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ronkebp: Ouch!!!!! this is not good ooo, why now?

I think you will have to travel far and wide to get a woman that shares your view on "not marrying", you will not find that type of woman in Nigeria ooooo.

He can always replace them every 2 to 5 years.

ronkebp: So Sagamilo.. you see marraige as a 'curse'?...this not good!!!! this mentality is not good ooooo... And you were thinking of knocking on my father's door....if i hear, i will just ask all those agbero boys in Ibadan- Ologun-eru to bundle you and throw you over the fence .....

I see marriage by the end of this year as a curse.

I must utilise my window of generousity to spread the immense love I have very well before I report for life imprisonment if I get the world's smallest hand-cuffs placed on my finger. The prenup would be my "Get out of Jail" card.

But if the girl is hot and a nice person, the jail for my life imprisonment sentence might just be like a UK jail (a 5 star hotel) and I would gladly take the penthouse and have my meals made till I die. I am not interested in Kirikiri kind of jails most girls offer.

librangyps: Jisos! I love u...I Ơ̴̴͡.̮Ơ̴̴͡ u got 15 likes already ...

sarutobi: Good thing not all guyz are like u.

Sweetlemon: Aww!

OILOFGLADNESS: my dear God blees you for your wonderful and right reasoning

Ladies and Gentlemen, these are perfect examples of the pat on the back for good behaviour that I famously said women give real man and real men cherish.

Bawss1: Classic Sagamite.

Bruv, he was trying to give me the "Real Man" doctrine he has been fed ni.

The "I should be grateful for having a woman", indirectly indoctrinating me that she is more valuable than me and he wanted to scare me to drop my interests and "win" her like if she is what I want. Simliar to the scare tactics women love to use to push men to do what they (the women) want. Real men are well trained on such nonsense.

It is like when you go and window-shop for a product (like a house, car, sofa etc) and the Salesman tells you the prize and wants to scare you that if you don't make up your mind and buy now the specific flashy item that is catching your eye, it would be sold and snapped up by someone else before you comeback. Some mugus fall for it and hyperventilate to quickly pay before some imaginary next buyer comes for it. That shyt does not work on me, I tell the sales person that I am sure he does not love me that much to want to sell it to only me, he is solely interested in selling it to make his money and anyone that comes to pay he would give it to. That attempt to create panic buy does not work in Sagamu, if dem sell their stuff, I would go to another store and buy one that fits the bargain I am looking for.

I am not a Real Man, I am the Ultimate All Man, so I let TV01 know I am the prize. She should be grateful for having me. If she does not end up having me, she lost. I didn't.

ronkebp: @ TV01 abeg bone this arguement, you will be surprised when Sagamite gets married before the end of the year....all this his arguement is because he has not found Mrs. Right.

AHH, Epe (curse)!

I reject that in the name of Jesus!

[quote author=T.Moni]Common your question is not rocket science.

They can break the law and be completely lawless here and get away with it.
Its easy to make money illegally here.
Its easy to be corrupt and you get away with it
They all wanna share of the national loot
It easy to use a liitle money to get a lot of follower dat will shout "rankadede" after you.
Its easy to evade and avoid tax without the law catching up with you.

How ever, there are some dat came to help and develop the country but offen time they get jazzed, maimed, robbed, killed in plane crashes etc.

I rest my case![/quote]Bruv, you still dey?

Long time.

chaircover: Ha Ha!!!! Kilode gan

You people can argue ooooooo! Infact you should all not get married sef cos I pity any woman that has to put up with this ejo day and night. Men are supposed to be quiet deep beings

Ok back to topic, Actually after thinking a little more deeply into this; maybe it is a good thing that some people refuse to get married. Not all men (or women) will make good husbands or wives and some are better just being single.

marriage involves a lot of sacrifice, patience and tolerance and being blind and deaf to a lot of things. Not everyone can deal with this.

In a nutshell, we are all different and we all know our strengths and weaknesses.

Actually, I never saw this post.

It must have slipped while I typed a response to Harakiri and the thread number changed.

Is the part in red another daily "Real Men" propaganda?

