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I dont know much - I recall queing in some gov office with nigerians - for work permit related things - all were pastors and bishops - yeah they have captured kenya religious industry. I am atheist myself. I recall the line had Nigerian and Zimbwabwe pastors and such - queing - It either kenya or uganda or both.

I think you send more pastors per capita to africa than is needed. Or maybe because it easy to get work permits?

I dont know but they were many.

68816419:
Oga, we don't need to fabricate evidence to support our claims; we are aware that Nigeria performs poorly in terms of site tourism . but when it comes to cultural tourism, religious tourism, Entertainment tourism and even corporate tourism. Nigeria is a king.
Also, do you have any idea how many Kenyans or other East Africans will travel to Nigeria this December for a variety of religious events? Additionally, how much will they spend on flights, hotels, and other expenses while there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIAjvI8pA2M

Kenya produces about 40 percent of it shoes consumption..that was 8 million pairs out 40m five year ago...now should well be 45-50m shoes

Five years ago

Local demand for leather products exceeds supply providing an opportunity for investors to tap into this need. The industry’s production is only able to meet approximately 40 per cent of the domestic demand having supplied just 8.1 million pairs of shoes out of the 40 million pairs demanded by the market in 2017. This demand is projected to grow to 46.8 million pairs by 2021, signaling great opportunity in value addition.

Just40:
so 60 million Kenyans import just 6 million pairs of shoes per year?

Now I understand why kenyans can't afford shoes and walk barefooted

So 32 millon Ghanians wear 2 million shoes per year - even if it's made from horse hooves that is something.

Poor Kenya I bet consumes 50 million shoes...at least one shoe per person per year.

Richer countries maybe can afford 5 shoes per person per year or even 10 shoes.

That would mean in Ghana producing 150million shoes

Just40:
Go to bed you have nothing to say

This is not Kenya where you guys are used to those synthetic nonsense and rubber stuff

We didnt have list;
There were no venture capalist.
There was no silicon valley for Africans.
These are small boys swimming in money.
We had to boostrap our resources.
We started literally in the garage.

These kinds of startups started less than 10yrs ago.

Now things are easy beezy

68816419:
This guy fit lie for Africa , Oga, Who is lying to whom? You founded your first startup when you were 24 years old, so why is your name not on this list?

What are the 30million Ghanians wearing. I assume one shoe per year.

Kenya has 34 million shoes per annum consumption - in 2012 - now that should be close to 50 million shoes.

Maybe now close to 1 shoe per person per year

Just40:
there are as many as 20 shoe companies producing as many as 2 million shoes

Because you know a lie when you see one unless you're a dumbo.

68816419:
Why should we imitate Kenya when we have a higher tourism revenue than Kenya?. Do you even understand what that means?

I formed my first startup with two white men and one kenyan lady in 2006. You were probably in primary school.
I dont know what you do in Nairobi.
I think Nairobi has vibrant tech ecosystem they dont need anyone coming in except if they are linking them with silicon valley.
I was 24yrs when I formed my first startup - I needed the white guys for finances.
Now I dont know what you deploy in Kenya industries - I have really limited experience working with kenya companies.
I have generally worked for global companies or international organization.
I have always thrived to earn in dollars.

68816419:
You work as a software engineer, but you were unable to free your fellow Black Kenyans from enslavement and from white, Asian, and Nigerian supremacy in startups. You software engineer are such a waste of space.
Can we examine any of your projects if you are actually a full stack developer so that we can compare our work? I at least have experience deploying certain IT solutions in Kenyan industries.

Only those two - and they appear like newbies?

Just40:
We have better shoes companies
Bata was just a useless brand selling shoes that no one will wear.

Fatima is an employee in a Ghanaian company just like most Ghanaian companies who have given employment to other Kenyans.
Horseman and the rest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwCxvwKrZz0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxWYU5wmZr4

The whole calabar thing is depressing. My friend why dont you visit kenya or south africa or botswana - and study tourism. You think investing billions in shitty show will attract tourist.

Calabar has decayed. I have seen that ranch - it decayed completely. You want to close it down - any bad review is multiplied.

There are countries that I have seen tried - Uganda for example - from war zones - now tourist love it - in some years they beat kenya.

