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mukina2: you can only promise heaven and earth when you call and get me

fake number, fake name, real number real name, i am the owner of my phone, if i do not feel like picking ,i wont pick, after sometime you'll get pissed off and forget about me

if i happen to see you in the street again, will just tell you aww sorry you called? call me later in the evening, the cycle goes on and on

Just accept Females are smart

If you hit a bad patch and unfortunately break that cycle, pick up the call and fall for my promises then you are suya.

It is my light saber and my love and if I don't feel like giving them, I won't give them.

If we happen to meet on the street again and you agree to no strings attached and some occassional booty calls, I might offer my friendshagship instead of love.

Just accept homies like us as enlightened players.

[quote author=BABE!]Yes, I can. Big deal?[/quote]I just looked out of my window and saw 40 pigs flying.

There are news reports that Elvis Prestley is alive and he is about to be announced as the UN General Secretary.

TV01: Not just being married per se. After all there is no teat or validation required to wed.
The responsibility of putting someone else first, caring for that person sacrificially if required. Of potentially raising children - in incidentally the best setting for them - to become upright and productive members of society in their own right. That is being responsible and more.

How is putting someone else first a measure of responsibility? Do you know the meaning of the word?

How does caring for someone sacrificially a measure of responsibility? So why are you not in Afganistan and Haiti then? You are absolutely irresponsible?

How does the wish not to marry or have children denote irresponsibility?

How does being married the only avenue of putting someone else first?

How does co-habiting stop a child being upright and productive members of society?

What utter shyt are you chatting?

TV01: So George Clooney is invited to the UN because he's responsible? Spare me sir. Is he even an expert? He just has a profile and influence. But this is not about being responsible in isolation.

Fiscal responsibility/maturity should be a prerequisite to marriage.

Do you know irresponsible people that are invited by the UN to come and give a speech?

I thought you said he was looking irresponsible to the world?

How did you arrive at such lame assertion?

What utter shyt are you chatting?

TV01: If one is primarily selling marriage counselling or a family oriented product and falsely professes to an idyllic marriage as a means of pitching the endeavour, they are a fraud. Especially if that playing away is ongoing. Yes, there could have been a misstep or any number of issues. But if these were resolved and the ideal restored fine, not if he's an inverterate cheat and pretends otherwise.

Selling yourself or a product based on an ideal you do not truly subscribe to is in a sense fraud. Especially if you are practising the opposite.

Premier league footballers that are whoremongers are selling their soccer skills. They are merely cheats not business/professional fraudsters.

Where British Airways are (or in the past have been)involved in fraudulent/monopolistic practices, regardless of the success of their enterprise, they are still fraudsters, just as yet unexposed.

What's your point exactly? that hiding falsehood does not matter? Fraud and apparent success often go hand in hand. Are'nt we Nigerians again?

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Who told you he was selling marriage counselling? How did selling the ability to teach people how to achieve goals equal selling marriage counselling?

Is Mckinsey a fraudulent business when they advertise their ability to help your organisation become better and they don't mention some of their advice that has failed?

Is the Catholic church a fraud when they preach that coming to them to submit to God will bring inner peace and closeness to God but yet don't highlight some of the kids given to them to care for with love got the kind of love no child should endure?

What shyt are you chatting?

Please answer.

mukina2: 1 and 2 are not evils at all.

They are very necessary, some guys stick like glue

i only know one and two

I agree with you as long as you agree with me that it is necessary to promise heaven and earth to a girl that wants to stick her leg together like if it was glued.

sweetchicks: i'll start by telling you that there are 3 motives to holding money just as there are 3 reasons to keep guys around: speculative,precautionary,transactionary motives. ....
i'll give examples;
1,2,3 is just a precautionary measure to avoid you yarning bollocks like this on NL... if ur ego has suffered..BIKO go hug transformer na!
7,8,9 is just for for partly transactionary and specualtive motives(you might end up with her afterall you were man enough to piock the tabs but if not, its still the same thing.. didnt u enjoy our company abi wats wrong with us having free day out?
while 10 is totally for speculative reasons... y shouldn't we line suitors once u leave an apartment, tell me if they will not put a big TO LEASE sign on it?

as for number 6, cheating according to you may not be cheating in my own books... shikena!
i really do not see any need to start lamenting on fb... they are[b] neccessary [/b]evils!!!