Should I make a public announcement so "real men" can come and read this for their daily dose?

lagerwhenindoubt: I think for women - Marriage+Kids is the end of their life's ambitions and when they hit that spot. they tend to relax and get fat and lazy. but that is just a false generalization now is that not? The common mistake people make in life is to think that LOVE is everlasting and it will continue to grow with the passage of time. welcome to the real world. people tire of each other when they are together 24/7/365. remember the adage - absence makes the heart grow fonder? It is all about understanding that there is no magic to marriage and you (both) have to work together to spark new life when the fire is dying

Well-fcking said.

The sad reality is that if you made this logical statement to a potential spouse, they would get upset saying you are not romantic.

Most women love to live in luluworld.

kambili190: true some do but some others are left alone with the kids and and the entire house and on top of them have to earn money as well. they take care of the kids, have sleepless nights, are there when their children are sick, again have sleepless nights but wake up eary in the morning to be there for their kids. clean, cook, work. have little support from their husbands but are expected to look like a star who has a cleaning lady, a nanny and a personal trainer.

there is a weak man behind each unhappy woman ...

Real Men, I hope you are listening.

Come and take your daily dose of indoctrination.

harakiri: You are not a good role example to all the air headed guys who intend getting married in a few weeks. How can you be so vain? Hehehehehahahahaha!!!

Nice one

Na dem wahala be that.

harakiri: Quit being so modest. Can you mention one benefit of marriage to society?

- Raising kids. Although it is not the only appropriate avenue.

- Keeping a woman happy and being jointly happy (for those that it works for).

- Population control.

- More peaceful world as men will become violent if there is no stamp of ownership to say "keep off".

- Jollof rice yanfunyanfun and opportunities to snatch dreamy spinsters at wedding parties.

harakiri: I don't agree with this but i do agree that a male and female parent create a balance for the well being of the child. Marriage is not a must. They is something called "live-in-relationships".

Sorry, mate. I forgot to add "not", I have modified it.

- You do not need marriage to raise balanced children.

Another thing I forgot to add is that:

- Marriage is more beneficial to women, so if I was to marry for a woman, it would be on my own terms. From my world experience, women know how to take a piss if you do not put your foot down. That is not to say men don't benefit from marriage. The functional word is "more".

Historically, marriage is a failed institution and, based on the existing & emerging factors/influences, would remain a failed institution. It is highly irresponsible for anyone to say go for it blindly and ignore the failures without any solid plan of how to make it successful or protect oneself from the risk (especially as a man living in the West).

That is not to say marriage is not to an extent beneficial to society. It is beneficial but it is a failure when judged by the lulu, fairytale expectations and ideals associated with, and expected from, it.

- 50% fail ending up in divorce.
- Imagine the ones that have failed and died without partners bothering to go through the divorce process or still there to put up a public front. Maybe about 30%.
- Then from the remaining 20% add the ones where couples still love each other but one of them has committed adultery, the other forgave and carried on ........OR just did not know.

By the time you add all the percentages together. Marriage gets an F grade and it is ridiculous anyone can sit there and champion it by attacking those that are not interested in it.

That is not to say those that want to marry shouldn't but my advise to guys: Get a prenup.

TV01: I don't shovel BS. Traditional married families are more robust than any other "family" arrangement. Ergo they are better for raising children.

- That can prpbably be argued if the everything is the same including the duration of the relationship.
- But bearing in mind a number of things, our cultural background, your getting married, your getting married to a betta girl,ponder this; Where will
you find this girl that will agree to co-habit with you till "death-do-part"? Why are you proclaiming a facsimile of marriage, whilst railing
against marriage itself? Fear cash you abi?


- What is sufficient? What do you have to know that you can't find out in 3 months?
- People of "character" don't pretend. Pretenders will expose themselves one way or another. Character flaws will always manifest.
- Pressure is a good point. And indeed, reactions can vary based on type and intensity of pressure. But that cuts both ways, so seek "character"
- Like the type and intensity of pressure,you cannot legislate for the nature and depth of change. Again, seek character and maturity.
- Character and maturity will bring committment,compassion,humility, loving care, support and if required sacrifice. Don't confuse it with personality.



- How long does it take to get to know someone?
- How long does it take to communicate to someone what you are about, what you are after and explore to see if there is common ground.
- Real sharp,mature guys,can spot and recognise value very quickly. They can weigh up and act accordingly.
- Omo, let me be frank with you; God forbid you get hit by a bus tomorrow; I am pretty sure there is not a single girl who will declare no Saga, no
marriage.
- The type of woman you picture yourself with will not change. But you will. If you dwawdle, one day you'll realise that you've changed to a degree
that means that type will not give you face. Please don't let that happen. You can't be at your peak forever.


