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Kobojunkie: We desire that the stupi_dity ends. I got sucked into it myself thinking it was going somewhere only to realize after so many pages that it was just people posting random brain-fart(I thought that only happened in politics section) just because they can. I desire we work to get the thread back to the topic.

If you had any brain cells you would understand dialetic strategies.

As I told dumb arses like you before, I do not apply one-cap-fits-all with everyone on NL, I apply bespoke approach.

When I am debating with someone that I know if they make an error they will rather claim red is black instead of admitting their error, I apply my arguments strategically so I don't waste my godly time.

coogar: yes, it is!



illogical....
learn the difference between fantasy and desire. you cannot desire to kiss your wife in public in saudi arabia - you only "wish" it could happen..and in this context, that "wish" is fantasy!



that is because that particular age group is more daring. the male gender of that particular age group even pays more than their female counterparts. nothing to do with desire and behaviour----



the laws change desires and the when there's no desire there can be no behaviour!



change that to "there are muthafuckers you fantasise to smack across the face..."



think deep and you would see its the same!

Let me let you into a secret: You are the specific reason why I demanded this because I did not want to waste my time:

https://www.nairaland.com/992476/nairalands-literary-debating-day-cordially/6#11489650

I know you very well. No matter how blatantly your argument is murdered you will hold on to it like a market woman fighting Mike Tyson. "I no go gree, you must kill me today" attitude.

You actually went to blindly look for a word (wish) to try and dispute that it is not a desire to want to kiss my wife is Saudi, instead of accepting the point magnanimously.

You seriously have to learn to accept when your point has been murdered and stop striving to bring it alive with lame points. Only Jesus raise things from the dead.

So to you behaviour is the same thing as desire, but wish is completely different from desire?

You actually sat down and conjured that up to defend a buried point instead of accepting the point is dead and start a quiet mourning moment?

Okay here are the dictionary definitions.

Wish:
1. to want; desire; long for (usually followed by an infinitive or a clause): I wish to travel. I wish that it were morning.
2. to desire (a person or thing) to be (as specified): to wish the problem settled.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wish?s=t


Behavior:
1. manner of behaving or acting.
2. Psychology, Animal Behavior .
a. observable activity in a human or animal.
b. the aggregate of responses to internal and external stimuli.
c. a stereotyped, species-specific activity, as a courtship dance or startle reflex.
3. Often, behaviors. a behavior pattern.
4. the action or reaction of any material under given circumstances: the behavior of tin under heat.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/behavior?s=t


Here is the the thesaurus for "wish", see what they used alternative definition for the word:

http://thesaurus.com/browse/wish

And you will say you are not scraping the bottom of the barrel when arguing?

Okay, feel free to show me which dictionary you used to conclude that desire is the same thing as behavior and wish is different from desire.

The floor is yours.

amaba: Thank God is SA. If it was in NIGERIA, all hell would have been let loose... Na wah for Africa

If it was Nigeria, the person leaders will just say:

"Everyone should calm down in the name of God. Lets live in peace and harmony. We are all ONE NAIGIRIYA"

No one will be charged to court. The perpetrators will get away with murder and we will have another murderfest a few years down the line. And then repeat the cycle of fucktardism!

If I can find a way of separating the world so that these fucktards can live in the same area as the people they feel sorry for and we the clerisy can live in another area, it would just be beautiful and perfect for everyone.

Let them kill you and caught your throat while you respect them.

osram: i pity 4 ur parents..they must b regrettin by nw y they gave birth to u....dumb!!!

You are a person product of a failed education system.

Your parents should be crying.

ocelot2006: Oh please spare us the sentimental BS!! What the hell should we call a bunch of spare and matchet wielding hooligans with the blood of a cop on their hands? Peace-loving tree huggers? In my opinion "barbaric Zap.tards" is a reasonable label.

Don't mind the fcking moooron and in her mind she would feel funky she is speaking sense.

And she has a right to vote!

Then you get Retardeen Jonathan as President.

Why? Because his name is Goodluck and he has had a lot of Goodluck to get to that level, so he will bring Goodluck to Nigeria.

FUUUUUUUUUCKTARDS!

I WILL SAY IT!

coogar: you have the uncanny ability to use words you don't even understand - the contradictions in the comment above amuses me to the hilt! so you agree the laws control the behaviour but it does not control my desire? is my desire not my behaviour or what the heck are you talking about?

as i get older the desire would diminish? how? so if a particular behaviour is not outlawed, your age singlehandedly would diminish that desire? this line of argument is obtuse! the law controls your behaviour/desire! the law has controlled the desire of the people in Singapore not to chew gums in public -

You are chatting shyt!