Hiya.

Let me start of by saying you are a cretin.

No 1, this is not FB, foool. Stop smoking the shyt you smoke on a week day.

No 2, I am not bitter about this, I am just enlightened. I am not a Real Man, ya kno. If I am bitter at all, it is about girls like you that come and call people like me baastard because I tapped it and ended it. You know what I mean? That hit and run that breaks your heart because you were already visioning the proposal and wedding?

I am the type of nigga that taps that arse and stand at the door waiving you goodbye, you were not good enough. Another one is coming in a few days and she would fall too. And I wouldn't even hide that fact from you. Stop moaning! You enjoyed when your leg was flailing in the air, didn't ya?

I am enlightened enough to know it is usually a game, and fortunately I am a good and experienced player, so no hard feelings. I play the game so well that I get as wonderfully messy like Messi. And I am not a baastard as I know my father and I look like his carbon copy.

Women love to misbehave but scream blue murder when they are at the short end of the stick.

I just read this very interesting post online:

Its amazing ANY man gets married. Why enter a contract which the other party can break at will. One which entails financial abuse, emotional abuse and the harvesting of your sperm, finishing with the legally sanctioned theft of your children, property and income? Did it once. Big mistake never to be repeated.

Western men don suffer o.

Johndoe100: As expected verbose empty words. Being married does heip you to become a bigger boy. Internet Nigerians may find such concepts strange but I speak the truth as it applies to Nigeria. Who cares what the whites do?
One last thing, in future show more respect or I may have to teach you a lesson.

At your level, fucktards may think marriage makes them a bigger boy.

At my level, it does not. That is not the thought process. Big boys are guys that can speak with sense and meet tough goals in life.

It is just the difference of life at the opposite ends of the intellectual totem pole.

TV01: Saga, ah!, ah!

How long will you be misled by a few unrepresentative outliers?

Does being a celebrity speaker on Sudan (or any subject), Unicef ambassador or fundraiser make one responsible in a societal/familial sense? Those things are little more than photo ops. Please.

In relationship terms he is unwilling or unable to hold it down. A failed marriage and a string of relationships. Serial dating? At 50? Stop already.

Not following rules? Ignoring societal norms. Fine, no problem. I'm interested to know what improvement that route offers to the rules, or how the replacement for these norms offer the same benefit to society and individuals?

You've yet to spell out a viable alternative, rather you keep peddling this schoolboy fantasy of a revolving door of nubile young beauties until the end. I won't fall for that. Specially not from one with your well publicised brainiac type intellect. Haba!

That's why I say such people can barely see beyond their own desires and gratification. Oya trumpet Madonnas rainbow adoptions na? It doesn't make her/them responsible, it's just an attention grab.

We are talking real life you are referencing hollywood.

Per the Bobo, I repeat if he is playing away and falsely using his supposed idyllic marraige to pitch hemself or his business, I consider him a fraudster. If he is selling his endeavours on other points, no problem, he becomes just another cheat. If.


You didn't answer my question about the girl? Quit frontin' abi na NL sissy?

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Since when did it make sense to say being married denotes and is a sign of responsibility?

Do you know the meaning of responsibility?

Since when did irresponsible people start getting invited to the UN to talk about extremely serious issues?

Does someone respected by the UN look irresponsible?

Or are you his landlord and he has been unprincipled and irregular in his rent payments whilst still making millions from his work?

So if a business man or a business advertises his/their numerous successes but not his/thier failures, does that make him a fraudster or the business a fraud?