I'll have a read, just for a laugh. But I think you miss the point; you should be mature and savvy enough to see pretenders far off. They shouldn't even get the time of day. I was that and prayerful to God for guidance, protection and discernment.

A man should be able to spend a working days length of time with a woman and by the end of it have a good idea of 1. The type of person she is and 2. if she is marriage material.

3 months?? 3 whole months I should be considered hesitant and overcautious sef. Let me share this, most of the numerous girls I considered, didn't get past a few weeks before they got moved on. Loads where ditched after a phone call (pre-date chat, ultimatelymeant no date), many after a single date. All that built into a finely honed sense of what to look for and how to go about it and continously updated the profile of what I was after in a wife. I still had faith.



It was so not a gamble. And you shoot yourself in the foot, seeking to mitigate the financial fallout of possible failure instead of building a foundation for success. The commitment of marriage is not by contract - at any point.

In fact, does a pre-nup actually speak to risk? No. Life is a risk. You can't guarantee anything about tomorrow.

Yes, she was north of 28, but the one she usuroed - obviously she didn't know it - was 27. Girls may in some ways "mature" faster than boys, but they don't necessarily develop character any faster.



Don't I know it,but it was not by luck or mere chance.
You may call it faith if you choose, but it wasn't blind. Faith drives my beliefs, worldview, thinking, actions etc. It doesn't mean I rush into situations blindly or without due consideration. On the contrary. I absolutely conducted what I understood to be the requisite level of due dilligence.



That's me to a "t". I married, my life is the richer and my future brighter.



Hve you not figured this from all I've written?



Saga, take it from me, it's so easy and so sweet when you get it right.

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Mate, you are wasting my time. I am seeing you are playing "I know go carry last" and have decided to dig in with your "facts from thin air" since you have no evidence to back it up.

Let me summarise what I have shown you and is obvious:
- Marriage is not a duty, it is a choice.
- It is ridiculous to say someone is irresponsible or immature for not wanting to marry or not marrying.
- Marriage is not sign of responsibility, at best, you can call it adorable.
- You do not need marriage to raise balanced children.
- Marriage is man-made, God had nada to do with it.
- Your marriage process is like Russian roulette when you did not perform due diligence and hardly knew your partner to go into something with over 50% failure rate.
- You took a risk and let a woman have your balls in her hands by having a shotgun wedding, you have no clue what she can do in the future and should have had a prenup IF you care about you assets.
- You are in marriage based on blind faith and you are not in control of anything, hence more irresponsible than someone that is not married.
- It is not because she was mature that she married you after a short courtship, she most likely resigned to faith and would not have done the same if she was younger.



I will give you one good news though. This is coming from the brain of Saga Saga, the one and only:
- I think you might be lucky that your marriage may potentially be happy IF you selected a good woman and combine it with your enthusiasm for marriage.
- Since she was over 28, she could possibly be very determined to make you as happy as possible to convince herself that other guys missed out by not picking her early. Secondly, she will do all she can to make sure the marriage is successful because she does not ever want to face the possibility of facing the pit of loneliness again (and you OBVIOUSLY will do likewise).
- This is accidental, not because of your due diligence.
- That is just the potential benefits of marrying a women that was not lucky to have married early: they might work harder at it.


I don't gamble, I like to have more control on my life and not leave it to faith in the face of arrangements that has far over 50% fail rate.

Nigerian commentators should be shot.

These murrafckers can put someone to sleep.

And some people were asking before why no one watches the NPL? Are you having a laff, honerico?

- Culture and sociability
- Career acceleration
- Money or improved disposable income
- Familiarity
- Family and friends
- Social class climbing (power) and chics that come with it
- Less rules and more flexibility
- No gays on the streets

TV01: The inference is not necessarily direct. But I'm sure it's a small thing for you to grasp that the greater robustness of proper marriage vs. co-hab, means it's altogether better for raising kids. QED.

So your link had no evidence? So you have no evidence for the statement you made then?

