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Coz his gov cannot think about turning challenges into opportunities. Kenya is better - you can wake up and get a rental unit any day. Imagine nigeria where landlord demand 12 months of rent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HUGE opportunities.

Kenya our challenge is turning slum and slum like housing into proper housing.

Nigeria challenge is finding even a slum where people can walk in and rent the same day.

Wuoche:
I don't know why that Nigerian witch is so eager to see Nairobi's construction going down instead of focusing with their country which currently have insignificant housing development.

The kind of housing boom coming Nairobi way is staggering. Ruto is busy at work. Once we unlock the housing fund and get private investment coming - there will huge housing boom - not seen in Africa in recent history.

Wuoche:
Take your witchcraft far away from me. Another 30 floor building coming up in Upperhill.

Burundi and Rwanda are twin countries; almost exact copy of each other; Burundi and Rwanda were same messed up French/Belgium colonies until Kagame happened.

obaaderemi:
You can't find Nigeria near the likes of Burundi and Somalia on any index. Stop grasping at straws.

Rwanda in spite of small population is doing badly and kagame has been there for ages. What magic can he perform now? Burundi has always done very poorly compared to Rwanda, so compare Rwanda to another small African country, eg Namibia or Sao tome. That's more like it.

It's huge bet. Maybe I should buy one house in Alora - seem that Leki part will be huge. I bought couple of universal homes in nairobi and I like the guy running that project.

In the meantime I advise you to invest in Alora's universal homes - seem to be near the site

Opps it like 40kms

GeneralDae:
The cost is high due to so many other overhead costs. Although the project was conceived in 2014 and one could estimate it at 9 Billion dollars then (when we include all three sections), work began properly in 2016 and the cost was then estimated at 12 Billion dollars seeing that the topography/landscape was not really favorable and a lot of work had to be done inclusive of large operating power plant that is more than enough to power the entire complex and supply excess to the national grid.

There is also subsea gas pipeline project from the Niger Delta to Lagos. Then there was the need to build a special port for Dangote vessels and construct some roads because that area truly had nothing going for it. Hundreds of housing units in what is more or less like a special housing estate have also been built for workers. Over 12,000 foreign workers have been employed and 28,000 locals as well. Many of these workers have been trained overseas.

The thing with Dangote is that he hardly complains or speak so much. He would rather wait to speak only when he can give or project some positive vibes/assurances about his business.

They were short of 1B dollars after selling 20% stake to NNPC for 2.5B dollars. They split into two bonds. One has been issued and was oversubscribed locally - I believe they raised maybe 500M dollars. They will probably float the other soon as 1st was oversubscried. It will get done early or late next year as there is goodwill from gov and private sector - and they have A++ credit rating - with Dangote willing to put his cements and other plants as collateral.

The project overrun is crazy. I dont know if it's Indians? but from 12 to 19B - dollars that is huge. And that is what Nigeria consumers will have to pay back - 20B dollars.

GeneralDae:
It would get done. There was a delay in getting funds from the Nigerian Banks this year, so from around March until August/September, they didn't continue with much large precommisioning and other big construction, only small works. They had to wait to do some round of funding (which involved bonds if I'm not mistaken) in order to continue on some of what they were working on before the halt then due to funds.
I do not know how far they have gone from that point since August or when it would come on board, but it would surely come on board soon enough. The fertiliser section is already fully completed and functioning. There is now then the petrochemical section and then the refinery of 650,000 barrels per day.

When you argue with facts then it you've lost it. Nigeria and Burundi and Somalia are almost always bottom of any indices. Those are stubborn facts. Rwanda can only be compared to Burundi. Both countries have exact same profile. You compare oranges with oranges. Kagame has done great.

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is not at the bottom of all indices, that's probably Kenya. You are an idiot for comparing China with Rwanda. Rwanda is a small country yet behind in many developmental indices even in Africa. The 7% GDP growth is just like little India's Leprechaun GDP growth. It doesn't reflect reality on ground.