Dont waste money building vanity ranches with vanity shiet shows - gov should focus on their job - allow private investors to come in.

Let a white dude come and set up what fellow white people will like - who told you they want a cattle ranch. Maybe they want to see monkeys? Do you know how much they pay in Rwanda to see Chimpanze? More than 1,000 usd.

But you will likely kidnap the white dude.

Focus on basics. Elect a gov that is serious. see your banking sector...it can be done. Suffice to say no tourism will happen in Nigeria when risk of kidnap is high than seeing a snake. Ghana can try

68816419:
You cow, Covid-19 limitation only caused Obudu to be abandoned; it has since been lifted, and even the well-known Carnival in Calabar was abandoned as a result of Covid-19 restriction.

Ignorance is a bliss. You west africans are bunch of morons whose only dreams is to escape west africa.

If you're ignorant about kenya - and you look at nairobi - and you get shocked - that is not my problem.

10 yrs from now - you will be looking for visa to come to kenya - like youre struggling to dubai or south africa.

Dubai was a cattle and camel herding desert recently - most of middle east was camels and desert tribes - now look at them?

Look at Nigeria - got oil in 1950s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and still look completely shiet.

68816419:
Oga go and sleep, We west Africans view you Kenyans as being on par with Somalis . Don't let your ego get in the way; only a handful of Nigerian-owned businesses in Africa or even the world would be able to purchase all you have in Kenya.
You are well aware of our dominance in the fields of manufacturing, sports, entertainment, technology, agriculture, startups, and the economy.
If not for these individuals, even your so-called most profitable company, Safaricom, which is not even entirely owned by Kenyans, would have been run down by black Kenyans. Michael Joseph, who served as the founding CEO from July 2000 to November 2010, and Bob Collymore, who took over at Safaricom in November 2010, both of whom were foreigners, revamped the company.
Why are we even comparing ourselves to you guys when the majority of your firms, sectors, or even the 'large' startups weren't even created or owned by black Kenyans?

Obudu ranch is abandoned horror shiet show. Why are they advertising it. Or it proborno the only thing we got? An international airport without international face...you got problems.

Fix the country.

Please I beg you to elect Peter Obi....otherwise you're done. Nigeria until it embraces its brilliant people will underperform. Suffering n Smilling like Fela Kuti sang.

Elect Peter Obi. Come to Geneva and get WTO Director General who fixed your banking sector. Look for many brilliant Nigerians. Fix your country.

Nigeria has no dearth of talent...you can almost pick PHD IVY league only and fill up cabinet...PS..name it. Lock these brilliant Nigerians in a room for 3 days...and they will give you a roadmap.

But what will happen - another half dying Tinubu will be elected ...he will likely spend more time in London hospistals than in Nigeria.


Look at Kenya - Ruto very young at 55 - has picked very young folks. I was with Murkomen - the powerful minister of transport at Uon - he was a year ahead of me. I was same year with now PS of enviroment. These are people known to me. They are there by pure merit. Young and motivated.

68816419:
Abuja international Aiport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu1hh9FjeMg

The Bata Corporation (known as Bata, and in the Czech Republic and Slovakia, known as Baťa) is a multinational footwear, apparel and fashion accessories manufacturer and retailer of Moravian (Czech) origin, headquartered in Lausanne, Switzerland.

The corporation is one of the world's leading shoemakers by volume with 150 million pairs of shoes sold annually.[5] It has a retail presence of over 5,300 shops in more than 70 countries across five continents and 21 production facilities in 18 countries. Bata is an employer to over 32,000 people globally.

They have factory in kenya and made incredible harden SAHARA shoes.

Every kenyan kid wears or wants to wear Bata Leather shoes. There shoes are hardy as f. Every kenyan almost want to buy Bata but for the price

They are BATA shops almost everywhere in kenya. They are known for nothing but quality leather shoes.

You cannot afford shoes. Bata is global company. Fatima runs her thing and she is queen. I should also come and become a king...sit my bum on the golden stool and excrete golden stool. That Briton who threatened to sit on the golden stool unless he is given golden bars is a legend.