I guessed as much that is why I asked for evidence. [size=4pt][s]I am dbanj or skibanj like my jamaicans friends call me[/s][/size] I am Sagamite or Sagalulu like my Sister-in-laws call me, I don't let anyone BS me.

Kids will do okay as long as they live with both biological parents that care about them and each other, married or not. Please next time infer or Ifa that, don't try and BS me with "facts" made from thin air.

TV01: Please don't confuse a proper courtship with "hanging out". Happy to hear your thoughts on what constitutes a reasonable amount of time to get to know someone prior to marriage. Studies to show a direct correlation between this time and the success of the union would also help.

Focus on being and finding a mature person of well developed character. Then you'll have a good idea of what they are capable of. This your idea to know someone perfectly and for an extremely long time sounds suspiciously like self-obstruction. Wetin you dey fear? WHile you are still looking, sharp dudes will sneak in! Nothing wrong with quick-sharp when you know what's up.

The longer you know someone the better. DEFINITELY 3 months is by no way sufficient. You are less likely to tell the dos and don'ts of the other person especially if they decide to pretend. You need sufficient time to see them react under difference circumstances (especially pressure) and how they cope and adapt to change.

The less time you get to know them, the higher the risk you don't know them and the higher the risk of your marriage. Let sharp guys have them, I am the ultimate prize, the girls lose.

TV01: My approach, sincerity and the value proposition I put to my WTB, was simply compelling. Most women know when it's time to discard or at least leash that irrationalty nonsense. When they see and appreciate better thing they normally shape up. But seriously, like I said earlier, "focus on being and finding..."

No doubt. Something we agree on.

But you should also know women know how to pretend to be something else to get what THEY want, their is a risk they might revert when they get what they want. Most definitely behave different when they are the ones with power, they frequently abuse it without any contrition. Evident in the divorce robberies we have seen. Feel free to read women's response here and how ALL are non-chalant or excuse their bad behaviour:

https://www.nairaland.com/962850/ladies-which-these-dating-evils

That is why I think your likes are playing Russian roulette when you have shot-gun wedding and have no bazooka pre-nup while living in the West. You didn't answer my question: She was North of 28 when you met her?

TV01: Couch it how you please, I essentially did just that and it's working great. We have been married for over a year, with a son. No regrets or doubts. My wifes character is exactly how I found it. I continue to find out new and delightful things about my wife, even as she continues to grow and develop. As do we both, and mostly together. Especially from our interaction as a couple. That's part of the journey. When a woman meets a mature man, she either steps up or the man steps away. She can go back to being someones GF.

Good for you, bruv. That is great.

Though I note you are just getting to know her. You did jump on it on faith, not due diligence. Lets say you are a lucky man with your Russian Roulette.

I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't take drugs and I don't gamble (definitely not with my life and future).

TV01: The issue tends to be people "seeing" marriage as opposed to "understanding" it combined with looking to satisfy their needs through marriage instead of developing their characters for it. Nail that part you are ready. Just find someone of like maturity and vision. For deeper discussion ,please open the thread. I'm sure there are many here that can lend credence, be it with hind or foresight.

Being married,if anything increases your chances of developing right. Someone to focus, explore and journey with. The very fact that you have someone for whom you are responsible and to encourage & if required chastise you, must be better than the isolation of singleness, which lends itself more to developing odd behaviours (eccentricity/set in your ways?).

This is all verbose.

Please tell us the due diligence you said you did.

TV01: - You conflate and confuse. The premise is that all things being equal, kids fare better in a traditional marriage setting. I can't speak for every unique case in every setting. A super rich single mom of 1 may well do better than an impoverished couple trying to raise 11 kids in a ghetto. Does that mean we now champion single motherhood? And to the point, are you championing co-habitation as a better alternative than marriage? Why exactly are you pursuing this? I thought you were going with Tappimony.

- Again, look at it uniquely. The universal figure of 50% is not typical of properly built unions.
- And even if it was, it's still better than any alternatives you can offer up.
- Clooney is not irresponsible for not marrying, or not having kids (does he?) it's his tappimony, the effects and the messages it sends


Start practising your dance moves. If you see the way I threw down eh! Lai kuli !!!!

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More verbose.

Kids are affected when one parent is missing. Don't bring lame comparisons. Don't BS me.

Please give your evidence that kids fair better in traditional marriage than in committed co-habiting.