I will believe when I see it running. I have seen enough of Nigeria to know nothing get done.

obaaderemi:
R I P will not like this. Envy will be the end of that one.

The Nairobi you once said was Canada or you have another Nairobi in Nigeria?

samorobo:
Nigeria is going up and remaining up. Rwanda is a shiithole like Kenya. Kenya is only slightly better. There is absolutely nothing I can learn from kegame ir the city Kigali. It’s still a hopeless cesspit like Nairobi and worse off mombasa.

Pls say something else abd stop wasting my time

We praise progress. Rwanda has pulled 7% growth rate for years. Kigali has trasformed to be become cleanest city and is attracting investment. Nigeria is going down. Rwanda is coming up.

samorobo:
Still it’s still a shiithole far worse than any country on this thread. So what exactly is there to praise. Pls say something else.

Rwanda GDP - 10B.
Burundi GDP - 3B
Both countries are very similar - siamese twins almost.
The difference Kagame has done in Rwanda is very clear.
Rwanda would be a hopeless country like Burundi - landlocked, beset by conflict, small population, no natural resources - but Kagame singularly has turned the fortunes of that country.

Now that is someone to be proud of.

Look at you zoo Nigeria which is with Burundi in every indices despite being top OIL PRODUCER.

samorobo:
Let’s be frank,what has Megan’s really done sef to warrant all this unnecessary hype? Moving community to inhabitants to pick refuse?
There is hardly anything he has done that other African leaders hasn’t done. Last time I che k Rwanda is still an LDC, still has less than 8% of Kigali tarmaced, still struggle to compete with Abuja.
What exactly is that thing he has done that is so special that you can’t find anywhere else in Africa. I guess strigent measure of dictatorship rules maybe.

You'll not find a perfect human being. China is repressive but they have moved millions out of poverty. Kagame runs a repressive regime but he has grown their economy by 7% year in year out. The twin country Burundi is with Nigeria at the bottom of every indices.

obaaderemi:
Kagame is hardly a role model if you know anything about his repressive methods of ruling. But then what else should one expect from an oddball like you.

You're black by identity - you can't change that. Yes, there are individual black people who have done things but our black countries are bottom of the bottom. We should not be proud of that. You can be proud of your personal achievement but to be proud of Nigeria gov is something else.

samorobo:
Gathering folks to come out and pick me up trash is not something monumental enough to put a pride on the black races. When it comes to progressive black folks around the world Nigeria’s are always at the forefront of it - this is not even up for debate except you’ve been living u see the rocks your entire life.

If you resent being a black man that’s fine but don’t project it on us abd except the rest of us to partake in your internal traumas. I am a proud black man and I will always be - if I am give ng the opportunity to come to this live again I will love to come out black again.

What are you proud of? Are you just proud of being black or Nigerian just because it's your identity? You find things you can be proud of - and we need to honestly improve as black people.

Someone like Rwanda Kagame is making us proud as black people by collecting rubbish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMKidZqWeU&t=861s

Now I can be proud of this - if I was a Rwandese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd6CtW1y--8

samorobo:
You hate your black skin so much and you are so inferior to the point you can’t even hide it. If you aren’t proud of your skin pls just speak for yourself and stop projecting and generalizing your insecurity.

African would never settle to be lapdogs to other races,maybe Kenya would but not others.

We get problems - we solve problems. We dont ban people willing going to Saudi to earn a living when we dont have jobs. How many street kids are in Kenya - thousands. How many Almajiri kids are begging in Nigeria - millions. Is SAUDI ARABIA worse than kids living in slums, engaging in prostitution and drugs at early age.

Allow people to choose where to go freely - and assist them whenever you can.

What we need are rescue centers, gov offices in saudi arabia, functioning embassies - and such - otherwise I am not convinced that even 10% of living in maids in Saudi are suffering - many are doing fine - that is why MANY GO THERE - they have had REAL stories of success - they have seen it.

How do you even ban such? People will travel - as tourist - and you cannot stop them.

obaaderemi:
You are an idiot, RIP. Even your government once cancelled this officially sanctioned modern slavery after an outcry.

