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carefreewannabe: now I understand your view better. I partly agree. but when it comes to marriage, for me, one should not only act in one own's interest but also in the interest of your spouse for whom you have taken responsibilty since you have become a family. if you go on acting selfish in marriage, it will do no good to the family. and this valid for both, men and women.
and as I am a great supporter of personal freedom, yes, let people choose their own life style. allow polygamy and allow it for everyone. but make sure, before you marry, what kind of marriage you TWO want to have. therefore, couples should sign a contract from the beginning leaving the option of polygamy open to those who agree to it and letting it out if they don't. that would be desireable.

The demand of a contract before marriage is against my philosophy. People should be free to change their minds if they want to. As a supporter of personal freedom, you should not advocate that.

Marriage as an institution has failed. It gets an F grade. Virtually all people go into it with self-interest, which is only natural.

Out of interest, if I may ask you, what do you think about fairness of Western divorce laws and your thoughts about prenuptials?

carefreewannabe: look, for me this is not about a fight of one gender against the other and I am wondering why you have such a negative view.
I have never said women are better than men. there are good and bad women as they are good and bad people. most human beings are both, good and bad. each day, we have to fight the bad side inside of us and do good. this is my firm belief. sometimes we succeed and sometimes we fail. however, I didn't intend to share my moral views or act like a student of philosophy.

I just shared my view on polygamy. everyone has the freedom of speech. if you are in favour of polygamy, fine. I don't like this concept and I believe that very few people like to share their husbands and wives.

at the end of the day, there is no use in pointing one's fingers at others and in justifying bad actions and habits wih other people's bad behaviour.

To me it is not a fight about gender, it is fight about logic.

I don't have a negative view, I have a pragmatic and realistic view.

I am just putting forth my logic based on realities of life. And one of the realities of life is the misconception that most women are whiter than white and men are bad until proven innocent.

I am just enlightening people on realities, not attacking women. That said, one of the realities is that men and women are generally different.

In my view, at the end of the day, since there is no effective control to make people take good actions or have good habits, let everyone act in their best interest and then bargain it out with other people in the system as scenarios evolve.

And based on realities, I know most women always act in their best interest, I adjust my life to act the same way otherwise no one will act in my best interest.

Polygamy should be allowed, freedom to not participate in it should be allowed. That creates an equal and fair platform, which aids the bargaining process.

carefreewannabe: I don't know about your wife, so I cannot answer the question. But you're right, some women would bring in another husband if they could. not all.

An overwhelming majority of women (as we know them) would, if they have the powers to do the same thing and it is to their benefit. Very negligible few would not.

Exploitation of divorce laws is a real-life example. Women taking what they know they are not entitled to.

Women don't understand fair. They only understand self-advantage.

carefreewannabe: I don't know what all women consider fair. personally speaking I think that it is fair to not do to others what you don't want to be done to you.

I understand women in general and I can categorically tell you that they SURELY do not understand fair and do not treat others the way they want to be treated.

https://www.nairaland.com/962850/ladies-which-these-dating-evils

It is this lack of treating others the way they want to be treated that causes women to hate each other and we have that intense bitchiness we always witness.

If women have power, there is high chances they would abuse it.

carefreewannabe: just imagine your wife bringing in another husband against your will. can you sense any fairnes here?
it's not about rules. it's about how you treat other people. especially people who love you.

Are you saying if my wife (or women in general) has the powers to do that without any serious consequences to her, she will likely not?

What do women understand about fairness?

What do women understand about how to treat other people?

[quote author=*Kails*]LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL @ the rage sagamite feels just from seeing fights online! [/quote]I hate people thinking they can be violent. No one has a monopoly on violence.

If no one put their hands on others, then we will not have stewpid fights.

carefreewannabe: the man should know before marriage if he wants to practice polygamy or not.
it's not fair to change your mind in the course of the marriage.

What about if he does not know?

Who is it unfair to?

Under what rules is it unfair?

BluStreak: @Saga, I gbadu your analysis straight-up dude. The lady in question is close to my wife & she (my wife) has cautioned her on the impending dangers of their closeness considering her state of ѕєχυαℓ deprivation. She adviced that at the moment, she will be very vulnerable and shouldn't be putting herself in a very tempting position. At the same time the unhealthy relationship might flag off suspicion on the part of her in-laws which they will not hesitate to transmit to their son abroad.

We know it is very likely that nothing is happening as she has claimed oº°˚ but, the probability from all indications is 1/999.

Something is definitely happening.

You will have to catch koboko directly in a woman before they can ever admit their cheating. Her denial means shyt to a man like me.

emk4lif: ooooo he's a fool..really...he's the president of africa's largest nation and u are......... jobless idiot on a borrowed nokia fone who thanks to etisalat 15mb can access the internet, i gues u're d cretin with a gelatinised brain...get a life ...arsehole

You are a person!