Please give your evidence that kids fair better when their parents can make Akara over kids of another set of parents that can not.

Please tell me how shot-gun marriages and not getting to know yourselves rigorously are properly built unions.

Please enlighten me on the tapwater Clooney dey send around the world that is irresponsible.

[quote author=emöfine2]Is this commandment exclusive to marriage? What about buisness partners etc...[/quote]Well said, well asked!

If she believes in her medieval fairytales of ignorance, she would go and live like the Amish so she does not yoke with unbelievers.

Shollypopz: Nope, my religion forbids me to.
But if he's very intelligent though, i'll pray that the Holy spirit touches his heart and invite him to all the church services i can think of.

If he is very intelligent, he is highly unlikely to take up the invite.

Sweetlemon: You don't get it do you? I ask again, how can you marry someone who does not recognize someone you call your father? Your answer is as good as mine. It all depends how much you love or value your the person you call your father. Shikena!

[Shakes Head]

foyeks2001: my bible tells me that '' do not be equally yoked with unbelievers'' meaning d suppose partner can as well influences ur faith in God be it positively or negatively....but always good to be on a safer side....so it is a capital NO for me

Fantastic!

My sense tells me that '' do not be equally egged with people with the ratiocination capability of only following the rules of some senseless medieval fairytales'' which means my partner should not be a egg-head, even though they can not influence me considering my intellect, their reasoning can piss me the fck off.

TV01: Did you read the studies I posted?
- I'm not saying co-hab damages per-se, just that it's not as beneficial as marriage
- I met and did dilligence in 3 months. We married 8 months later
- We did not have just the one date, but I knew she was a strong candidate after the 1st one.
- Truth be told, there was groundwork before I actually pursued that first date. And it was ongoing afterwards, till I had peace.
- It's a mix of knowing the person and understanding what they want. Both will continue to develop. The key is to grow together and remain comitted.
- You can know someone for ever and never really know them and people continue to develop. If you want to know them perfectly prior, just forget it. People here will echo that.
- That criteria is a red herring and reeks of fear/insecurity.
- Please leave of on the 50% anology. Its another straw man.

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- I read it, I did not see any part where it said kids raised by co-habiting couples are less balanced than kids raised by married couples. If you see any part that does from your link, please post it as a quote here.

- A 3 month due diligence on a woman is irresponsible. Even my male friends that I have known for over 10 years, that I understand, hang out with and blab to cannot know me enough to know all I am capable off. Neither do I know all they are capable of to put my life in their hands. Talkless of someone of the opposite sex that is known for irrationality, not knowing what they want and who is of a sex that generally dislike and distrust each other (for valid reasons). I will not know much about them in 3 months, especially if they are at an age of being eager to marry, which I can reasonably guess was the case here. I take it she was over 28 when you met her? Because ages north of that number are when women are usually keen to marry under short notice?

- Even if you had one date everyday for 3 months, you will not know enough about her to show it is responsible to place the risk of damaging you all in her hands. And I am sure in 3 months, you could not have met her for more than 30 days. in total I don't think it is responsible to say you would put that much faith in someone you have only known for 30 days and procreate with them when kids suffer if they are from a broken home.

- You need to specify what groundwork you did that we are not aware of to understand how due diligence can be conducted.

- Not every one develops or develop in the right areas. Some deteriorate. To put your faith in someone "developing", and not considering "deteriorating", that is hope.

- No it is not a strawman, you gave me reports that state kids are damaged if raised in broken relationship. You are the same man that labelled a man irresponsible for wanting to be single at 50, hence we are discussing responsibility here. So is it not irresponsible if you put your child or bring a child into something with a 50% fail ratio where failure would be bad for them? You brought them into it on the basis of hope. Who is more irresponsible, Clooney or you?

TV01: Co-habition is more fragile and does not manifest all the attendant benefits of marriage. Also
- They are more likely to break up - and earlier
- Recieve less support from the co-habitees families

So to your posers
- per above, more co-habs fail than marriages, ergo children are more likely to suffer from breakups in this arrangement
- nope, single and co-hab fams fare worse. Marriage - in lieu of a copncise rebuttal - is still the best arrangement.
- when you understand what needs to be done, due dilligence, whilst not a formality, need not be a long thing. And I still had great faith.
- We have thrashed this point ad-nauseum. Marriage is not a 50:50 proposition if entered into properly

Sagamite, stop fighting the inevitable.

