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Just40:
according to real economic assessment, the Russian economy is on par with that of Germany, buoyant and productive and that is the reason why sanctions hasn't affected it as much as those who planned it thought it would.

what are they producing outside natural resources n weapons.. Germany is an exporting behemoth ...with I bet export value greater than it's gdp..all using cheap Russian gas n oil.Sanctions no longer works because Russia is always on one...as they are always on agression to fix USSR borders that they feel took Russian territorial integrity so almost every two or three years they are attacking their neighbors and trying to seize more territory..like 10 percent of the earth isn't enough for them

Kazikazi:
Those TIVET of yours are somehow different with ours. You have all those teachers colleges listed under TIVET,but in Tz,Vocational colleges,which are VETA are mostly technical. Teacher's colleges are not under VETS. So your numbers are not that high if u could have separated teachers colleges.
But anyway,you are trying

Teachers and nurses are not part of it in kenya either

In meantime today Ruto completed the unveiling Kenya economic recovery and transformation team led by Finance Minister Prof Ndungu, Dr Ndii,Dr Kamau thugge,Dr Augustine Cheruiyot and Dr Nancy Laibuita...dream economic team akin to Chilean famed Chicago boys...proven team of imminently brilliant economist that helped Kenya recover in 2003 from Moi economic root.They brief to

How Nigeria deny what was said verbatim by Finance minister Ahmad .that just pr https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-12/nigeria-exploring-restructuring-some-debt-finance-minister-says

We have no problem.
Nigeria gas pipeline welders have come to Kenya.
What is not possible in Kenya is to come without a WORK PERMIT and start working
It's just not possible - if found - it will be expensive.

Ten Kenyan oil pipeline welders have completed an international accredited training that will ease the skills shortage that forced the country to ship in Chinese, Nigerian and Lebanese welders.

Kenya Trains Welders to Replace Chinese Workers on Oil ...https://allafrica.com › stories
May 17, 2018 — The plan comes amid skills shortages in the sector that recently pushed the country to ship in about 50 Chinese, Nigerians and Lebanese workers .
“Unlike conventional welding which is widely practised, this is a highly specialised form of welding that is done on petroleum pipelines. For a long time, Kenya has only had three qualified pipelines welders, all employees of KPC,” he said.

PROVERBZ:
they are temporary.
So it's definitely pre fabricated steel structures.

Kenya does not need to worry about Indians, by the time Kenya is ready to take on projects like this Nigerians will be the ones moving to Kenya to build it after the Chinese and Indians transfer technology to and expertise to us.

Those are prefabs or housing?
Dont compare Zoo with Kenya
Kenya we have functioning immigration.
Those Indians will not get that many work permits.

PROVERBZ:
Accomodations for dangote refinery which is at 97percent completions

Guys anytime I search dangote refinery or the lekki free zone
I see videos in Hindi explaining how to get jobs in Nigeria to Indians.

Hundreds and thousands more Indians are preparing to move to Lagos and this bothers me.
It's not because I'm racist or hate multi ethnic society no.
It's cuz it's really early in out success story, its the period where people make generational wealth and those people moving here now would put them on equal playing ground with the black people that have lived here during the hard times.
And when Nigeria does get better it would look like Kenya and south Africa where white people and Indians own most of the riches.

I'll rather they come later in search of greener pasture.

Liz sacks the Ghanian-British finance minister -that was fast!
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/14/world/europe/kwasi-kwarteng-uk-chancellor-tax.html

The Ghanian-Briton had taken British the small island that was formerly the greatest nation to IMF

LONDON — Britain’s beleaguered chancellor of the Exchequer, Kwasi Kwarteng, was fired on Friday as Prime Minister Liz Truss prepared to announce a large-scale retreat over a package of unfunded tax cuts that have rattled financial markets, causing a political crisis that has threatened her survival.

Mr. Kwarteng’s departure came after he made a premature return to London from International Monetary Fund meetings in Washington, adding to speculation that a severe loss of confidence among investors that has weakened the pound and that raised borrowing costs would force the government into an imminent reversal of its flagship economic policy.

How is it my chart.

obaaderemi:
So South Africans are hungrier than Nigerians and Kenyans are hungrier than tanzanians according to your chart?

Don't let kazikazi see this. He'll use it against you.

We are doing exactly that. We already have 100 percent primary to secondary transition - a dream for the zoo. Now we are moving to TIVET - enrollment has risen from 150k to nearly half a million. And now with Ruto on board we will push total enrolment to 4 million.