Just40:
Bata shoes closed down long ago... That is not running a shoe industry

Fatima is an employee of Ghanaian company

There is a kenyan lady who run your shoes industry and one who run your advertsing.

Fatima - run Ghana advertising. She moved to Bidco Uganda - then co-partner to Ghana and Ivory coast - now run her own advertising brand - uniliver is her client

In Africa - FMCG (fast moving goods) - it's Uniliver, Tiger South Africa and Bidco kenya

She is now a queen - and primitive Ghana society must acquiescence to kings and queens.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAbsu82rfl4

Just40:
Is there even a Kenyan company in west Africa

I dont know if Nigeria music has finally penetrated Matatu matwana. I doubt they can meet their standards - for years it either kenya genge or american rap/soul/pop. Nigerian type of music for most of them is lame music. I have a week to go Nairobi. Nairobi has one craziest night life....from club to public transport...its crazy. New governor is taking action back to the main city center. Nobody lives in the main city - so all the crazy noises is okay.

One matatu can buy 20 -30 dafno.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcGz1QLt95I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SOoYmCw8U

Worth watching documentary on kenya - african-american, lgbt+ in kenya, kenya urban culture and many other issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnh5oH5AVv4

I am hurting you now. Piercing your ego. Pricking your poor conscience. I suggest you enrol in some online courses. Learning is a life time committment to improve yourself. Dont be proud to be ignorant.

obaaderemi:
I think I'll just let the idiot go. He's a waste of time and he's already showing signs of a depressed mind. He's doing this to get over a terrible hurt in his life.

Kenyan company starts in Mombasa - and expand all the way to Nigeria. That is kenyan company. I can name others like Kenya Airways, Kenya Re-Insurances, etc.

Kenya Re is the oldest reinsurer in Eastern and Central Africa and serves over 265 insurances companies in 62 countries across Africa, the Middle East and Asia with over 50 percent of its revenue being generated from foreign markets.[2] The firm provides reinsurance products to both life and general insurance.[3] Kenya Re is listed on the Nairobi Securities Exchange.

obaaderemi:
They're Indians. Is it impossible for you to name any Kenyan company in West Africa not owned by Indians?

Obaboon - I dont insult. Numbers in my brain DANCE. They have a life. Almost all the numbers I roll come from my memory. This is greek to you but only savants understand this.

obaaderemi:
Always ready to throw the first insult like the pained kid he is. You are really having a hard time.
Again, your maths and literacy skills are poor as numerous evidence have shown here.

Kenyan of Indian descent. That is what good education does to your mind. The indians in Nigerians are indians. Those being shipped by Dangote in boatloads are INDIANS. Those in kenya are 5th generation Indians who came to kenya to build kenya railway and stayed behind. That is from 1890 to now....130yrs.

obaaderemi:
Chandaria is Indian. If you don't like that, keep screaming till you are red in the face. Any Kenyan company you see in West Africa is owned by an Indian. Name one owned by a Kenyan.

I make my living as software engineer - and maths is an essential skills. I roll numbers out of my mind. You have to get a calculator to compete with my mental maths. The come and proclaim he is wrong

Like I told you Obaboon - I was a math savant growing up. The entire primary school use to sit back and marvel at my mental maths abilities...and by high school..I was nicknamed computer...and I hadnt even seen a real life computer.

obaaderemi:
Your maths skills? Don't make me burst with laughter. Ghanaians, South Africans and others have thrown jabs at you severally over your abysmal knowledge of numbers. Among your illiterate brothers here, of course, you tower high but then remember what is said about the land of the blind.....
Minor things become major things when they happen constantly, boy. Like your many blunders.

The average Nigerian Joe on the street is far better than the above- average Kenyan citizen. That's a fact.
Soyinka won the Nobel prize,. Achebe sold more books than any other African dead or alive, Okri won the Booker prize, Adichie won the Orange prize, etc.. Aren't Nigerians just "madt" when it comes to the written word! Kenyans, what have you won? Hunger prizes and aids.

