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Lipstick on pig + erecting flyover over slumpolis. I lost count of the people I have heard describe driving in Ghana including Accra to be akin to dancing. Your roads are completely potholes. If you find a single - just one pothole in Kigali - come and let us know. I have driven 200kms from Kigali to Lake Kivu - not a single pothole.

What is paved in Rwanda is well done including drainage & pavings. It almost like Europe.

As for Ghana - you cannot even measure to kenya - Kenya is like 10 times better - in road quality - leave alone Rwanda

Heck from videos I have seen of Ghana - and Nigeria - I dont see any difference - both countries have completely broken-down road infrastructure. In kenya we last had such potholed roads in MOI regime

vaxx:
Then talk like well- feed child , are you part of the underfeed turkana adult suffri from the drought? my dear registered idiot , Ghana is acknowledge Internationally for having one of the best road network in the region .

Are you talking about rwanda which most roadways are not marked and with a high absence of streetlights ?

You mean the country that just constructed it's first and only flyover in 2022. better than Ghana? You must be mad. I have lost count of flyover in Accra .

Anyway Accra has the highest flyover in west africa, second longest interchange in africa , the longest is in south africa .

Of course I know Rwanda - been there severally. You should ask why I deliberate did that. Rwanda generally even remote towns have nailed basic like good paving/no potholes. Kigali is on another level.

You can drive in Rwanda and not hit a pothole. It surreal. Wherever there is tarmac - it tarmac - not potholed roads like Ghana - which form videos & youtubers reviews has one worst quality of roads.

vaxx:
What is kigali and rwanda, isn't kigali the capital city of rwanda, you are just a registered idiot. Gibberish full this your mouth .

Nairobi starting to nail paving. Still long way to get to Kigali and Rwanda but good progress the last few years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pS2JuQNrLk&t=678s

Tribal difference are not because kids have never mixed. That is most pedestrian view. People meet on the streets, fall in love and marry.
Heck even in most apartheid of south africa - it had the most prolific mixed marriages - people dont have issues with each other at personal level.
The main issues that divide countries are political exclusions - unfairness in gov jobs, development and opportunities
This is what breeds tribal divisions and cause civil wars.
We got a metldown in 2007 - very tame compared to many countries - but luckly realized we had to change.
We enacted a new constitution that is fairer to everyone...even Indians or Whites are now feeling Kenyan.
Kenya is addressing this through modern 2010 constitution that requires all gov appointment to reflect the face of kenya.
If Akan is 50% - their appointment should be 50% - split into women, disabled, name it - and subtribes. If they are 1% indians - they deserve 1 percent appointment. If they are 0.005 percent they deserve 0.005 percent of money/jobs.
Every county or region in kenya now receives their allocations of national budget.
Every Const in kenya also receive fair allocation for development.
Kenya is also addressing such issues this through strong institutions like judiciary and independent bodies.
The results - we have risen from bottom of fragile nations with Nigeria - to now No 30.
The schools teaches kids Kiswahili, English and national ethos. That is more than enough.
You can board them - all year long - and they are likely to become gay - than less tribal.
Because if you discriminate them in jobs, development and opportunities - they will become tribal afterall.

Good example - Kenya high court has stopped Ruto appointed PS - because some people feel it was not representative enough.

The High Court has stopped the ongoing vetting of permanent secretaries by Parliament, pending the determination of a case filed by the Law Society.

The LSK says in the petition that the list of 51 PSs presented to Parliament for vetting and approval for not depict the national representation including the youth, persons with disabilities, the marginalised and gender balance.

The LSK says in the petition the list as presented to Parliament does not take into account the regional and tribal balance, two-thirds gender rule principle, persons with disabilities and the youth.

And this also true for all gov tenders - certain percentages in kenya are reserved for women, person with disablities and youth.

All gov institution, SOES and agenices are regularly audited to ensure there is regional, ethnic, women, youth and disabled balanced as required by constitution

mdntiri:
So you guys NEED the boarding school system the most with your 'no dominant ' ethnic group, unlike Ghana where the Akans dominate with almost 50% peopling

Your kalenjins, kikuyus, luhyas etc don't command even up to 20% of the population.

All I hear everytime we argue is that black south africans get measured by African standards and the Boer by world class standards. That is Apartheid drilled into you.

jl115:
- its not relevant...you only use it when you are losing an argument.

- And yet Black South Africans still have a better secondary and tertiarily attainment rate than Kenya....nearly double in fact, hence your argument still holds no water.