In kenya now TIVET student get higher education loans and grants like university students.

The national government has invested massively in the Technical and Vocational Education and Training (TVET) sector escalating students’ enrollment to these institutions by over[b] 600 per cent since 2013.[/b]

The shift from university education to vocational training is happening.
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/economy/public-university-enrolment-dips-for-first-time-in-three-years-3805878
Enrolment at public universities dipped for the first time in three years in a period that saw the intake at technical colleges offering diploma and certificate courses increase 22 percent.

Official data shows that students joining public universities for undergraduate degrees dropped for the first time in three years to 448,482 in the year to June from 452, 089.

obaaderemi:
This is very good. Little India should copy this if it hasn't.

Togo gdp is 7B dollars. Benin 15B. Despite not being landlocked in middle of nowhere like Rwanda. Kagame has done great.

obaaderemi:
Quit making excuses for a bad leader. If he continues to compare himself to Burundi then Rwanda will take a long time to go beyond that $800 per capita. The kind of international support Rwanda receives can not be found in Togo or Benin. Togo was ostracized for decades by the west through multiple sanctions.

Not to mention the plundering of DRC Rwanda continues to do. And stop saying Rwanda has no natural resources. It exports a lot of gold and has one of the world's largest production of tin.

Togo does not have all this. Let Rwanda leverage on its opportunities, like Togo has done. Kagame is a disgrace to Africa, not least for his continuous destabilization of DRC, sit-tight tendency and inability to truly grow his country.

So total enrollment is a million plus. I find that hard to believe. But you're on the right track if it\s true. You need to push to a million graduands annually; then you can start talking industrialization.

Kazikazi:
295,446 communist folks graduated from Vocational colleges in the year 2020.But since then 25 colleges have been added and another 62 are in construction. So we expect the number to drastically increase after a couple of years

German colonies were ended early - after they lost WWW I or 2. They were handed to French and British.
Let not split hairs - your speciality.
Rwanda and Burundi doesnt have diamond or gold like Botswana or OIL like Nigeria.
They are classic hopeless countries who got almost the worst deal.
Landlocked, small, in middle of nowhere, zero natural resources, and lots of conflicts.
It's akin to you going to your farm - in middle of nowhere - and carving a country.
Kagame is turning Rwanda into a switzerland.
Burundi remain Burundi..bottom if not near bottom and almost hopeless.
Somalia with largest coastline - large population - need 5yrs to turn their fortunes around...Burundi need a Kagame.

obaaderemi:
No, Burundi was a German colony while Rwanda was a Belgian one.

Since you want us to believe that your hero, Kagame has done a great job, then you have to compare it with other small African countries that are also doing well such as Botswana, Sao Tome or even eswatini. Let's see how Rwanda measures against other progressive small African countries.

Coz his gov cannot think about turning challenges into opportunities. Kenya is better - you can wake up and get a rental unit any day. Imagine nigeria where landlord demand 12 months of rent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HUGE opportunities.

Kenya our challenge is turning slum and slum like housing into proper housing.

Nigeria challenge is finding even a slum where people can walk in and rent the same day.

Wuoche:
I don't know why that Nigerian witch is so eager to see Nairobi's construction going down instead of focusing with their country which currently have insignificant housing development.

The kind of housing boom coming Nairobi way is staggering. Ruto is busy at work. Once we unlock the housing fund and get private investment coming - there will huge housing boom - not seen in Africa in recent history.

Wuoche:
Take your witchcraft far away from me. Another 30 floor building coming up in Upperhill.

Burundi and Rwanda are twin countries; almost exact copy of each other; Burundi and Rwanda were same messed up French/Belgium colonies until Kagame happened.

obaaderemi:
You can't find Nigeria near the likes of Burundi and Somalia on any index. Stop grasping at straws.

Rwanda in spite of small population is doing badly and kagame has been there for ages. What magic can he perform now? Burundi has always done very poorly compared to Rwanda, so compare Rwanda to another small African country, eg Namibia or Sao tome. That's more like it.

It's huge bet. Maybe I should buy one house in Alora - seem that Leki part will be huge. I bought couple of universal homes in nairobi and I like the guy running that project.