So since when did being the President of Nigeria become a meritious achievement?

Bloody cretinous baboon citizen of a Banana Republic.

So Alao Akala is one of your role models because he was a Governor?

Foool!

The fucktards you are worshiping like Jonathan cannot even be allowed to a local councillor role in developed countries like the UK. That is the person your cretinous arsse wants to compare to me?

Foolish product of a failed education system.

What is the person doing?

Posing for picture?

What a foooool!

Confused cretin that has nothing to offer.

wonlasewonimi: Everyone, can you see sagaymite is a not only a sociopath, he is also a psychopath. After correcting his 'intellectual' error, he is coming up with this?

So you are claiming you did not say "curses are attracted to you"?

wonlasewonimi: Ok, let me help you out!

trav·el (trvl)
v. trav·eled or trav·elled, trav·el·ing or trav·el·ling, trav·els
v.intr.
1. To go from one place to another, as on a trip; journey.
2. To go from place to place as a salesperson or agent.
3. To be transmitted, as light or sound; move or pass.
4. To advance or proceed.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/traveling

And, person, were "curses attracted to you"?

wonlasewonimi: The joke is on you!

Wondering how I got your name? I'm closer to home than you think

person, did you know it was travelling?

person, did you know it was "travelling"?

wonlasewonimi: Now, this sociopath is pushing it. How many luggages are you traveling with?

Seriously, you need to find a job. Being a crusader on nl doesn't put food on the table.

person! Which international school did you go to?

Was "curses attracted to you"?

You should be grateful for my crusades. Without my crusade you would never have realised how moronic you were and how your educational background failed you.

And, person, it is spelt "travelling".

wonlasewonimi: Despite the fact that your placenta was fed to the rabid dogs in sagamu, you still had some sensible things to say.

person, your moronic asss can never even come to the level of making more sense than me when I was 6 years old.

ebere1712: You don't need regular central electrical system to operate a social security scheme. Note that I am not saying that social security scheme is a solution to poverty. I am saying that we need to keep people sane by making sure that nobody is suffering to the extent that he/she can't feed. Things are spiralling out of control, and would continue like this unless people are treated with more respect. My take is that, even if it costs a significant part of the budget, do it!!!!!!!!
Tax middle class and rich people more if you have to. Social security is to be for the extremely poor. These poor people are being fuc.ked over, and when they realise this (which they soon will), they would mess everybody over. Children hawking in streets with no prospects to their lives, and you are busy building dual carriage ways, who do you think would drive on those roads (you or them).

Regular light/power should be priority over some social security.

ebere1712: This doesn't take too long to do. Simply promise people medical discounts for familes that can't afford medical bills, and social security if you are in extreme poverty and watch people flood into registration offices to register with you. Campaign enough for this and you would be suprised how many people would do biometric registration. This ought to have been done years ago, and as understand is on its way.

Really?

It does not take long?

In a country without a border?

You promise people that believe in winches (that is "witches" to those that speak proper English), that use local medicine (babalawo) and live far away from government healthcare facilitiess, medical discounts and you think that would get you a flood of people to register to use the facilities.

They (a populace with 70% illiteracy, plus another 25% under-literate fucktards like wonlasewonimi) will come and partake in biometric registration? Lets not forget this is the same biometric systems you paid 5 times the normal retailing price to obtain as the contract was inflated.

Bruv, abeg let me laff for a minute, my belle dey ache.



Ye! Ye! Ye!

MY BELLE O, MY HEAD O!

If I may ask, how old are you? How many years of work experience do you have? Have you ever worked on a change, transformation or programme management project? What do you know about those kinds of projects?

ebere1712: Serious point made here. Still pretty easy to solve.

Pretty easy?

Please enlighten me, bruv.

ebere1712: More reason why biometric identification would be a success, because you stand a chance of being arrested if you have no identification to prove you are Nigerian.

ROFLMAO!!!

You are going to arrest people for not being Nigerians?

How would you know who is Nigerian?

Who will enforce this verification and arrests?

Where will the funds to enforce it come from?

What proportion of your enforcers do you think is not bribable?

What is the cost-benefit realisation you expect to get if you fund it?

After "arresting" them (your wishful thinking is being honoured)? Lets say 2m people arrested. Then what? .......You will put them in jail and fund that too?

Wow!

