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MRbrownJAY: i guess you should go out, travel a little bit more (and i dont mean hotel resort), and then you will have a clear idea of people of this world........

Show me where you saw people refer to Rusiia as the West!

Show me the part of the world!

People, see MBL VERBOSITY to dodge a question!

MRbrownJAY: and since you STILL havent answered the question, i repeat:
WHAT IS YOUR FAIR SOLUTION TO THE MATTER OF DIVORCE SETTLEMENT?! (focus on the word FAIR, i didnt write FAIR TO DELUDED MEN)

Fck me Lawd!

Something is wrong with this man.

Here it is:

C - Sagacity, Saga Saga, Saga hit-it

- Couples should individually keep whatever they make before marriage.

- Couples should be entitled to their contribution in the marriage excluding child support. For the party that sacrifices a career due to the marriage (normally the woman):

She should get (1) What she contributed + (2) what she got from the marriage (e.g. assets and gifts) + (3) compensation for any opportunity cost based on a realistic* assessment of her earning potential + (4) any extras the husband wants to voluntarily give her

* What she realistically could have earned but sacrificed during the relationship
- by going on maternity leave to take care of their kids and/or
- by giving up a job to be a housewife or move closer to him and/or
- to follow him when he is transferred and she has to relocate and restart her career somewhere else and/or
- the potential rise in career that her aforementioned sacrifices lost her.

This realistic, not fairy-tale figures can be calculated by looking at the trajectory of her career and abilities she had built up before marriage and compare it with a normal distribution curve (in statistics, bell curve) of what her peers (the male ones) are earning without similar sacrifices, then something between the Mean (average) of the range and maximum of probably 3 standard deviations from the mean can be awarded. Maximum can be awarded in wealthier marriages where the women has demonstrated top of her peer group prior to marriage.

MRbrownJAY: so now, THE NEWS is the basis that we should all take to decide what THE WEST stands for?! are you talking CNN/BBC or common NTA news? lol....and is that today.s news or the news of the 80s? i am pretty sure that what was described as "the west" by these same news in the 80s, will be MUCH DIFFERENT today, but nice try sha!


why you keep repeating yourself?!...... to most Africans, any country populated by whites is considered the west.....and YES that means Russia etc that were INITIALLY thought as the east bloc......sadly today, any civilized country could be considered THE WEST, any developped nation could be considered THE WEST, any white populated country could be considered THE WEST......

Show me where you saw people refer to Russia and Brazil as the West?

Which beer parlour? What Waffi shekpe were they drinking?

No VERBOSITY! Just show!

MRbrownJAY: why you keep repeating yourself? do you have eyesight problems?!
YOUR proposal makes NO DAMN SENSE, unless you can tell me exactly what the wife who stopped working for the wellbeing of the family, stopped her working ambition for the betterment of the family, and took care of the family children for the wellbeing of the family, is taking back from all her years at home?
i guess to narrow minded men like Saga, a woman's place is in the kitchen and therefore thats what she will take for giving yrs to that family: pots and pans, lol!

but then again, when a man believes that bringing money home is MUCH MORE valuable and important than having someone you fully trust safely care for a family's children, is the reason why you will remain blind to the whole issue.........but hopefully, someday when you have kids THAT YOU LOVE DEARLY, you will understand what i mean.

C - Sagacity, Saga Saga, Saga hit-it

- Couples should individually keep whatever they make before marriage.

- Couples should be entitled to their contribution in the marriage excluding child support. For the party that sacrifices a career due to the marriage (normally the woman):

She should get (1) What she contributed + (2) what she got from the marriage (e.g. assets and gifts) + (3) compensation for any opportunity cost based on a realistic* assessment of her earning potential + (4) any extras the husband wants to voluntarily give her

* What she realistically could have earned but sacrificed during the relationship
- by going on maternity leave to take care of their kids and/or
- by giving up a job to be a housewife or move closer to him and/or
- to follow him when he is transferred and she has to relocate and restart her career somewhere else and/or
- the potential rise in career that her aforementioned sacrifices lost her.