Chandaria is not a kenyan? Based on what. He is 93 yrs and has lived all his life in kenya - and is as kenyan as one can think of - run his congolemerate from kenya. His father was born in Kenya and died here. His grandfather died in Kenya.
Chandaria is a trail blazer - and on it's wake are many kenya - black as sooth - business.
Already in ALORA in lagos kenya companies are starting to move.
As for your banks - they are HOPELESS - and useless.
Why would you expand to Kenya a very very competitive economy?
Kenya business enviroment is brutal - on competition alone.

obaaderemi:
Chandaria is Indian and he is little known in Nigeria. The dominant roofing company here is nigerite.

Nigeria is Africa's largest economy, if you've not gotten here after all these years, it shows you can't make it here. Besides Kenyans own no companies apart from the tiny ones in the informal sector. You don't have the funds to make it here, maybe the Indian guy Chandaria. But black Kenyans? no way.
However, Nigerians will continue to eat your lunch in little India and your government will keep giving them thank you payments in millions of dollars.

One of the brilliant kenya lawyer PLO - nails Obaboon like jelly on the wall

maxim de minimis non curat lex


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrptDwWxFb8

Kenya education has no equal in Africa outside Mauritus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhEtDXLBaQg

When you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel trying to compete with giants - you'll trying to find a missing comma or here - to assure yourself that he is human afterall.
Just today you friend wanted to make a meal out of NPP.
My maths skills are beyond reproach.

I remember PLO saying Maxim de minimis non curat lex, “law is not concerned with small things.” . Facts are not concerned with small things - missing comma or estimation.

Again Chinua Achebe can win 10 literature Nobel Laurate - that doesnt mean Nigeria Literature is great. It's just mean Chinua is great.

Like Wole Soyinka wrote the tiger doesn't pronounce it's tigritude ; it pounces.

We are talking the average Nigeria on the streets on Nairaland versus average Kenyan.

obaaderemi:
So much for Kenya's good education system.
How many times have we corrected you here on your poor grasp of numbers and literacy? Can't count. Your silly brothers know their place, they don't talk much, they just post pictures or leave things at single sentences. Some of us don't bother quoting a number of them anymore.

You keep hyping yourself but nothing tangible to back it up. Every meaningful prize in writing has been won by Nigerians, from the Nobel prize to the Booker prize. No Kenyan has ever gone that far. But then, it's like they say: empty barrels sound loudest.

If Kenya was doing so well, your fdi would be the highest in Africa but then your dependency on aids is second to none. Kenya is a sin and a shame. No more no less.

Let assume that Kenya Airways has not be carrying you for donkey years.
We generally dont jump or fly - except for KQ
Our regional expansion is well thought out and strategic
We dont just run around like headless chicken like Nigeria
or recklessly burn capital like South Africa.
We work on regional expansion that is profitable - in 3yrs max.
We started from Uganda and Tanzania.
We have moved now to 10 countries.
With AFCTA - you will see Kenya companies.
We are now ready for continental expansion.
And it wont be one company.
It will be at minimum 2,000 companies... Tanzania has kicked kenyans but we still have 500 companies there.
This is not few companies.
Once kenya companies arrive in West Africa - it will be for everything.
What you saw from Chandaria - Towers - building 10 factories - now imagine 10 companies in each sub-sector all competing to expand.

obaaderemi:
Nobody knows of any Kenyan companies here except the only one owned by that Indian dude. At least our banks are in Kenya, what have you got here.
Have you forgotten about the Nigerian company that built one of the longest roads in Nairobi?
You have no presence in West Africa but in Kenya, we are in your faces. I'm beginning to think that's why you are so angry.
We bank your money, we build your roads, we entertain you with our movies and our music, we even owned your oldest communication company until we got tired of raping you and still got a $50m thank you from your corupt Ruto.
Now I know why you want to die crying.

There is a lot of I didnt not know. You're not alone. I have seen Youtube video of many Nigerians and other Africa. Totally ignorant. Only Kenyans know their shiet...and this because we have AFRICA BEST education. We've seen it all here - the English prose, the poor sentence construction, the bad spoken English and name it. This can never happen in any kenyan forum. All this reflect why companies rather come to Kenya.

This second thread - we kicked your gonads in the other one until you had it killed.

This one too I dont see it surviving...even if you had to come here just for the title.