Bruv, HOW OLD ARE YOU? What is your professional background?

ebere1712: A direct consequence of indifference of government to plight of poor Nigerians. It is a misconception that Nigerian Government is corrupt, the truth is that Nigerian People are corrupt. It is a consequence of neglect and hopelessness. Give people a feeling that this is a genuine state and rescue poor people from extreme poverty; whilst building the internal economy for self sustenance, and genuine wealth creation.

This one na grammar. And I like your grammar. Mo o paror, o sor grammar to da (I am not lying, you are speaking good grammar).

As Fela would summarise jocularly: Misconception of direct corrupt consequence of genuine internal economy of neglected sustenance creation.

AHH! Grammar!

Oya, speak in Ijebu to me. Tell me how you intend to set up an efficient and reliable social security programme under such a corrupt culture.

ebere1712: Statistics by whom, and poverty by who's standard. I am not speaking for the average joe that can afford three square meals, I am speaking for people in close enough situation with beggars on the street.

Ah! Oooo! Okay! Oga, tell me what your standard for assessing poverty is then.

ebere1712: I am a strong beliver in the saying that you get what you bargained for. Nigeria's very poor have not even be given the chance to bargain.

This one na grammar.

Telemi, howu you go set up social security.

ebere1712: Ok what do we do. Do we just sit down and die off or debate with the fucktards. Nigerians are a product of their environment. The environment can change.

Go and read up on change management and understand the challenges, effort applied, complexity, controls attainable and length of time before you can change a culture.

ebere1712: My question to you my friend is, how is it done in other climes? Protest seriously for this and I guarantee you they would figure it out (this is the responsibility of Government)

I know we don't want people leeching off the government, but we have to be human.

Tax middle class and Rich Nigerians more if you can't raise the money from other avenues. This should be up there in priority of Nigeria. As I am talking to you now, I see no reason why any poor Nigerian should be patriotic. What has the nation ever done for them. There are many wastages going on in government, plug the holes and get more money to fund a social security scheme. Let people be able to feed first. If you listen to the lyrics, you would hear him calling poor people pu*ssies and urging them to fight for better treatment. This either happens or the social crises in Nigeria degenerates to a point where even draconian laws can't subdue people. Alleviate the suffering with some form of social security, whilst putting together more lasting solutions to extreme poverty in Nigeria (Am talking creating jobs, technical education, on the job training, conducive business environment, direct government investment in key areas like machinery )

A country that does not have regular light.

A country that does not have a national database of its people to know the demographics.

A country that does not have efficient taxation of all its people.

A country that does not have control of its borders.

A country that does not have a transparent culture.

A country that has 80% of its people below poverty line.

A country where the national culture is to be dishonest, dubious and criminal.

A country that is majority populated by fucktards like elewon-lasewonimi.

Is a country you want to establish a social security programme?

Come off it, son!

Advanced countries and sub-advanced countries are the ones that provide social security, not Banana republics. It would be a national scam and shamble.

Use the money to strengthen infrastructure, education and security, then see how people would find a way to take care of themselves.

carefreewannabe: they'll need to find themselves women who TRULY agree to polygamy.

don't think monogamy is only frustrating and painful to men. and believe me, it would be so convenient to women to have multiple partners, too. like it or not.

So why are you arguing against polygamy then?

Let the women find men who TRULY agree to monogamy.

If you are married to a man that wants to practice polygamy, you will have laws there to divorce him.

ebere1712: After watching this video go and do another fuel subsidy protest you fuc.king morons. Nigerians no get shame. How hard is it to increase taxation and providing atleast food stamps for the poor. You people waited till they started making videos to insult you. Don't worry, more of this stuff is coming. SOCIAL SECURITY NAIJA!!!!!

What a steewpid suggestion!!!

Social security ko, social warfare ni!

Explain to me how you want to provide social security in Nigeria.

wonlasewonimi: SaGAYmite...luggagious luggages

person! Do you speak English?

wonlasewonimi: Bloody night security guard that was sacked at asda for molesting mannequins.

Let me help you say it...person.

person, WAS THAT ENGLISH?

It is good you are acknowledging what you are.

wonlasewonimi: Dodoyo that can't even find a day job wants to be a supehuman to solve Nigeria's problems.

Don't go and queue for your weekly dole... be flexing ishan on nairaland.

Is that English, person?

maryjames9: Watch what u say and be careful of ur wishes. For every finger u point at someone,four is directed at you. Goodluck and Patience are no magician who could change the situation of this nation that has gone through decades of corruption,decay due to bad administration. They are humans too. You Sagamite can't do a better job,so watch ur senseless posts and wishes. As far as i am concerned,these are just rumors,could be fabrications. And i dare say that Nigeria has her challenges in the health sector and thereby need time and concerted efforts both from d FG and stakeholders in education sector to match the technology and sophistication in Germany but b4 that,there is nothing bad in giving the first lady the best service. Though nobody is an angel

You are a moooron!