Desire is not behaviour.

If I go to Saudi Arabia and in the spur of the moment I want to kiss my wife in public but know I will get 400 lashes and I do not do it.

I have the desire but a law has changed my opinion.

Simple LOGIC!

Insurance companies in ALL PARTS OF THE WORLD are not all mad when they charge higher premium to a particular age group.

Simple LOGIC!

Laws don't change your desires, they control your behaviours!

There are muthafuckers I desire to smack across the face but I live in a country where the law will be enforced, so I control my behaviour. That does not mean I still do not itch deep down to smack them.

DESIRE is not the same thing as BEHAVIOUR!

vivacious vivi: People are dead and you call them "barbaric animals" What kind of person are you? Obviously, no compassion flows in your blood.

As for the topic, its clear that with all their advancements in Africa, South Africa may be slowly digressing back to the era of apartheid. Its appalling to note how countries just never seem to learn from their histories or past especially those be-clouded by injustice, senseless killings and social oppression. I am sure that over 90% of those miners black. Such a pity!

You are a mooron!

So because they are dead, they are not barbaric animals?

You go and have compassion for arsewipes, I don't.

You are the kind of Nigerian person Okija Juju was referring to.

"Many Nigerians cant seem to see the guys with spears and machetes.. All they see is the police kill count!"

"I have learnt to realize that Nigerians can never be objective in anything! Especially where it involves religion or loss of life."

[quote author=Okija_juju]DUDE

You seriously need to chill the fhuck out!

Nigerians lack the ability to think straight without sentiments especially when loss of life is involved..

I immediately spotted something wrong from just mere photographs of the protesters and knew that whatever happened, they definitely started it.

Many Nigerians cant seem to see the guys with spears and machetes.. All they see is the police kill count!

If you keep cursing at them, they will keep spewing shiit!

I have learnt to realize that Nigerians can never be objective in anything! Especially where it involves religion or loss of life.

Thats how some ignorant Nigga said the Lady who was involved in the traffic offnce in which the LASTMA guy died was responsible for his death because if she hadnt driven against traffic, the Nigga would not have died!! #CLASSIC! [/quote]That is why they are fucktards!

That is why I keepon calling them fucktards!

Complete fucktards!

ocelot2006: Sagamite, pls calm down. We know that you're right and on point, unlike some dummies here who expected the SA police to have laid down their arms and sing "kumbaya" while a bunch of armed criminals hack them to death.

Bruv, it is really annoying to know I have to share this world with people so stupid. That is why the world is in such a mess.

It is really annoying to knwo these people have a right to vote. The vote counts and it carries equal weighting as mine. That just makes me retch!

It would be so much fun if I had the power to put them and their families at the mercy of these marauding savages and lets see what they say then.

[quote author=owo2000%]Sagamite is an example of a typical confused young man.[/quote]And you are an example of a product of a failed education system.

emmatok: They didn't attack the Police but they attacked others Humans.CAN YOU DENY THAT?
Did you notice the distance and barricades between the UK Policemen and the rioters.

You are a person!

They have already killed a policeman!

READ! FOOOOL!

And so what if it is not a policeman they killed and it was other humans?

emmatok: If those UK rioters confront these SA Police, we will witness more killings.

If? How did you arrive at this conclusion?

Conjecture?

emmatok: Did I hear somebody saying the UK protesters post no treat to life . Those UK Policemen were highly couscous.

Did you notice the number of SA Policemen compared to the Number of Protesters.All the SA Police needs to do is to mobilize more men armed with rubber bullets and canisters.

Take this as a lesson and jot it in your notebook:

Read about issues before commenting on them.

Go and find out the number of protesters. Don't ever MORONICALLY base your opinion solely on an incomprehensive, limited, grainy video clip again.

coogar: i don't have the desire to drive as i want again---i used to but that feeling has been beaten out of me cos i now understand why i shouldn't drive how i want!



the law is the reason they are being given chemicals to suppress their desires to use in the first place. tobacco smoking: don't smoke indoors, don't smoke in the public, don't smoke in the car - how soon before you even lose the desire to smoke at all! it's almost criminalised to smoke

and it's those threats of consequences that would soon eat up the desires!!!

You still have the desire, you said it yourself. Stop changing your story just to make a weak argument relevant.

The thing stopping you are laws. It is controlling your behaviour, not change your desire.

As you get older, that desire will diminish. That FACT is reflected in your insurance policy payments.

