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MaxNdu: ....This is a very strong statement

He is praying for those that are part of those that make Nigeria what it is today to be healthy and stay in power and continue ruling over us.

I am praying his family gets what he prays for.

Shikena!

By the way, that prayer I dash all those praying for her good health.

May you all get more distribution of bags of rice.

May you all get more Perm Secs of Education like Patience to determine the quality of education given to your kids.

May you all get leaders that will give you substandard healthcare they (the leaders) will refuse to use themselves.

Katsumoto: You are deliberately obfuscating so as to blur the lines of the debate.

I take you back to your original premise, which is that all men have a religion.

You have used Oprah has an example just because someone described it as such. You are yet to prove that all men have religion.

The easiest angle to introduce to support that is to suggest that sleeping and eating are religions.


In any case, I am still waiting for you to prove that Fela said religion was bad.

You really get time to waste!

I just call a person a person the minute I see they are fucktards!

Waste your time for him to tell you eating chips is a religion.

Akpan107: Almighty and everlasting Father, i thank you for the gift of live, i commit the health of my beloved sister (petience) into your loving hands of care and healings. Lord, heal her and take the glory in Jesus name Amen.

She is definitely your sister. I can see how you 2 can possibly be related.

thelastPope: Just as Christianity is a metaphor for the life Jesus lived. You making the same mistakes all over again. Trying to create different standards and positions for those you cherish is always a fruitless exercise that will come back and bite you in the butt.

And hip hop is indeed a religion registered with the state of New York. That's a fact and you need to update yourself.

And this is the last I will respond to you until you grow up. I don't engage kids or juveniles. Sorry!

You are a person!

Next thing you will be saying is that vulcanizing and beer drinking are religions.

Proper cretin! Don't go and learn what a religion is.

ledafaze: Father in the Name of Jesus,

Lord God, the first and the last... the one that opens and no one dare shut... I praise you for the life you have given us all. You said in your word that we have been given authority and all we have to do is to exercise the authority given us. I pray now Lord Jesus, He that walks in the midst of seven lamp stands and holds seven stars at his right hand... I pray oh Lord, that you should please in your infinite mercy have mercy on Patience Jonathan so that she can be well.

Please dear lord, heal her in her bones, heal her in the system, heal her in her water, heal her in her blood... Dear Lord, heal her from her sicknesses oh Lord.

I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan
I pray Lord, please have mercy on Patience Jonathan


Father, as we pray, let thy will be done in all.

In Jesus Name
Amen

May your family and descendents live the lives provided by the leaders you pray for.

May they never live a life better than what those leaders intentionally give your society.

F00028: its not an excuse.

dead is dead anywhich way. you cant get that thru your dense skull. if did you would stop echoing that imbecilic alibi : "did he kill in the name if God"

You are a person!

We are talking about religion and killing, your dumb arsse is defending and excusing islamic religious killing by pointing out the effects of all types of killing.

Cretin!

Your type are the number one problem of Islam. The person muslims that would refuse to condemn those that kill in the name of their God.

And then whine when the world hates your religion!

thelastPope: More from New York Times:

www.nytimes.com/2011/05/28/us/28beliefs.html?_r=0

Oprah started subtly but has graduated now. Serious new age stuff

thelastPope: Nypost.com not a reliable site? You kidding me. Even ABC has it on their site. Please I cant use my bandwidth for you. Are you on 20mb Etisalat? Haba. Google is your friend. The videos are all over youtube. They have started having services already. Abeg don't be lazy joor! Update yourself. Hip hop is also registered as a religion for so many years now. KRS 1 even calls himself the prophet of hiphop while African Bambata is the Amam Ra! Pay attention my friend.

You are a mooron!

Because some people used religion as a metaphor for the atmosphere Oprah creates, that is proof Oprah has started a religion?

Hip-hop is a religion my arsse!

F00028: you have a very limited vocabulary.


it hurts just as much!

the victims are still dead, maimed, rap.ed...

What a moronic excuse for religious fanaticism!

Is it sane for people to find excuses to kill others for a God?

Is it sane for a religion to tell people to kill others?

Is it sane for religious people to kill others arbitrarily for something that offends them done by other people 1000s of miles away?

You reason like a person, that is why I called you a person!

Pukkah: The level of sycophancy in Nigeria today is sickening! It is so irritating.



Are you minding them? In their sycophantic bid to overreach themselves, they have labelled as liars the woman's husband and the entire presidency.

If the followership in the country is this gullible and unthinking, any wonder the country is in such a parlous state?



It is so unfortunate but you are right. I really don't know what exactly is wrong with Nigerians.

There are proper cretins!

The corruption has dilapidated our education system.

Majority are now products of a failed education system with brains still at the development level of baboons.

They are now Baboon citzens of a Banana Republic.