You like that new one?

Foooool! I can't what? Even if I was inebriated 24/7, 365 days a year, I would do 10 times better than the cretin your dumb arsse voted for!

Yes, they are humans. Some of us are superhumans!

A cretin that cannot dock anyone involved in the bribe cases like Halliburton or Safran that other conspirators have been jailed for in Western countries is the foool you want to compare to me?

The same person woman that went to welcome Bode George after he was released for corruption is the one you want me to wish well?

How are you going to get to the level of Germany when the gorilla you voted for is happy for people to loot the money? But then he wants to send his own wife abroad not to face the consequences while Nigerians die at 49 on average? And your cretinous arsse is coming here to defend them?

Baboon citizen of a Banana Republic!

wonlasewonimi: Sagalicious grammar

You are a cretin!

Is death "attracted" to her?

thelastPope: NO American president will give you details of their family's medical record except they want to and NO American will demand it if they don't! I will not repeat myself. That is the law. You don't argue with the law except you have a psychiatric problem! I hope you don't!! If you do say "aye" and we will look for help for you!!!

You are a person!

Tell me which American President has refused to give details of his family's medical condition, cretin!

thelastPope: Who gave you permission to get up? You are being naughty!

And this word "person". Is it the first word your teacher taught you? Are you sure you were not ...>... at six years. Talk oh! You might need help. I can give you a number. You never know who can help!

You are a person!

That is the word my teacher taught me to use for deadwits that give moronic arguments.

Tell me which American President has refused to give details of his family's medical condition, cretin!

Widow[size=14pt]er[/size]'s houseboy!

thelastPope: Haba! No vex nah! How can I deny to be Beaf, your master? Haba! I accept. So please bow down to your lord Beaf. Take a picture with your etisalat double sim phone and post it here! Oya! I am waiting!

person, your daft asss that will shout "Fresh Air" even when Jonathan dumps watery shyt on your head cannot even qualify to be master of the gateman, talkless of Jonathan's God!

thelastPope: Since you are missing Beaf so much, try and send him a private message. Maybe he will answer you! Or demand his email from Seun since it is in the public domain! Afterall, Seun is eating Nigerians money! Anofia!

No American president will give you details of his family medical condition if he doesn't want to. And no American will demand for it. They know the laws. They are not as ignorant as you!

On a second note, the American president might not find it too hard to release medical info if it isn't the kind that might have a psychological effect on the person involved because the American public do not exhibit witchcraft like you. They will all drop their partisan issues and pray for his/her recovery. They have value for life. Even murderers are accorded their rights. Not like a witches and ogboni infested lot like you. Lol

You are a person!

Continue denying you are Beaf. You think intelligent people can not spot a houseboy when they see one?

Tell me which American President has refused to give details of his family's medical condition, cretin! You think they run a Banana Republic where an illiterate First lady with a husband calls her self a widow[size=14pt]er[/size], yet she is appointed Perm Sec of Education to destroy cretins like you's lives?

FOOOOL!

thelastPope: And since it is not in the American laws too? Same applies to America abi? You can't be helped. I am sorry! Too much ignorance to fit in brainbox!!!

You are a person!

Is the american government not providing adequate healthcare system for its citizens?

Does the American government's first lady need to go to another country to avoid the dilapidated healthcare system their looting has caused?

If the American government's first lady goes abroad or even in the country for medical care, do you think the government would not release the details, talkless of daring to lie about it?

You are a person! You think I am joking or insulting you? Your brain is made of cement!

And don't think I don't know you are Beaf! Cretin!

[quote author=clemklintin@yah]We should all pray for her to come back in good health.[/quote]You pray and stick your prayer up your asss.

I will pray for her demise. She has exceeded her time on Earth considering the life expectancy (49 years old) of the country she is helping to destroy. She needs to paafuka like the people that cannot afford the healthcare our useless leaders cannot provide but use public funds to go and get abroad.

thelastPope: Is this the gospel according to Nigerian laws or according to your underdeveloped brain? Reboot your brain please. Maybe there is a bad sector somewhere. Thank you!

You are a person!

If is gospel to common sense, good governance and transparency!

If it is not in Nigerian law then that might be due to the fact fucktards like Umbrerra and Jonathan are running the country and being Perm Secs of education so we keep on creating under-educated cretins like you.

thelastPope: So when you go to a government hospital and receive free medical service and drugs funded by tax payers money, you suddenly loose your fundamental human rights and your privacy? You are sooooooo ignorant, I can actually smell the stench from my screen!!! Gosh!

You are a person!

If it is applying to only you, then it is the right of the public to know! FOOOOL!