Is Mckinsey a fraud? Is the Catholic church a fraud? Is Pfizer a fraud? Is British Airways a fraud?

Lets address those before moving to the others you wrote there.

chaircover: Hmmmmmm Sagalulu!!!!!!

The only thing I can read from your story is that you travel “chicken or beef meal” cattle class. There is no way you would be in Business or first and still be able to lean over far enough to read what your neighbour is writing on his landing card.

So saggy, are you saying that one of the things that you are bringing to the table for Mrs Saggy to contend with apart from your swagga is deep vein thrombosis

On a serious note saggy, if it ever goes titts up, you can always make a heap of money teaching girls self esteem. Many of us need it


. . . and dont mind that cheating fellow on your flight. . Babanla cretin ni

LMAO!!!

When I wrote that part, I was thinking and knew some people would be saying "economy ni bobo yi wor sha" (Na economy this dude ride in).

Ah!!! Money no dey for business or first class o. If dem allow me to pay less for cargo area, I for pay and no go dey borrow money from pips to get in economy.

Odunnu: sey na me? I no you truss me

Yeye girl!

No be you pour hot water for the head of a guy for asking for your phone number?

nitrogen: A victim of no 12 is reporting sir, we dated for 3 years and all in a bid to explore more, she broke up with me and told me we could still be friends. Imagine!
Friendship my foot, na thunder go fire her yansh.

You have sense.

Never fall for that shyt, tell her to piss off!

jay bee: Nah........
Me Julie

Because she was nice to you and gave you number does not mean she never gave a lot of men before you fake numbers and an evil stare.

TV01: If he was indeed playing away and if he a selling point of himself and his business is an idyllic marriage that makes him a fraudster. I don't know his wife position, what she's doing or what agreement they have, but the fact remains, he's perpetrating a fraud on the public and has lost any right to privacy in that regard.

You are wrong again.

No 1, he merely mentioned his family life in his background information. It is not the core of his value proposition, his skills and knowledge are.

No 2, saying his wife is the greatest thing that has happened to him, makes him complete and his best friend is not the same thing as saying "I will never cheat". It states nothing about the ups and downs of their relationship, it just declares he likes her alot.

TV01: No, he is looking more and more like a man who can't manage responsibility beyond the satisfaction of his immediate desires.

How? You heard he is bankrupt? He owes you money?

You hired him and he was late for work or incompetent in the work you gave him?

HOW?

He looks irresponsible when he is organising dinner for hollywood movers and shakers to get funding for Obama?

He looks irresponsible when he is invited by the UN to talk about the sufferings of people in South Sudan?

What utter rubbish are you chatting?

Please explain.

TV01: Notice how his relationships are becoming shorter and shorter?

Since when did instantaneous and random coincidence become scientific fact?

But lets still test your maths with the length of time with his exes in chronological order:

Kelly Preston - 2 years
Talia Balsam - 4 years
Céline Balitran - 3 years
Lisa Snowdon - 5 years (very casual)
Renée Zellweger - 1 year
Krista Allen - 6 years
Sarah Larson - 1 year
Elisabetta Canalis - 2 years
Stacy Keibler - Ongoing

How are they getting shorter?

What rubbish are you chatting?

TV01: Watch that space long-term, it will be a great case-study. Anyone using him as a template will in all liklihood end up bitter and lonely - if not alone. Especially without his means and fame.

What case studies do you have to back up this "fact" you pulled from thin air?

Secondly, what proportion of married men don't end up bitter and even lonely?

TV01: A role model for whom? for what? A generation of feckless men who never mature into adulthood. He is little better than your typical callow baby-father. Just richer more famous and a little more careful. No woman who holds her long-term relationship health and has a pure - not just immediate gratification and the chance to tailcoat in mind - vision for her future will get with or stay with him.

For a generation of men with sense, balls and who do not live on lululand where they think they need to follow some silly rules by others to show they are adults. Rules that has failed, continue to fail and will fail more lululand advocates in the future because they senseless believe in it and live on hope to protect them from its failures.