- see above

I dont care about such provincial details of Ghana. The point is your tribal differences are mild compared to kenya and your boarding school contribution to national cohesion is exaggerated.

vankelvin:
We all know Akan Ethnic group constitutes the largest percentage of our population but what ignorant people like you don't know is the Akan Ethnic group consists of Twi and non-Twi speaking tribes

The Nzema's, Sefwi, Ahanta and the likes are Non-Twi speaking tribes so when they speak their languages the Twi speaking Akans can't comprehend. And even among the Twi speaking tribes the Fante's(which others consider as non-Twi), Bono and the Akuapim tribes speak totally different Twi.

Moreso all the other Ethnic groups together makes up over 55% so what's your point?

Akan is the largest ethnic group in Ghana, making up 47.3% of the population of Ghana (Ghana Statistical Service 2013:61). They comprise the Bono, Asante, Adanse, Twifo, Asen, Fante, Akuapem, Akyem, Akwamu, Kwahu, Sehwi, Awowin, Nzima and Ahanta (Buah 1998:.

What pray are you uniting in boarding schools?

vankelvin:
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Typical of you, so stupid and confidently ignorant

Apartheid is a germane issue in South Africa - sports, education and everything. The racial disparity is the elephant in the room. How do you want us to discuss the squirrels?

In fact if you understood the reality of that racial disparity, it won't suprise you when I say kenya has better education than South Africa.

It because of that racial divide - where bantustan inferior education lingers on - next to world class white minority education.

jl115:
typical Kenyan argument....we went from debates around rugby and education, but when you get destroyed you bring race in to the equation

That is not true. The level of disparity btw provinces is still very high. Schools in Western Cape and such white/colored majority are doing great versus the rest . There is still lingering apertheid that you're too embarrassed to admit let alone address. Of course kenya has regional disparities too...but it mostly climate related...remote/arid lag behind. It's not racial..like South africa...that condemns majority blacks with poor quality education.

jl115:
nope if you compare SAs educational ranking with countries of similar development rates we are on par

Overall - Kenya is doing well considering it's level of development - and South Africa underperforms (outside Cape province & such) - a legacy of apertheid in education - that condemned African kids to low quality Bantustan education lingers on.

Kenyans use to fail to go to high school - because of poverty - but now that is changing.

jl115:
You don't have the highest tertiary attainment rate from the best universities in Africa if you don't have a quality education system....there isn't a debate, Kenya has a good education system, one of the best in Africa...but you are still way behind SA

Almost every Ghanian or Kenyan who has gone to both countries admit it no contest. We just have a mad cow here on the loose.

gallivant:


Ins't this exactly what we have been telling the dwarf men for years now?

Again lagging versus leading indicators; Kenya has started to push for 100% enrollment; that mean completion or attainment rate will go up; but of course it will take some years before we get to South Africa level - as many older kenyans would already been out of that net.

Again most important - we are now on QUANTITATIVE education measures...when we were talking quality /qualitative measures.

So in short South Africans stay (or stayed) in school longer but their quality of education is poor.

jl115:
we are talking about attainment rates of secondary and tertiary students

And SA has a 103% Secondary enrolment rate

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.SEC.ENRR?locations=ZA-KE

Maybe because kenya participate in world maths contest - not something Ghana can lead in.

Just40:


Now your argument has shifted ... How many schools were you expecting to represent Ghana?

Kenya hasn't ever qualify from Africa math and science competitions.... The best has always been Ghana, SA Egypt Tunisia and co.

Should I should you outcome from other schools doing exploit in science math engineering law economics and etc

Good - lagging indicator - kenya has fixed this - now we are leading in Africa.
They should update their figures.

Now we are doing 100% transition to secondary.

Kenya has adopted a policy that will ensure that all learners transit from primary to secondary levels of education until they attain 'basic education

jl115:
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.TER.ENRR?locations=ZA-KE

That individual school - slowpoke - not representative of the rest of the country. PISA measures randomly basic reading/math skills of kids. And Ghana came last of last. Worse than South Africa.

Just40:
Does these look like international educational outcomes?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSV6bI7Qfsc

I'm yet to see a Kenyan school on this level

And it also a fact that you're mental insane

Just40:
it's a fact that Accra consume 1000mw of electricity

It's a fact that Accra has 9,000km of paved roads out of Ghana's 44,000km currently.

It is a fact that Accra has better hospitals than Kenya as a whole

It's a fact that Accra schools produce better outcomes than Kenya
Housing, Accra provides better options than Nairobi where 40% lives in mud or zinc housing

Where has Nairobi gotten to on this.

This also vindicate my view that you dont have critical thinking skills to know we are not talking about one or two random schools that excel. Those are everywhere. Heck my kids schools are somewhere in MIT doing those kind of competitions

We are talking national educational outcomes. I want you to pick random kid in the village and see if they can logically think or read or write.