This realistic, not fairy-tale figures can be calculated by looking at the trajectory of her career and abilities she had built up before marriage and compare it with a normal distribution curve (in statistics, bell curve) of what her peers (the male ones) are earning without similar sacrifices, then something between the Mean (average) of the range and maximum of probably 3 standard deviations from the mean can be awarded. Maximum can be awarded in wealthier marriages where the women has demonstrated top of her peer group prior to marriage.


Tell me what is wrong with it and why your proposal is better.

MRbrownJAY: who cares what the bible says?! we are talking about the 10COMMANDMENTS,(just like you are ONLY talking/focussing of the marriage VOWS) duh!
the 10commandments does NOT talk about repentance, it only give you THE LAW (just like marriage vows) but we all know that there are fine prints (aka the bible/divorce).

the 10commandments brought down by Moses does specifically talk about the law, no IFs BUTs or MAYBEs. where is repentance in the 10commandments?!

use your brain and simply COMPARE the marriage vows as THE 10COMMANDMENTS, and divorce as REPENTANCE IN THE BIBLE, duh!
and yet you call yourself the don dada of NL when you cant even think like a child, with such an easy example, lol!

You have LOST YOUR MIND!

You brought up the bible and then say "who cares what the bible says".

YOU DON CRASE!

MRbrownJAY: i guess you believe that any African moving to Russia wouldnt say that he is moving to the west, lol.....and thats why you have a lot to learn, and MBJ needs to educate you on the issue. many of the people moving abroad dont have a clue about what was considered the west in the 80s, to many the west is anywhere mostly populated by white people (how you put China and India in there is one of your latest trick i guess, lol)

and since Brazil is mostly populated by whites, they would equally say the same thing.......but keep repeating yourself as you always do, like a kid wanting a candy.

Look at this man.

So if one African is ignorant, that justifies your stewpid classification?

So, let me condescend to your level, if one African is moving to China then and regards them as White, then China is part of the West then? MBJ, na you o!

Which African have you head moving to Russia that said he is moving to the West?

Show us!

MBJ Logica is "educating" me on conjectures to defend stewpid statements. Waapaa! MBJ Logica!

MRbrownJAY: and i repeat: WHAT IS YOUR FAIR SOLUTION TO THE MATTER OF DIVORCE SETTLEMENT?! (focus on the word FAIR, i didnt write FAIR TO DELUDED MEN)

Ah, ah!

Abi bobo yi wa reetarded ni? (Or is this guy reetarded?)

READ IT! IT IS ALL FCKING THERE!

MRbrownJAY: the fact that you even call Russia the "east bloc" shows us all how narrow minded you think, as if any people of today automatically think with your 80s era mentality. Russia WAS east bloc during the cold war, but that era is long gone and most people (especially younger ones) dont think like you do any longer. the minute you realize that, is the minute you will have a chance to learn something.

if you believe that Africans who now move to white populated WORLD SUPERPOWER Russia dont consider themselves living in the west, then you have a lot to learn, son.

i guess i have to repeat myself, since you do: to most Africans, any country populated by whites is considered the west.....and YES that means Russia etc that were INITIALLY thought as the east bloc......sadly today, any civilized country could be considered THE WEST, any developped nation could be considered THE WEST, any white populated country could be considered THE WEST......

Don't be dumb! That is the origins of the term and that is the prevailing understanding of it. Not your "anywhere that has a population of whites".

If you listen to the news, that is the general terms they still use.

You want to BS! Put your hands up in the air and say you made an error. OR:

Show me where you saw Brazil being labelled part of the West! Then, secondly, show me where you saw Russia being labelled part of the West!

Where did you see it, don't through your conjectures as facts.

Don't be coogaring. You can't tell me red is black!