Men that believe they should just get into marriage at all cost and then hope/have faith it would work out based on their personal beliefs and positivity.

Such mentality is not different from someone that buys and takes ecstacy from a tout on the streets to get a high and then hope all goes well.

TV01: Part of the responsibility of being a man is to locate and find a girl who matches up and wants to commit to marriage for the right reasons and because you are the right person. That has nothing to do with money. Or fame.

Any news? Has any comely lass made it past your intellect lately?

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Where did you get this utter clunking rubbish?

jay bee: I know a girl that I can vouch she hasn't done any of the stuff on your list Sir

Mary, mother of Jesus?

I have added a 12th.

1. Given your correct number/contact details out to a guy but refused to pick up the guy’s call or reply to messages.

2. Given a wrong number/contact details out to a guy.

3. Rude to a guy that approached you simply because you don’t fancy him, not because he did something wrong.

4. Rude to a guy that approached you simply because you wanted to use him to show off/shine in public, not because he did something wrong.

5. Ended a relationship with a guy by starting and/or consistently starting a fight to get him to break up with you or so you can break up with him by saying it is not working out.

6. Cheated on a guy.

7. Gone on a date with a guy (for which he is paying) despite the fact you know you are unlikely to date him, just to have a free day out and get out of the house to be pampered.

8. Lead a guy on despite not being interested just to boost your ego or test your worth in the market.

9. Cancelled a date on a guy at short notice without giving, or even having, a reasonable explanation to [give] him.

10. Already started taking applications (give your number out to guys you like) or lined up another suitor before breaking up with a guy.

11. Harass a guy that you want a type of relationship where you “tell each other everything and where there are no secrets” but yet you have secrets you refuse to share and hide from him after that agreement is made.

12. Break up with a guy (normally a long-term one), because you are not sure or you want the freedom to explore more, but you try and keep him as a friend just in case you need to go back to him.

Is there any woman that can claim she has never done any one of the above?

harakiri: @TV01


First of all, at 32yrs of age i am far from being juvenile and if views that differ from yours now get relegated to the "juvenile" department, then you need to get your wires reset. Second, Madonna in her fifties looks hotter than most women her age and still has much younger men falling over each other to win her attention. Third, George Clooney at 50yrs is one of the hottest middle aged men alive! You would be lucky to look half as hot or as good as him at that age (that's if you don't already look worn out and finished already).

You really can't take him seriously.

This is a guy that says he thinks marriage can be successful if people do their due diligence thoroughly about their future partners. And when asked what due diligence he did about his marriage that he is confident about, he said he had one date and decided to marry her, which he did a few months later.

TV01: Fourthly
Sagamite, your playing away bobo on the plane - if he was indeed playing away - has utterly foregone any right to anonymity. If he was playing away whilst using the image of an idyllic marriage to publicly sell himself and his business. Not that I want to know or feel he should be exposed, just that the basis you gave is not the right one.

Hell No!

It is none of my business. He has the right to privacy and do whatever he wants to do in private.

TV01: Fifthly
Juvenile notions of being 70 with a nubile 30 year old on your arm don't hold water. Whatever your gender. See how sorry Madonna looks. Her boyfriends are pretty much her daughters class-mates. Tragic for them both. George Clooney is looking sadder by the day and he's barely 50. Face it when you're that age, the probability is that anyone so young and fit getting with you, is not for you but for your fame and/or money.And it's highly unlikely any of you will ever have the means to live that lifestyle anyway.

You are so wrong it is shocking.

George Clooney is looking like a comic-book hero by the day. Like a fcking ultimate role model.

And the young girls are not marrying young guys for money these days?

[quote author=Miss_Ife]Oh, I was having fun for a while, imagining you lecturing us about fashion, perfume and cosmetics

Well, I'll have to find something else to make fun of you [/quote]Ewww!!!

Moderator, this is unfair, libelous and painful harassment!