Utter cretins!

Kakability: I guess you want to get paid for this thread. Even in ur prayers u still left out other people dat are critical ill with no money to pay their bills instead u concentrated on someone that dont even need ur prayers to survive. I believe u saw the pictures of bomb blast victims but no prayers was put to them. First lady my foot. Eye service nigerian.

Don't mind the person!

F00028: whether he killed them in the name of God or abraham lincoln IT IS STILL MURDER!

and all that time your God didn't counsel him in their regular chats.

You are a person!

So how is that comparable to people that kill in the name of their God?

FOOOOL!

thelastPope: Just a few links. Please use your own bandwidth. Bandwidth is expensive:

m.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/eat_pray_love_oprah_8HUBevZzxvyUjKdvwX1DXJ

westerngh.com/2010/04/oprah-winfrey-opens-church-founds-religion/

Do you know hip hop is a registered religion?

Do this look like reliable sources to you?

Try and bring something from reliable sources.

For those of you praying for her, you are all professional fucktards:

https://www.nairaland.com/1053207/patience-jonathan-yet-stabilise-hospital/7#12298552

There is no other mainstream religion, bar Islam, or geographic people, bar Arabs, where it is acceptable for people to resort to "wish for Death" as preliminary approach to settle issues or where people raise kids to wish death on others and those that do are heroes (martyrs).

https://www.nairaland.com/1056934/anti-islam-movie-demonstration-kaduna#12301289

Only in Islam and mainly in Arab societies is such rampant.

They are violent people. Lets not be politically correct.

thelastPope: Google is your friend. Use it. Don't be lazy. Study. Oprah has formed a religion from preaching that she doesn't believe in religion. That's where they always end up because they are either ignorant or being mischievious and deceitful.

Show us the link of the religion Oprah formed.

Point to us who/what they worship, the rituals and the other religious behaviours.

I wait.

F00028: abeg help me tell am.

You are a person!

You are still yet to tell me if he attack in the name of God? Foool!

Katsumoto: You are mad. Gbonaa ko gbedii ni. Yeye man

Katsumoto: Please read Bernard Lewis' "The Roots of Muslim Rage" where he traces the origins of rage from the conception of the religion, the requirements of followers to wage war when necessary, to imperialism and emasculation of the Muslim male.

I have not even read the book but I am inchoately already self-formulating similar perception from my little research as people that have done large-scale research and written a book.

Kai! Mo wah extremely intelligent! Mo Gbonaa! (I am extremely intelligent! I am hot!)

[quote author=m.k.o2005]We are called to live a christ like life !
Religion seeks to follow rituals and set down dogmas !
Christ never came to establish a religion but to reveal a life style ! Surprisingly,most people see Christianity as a religion ! But actually,it's not.[/quote]This is what I am talking about when I say people try and imitate the life and ways of their most prominent messenger!

gbadexy: Arabs are naturally violent and aggressive, it is actually prophet Muhammad that tamed them through Islam.
They bury their daughters alive, commit violent acts at the slightest provocation and it was the prophet that stopped these.

No doubt he tamed them and improved them but not to the degree of being non-violent.

He reduced and refined it, he did not eliminate it by any stretch of the word.

gbadexy: The prophet was uncompromising and detests oppression and injustice and he didn't attack innocent people. The jews were living peacefully in jerusalem during the time of the prophet and muslim domination generally.

No, the Prophet did oppress.

He took slaves, took loot, killed off whole clans after victory & their surrender, ordered a torture and exploited defeated people.

The Jews were allowed to live peacefully as long as they accepted the oppression. We still have that kind of oppression in modern day Islamic countries in the Middle East! And some people in the North of Nigeria are keen to do the same.

Those are examples of when I say people imitate their icons.

AjanleKoko: So were Vikings, Norsemen, Huns, Barbarians, Franks etc. Yet Charlemagne is regarded as the father of modern-day Europe by most historians. No history tome is complete if there's no reference to Jenghiz Khan, the great emperor of the steppe. These guys were all barbarians, bloody butchers. The only reason why we don't hear these names anymore is simple: Their time don pass.

They can't be, they did not speak to God!

If one of them claimed to have spoken to God, then he would be the father of modern day Europe, that is how daft human beings are.

If Ghengis Khan had only added the dimension of God to his conquest we would have a Khanirite religion today. He did not, so he cannot be a father of nothing.

Mohammed's time WILL NEVER pass, he played the God angle.

AjanleKoko: Forget all the religious small talk and slogans: Moslem extremism is the manifestation of 20th-century oppression of a large number of indigenous Moslem people, brought about by Western imperialists and the puppet leaders they installed in these countries. After all, Afghans, Tamils, Abu Sayaf (in the Phillipines), Pakistanis, are not Arabs ke.