It is chemical changes that changes your desire to put chemicals in your body, not laws. Stop arguing against logic!

andrewza: You hit the nail on the head. Those protesters where not a threat to life only property. Even in south africa cops can not shoot unless it is a body crime (rap, murder, assault extra) these where not your typical rioters.

justwise: You can't compare both, a huge number of people in London riot were just after goods as they break into shops to steal, its nothing to compare to what happened in SA.

I am struuuuuugling to understand his basis of comparison.

But I will wait patiently for him. Maybe he would teach me something new today.

Kenyaphilia: Keep trolling blockhead...am not sure you have analyzed anything in the story. You simply watched a video and took a side. Stvpid.

You are a person! That is why I was right and you were wrong?

Foool! Product of a failed education system.

berem: everyone is a person to u! Then u are the father of all Fucktards!!

person! We should push you to the humans you value so they can hack you to death with your stupidity!

coogar: i disagree....
when the laws suppress the behaviour for a while, the desires disappear. the desire i am talking about is not as strong as what it used to be. it has gone from "very strong" to "very weak" and over time it would completely disappear......drug addicts in a rehab still get minute desires to use but after a while, those desires disappear and they stay clean!

Rubbish!

You still have the desire to drive as you want. The law has not changed that, it has only controlled you from doing it.

Rubbish!

Drug addicts change, not based on laws. They change based on chemicals given to them to assist/suppress/change/reduce their desires.

That was a useless analogy.

It is the threat of consequences (fines, addiction, smacking) that controls behaviours. Desires are natural things controlled by natural changes (the most dominant), chemical inducement (where possible) or social education (this one normally takes decades through strong memes).

emmatok: And why didn't the Police in UK kill those silly rioters and arsonists.
Are you saying that those SA protesters are more dangerous the UK rioters.

Are you saying, are you TELLING ME, that the SA protesters are not more dangerous then the UK rioters?

Kenyaphilia: Simpleton, can you see me making a clarification there after watching the whole video. Fo0l!!

You are a person!

Next time get all your facts, or at least the crucial ones, before you take a position. Don't just into it like an illiterate.

They did not teach you that in school? Or did you go to Beer Parlour University?

[quote author=Busy_body]^^^


Hello darling, missed you too boo, especially the fact that as soon as you got your first paycheck of £750,000, you lovingly split it into 3 and bought me my first ferrari


Infact you have given me the inspiration to contribute meaningfully to this thread - ahem ladies, come one, come all, even if you don't get £95,000 per annum paying jobs, there are millions of loaded guys with loaded pocket like Debosky, Coogar, Jaybee, Buzugee, Denzel2009, Ola one, etc, who will just rent a small penthouse for you in Docklands and be giving you pocketmoney to go shopping in Harrod food hall, with weekly trips via chartered jet to Milan, Monaco and Dubai [/quote]I miss you more than he misses you.

coogar: it does.....
i still get the urges to overspeed because sadly, old habits die hard but on the long run, those desires would die. you just don't drop a habit all of a sudden, it reduces until there's no urge to start doing it any longer.

You STILL have the desire to overspeed, so how has the law changed your desire?

IT HAS ONLY CHANGED YOUR BEHAVIOUR! THE DESIRE IS STILL THERE!

WTF! This is simple as ABC!

On the long run, it is age and reduced testosterone that changes your desire.

justwise: Sad to see these dead bodies, its really shocking but....there is nothing police would have done, if you approach the police with weapons and they tried to stop you by the use of water cannon and tear gas and you keep approaching...well the inevitable will happen.

In the UK or US police will shot anybody armed person who oppose danger to them and the public.

Such simple common sense can not be available to moorons, products of a failed education system.

osram: u are a waste of semens..bastard

You are a what?

You are a person!

Kenyaphilia: Obviously, they are firing from a distance and the miners do not pose any threat to their lives. lmbeciles!! This what happens if you put an undisciplined illiterates to take care of law and order.

Please ignore the above comment...I watched the full video and i think the police had little choice here Like someone said, these fucktards might just direct their attention to the immigrants.

You are a person!

They were not a threat? You are a cretin!

Kenyaphilia: Guys, the death toll is more than 30

That is disappointingly low!

If they can throw you in the mix to increase that number, I will dance the best and wildest Alanta anyone has ever seen.

sharp man: From the video, the police men simply acted to defend themselves.

Did you guys not see how they were charged at by the workers........with weapons?

Don't mind the fucktards!

I can't believe they have a right to vote.

No wonder we have Retardeen as President!

[quote author=Okija_juju][size=14pt][color=#000000]Why do I agree with you?!!