MRbrownJAY: and i repeat, YOUR proposal makes NO DAMN SENSE, unless you can tell me exactly what the wife who stopped working for the wellbeing of the family, stopped her working ambition for the betterment of the family, and took care of the family children for the wellbeing of the family, is taking back from all her years at home?
i guess to narrow minded men like Saga, a woman's place is in the kitchen and therefore thats what she will take for giving yrs to that family: pots and pans, lol!

but then again, when a man believes that bringing money home is MUCH MORE valuable and important than having someone you fully trust safely care for a family's children, is the reason why you will remain blind to the whole issue.........but hopefully, someday when you have kids THAT YOU LOVE DEARLY, you will understand what i mean.

Are you reetarded?

READ IT! IT IS THERE!

Then let us know which proposal makes more sense and why.

MRbrownJAY: who said repentance was not "in the bible"?
read the 10commandments and then show me where it talks about repentance?!.....so if we go by YOUR way of thinking, these are the words that we should go by, and they are final........while i am telling you that you should look at the fine print instead of thinking the way you do. let me hear you say AMEN!!!!!

So you know repentence is in the bible?

The bible says follow the 10 commandments, and when you have not done so so far, repent and you will be forgiven, then follow the commandments after repentance. IT IS ALL IN THE BIBLE. The bible did not say only read the 10 commandments. Read everything and follow everything. There is no fine print in the bible.

Who are you BSing?

Where is divorce in the vows of wedding?

Why did you use such senseless analogy?

MRbrownJAY: i guess you believe that any African moving to Russia wouldnt say that he is moving to the west, lol.....and thats why you have a lot to learn, and MBJ needs to educate you on the issue. many of the people moving abroad dont have a clue about what was considered the west in the 80s, to many the west is anywhere mostly populated by white people (how you put China and India in there is one of your latest trick i guess, lol)

and since Brazil is mostly populated by whites, they would equally say the same thing.......but keep repeating yourself as you always do, like a kid wanting a candy.

Look at this man.

So if one African is ignorant, that justifies your stewpid classification?

So, let me condescend to your level, if one African is moving to China then and regards them as White, then China is part of the West then? MBJ, na you o!

Which African have you head moving to Russia that said he is moving to the West?

Show us!

MBJ Logica is "educating" me on conjectures to defend stewpid statements. Waapaa! MBJ Logica!

MRbrownJAY: and i repeat: WHAT IS YOUR FAIR SOLUTION TO THE MATTER OF DIVORCE SETTLEMENT?! (focus on the word FAIR, i didnt write FAIR TO DELUDED MEN)

Ah, ah!

Abi bobo yi wa reetarded ni? (Or is this guy reetarded?)

READ IT! IT IS ALL FCKING THERE!

MRbrownJAY: the fact that you even call Russia the "east bloc" shows us all how narrow minded you think, as if any people of today automatically think with your 80s era mentality. Russia WAS east bloc during the cold war, but that era is long gone and most people (especially younger ones) dont think like you do any longer. the minute you realize that, is the minute you will have a chance to learn something.

if you believe that Africans who now move to white populated WORLD SUPERPOWER Russia dont consider themselves living in the west, then you have a lot to learn, son.

i guess i have to repeat myself, since you do: to most Africans, any country populated by whites is considered the west.....and YES that means Russia etc that were INITIALLY thought as the east bloc......sadly today, any civilized country could be considered THE WEST, any developped nation could be considered THE WEST, any white populated country could be considered THE WEST......

Don't be dumb! That is the origins of the term and that is the understanding of it. Not your anywhere that has a population of whites.


If you listen to the news, that is the general terms they still use.

You want to BS! Put your hands up in the air and say you made an error. OR:

Show me where you saw Brazil being labelled part of the West! Then, secondly, show me where you saw Russia being labelled part of the West!

Where did you see it, don't through your conjectures as facts.

Don't be coogaring. You can't tell me red is black!