Partly so but I will say it categorically that if it was not A, "20th-century oppression of a large number of indigenous Moslem people", it would have been B, some other excuse.

I have noted, muslim societies do not like to be dominated but are happy to dominate others. Reality is that in real life, one group will always dominate another. And it will not always be muslims that will end up dominating, hence you will find it hard to keep them happy.

I am sure it is not because of "20th-century oppression of a large number of indigenous Moslem people" that Abu Sayyaf are choosing to terrorise others, or my paddies, Boko Haram are choosing to blow up people. It is purely another reason.

AjanleKoko: Let's not stereotype Arabs. I work with a lot of them, and they are just like everyone else. Imagine stereotyping Nigerians because of Boko Haram or Tompolo's boys. The violence going on around the world today has nothing to do with religion, but more to do with striking a blow at the perceived oppressors.

The emphasis is "work with".

You are of the educated class, so I am sure people you work with will be of the educated class. Never use the educated class to make a generalisation of the people.

No people are utterly violent in my view, but I can confidently say the proclivity of violence is, and proportion of violent people are, higher in the Arab and Muslim society.

That is a cultural phenomena.

I will direct you to the cultural web thing I gave you last year. Mohammed is part of the myths and stories that shape the cultural paradigm of Arabs. The scimitars and other swords/daggers used in their flags and other picturial representation, shooting in the air as celebration and murals of martyrs with guns are all part of the symbols that shape the cultural paradigm of Arabs. Sharia (pretty violent legal system) is part of their control systems that shape the cultural paradigm of Arabs.

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bakila: Simply uninformed.

Go ahead, inform me.

AjanleKoko: Holy Book ke.
Though the fellow is right after a fashion; Moslem activism on a global scale started in earnest after the British drove the Ottomans from the Middle East, and a lot of puppet regimes were empowered. Moslems never had widespread access to Western Europe prior to then. The Ottomans ruled a significant portion of Eastern Europe and the Middle East, and was an alternative power to the Christian West back in those days.

Latter-day Moslem activism is by and large a product of Western Imperialism, to be honest.

I disagree.

Mohammed is an icon that shaped the thinking and being of majority of his people (Arab people).

People are going to model themselves on such icon that they also see as a Prophet that speaks to God.

Mohammed was a warrior in the 5th century. He was a warrior that had little qualms in waging war, taking slaves and dominating conquered people if one goes to read about his history.

These approach has been embedded in the culture of Arabs since then (5th century).

It is even evident from their mode of celebration (swords and shooting in the air) till this day.

It is a no-brainer people of respective religions would model themselves on their most prominent messenger.

Arabs are aggressive people that will turn to violence if they feel offended especially by non-muslims.

And as Mohammed said in his farewell speech, they should respect fellow muslims. That is part of the reasons why they they treat other muslims different to non-muslims.

gbadexy: Hey gay.amite let me take you to school from my previous post.
I have often read comments on NL about why
it appears that most terrorist organizations are
islamic affiliated and I want to try and give a
reasonable response to those assertions.
Before 1930 during the relocation of the jews
on palestinian land, the arabs were not
aggressive and intolerant to their neighbors.
The change in the attitude appears to be
perceived injustice done to the palestinians by
the americans in settling the jews on their land
and turning them to refugees in their own land
based on some obscure tale of 1500 years ago.
During those early occupation, there were
reports of massive isreali aggression on the
palestinians with killing of even pregnant
women and seizing of their villages. The leader
of the assault was menachem begin, he was
declared a TERRORIST and wanted for war
crime but he later became isreals prime
minister. Here is a link to details of his terror
gang and the initiator of terrorism in the
middle east. www.palestineremembered.com/
Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story703.html
He and shamir waged terror on british and
palestinians during world war two and was
wanted by the british authority as a terrorist
while he and his partner were famous for
civilian massacre. Visit DEIR YASSIN for details.
As a result of the perceived injustice done to
the palestinians by the isreali backed by
america, several arab countries attacked isreal
in 1973 but were defeated by the isrealis that
have sophisticated american weapons.
That has being the genesis of the hatred of the
americans by the arab who see them as
oppressors. So what happened was the
emergence of militant organizations fighting
against oppression in palestinia not unlike the
militants in nigeria's niger delta region. Such
groups call themselves freedom fighters while
the opposition calls them terrorist.
The major issue seems to be about land and
not about religion and as the arabs are
predominantly muslims, such terror groups
formed by them would have islamic coloration
while it is purely a poltical radical pressure
group.
Also, religious sentiments are exploited by
these groups and they mislead gullible devoted
muslims into believing their political struggle is
a religious one so as to have willing followers.
History does repeat itself and I read about
great generals both in nigeria and abroad
reading military history.
Such religious manipulation has being in
existence since the medieval era where the
POPE controls the kings in europe by
withdrawing his bishops from a kingdom
leading to revolt by the superstitious populace
who believed they won't go to heaven if they
die and the priests do not perform burial rites
for them. They cannot also wed or christen
their children also, so as the people revolt, the
monarchs defer to the pope and the
excommunication is reversed.
Also, when the pope noticed the rise in the
spread of islam and its territories, fearing for
loss of influence, he called for volunteers to free
God's city ; jerusalem from the muslims and
that those that die are promised automatic
admission into heaven, not unlike what these
terror groups tell simple minded devoted
people.
So my point is that these terror groups have
political ideology which they implement by
using religion which they know people are
sentimental about.
That is the reason why religion was banned in
communist russia and described as the opium
of the people due to the way the religious
leaders were manipulating people with it.
Prophet mohammad that is being insulted by
some ignorant people expressly cautioned
against excesses and preaches moderation in
praying, fasting and everything. He was known
to have cautioned someone reported to pray
and read the the whole Quran every night on
moderation[muslims that disagree should go to
index in Quran and look for
moderation,explanation would be at the foot
notes].
So we as enlightened people should be able to
be objective and enlighten others instead of
preaching hate like the terrorists.