In the meantime I advise you to invest in Alora's universal homes - seem to be near the site

Opps it like 40kms

GeneralDae:
The cost is high due to so many other overhead costs. Although the project was conceived in 2014 and one could estimate it at 9 Billion dollars then (when we include all three sections), work began properly in 2016 and the cost was then estimated at 12 Billion dollars seeing that the topography/landscape was not really favorable and a lot of work had to be done inclusive of large operating power plant that is more than enough to power the entire complex and supply excess to the national grid.

There is also subsea gas pipeline project from the Niger Delta to Lagos. Then there was the need to build a special port for Dangote vessels and construct some roads because that area truly had nothing going for it. Hundreds of housing units in what is more or less like a special housing estate have also been built for workers. Over 12,000 foreign workers have been employed and 28,000 locals as well. Many of these workers have been trained overseas.

The thing with Dangote is that he hardly complains or speak so much. He would rather wait to speak only when he can give or project some positive vibes/assurances about his business.

They were short of 1B dollars after selling 20% stake to NNPC for 2.5B dollars. They split into two bonds. One has been issued and was oversubscribed locally - I believe they raised maybe 500M dollars. They will probably float the other soon as 1st was oversubscried. It will get done early or late next year as there is goodwill from gov and private sector - and they have A++ credit rating - with Dangote willing to put his cements and other plants as collateral.

The project overrun is crazy. I dont know if it's Indians? but from 12 to 19B - dollars that is huge. And that is what Nigeria consumers will have to pay back - 20B dollars.

GeneralDae:
It would get done. There was a delay in getting funds from the Nigerian Banks this year, so from around March until August/September, they didn't continue with much large precommisioning and other big construction, only small works. They had to wait to do some round of funding (which involved bonds if I'm not mistaken) in order to continue on some of what they were working on before the halt then due to funds.
I do not know how far they have gone from that point since August or when it would come on board, but it would surely come on board soon enough. The fertiliser section is already fully completed and functioning. There is now then the petrochemical section and then the refinery of 650,000 barrels per day.

When you argue with facts then it you've lost it. Nigeria and Burundi and Somalia are almost always bottom of any indices. Those are stubborn facts. Rwanda can only be compared to Burundi. Both countries have exact same profile. You compare oranges with oranges. Kagame has done great.

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is not at the bottom of all indices, that's probably Kenya. You are an idiot for comparing China with Rwanda. Rwanda is a small country yet behind in many developmental indices even in Africa. The 7% GDP growth is just like little India's Leprechaun GDP growth. It doesn't reflect reality on ground.

I will believe when I see it running. I have seen enough of Nigeria to know nothing get done.

obaaderemi:
R I P will not like this. Envy will be the end of that one.

The Nairobi you once said was Canada or you have another Nairobi in Nigeria?

samorobo:
Nigeria is going up and remaining up. Rwanda is a shiithole like Kenya. Kenya is only slightly better. There is absolutely nothing I can learn from kegame ir the city Kigali. It’s still a hopeless cesspit like Nairobi and worse off mombasa.

Pls say something else abd stop wasting my time

We praise progress. Rwanda has pulled 7% growth rate for years. Kigali has trasformed to be become cleanest city and is attracting investment. Nigeria is going down. Rwanda is coming up.

samorobo:
Still it’s still a shiithole far worse than any country on this thread. So what exactly is there to praise. Pls say something else.

Rwanda GDP - 10B.
Burundi GDP - 3B
Both countries are very similar - siamese twins almost.
The difference Kagame has done in Rwanda is very clear.
Rwanda would be a hopeless country like Burundi - landlocked, beset by conflict, small population, no natural resources - but Kagame singularly has turned the fortunes of that country.

Now that is someone to be proud of.

Look at you zoo Nigeria which is with Burundi in every indices despite being top OIL PRODUCER.

samorobo:
Let’s be frank,what has Megan’s really done sef to warrant all this unnecessary hype? Moving community to inhabitants to pick refuse?
There is hardly anything he has done that other African leaders hasn’t done. Last time I che k Rwanda is still an LDC, still has less than 8% of Kigali tarmaced, still struggle to compete with Abuja.
What exactly is that thing he has done that is so special that you can’t find anywhere else in Africa. I guess strigent measure of dictatorship rules maybe.

You'll not find a perfect human being. China is repressive but they have moved millions out of poverty. Kagame runs a repressive regime but he has grown their economy by 7% year in year out. The twin country Burundi is with Nigeria at the bottom of every indices.

obaaderemi:
Kagame is hardly a role model if you know anything about his repressive methods of ruling. But then what else should one expect from an oddball like you.