MRbrownJAY: and i repeat, YOUR proposal makes NO DAMN SENSE, unless you can tell me exactly what the wife who stopped working for the wellbeing of the family, stopped her working ambition for the betterment of the family, and took care of the family children for the wellbeing of the family, is taking back from all her years at home?
i guess to narrow minded men like Saga, a woman's place is in the kitchen and therefore thats what she will take for giving yrs to that family: pots and pans, lol!

but then again, when a man believes that bringing money home is MUCH MORE valuable and important than having someone you fully trust safely care for a family's children, is the reason why you will remain blind to the whole issue.........but hopefully, someday when you have kids THAT YOU LOVE DEARLY, you will understand what i mean.

Are you reetarded?

READ IT! IT IS THERE!

Then let us know which proposal makes more sense and why.

MRbrownJAY: who said repentance was not "in the bible"?
read the 10commandments and then show me where it talks about repentance?!.....so if we go by YOUR way of thinking, these are the words that we should go by, and they are final........while i am telling you that you should look at the fine print instead of thinking the way you do. let me hear you say AMEN!!!!!

So you know repentence is in the bible?

The bible says follow the 10 commandments, and when you have not done so so far, repent and you will be forgiven, then follow the commandments after repentance. IT IS ALL IN THE BIBLE. The bible did not say only read the 10 commandments. Read everything and follow everything. There is no fine print in the bible.

Who are you BSing?

Where is divorce in the vows of wedding?

Why did you use such senseless analogy?

Claus: At the risk of jumping into the middle of a tornado here, this discussion is missing a very important aspect by looking at just assets.

In a lot of non high profile divorces the splitting of liabilities actually becomes a very key aspect of settlements. Under current western laws, some people are unfortunately "blessed" with (50% or whatever %) liabilities that they had no hand in creating or were outside their control, but which were created within the marriage.

Beware that that is only in some few countries or regions of countries.

In others, you share any debt/liabilities that are in your joint names, while you keep the debt that is solely in your name. But these same countries will have laws that split your wealth. They will not split your debt. It is all part of laws to fck men up. To use them as cash cows for scorned women.

MRbrownJAY: ARGUING?! we are having a discussion, lol!

as i stated......"TO MANY", (aka most Africans) any country populated by whites is considered THE WEST. now just because there are "a few" whites in any country does not make that equation. Brazil is 50% white and therefore could/should be considered both a white and black populated country. i doubt Kenya and Zimbabwe could be considered the same, as the white population is below 10%. come on now!!!!

you are saying exactly what i am trying to drill into the head of Oga Saga. there are MANY basis to which someone can call a place "the west". the fact that Saga believe that we should only call a country "the west" because HE believe that only geo political/cultural zones matter, is his downfall!

Cut the bullshyt!

Even Africans recognise the West as the most developed and democratic countries, not places like Russia or Brazil or China or India!

MRbrownJAY: WHAT IS YOUR FAIR SOLUTION TO THE MATTER OF DIVORCE SETTLEMENT?! (focus on the word FAIR, i didnt write FAIR TO DELUDED MEN)

https://www.nairaland.com/878081/nigerian-billionaire-battles-british-wife/18#11879026

Answer! STOP DODGING! AND STOP FABRICATING STRAWMANS!

MRbrownJAY: to most Africans, any country populated by whites is considered the west.....and YES that means Russia etc that were INITIALLY thought as the east bloc......sadly today, any civilized country could be considered THE WEST, any developped nation could be considered THE WEST, any white populated country could be considered THE WEST......

yes it is to many around the world, but i guess to narrow minded Saga who think that what he believes is what everyone should believe, it aint. the day you start to open your mind rather than having this closed minded vision of the world, is the day you will have any chance of growing up.

BULLSHYT!

Russia is East Bloc! These are the Geo-political and Geo-cultural zones:

- The Western Bloc (which includes Australia and New Zealand)
- The Eastern Bloc (which includes most of the Balkans, China and former Russian countries)
- Latin America (which includes Brazil, Mexico and all the land countries leading to it)
- Sub-Indian continent (which includes India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)
- Asia Pacific (which includes Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam etc)
- The Carribeans
- The Middle East (which includes North African countries)
- Sub-Saharan Africa

When you make moronic conjectures and you are challenged, put your hands up and admit your errors. It is less painful. In not, you will just open yourself to humiliation especially when it is Saga.