Ondo girl huh? No gainsaying, they make great wives. And via e-introduction. That may well be a first. So long as we get the job done sha!

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What attendant benefits of marriage?

Please explain to me how co-habitation will damage a child. Not how break up of parents damage a child.

As I have told you before, the due diligence required to know what someone you grew up with will do in the future is already hard enough, talkless of someone you hardly know and just met. I am very confiddent very few people here will think it is responsible and sufficient to say your due diligence was done based on one date and marrying the person 3 months later. There is NO WAY you can state you know the person well and claim you are sure your marriage will be successful so you don't need to worry about any risk. That is not entering marriage properly. Faith is not due diligence or responsible.

Would you put your child in a plane if 50% of planes crash? Would you still put your child on the plane of an airline that have the best record of crashes? Or you would say "NO, I am a responsible parent who loves my child and values their life"?

TV01: A simple deduction given that co-habitation is more fragile and does not have all/the full benefits of marriage.

But please read this and note the study cited.

http://upallnight5210..co.uk/2012/04/reader-response-truth-about.html

Amsorry?

So you can't show that children raised by married parents are better balanced than children raised by co-habiting couples?

You keep on giving me the differing risk kids face of parents breaking up, not kids being damaged by having co-habiting couples.


On the other hand, can you make a simple deduction then that marriage and procreation is an irresponsible act since:

- Half of marriages fail.
- Children raised in broken relationships suffer and are not balanced.
- So marrying to procreate is actually irresponsible since we are responsible (have a duty) for the best upbringing for kids.
- It is even more irresponsible if you do not make the right due diligence to protect this high potential risk of failure and depend of blind faith to ensure a successful marriage.

Surely you would not put your child on a plane with 50% chance of crashing, why create them when you have 50% chance of damaging them?

ronkebp: ^^^^ Eti gba tan!!!i will cross my legs with my satelite gele....and dem no born Saga well not to prostrate well!!!

When I have seen your sister and valuated her assets to see if she is worthy and capable of producing the great collection of mini-Saga rugrats, you can start dreaming of that.

Now lets look at women and their rules (which they want only guys to adhere to). Their preaching of decency, pricinples and consideration for feelings which they whine about when men do things to their own desire.

1. Given your correct number/contact details out to a guy but refused to pick up the guy’s call or reply to messages.

2. Given a wrong number/contact details out to a guy.

Why not just do the principled thing by saying you are sorry but you are not interested and you do not wish to give your number out and you respect them that is why you are telling them and being open and upfront?

Because you are not a "real woman" to "woman up" and be blunt? But you want guys to be "honest" (as you guys love to say)?

3. Rude to a guy that approached you simply because you don’t fancy him, not because he did something wrong.

4. Rude to a guy that approached you simply because you wanted to use him to show off/shine in public, not because he did something wrong.

Why can't you be a nice person that does not exploit others?

Because you are selfish and only think of yourself and what benefits you? But you demand guys to not think of themselves and their own interest?

5. Ended a relationship with a guy by starting and/or consistently starting a fight to get him to break up with you or so you can break up with him by saying it is not working out.

6. Cheated on a guy.

Why can't you be "woman enough" to sit him down and say you are not interested anymore? Because you do not have the ballsbooobs to stand in front of someone you know you would upset and take the emotional blackmail?

But you want men to have the balls to tell you it is over so you can emotional blackmail them about all you have done for them and cry all day till they feel like the worst thing ever on Earth?

7. Gone on a date with a guy (for which he is paying) despite the fact you know you are unlikely to date him, just to have a free day out and get out of the house to be pampered.

8. Lead a guy on despite not being interested just to boost your ego or test your worth in the market.

Thinking of only yourself again and what you will get out of it?

But men are not suppose to think of themselves, they should be real men that think of your interest?

9. Cancelled a date on a guy at short notice without giving, or even having, a reasonable explanation to [give] him.

One word: Rude!

But you think you deserve real men that are polite and chivalrous?

10. Already started taking applications (give your number out to guys you like) or lined up another suitor before breaking up with a guy.

I thought women preach to gullible real men that you should end one relationship before starting another and you should commit completely to your partner when you are with them.