This girl nails it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U

Just40:
watch this and you'll see why Ghanaians are excelling globally in Mathematics Science and Engineering


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSV6bI7Qfsc

Easy put the data

jl115:
SA has higher tertiary and secondary attainment rates....also your education system must suck if you don't know what secondary or tertiary attainment is

Stop talking rubbish. Kenya quality of education is best in Africa.

Zain/Airtel had Africa university challenge - kenya won everything except one year when Ibandan sneaked in.

Rest of years it was kenya from quarters.

Ghana never made it to quarters.

Just40:
Ghana is not a part of Pisa ... What we did was compare class 2 children outcome with Pisa.


Why are Kenyan school outcomes not excelling like Ghana school outcomes globally?

Why are Kenyan outcomes not competitive at universities?

Those are the questions you should be asking yourself

Actually starts from 3:45 She nails Ghana like a jelly on the wall; and she has no idea about PISA or such


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U

Attaining what? Kenya high school enrollment now is at 100% transition - 1st in Africa.

jl115:
I said "attainment rate"..............

You dont have argue. Listen to this girl from 4 minutes. She has done a very QUICK PISA on your education systems.

JUST LISTEN FROM 4 minutes....and see how you EDUCATION SYSTEM is complete failure...which PISA and other assessment have shown


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQXi4gAj-U

Just40:
we are not a participant of Pisa ..

Except here in Ghana, it is not just few outliers ... But of the grand skill, our outcomes are performing far better globally..


Why are there not even a few outliers from Kenya?


Why do you guys performing so poorly ?

Pasted here

jl115:
Show me Kenya...I want to see something

Your should look for kenyan girl and argue it out. From PISA and other test I have seen - your school systems is a complete total failure. Kids cannot read or write.

Just40:
The trotro driver is well educated to make him Excell in life and the line of business he choosed.
They are well educated to be some of the best engineers you'll meet.
That is what education should bring out of people.

The very trotro driver who can go to court and because he knows his rights and come out victorious.

That is the knowledge base educational system you'll meet in Ghana.


No Kenyan outcomes that are so dumb such that they can't even think for themselves... The results of it is out there

This is credible. Your education system is still on apertheid. Kids from Cape province are as good as Kenyans. The rest are terrible. These would place you right there with Ghana. TERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLE.

jl115:
The research was done by for credible organisations bru...just read the source material next time

Try find credible link like world bank slowpoke
https://datatopics.worldbank.org/education/wDashboard/dqlearningcnty

jl115:
stfu bru

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country

PISA you came last of last. The rest are giant stories. Few outliers are present in every country. Even in Central Africa - I am sure there are very smart kids.

Just40:
There are evidence everywhere with Ghanaian kids archiving the best and out performing the best of the world.

I'm maths and Science, Kenya kids couldn't even outperform Liberia let alone come to Ghana level.

Every year, Ghanaian kids go out there to compete with the best of the world in science and maths... Meanwhile your kids are stranded and basic algebra.

The evidence are all on YouTube.

Look dodgy. Find more credible data. Dont scrap the bottom of the barrel like Ghana

jl115:
Cool story bro

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/education-rankings-by-country

SA - 32nd
Kenya 68th

You're still dumb if you dont understand that when measuring educational outcomes you're measuring the average outcome of all the kids - not few privelleges kids who go to few good schools.

If today Harvard university open a branch in South Sudan - would South Sudan have great education - because they have harvard?

jl115:
But I guess Kenyan kids get dumber as they get older since you don't have near the tertiary or even secondary attainment rates as SA

Same messed up logic that South African advance. It's education that equip your Troto driver to communicate clearly and think logically that we are interested in.

The kenyan girl admitted to have never met more dumb people that she did in Accra Ghana.

This is what education is about - you want to pick random kid in the streets - and see if they can read or do basic maths.

Just40:
Ghana's teachers whose students are performing superb globally with the best of the world verse Kenya where your teachers have failed you massively such that their students can't compete with even Tunisia let alone South Korea.


They failed you guys

This another evidence that your education is poor. Education asses the average kid. Not 2% of the kids who go to Cape University or Witzwatersrand. It's not the Elon Musky. It's average kid in Bantustan or Township. The one that cannot compete against immigrants for lowly jobs and has issues with Zim.

Yes Zim has good education - maybe 2nd to kenya.

jl115:
yeah sure...... remind me again which country produces the most tertiary graduates then after that tell me which country has the best Universities in Africa

Data speaks. You kids on average scored 250-300 in maths/reading skills half kenya.

There is evidence all over that kenya kids are smart and Ghana kids are dumb.

The Youtuber Ondigo nailed it in her video

Just40:
Yes Because Kenya is a big ZOO..

I couldn't believe that you were mass failing like that until I came across high school graduates and university graduates from Kenya ... That was when I decide to look up what mess you guys were compounding in your system to be churning out such poor results