I am very truthful; I cannot say Nigeria is good when it's a zoo. Africans we are in serious problems; there is hardly anything to be proud of as black man. Let us say the truth.

If you dont elect Peter Obi - the truth is Nigeria is gone.

samorobo:
You have to understand that rvp has the strongest inferiority complex I have ever come across in a black. He think anything non-black is a the best and africa should worship them so they can’t be help rather than fighting back cos we would loose anyways. Very stupid brain damaged inferior hood rat.


I have seen this trend with him on so many debate with Africans vs European, Africans vs Chinese, Africans vs Indians and now African vs Arabs.

The recruiters are under gov control - as they should. That is work of ministry of labour - even in Kenya - they go to companies - and ensure working conditions are safe - people are paid salaries etc.

I know this is allien in the Zoo known as Nigeria.

obaaderemi:
What's this one saying?
Yours is government sanctioned. Nigeria's own is a case of carelessness by the government.

I dont think I responded to you. I responded to Obaboon. Yes there are two side of the coin. Saudi Arabia are awash with job opportunities.

QuietMynd:
As expected, ur just too slow, when did I single out Kenya in my post, I wrote african leaders, bringing out tabloid post on thesame happening to Nigerians also won't stop the suffering of ur country women there reason why I mention african.

Here you re encouraging the trade, you re a lost cause maybe because none of the victim re ur relative.

What is the official deal Kefala system is the OFFICIAL deal together with SHARIA law in Saud Arabia. They are not going to ammend it for Nigeria. But you're also on Sharia law in north...so maybe you hae sharia-sharia deal.

obaaderemi:
The Government of Kenya, unlike Nigeria actually has an official deal with the Arabs. That's the difference.

You will never understand the kenya economy.
SGR is well on it's way to being operational profitable - loss is now down to 3.5B kshs last year.
Two more years it will be operationally profitable
Nigeria SGR is dead on arrival -

obaaderemi:
We told them this would happen. Misplaced priorities. What Kenya needs is to put more money into tourism and manufacturing. It's Leprechaun economy keeps growing artificially despite unemployment. It needs more manufacturing jobs even if it's just to replace some of the things it imports and then begin to export more. That sgr was not needed at the time they borrowed to build it. Now they're defaulting.

Now that is well built

Kazikazi:
Tanzania tztztz
Ordinary college,nyerere leadership

Kefala is middle east/mulsim labour system. Nigeria who go to work in middle east - are in the same arrangment.


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Aug 26, 2018 — Two Nigerian women have reportedly been killed by their employers in Saudi Arabia. The women were trafficked to Saudi Arabia to work as ...
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Shoddy oversight and poor regulation and implementation of extant laws by the Federal Ministry of Labour and Employment are aiding trafficking of women to Saudi Arabia in the name of searching for greener pastures.

Recently, through the intervention of the Nigerian Embassy in Saudi Arabia, 1,000 housemaids were deported to Nigeria.

These housemaids are airlifted to Saudi Arabia by private employment agencies licensed by the Federal Ministry of Labour.

Information obtained from the ministry through the Freedom of Information Law indicated that two agencies were fully accredited to recruit Nigerians as domestic staff in Saudi Arabia. It, however, said a total of 22 of such agencies were licensed.

obaaderemi:
Kenya has a deal with middle East countries to send maids there. It's called Kafala.

How would such a ban be effected by gov? I dont think it's all gloom and doom; what gov need are to open offices in middle east to assist their citizens in distress including rescue centers;

Saudi has climbed to be Kenya 3rd source of forex. We cannot condemn it all - the problem is with live in maids - but drivers, operators and others have no problem.