You are a person!

Mooron! So it is only after 1947 that Arabs became aggressive?

AjanleKoko: The Pope, Pope Urban II.
Impoverished knights and noblemen rushed to the 'defence' of Jerusalem in the Second Crusade. At the end of the day, the nobles, led by Godfrey of Bouillion, Robert of Normandy, and Robert of Flanders, divided up the Holy Land between themselves.

The Europeans made a habit of slaughtering both Jews as well as Saracens in those crusades.

I guessed as much: One man?

It was not in some Holy book?

gbadexy: Who is this bloody bas.tard?
Son of a basta.rd!
What do you know of history, why don't you point out facts instead of showing your ignorance, slow poison gentleman christian.

You are a person!

Mooron! So it is only after 1947 that Arabs became aggressive?

Cretinous product of a failed education system speaking from his anus!

bokohalal: Christians were also once promised earthly and heavenly rewards if they fought the 'mohammedans' in the 'holy land' of Jerusalem.

By whom?

F00028: u be bigger mu.mu if you think all those dead, maimed and ravaged people care in whose name they were attacked.

can't a man so close to the christian God receive better counsel?

You are a fuctard!

Did he attack in the name of God? Foool!

gbadexy: Christians are hypocrites not after truth. I prefer the firm and sometimes violent muslims to gentleman slow poison hypocrite.
I always ask a simple question, was there anything like arab aggression to the west and isreal before 1947 and was there terrorism? Wasn't arab hostility and emergence of terror groups as a result of the evacuation of the palestinians from there lands by america?
I wonder if many christians can get their heads out of their butt to think and reflect.

You are a person!

Go and read your history books before opening your mouth like a buffoon again.

F00028: for real?
was the born again christian american president (who regularly spoke to God) that invade iraq under false pretences killing, maiming, rap.ing thousands of people a follower of Islam too

You are fooool!

Because he was born again and regularly spoke to God means he attacked in the name of God?

Try again with moronic excuses!

[quote author=Ile-Ife]The truth, alas, is that the science fiction archetype of the mad scientist who craves to dominate the world has been replaced by the mad cleric who can only conceive of the world in his own image, proudly flaunting Bond’s Double-0-7 credentials – Licensed to Kill. The sooner national leaders and genuine religious leaders understand this, and admit that no nation has any lack of its own dangerous loonies, be they known as Ansar-Dine of Mali, or Terry Jones of Florida,[/quote]This part is politically correct junk.

As far as I am aware, Terry Jones has not killed or demanded with substantial authority for others to kill anybody.

Lets call a spade a spade. The vast majority of people that flash their Licence to Kill are followers of Islam. Lets not be politically correct about it, lets point the finger where it belongs by naming the moronic clerics that instruct killings but yet are revered or respected by a significant proportion of people in their homeland and by followers of their religion, without other islamic clerics publicly denouncing or challenging them.

jennykadry: The world is as it is right now because we are trying to please everybody. The only mortal people I am answerable to are: my parents, my husband, my Sagamite, my clients and my children. Why are we so scared of our fellow human being? tell her playfully? Wich part of, this is my house and my rule must be abided to? Tis is the way women invite witches and wizards into their homes and then go on their knees to ask God silly questions. Even my own father informs us when he is visiting how much more, a non relative?

GBAM!

No relative of mine will just show up at the door, talkless of a stranger.

If it was a relative or friend, I am quite lad-dy (Omoboy international), I can deal with it.

A stranger, hell no.

A stranger with her husband and kid, dem curse am?

I take it you were busy when you composed it, so I have made amendments sha.