But men should not start lining up a new one because that is unfaithful?

11. Harass a guy that you want a type of relationship where you “tell each other everything and where there are no secrets” but yet you have secrets you refuse to share and hide from him after that agreement is made.

12. Break up with a guy (normally a long-term one), because you are not sure or you want the freedom to explore more, but you try and keep him as a friend just in case you need to go back to him.

Me, me, me!

One rule for him and another more favourable rule for you? What happened to that trust and honesty you whine about?


So why can't women do the right thing but they whine about guys doing the right thing?

stillwater: Sagamite stop being [i]irresponsible [/i]jare, go marry.

More enemies without my best interest at heart are showing up.

Carry go!

ronkebp: Right!!!! he wants to cook bitterleaf soup as if he knows where to locate the cooker and pot...

Kai! O da mor (You no recognise).

M[b]es[/b]hell[b]e[/b]n chef be us o!

TV01: Ok, I'm coming. For now I'll leave you with the following;

1. All things being equal kids thrive better in a traditional two (birth) parent family, with the parents properly modelling their roles.
2. Co-habiting couples are less likely to stay together than married couples
3. Where there is abuse, one of the parents is usually not a birth parent.


Right, I'm back, start here - the benefits kick-in literally from birth;
http://narth.com/docs/gendercomplementarity.html

Others;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9139483/Marriage-is-best-for-raising-children-Government-says.html#
http://www.christianpost.com/news/federal-report-confirms-nuclear-family-best-for-childrens-health-48997/

This does not show me children raised by married parents are better balanced than children raised by co-habiting couples.

Please show me that. Or show me that part in the links you put that does.

Don't show me children raised in broken relationships are more likely to be less balanced.

Show me children raised by married parents are better balanced than children raised by co-habiting couples.

I wait.

armyofone: suffer head soup. when we asked you to appreciate a lady, you started blowing some cretinous grammar .
i wouldn't touch that onugbu soup you cooking with 150ft pole.

by the way, make sure you pluck the bitter leaf from the stem, wash with 1 drum of water, leave some bitter and blend
with grinding stone. also use atarodo and ata wewe for the soup.
make yellow garri eba not some yeye poundo.

no too much salt or maggi okay.
add crayfish and prawns.

attempting indeed

See your yansh!

Where were you when I was cooking it. When I finish you come dey give instructions.

[Now I need to bookmark this]

Bitter leaf soup is ready.

And Ronke go say I no get value. Tschew!

ronkebp: O/Y/O .......On Your Own!!!!!

Yeye woman!

And you were behaving like if you no recognise value, now you are scared.

[quote author=Miss_Ife]OMG !!! I'm gonna get really mad now ! So I left for just a few hours and the one simple little thing I asked for, nobody remembered ?!

Saga is getting married and I haven't even got an invitation ! o ma se o !!


Anyways, Saga, congratulations, though I'm not quite sure whose sister you're getting married to, having either CC or ronke as in-laws is enough for u to have my blessing Go and marry NOOOOOWWW !! And this time, don't mess up and don't forget ME ! I'm ready for a BIG party !

Now, as TV rightly pointed out, where's harakiri ? Who has a sister left for him ?

harraaaaaakiiiiirriiiiii ? Come here, we gotta talk [/quote]Invite dey come your way jor.

TV01: Yes, co-habiting can lead to well-balanced kids, but empirical evidenc shows that it does not do so as successfully as marriage.

Before I address the rest, please show me the empirical evidence.

ronkebp: Really?little wander you are so attached to my name thank God that is not my real name... ...my sister lives in London....sorry to burst your bubble...you will have to travel far and wide to reach her.....and how Ibo fit mix with Ondo blood....quality one for that matter....

AHHHHHH! SHEYGE! O GBE!

Shine shine bobo. Get your swagger out. Get you grove on! Omo na ma fall ni, straight up! (The babe will fall) Nibo lo ti wa to ni ri value. (where does she think she is from not to see the value). Iwor ma ni Saga. (Na you be Saga) Okunrin mefa. (6 men in 1 man).

Wey am? Wey the peperenpe? Wey the sugar sugar?

We are saying thank you Jesus
Thank you my Lord!
We are saying thank you Jesus
Thank you my Lord!