QuietMynd:
Africans don't have leaders, when will they ban this nonsense of going to the middle east to do house keeping job, the same job they won't do here. Since these Arabs re animals wearing white Jalab, they will be claiming Muslim but they re more ruthless and barbaric than the devil.
It seems these animalistic behavior is a cultural hereditary thing, this can't be a coincidence, it is happening too often.
They re still in the old age but always want to show they re a developed people by building shining glass city, little did they know development is a things of the mind you can build the most advanced city in the world but if your mentality is still stuck in the 9th century, the development is just a facade.
Everyone has a blame, from the useless leader to the greedy citizens that won't mind going to a dangerous unknown place because of little pay raise despite seeing some people suffer for the same adventure.

What is total enrollment to vocational colleges in Tanzania. This is critical if you want to industrialize.

Kazikazi:
Tanzania tztztztztz
Ordinary vocational college in kagera region

Shma2022:
I hate tribal rhetoric. Kalenjins are capable humans. any component Kenyan can rule this country. Let's not stoop this law in the miasma of pettiness. Luo men should relax. You guys have produced a very competent USA president. No need for this sh*t.

So far, I've only seen 2 nonsense by this government: GMO revival plans, and forest encroachment. The rest are positive and I can't complain.

Sakaja identifies himself as a LUHYA. Sakaja can speak luhya more eloquently than he can speak sabaot. Sakaja stood his ground and claim he is a Luhya. Maybe you should start thinking about why he doesn't want to identify himself as a kalenjin.

Nothing wrong with shamba system and biotech like gmo is long overdue.We need to allow experts in forestry and biotech to guide us..not listen to everyone.I knew Sakaja father long before his son went to politics..he is Sabaot and Sakaja grandfather was mt Elgon mp.Obviously to win Nairobi he has identify by his mother tribe.If he perform in Nairobi he has chance to become president against likes of Gachagua and Nyoro.Ruto definitely going to outperform any president in Kenya history... because he is extremely driven to achieve sucess

MzeeMwenyewe1:
By 2027 all Kenyans will agree that kalenjins cannot run a cattle dip let alone a country

2032 another kalenjin sakaja takes over

We dont eat cane rats.

vankelvin:
If Ghana wants to export to Kenya we will export food because you guys need it

What do you call COCOA

vankelvin:
You call this food? madness dey knock on your door

You always blame Kenya for your own mess. Kenya media, kenya opposition, etc. It's always Kenya fault that you cannot do anything

Kazikazi:
Ugandans are angry with these Kenyans. Remember these Kenyans have been campaigning in European countries to halt the construction of oil pipeline from Uganda to Tz.Uganda have been pissed off.What Uganda wants is for kenya to stop siding with the opposition parties who are caimpaigning against that oil pipeline which these opposition parties believe it will make museveni family to gain more power of ruling Uganda. For Kenyans,they are just jeolous of this pipeline because they wanted it to pass through kenya.

Not necessarily. Africa need to grow its brand. If this Niche guys will do it in US and Europe - while keep it's root in Ghana - that would great. What is even greater is if Ivory coast and Ghana - who control the market - met and decided to ban raw export of cocoa beans - or at least begin a graduated process where eventually at least 50% of cocoa beans are turned to chocolate bars right in Ghana - and ivory coast - doubling the value chain.

Fourpockets:
Misplaced priorities, too bad cos those billions if could have been invested in other African countries with cheap labour, it would have made the company more money and also it would have created more jobs on the continent, the US already has plenty of jobs

I dont log off

obaaderemi:
It's nairaland destroying you, not me. When you wake up in the morning and you log all your devices onto nairaland like you admitted, shows something is wrong somewhere.

Actually, I have gained a lot of African knowledge. I could become AFCTA expert now . I have been online forums since 2000 and have grown a very thick skin. You cannot destroy me however much you try.

obaaderemi:
Just take it easy with Nairaland. It has destroyed you enough. Brotherly advice.

obaaderemi:
Check again. There's a grey line under Ghana. From Burkina Faso to Ghana is a broad grey sector. The countries in that grey sector are classified as "Balanced"

The three countries under the grey sector are classified as "Net Exporters". They are South Africa, Madagascar and Cotedivoire. It's too early for you to start displaying your usual little Indian stupidity. Bloody illiterate.

Splitting hairs as usual obaboon