Show me where you saw Brazil being labelled part of the West! Then, secondly, show me where you saw Russia being labelled part of the West!

MRbrownJAY: and i repeat, YOUR proposal makes NO DAMN SENSE, unless you can tell me exactly what the wife who stopped working for the wellbeing of the family, stopped her working ambition for the betterment of the family, and took care of the family children for the wellbeing of the family, is taking back from all her years at home?
i guess to narrow minded men like Saga, a woman's place is in the kitchen and therefore thats what she will take for giving yrs to that family: pots and pans, lol!

but then again, when a man believes that bringing money home is MUCH MORE valuable and important than having someone you fully trust safely care for a family's children, is the reason why you will remain blind to the whole issue.........but hopefully, someday when you have kids THAT YOU LOVE DEARLY, you will understand what i mean.

Can you fcking read?

READ IT!

https://www.nairaland.com/878081/nigerian-billionaire-battles-british-wife/18#11879026

Or it is too intellectual for your brain?

MRbrownJAY: of course i do, just like you should admit that divorce is part of the terms of marriage.

So why were you trying to BS us that repentance was not in the bible? Another evidence of the difference between us? (you bring out rubbish)

Tell me where divorce is mentioned in the vows of marriage?

I wait. Maybe MBJ Logica will teach me something new. I am a very open-minded man.

God, I love Zapiro!

Simply the best cartoonist in the World!

jennykadry: ROTFLMAO. Can't one off you just throw in the towel? men and their egos. phewww

Throw in the towel?

Dirty woman.

So that I will be naked?

Just say you want to see my weapon and fine yansh.

The only 10 universities that do not have clearing places despite, for the first time the government having no cap on the number of AAB+ students a university can enrol, are all in my top 12.

The only 2 that are not, and offer clearing places, are Warwick and Edinburgh.

[size=18pt]Scramble for university places begins as doors close on those without top grades [/size]

[size=14pt]Students lacking AAB grades at A-level are being left in the cold as high-flyers muscle in[/size]

Universities were beginning to put up the "house full" signs to students without AAB passes or better at A-level yesterday – leaving thousands with lower grades struggling to clinch a place.

A survey by The Independent showed that many universities were only taking top-grade students through the clearing system, because the Government will only allow them to expand if they take such students.

That means, though, that the number of places for those with lower grades has been slashed by 20,000 to make way for the extra AAB students.

Southampton University was one of those stipulating a minimum of AAB on the clearing page of its website. It said it had "no fixed limit" on the numbers it was willing to accept.

The university said it was being approached by "large number of students" with lower grades whom it would normally take but who are being turned away because of the Government cap on numbers.

Exeter was also setting aside extra places through clearing for high-flying students. Nottingham said it had set aside an unspecified number of places for AAB students. And Sheffield said it was recruiting more students with AABs through clearing because of the government changes; a limited number of places – for example on its straight law course – were still available for those with ABBs, it said.

Oxford Brookes University was the first in this A-level round to say it was cutting student numbers this year, though it still had 300 places on offer through the clearing system. Sussex, said the government cap meant there were more opportunities for overseas students than for those from the UK.

Academic experts have predicted that the "squeezed middle" universities may cut student numbers this year as fewer places are available for those with lower-grade passes.

At least 10 universities said they were not taking part in clearing this year because all their places had gone. These included Oxford, Cambridge, the London School of Economics, St Andrews, University College London, King's College London, Bristol (even though it had offered 600 extra places this year), Durham and Imperial College, London.

Ucas, the Universities and Colleges Admissions Service, has revealed that 170,000 students are chasing around 50,000 places in the clearing system.