To be very honest - for almost every kenyan here - this is perhaps their most enjoyable forum engagment - I personally have never interracted with more stupid people in my life than in Nairaland

In kenya forums - you can sweat! Kenyans are very brilliant and educated folks. I dont think you guys will last say a hour in kenya forum or kenya twitter.

Moi might have been everything incompetent - but he sure never dropped the ball on education. Kenya critical thinking skills, communication and aptitude is the reason why it's magnet for companies.

obaaderemi:
As a Matter of fact, before this thread many of us didn't know Kenya was doing so poorly. Of course, I knew it was just another African country, so I wasn't exactly expecting anything tangible. But it shocked me to know Kenya actually had an economy smaller than Lagos economy. I didn't know about mathare and kibera, didn't know we had companies taking over Kenyan companies, didn't know you had people starving like Ethiopians did in the 80s and that your was perennial.

I didn't know Indians owned you. Didn't know our sports even without really taking it seriously, was more diverse than yours, Didn't know you rented your wives to European tourists, etc etc.

If we were dealing with a serious country, you would never have seen a Nigerian here beyond page 1. This thread has exposed your country and the saddest thing is that you have resigned to fate, hence you see nothing wrong with that hellhole. Kenyans are worse than animals.

Precisely - These are fintech startups - with lifetime of a dung fly. You cannot compare to kenya companies that have expanded regionally since 1990s.

gallivant:
Those companies are pretty tiny compared to let's say Safaricom. Dangote is your only salvation.

There is enough context (oil and gas) - NP - Nigeria Petroleum - for you to make sense of this. You want to drag me to your level so you can have a chance. Trust me I will beat you in the sea, land and air.

GeneralDae2:
What is NPP?

Fintech - a new thing with ICT - you're doing okay - as good as kenya - just like with banking. Anything else you're NOWHERE. Those are plain old facts. Kenya regional expansion is profound. Only South Africa can speak.

GeneralDae2:
Lol it's actually a waste of time to reply him. He knows even companies like Flutterwave,Interswitch, and Silverbird amongst others are way bigger than what he has mentioned. We actually went through this with them before in 2017, so doing it again from my end is for me an insult to Nigeria and a waste of time .

It's insulting to compare kenya with Nigeria because even when it come to simple Oil and Gas - kenya companies dominate the region - all the way to Mozambique in south - South Sudan in the North. Even Central Africa - Kenya trucks are now going there.

Why cant you even hack the OIL and GAS business? I saw one Nigeria company being bought by NPP - I think it had 10 gas stations

You're just ignorant and proud of it.

Kenya outside South Africa - is the regional economic powerhouse.

Nigeria - your banks are doing okay - the rest of the sectors - you are DEAD as DODO.

Go to about 10 of these regional countries - Kenya is top 1-5 investor/trading/name it.

obaaderemi:
We've been through this before. If we start again, you will come up short as usual. It's actually an insult to compare Nigeria with a country far beneath it like little India.

I am not suprised..when you peel Dangote and BUA...you get a sea of Indians...

gallivant:
Indians are biggest employers in Nigeria..

https://www.icirnigeria.org/indian-govt-claims-its-second-highest-employer-of-labour-in-nigeria/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2020/02/19/indian-firms-second-highest-employers-after-fg-says-acci-2/amp/

https://dharmakshethra.com/indian-firms-in-nigeria-second-highest-employers-after-federal-govt-says-acci/

Let says before I discovered Nigeria forum I had no life
I am here to inform
And I think I have done such a good job.
Most of you were totally sold out to this idea that Nigeria is a giant and Kenya is poor.

The thing I know about Kenyans - nobody is proud of ignorance - and kenyans are very very worldy people.

You should ask the Tanzanians here. We know stuff. Our education teaches us stuff.

Most of you in Nigerians are ignorant and proud of it.

Look at you obaboon... I am here to help you.

Most of you west african have empty brain...whose only ambition is to escape to US or Europe or Asia.

obaaderemi:
He needs the attention of Nigerians like fish needs water. He has been cursed with serious inferiority complex and must always compare himself and his wretched country with others to feel sane, no matter how much he is kicked around. Something is broken in his life. Even if his own countrymen dare to reject his ideas, he deals with them and they run away with their tails between their buttocks. It's pathetic.
But I'm here to continue flogging him.