You're black by identity - you can't change that. Yes, there are individual black people who have done things but our black countries are bottom of the bottom. We should not be proud of that. You can be proud of your personal achievement but to be proud of Nigeria gov is something else.

samorobo:
Gathering folks to come out and pick me up trash is not something monumental enough to put a pride on the black races. When it comes to progressive black folks around the world Nigeria’s are always at the forefront of it - this is not even up for debate except you’ve been living u see the rocks your entire life.

If you resent being a black man that’s fine but don’t project it on us abd except the rest of us to partake in your internal traumas. I am a proud black man and I will always be - if I am give ng the opportunity to come to this live again I will love to come out black again.

What are you proud of? Are you just proud of being black or Nigerian just because it's your identity? You find things you can be proud of - and we need to honestly improve as black people.

Someone like Rwanda Kagame is making us proud as black people by collecting rubbish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYMKidZqWeU&t=861s

Now I can be proud of this - if I was a Rwandese

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd6CtW1y--8

samorobo:
You hate your black skin so much and you are so inferior to the point you can’t even hide it. If you aren’t proud of your skin pls just speak for yourself and stop projecting and generalizing your insecurity.

African would never settle to be lapdogs to other races,maybe Kenya would but not others.

We get problems - we solve problems. We dont ban people willing going to Saudi to earn a living when we dont have jobs. How many street kids are in Kenya - thousands. How many Almajiri kids are begging in Nigeria - millions. Is SAUDI ARABIA worse than kids living in slums, engaging in prostitution and drugs at early age.

Allow people to choose where to go freely - and assist them whenever you can.

What we need are rescue centers, gov offices in saudi arabia, functioning embassies - and such - otherwise I am not convinced that even 10% of living in maids in Saudi are suffering - many are doing fine - that is why MANY GO THERE - they have had REAL stories of success - they have seen it.

How do you even ban such? People will travel - as tourist - and you cannot stop them.

obaaderemi:
You are an idiot, RIP. Even your government once cancelled this officially sanctioned modern slavery after an outcry.

I am very truthful; I cannot say Nigeria is good when it's a zoo. Africans we are in serious problems; there is hardly anything to be proud of as black man. Let us say the truth.

If you dont elect Peter Obi - the truth is Nigeria is gone.

samorobo:
You have to understand that rvp has the strongest inferiority complex I have ever come across in a black. He think anything non-black is a the best and africa should worship them so they can’t be help rather than fighting back cos we would loose anyways. Very stupid brain damaged inferior hood rat.


I have seen this trend with him on so many debate with Africans vs European, Africans vs Chinese, Africans vs Indians and now African vs Arabs.

The recruiters are under gov control - as they should. That is work of ministry of labour - even in Kenya - they go to companies - and ensure working conditions are safe - people are paid salaries etc.

I know this is allien in the Zoo known as Nigeria.

obaaderemi:
What's this one saying?
Yours is government sanctioned. Nigeria's own is a case of carelessness by the government.

I dont think I responded to you. I responded to Obaboon. Yes there are two side of the coin. Saudi Arabia are awash with job opportunities.

QuietMynd:
As expected, ur just too slow, when did I single out Kenya in my post, I wrote african leaders, bringing out tabloid post on thesame happening to Nigerians also won't stop the suffering of ur country women there reason why I mention african.

Here you re encouraging the trade, you re a lost cause maybe because none of the victim re ur relative.

What is the official deal Kefala system is the OFFICIAL deal together with SHARIA law in Saud Arabia. They are not going to ammend it for Nigeria. But you're also on Sharia law in north...so maybe you hae sharia-sharia deal.

obaaderemi:
The Government of Kenya, unlike Nigeria actually has an official deal with the Arabs. That's the difference.

You will never understand the kenya economy.
SGR is well on it's way to being operational profitable - loss is now down to 3.5B kshs last year.
Two more years it will be operationally profitable
Nigeria SGR is dead on arrival -

obaaderemi:
We told them this would happen. Misplaced priorities. What Kenya needs is to put more money into tourism and manufacturing. It's Leprechaun economy keeps growing artificially despite unemployment. It needs more manufacturing jobs even if it's just to replace some of the things it imports and then begin to export more. That sgr was not needed at the time they borrowed to build it. Now they're defaulting.

Now that is well built

Kazikazi:
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