideals or a mode or way of behaving regarding honor that is socially, institutionally, culturally, and/or individually or personally imposed, reinforced, followed, and/or respected by certain individuals and/or certain cultures or societies.

What would pass for honor here in Naira is already enumerated in the code of conduct here

But generally, I expect someone to engage in SOUND ARGUMENTATION.

You make an argument - please try to back it up - if possible, with data - showing its truthfulness and its validity.

Don't degenerate to the Ghanian mad cow who just say anything.

When it comes to comparing who is more dishonorable - I don't think Kenya can match Nigeria - and everyone knows that.

Some truism don't need long argumentation.

obaaderemi:
What honour have you got, R I P? Kenyans have their bad eggs just like everyone else, Even with your small population. You are generally lazy and corrupt. Kidnapping is widespread in Kenya and your politicians lead the way in corruption.

Ecuador is not even an African country and it has a visa free agreement with Nigeria. So what are you celebrating?

Sure Nigeria has it's bad eggs too but we have many good people as well and we frown upon bad behaviour. We don't rent our wives out like you. You, R I P, were here a few pages ago celebrating such things. How's that for Code of honour?

Just look at your post here, saying being able to dupe someone is now a virtue in Kenya. That's right, Kenyans are thieves. But saying it's a Nigerian thing is deflection and running away from the truth. That's a total lack of honor.

You argue blindly with everyone even when you know you are wrong. Take for instance your argument with the South African. For 6 years you've been shouting about catching up with south Africa and morroco. You're still far behind. Yet you continue arguing, saying South Africa will still be at the same level in ten years time while you catch up with them. Does that make sense to you? So the whole world would standstill for you. How's that for lack of honor?

Okay hunting boer - here is what your own gov thinks - South Africa Treasury 2022 MTBPS

START from SOUTH AFRICA TREASURY own projections.
All treasuries do something called budget medium term review - and they project gdp growth for like 5yrs
Last I checked south africa looked digitall - 01010101 - zero growth then 1 percent then back to zero growth.

Like I said pick any LATAM country and read more about middle class trap.

And stop being angry at me; I am the just a messenger; I got nothing to do with South Africa aneemic growth.

jl115:
can you read?



It's a simple request.... Either you can prove your point with a simple growth projection which many legitimate institutions do or you stfu because you are talking absolute tripe

Angry boer start from your own treasury data - for real projections of the medium term

https://www.treasury.gov.za/documents/mtbps/2022/default.aspx