I actually think the police followed the rules of engagement to the fullest.

The only thing wrong here is the 'Perharps they were a bit overzealous..'

But all the same, the miners conducted themselves like animals, so they got merked like animals..

Everyone knows you dont bare arms and confront the Popo![/color][/size][/quote]They were [b]under[/b]zealous!

If they could kill 1000+ of them, I would be elated.

When you see the people you are protesting with are animals, if you have any brain worth keeping on this planet, you disperse and go home.

If you stay, you are part of the problem. The arsewipes would not have had the confidence to kill innocent people if they were not in a huge crowd.

Kill all of them! Useless waste of human skin. Bloody animals!

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Once you carry weapons while protesting, you are breaking the law.

Once you carry weapons while protesting and become threatening, you are risking your life.

Once you carry weapons while protesting, become threatening and some of your fellow animals kill innocent people, if you DO NOT disperse IMMEDIATELY, you should be wasted like the savage animal you are.

The world will be a far better place without animals like these.

osram: u r so pathetic...i pity ur soul

You are a person!

I pity your life. God brought you to this World and forgot the process of implanting a brain.

sambos994: Anyone notice something? White person commanding black people? Tsk tsk tsk

CAMNEWTON4PRES: racism at the highest level

tubolancer: If they are white,they wouldnt have shot at them like that,it so barbaric and painful.

Fucktards!

Cretins!

Mooorons!

It is racism they will see.

gbadexy: I don't understand why people are so sentimental on NL, I just hope its forming and not so in real life.
As regrettable as their deaths was, the police had little choice. Even in developed countries, if you throw incendiary device at police and is armed and approaches police line, the police would have no choice but to fire in self defence. Abi you people didn't read the part where they said some groups approached police line and earlier that they were armed with machete and were also throwing petrol bombs?
There was a time people were blaming the society and government for the action of some armed robbers caught with dangerous weapons at oshodi and also the soldiers for threatening a woman transporting weapons inside sacks of foodstuff. I guess if those armed robbers they called youths failed by government and society had robbed them and raped their wife, they would still excuse them and blame the society.
We really need to be objective and sincere when making comments and not just wanting to sound nice or different.

Don't mind the fucktards!

It is a shame they have a right to vote. Fck Democracy! Give us geniocracy.

These foooools should not have a right to an opinion.

Princek12: Police should protect and serve the people, not murder them, except in self defense. And in using self defense, the amount of force exerted has to be proportional to the threat received.

After watching the video, it is clear that the SA police responded with excessive force.

Let over 1000 murderous, uneducated savages that have killed some people be charging at you with cutlasses, machetes, spears, stones and clubs (the type they have used to kill people like you) after you tried to disperse them with tear gas and water cannons, then come and tell me whether you will use excessive force or not.

If you do not, when they are hacking you to death, come and tell me whether you will be able to spell "excessive" and if you would actually be able to speak the English you are speaking now or if you will switch to your village Yoruba!

Danka7777: I am not surprised by your comment; clearly typical of you "Sagamite". It reflects your low intelligence quotient and invariably exemplifies who you are. You are a disgrace to Nigerians and would had been better off if your parents aborted you as zygote.

You are a person!

A product of a failed education system like the savage animals that were shot by the SA Police.

We need to scatter your brain with a nice bullet.

andrewza: Though loss of life is sad they brought it on them. Let's look at the big picture.


The entire protest and strike is illegal. Though they do have the right to strike and march peacefully there are certain protocols and laws to be followed. Non of witch where.


There are armed. And have used there weapons. 7(+ 3 by police) people died by there hands including 2 cops and more where wounded including 1 cop. They all so stole 1 pistol and a R5 assault rifle from the dead cops. So it is fact they had fire arms.

there demands are insane. They want to earn more money than many people who had to get training. Eg a mechanic in the south african navy who has a college level degree or a student constable in the police who gets shot at.

They refused to disband peacefully when given the option.

They first braved the water canons and tear gas. This show intent. They want to get at the police.

They charged at the police lines. Who defend themselves. Once the charge was stopped they stopped shooting. They did not shoot at people fleeing from them.

In short the miners got what the deserved maybe next time they will think first before believing that some witch doctors blessing and potions can stop a 5.56mm piece of metal traveling faster than the speed of sound.

Thank you.

Someone that is actually enlightened about the issues instead of ignorant fucktards that think they are entitled to an opinion.

ariyebaba: I just watched d senseless killing of peaceful demostrators on ALJAZEERA.

I just read the conclusion of a cretin!