The survey also showed that the number of students accepting university places had risen to 379,635 yesterday, well below last year's 407,722; 9,000 of these places were snapped up on the first day of clearing. A total of 70,591 were checking whether places were still available to them.

Meanwhile, the University of Ulster revealed it had emailed offers for 400 places to the wrong students. The offers were later withdrawn.

ronkebp: And this will never end!!!!!! lol.....................come to think of it, why are you both (Saga and Brown.J) arguing??

I enjoy tormenting and humiliating people that won't accept facts, logic and objectivity. I am addicted. It is my cocaine.

MRbrownJAY: how dare you call his highness MBJ a question dodger, when you have not replied my ONLY question on this thread?! lol!

List the questions I have not answered.

MRbrownJAY: ok i will try to explain it to you ONCE more, like as if you were a kid:
to many, the west is any country populated by white/caucasians, so since Brazil IS also populated by whites, these people would consider Brasil "the west" ....it is simple mathematics. but of course, if we should think like dictator Saga and only believe that the west is what HE believes it is, then we have a long thread on our hands.

BULLSHITTER!

Since when did Brazil become part of the West?

Where did you see that? Explain to me. Show me.

So Russia is also part of the West because it is populated by white/caucasians? Who was your mathematics teacher? The one that said a third of 100% is 30%?

MRbrownJAY: OH i hadnt seen that little exposé of yours.....pls allow me to reply:

the logica of MBJ is that PEOPLE SHOULD SEPARATE WHAT THEY MAKE DURING MARRIAGE EQUALLY (30% for each parent, and the rest for children, DUH)

the logica of Saga is that WIVES WHO CARE FOR THEIR FAMILY SHOULD GET JUST THAT, AND GO OFF WITH THE KIDS AS SETTLEMENT, SINCE THATS WHAT THEY BROUGHT IN.

the important question is that which one of the two is "fairer" to ALL PARTIES?! focus on the important word ALL

You are a moooron!

I stated clearly my proposal there. Don't moronically try to strawman me.

Evaluate all the solutions and then answer the questions. DON'T DODGE!

MRbrownJAY: and you are 110% sure that there is no ground whatsoever for divorce, when one is married?! meaning that marriage are final and forever?!

So, first of all, you admit repentance is part of the terms of the bible?

MRbrownJAY: kai see the guy who says i dodge question when the ONLY question i asked has never been answered in 10+ pages, lol!

your tactic is to ask the same question over and over again, if/when you dont like the answer. as i said earlier, the definition of insanity is......

This are new unanswered questions that you are dodging.

Dodging! The difference.

Since when did Brazil become part of the West?

Where did you see that? Explain to me. Show me.

and

https://www.nairaland.com/878081/nigerian-billionaire-battles-british-wife/18#11879026

MRbrownJAY: as for the bible, i doubt it says any of the "if you repent" before or after the ten commandment, but nice try sha!

Another difference between us: Using rubbish to defend unratiocinated points.

But the bible clearly stated repenting is grounds for forgiveness of the sins (like breaking the commandments), did it not?

Abi how did you know:

MRbrownJAY: let me try another way to enlighten you........compare it as religion, when they say that a sinner will automatically go to hell....but if he later repents, he may be saved. so marriage is just the same, you have a contract for life, but if you decide to change, then you can get out of it!

but dont worry, i m very happy to educate you on the subject!

MRbrownJAY: ^^^bro you have been trying UNSUCCESSFULLY to drill your point on divorce settlement into this thread, and sadly you failed.
you then tried to make us all believe that a tennis player who never won a grand slam title in his life AND won about 1 tournament a year in his miserable carrer, is successful....and now to finish your failing streak, you want to start another debate on what is considered the west, lol! give it up son!

Dodging! The difference.

Since when did Brazil become part of the West?

Where did you see that? Explain to me. Show me.

and

https://www.nairaland.com/878081/nigerian-billionaire-battles-british-wife/18#11879026

I get a lot of pleasure humiliating people that refuse to take facts, logic and objectivity. I am addicted!

MRbrownJAY: the difference between you and I, is that i will gladly say i am wrong when i am, while you will keep on talking (even when it makes no sense).
as for AM, oh well, i guess you should bring back your GFs for more debate on the issue......where are they by the way?! lol!

No. The difference between you and me is that: I apply logic, objectivity and sense to everything I say and to every opinion I have. I evaluate whatever view is fed to me, no matter how popular and established the view is, and I critique to its foundations with superior brain power to accept it or formulate my own view. You don't and you consume it without any ratiocination. Then you try and make up rubbish to defend it when scrutinised and cornered by employing verbosity or you dodge the question, just like you are dodging this and you dodged the parent question earlier:

https://www.nairaland.com/878081/nigerian-billionaire-battles-british-wife/18#11879026

That is the core difference.

I get a lot of pleasure humiliating people that refuse to take facts, logic and objectivity.

MRbrownJAY: again, you first have to understand in what context you would say "THE WEST"....if you believe that ONLY your geo political/cultural is the definition of the west then you have a lot to learn.....especially when most Africans would tell you that the west is any country populated by white people (whether on your list or not). but then again, this is Saga i am discussing with, the man with the VERY narrow mind. lol

oh and also, what of countries considered the west because they are developped nations.....wouldnt you have a different list depending on who suddenly becomes a developped nation or not? or a different list from back in the 80 till today? as i said, the term THE WEST is very vague and wide. ask daddy and he will enlighten you.

VERBOSITY! I said it.

Since when did Brazil become part of the West?

Where did you see that? Explain to me. Show me.

MRbrownJAY: let me try another way to enlighten you........compare it as religion, when they say that a sinner will automatically go to hell....but if he later repents, he may be saved. so marriage is just the same, you have a contract for life, but if you decide to change, then you can get out of it!

but dont worry, i m very happy to educate you on the subject!

What a moronic comparison!

It SAYS in the Bible "if you repent", hence repenting is part of the terms!

USE YOUR SENSE!

Yorisb: Crase Man!

Saga, U no say MBJ na my Man ba?

That is not an excuse not to speak sense o try to BS Saga.

safarigirl: yet you dey here dey threaten fire and brimstone on top wife wey you no go ever marry. Nna coolu temper biko nu. So you no wan get pikin, abi you wan do Tu baba style?

I already have 18 pikins outside. I don't need more, I can't afford it.

MRbrownJAY: my bad, i thought i had mentioned the country to you, i guess i am thinking faster than i write......let me slow down for you sake.

Now THAT is sensible!

About he only sensible utterance you have had on the thread. If you had done the same of raising your hand in the air that you were wrong when you said Andy Murray was not successful at all, you would not have been humiliated.

MRbrownJAY: take BRAZIL, as an appetizer.

Since when did Brazil become part of the West?

Where did you see that? Explain to me. Show me.

Maybe I will learn something new from you. I am always open to learning.

My understanding of Geo-political and Geo-cultural zones are:

- The Western Bloc (which includes Australia and New Zealand)
- The Eastern Bloc (which includes most of the Balkans, China and former Russian countries)
- Latin America (which includes Brazil, Mexico and all the land countries leading to it)
- Sub-Indian continent (which includes India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka etc)
- Asia Pacific (which includes Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam etc)
- The Carribeans
- The Middle East (which includes North African countries)
- Sub-Saharan Africa

MRbrownJAY: again, anyone can get out of any contract whatsoever (unless death), so if an individual decides to opt out, then they have all the rights to do so....the court system should only come into play when there are DISAGREEMENTS between the two. so as much as someone CAN take these vows, they also CAN "untake" them. so long as everyone is happy with that, this is why you also sign a (divorce) contract when parting company.

Then the terms are irrelevant if they can be ignored!

This people are adults who willingly and voluntarily signed to the terms, if it was a contract THEY WOULD HAVE to abide by THE TERMS, which include this is forever and you can only get out when you die!