[quote author=Miss_Ife]I'm not being judgemental, just stating my opinion, which is very personal and far from being a general truth

So saga, tell us everything, u're one of those metrosexual guys ? Those who spend more time in the bathroom than their girls and know more about fashion than I do ? [/quote]God forbid bad thing.

Tufiakwa! [Snaps his finger over his head]

I am like the original, unrefined man. From the days when men used to men.

dayokanu: The NL whose office he used to work is my friend, hope you knw

Feel free to name your friend or his firm.

Can a married man have the freedom to scope how fine a woman is like I can?

[quote author=Miss_Ife]@sagamite : that's why I don't like those metrosexualcave men/over-educated/smart looking boys Can't trust a man who bothers about what other people think of him...[/quote]Oi!!!

Easy. Don't be so judgemental and damage our reputation.

My point just shows example of the "responsible" men that scream for marriage, say they are happily married and their wife is there missing rib are not always saying the truth.

I know these, I know these murrafckers and they can't deceive me about marriage with their untruths.

dayokanu: Sagamite,

I know the guy you are talking about he is like 40.

When trying to keep anonymity, I don't confirm OR deny anything. I just leave all guesses without answers or correction because it is the best approach to avoid people being able to narrow the clues down. It was like when someone was saying I attended University of Bristol, I did not confirm or deny it.

I am keeping this guys anonymity completely off NL as it is the principled and fair thing to do. My fine personal qualities ronkebp fails to appreciate. Tschew. Shior.

ronkebp: Sagalu...what was your analysis of the wife you saw in the picture, is she close (appearance wise) to the girlfriend he was flying with?

And so because you kiss, hug and do lovey-dovey stuff in public,does mean that you are romantic?

I am not romantic, I CAN BE sweet. (functional phrase dey there o)

I would take the girl on the plane over the wife.

Wife was, at best, very average in everything about her and the girl on the plane was 2 notches above her in looks and had more fashionista style.

Slyr0x: We flirt around all day but before we go to sleep we always think about the girl we truly care about.

We DO have feelings, we just don't feel comfortable sharing them unless we feel comfortable with you.

Not all will cheat, lie and hurt you. There are some who will love you truly and make you so happy

Even though we don't cry doesn't mean we don't care.

Girls need to stop going for the "bad boys" and start taking notice in the decent boys that are nice

Just because one messed about with you, or cheated on you doesn't mean that we're all like that.

[s]When a girl says 'no', a boy hears it as 'try again tomorrow'. [/s]

If a guy pauses a video game or stops watching his favorite team's football match just to text/call you back marry him.

Some of us want a girl to listen to us asw ell, we act like we can handle everything sometimes we can't

For some of us, football will come before you, if we put you before football, we've either cheated or its a friendly match

We aren't all the same. It's your judgement that is bad, not the boys you choose

Not all our female friends are in the f.u.c.kzone

We don't read your minds, just spit it out!

Sex doesn't mean we love you and a baby wont make us stay!!

We're not gonna say all the right words all the time, but we love you and that's the most important thing.

If we're playing Fifa/PES please do not interrupt unless your topless

We don't like it when your makeup stains our clothes. Don't wear five layers of it.

'Cos we say sweet things to you doesn't mean we don't say same to[b] 15other girls[/b]


Okay. .enough of that. .lemme see you add to this "great" list of mine

I thought I was going to be bored halfway but this is really a good list especially the ones in red.

I object with some but I specifically and wholeheartedly object to the strike-through. I don't chase girls.

finallytalking: Has anyone seen the new coca cola advert?
I think coca cola should re-edit the text in their latest promotional advert. There is a very insensitive line there:
'WHILE THE REST OF THE WORLD WORRIES ABOUT THE FUTURE, ONE BILLION AFRICANS ARE SHARING COKE'.
Am i the only one who thinks this is a put down?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdXvgrraezE

No!

You are just one of the reetarded fucktards with a chip on his shoulder.

This discussion about happy men in marriage actually brings back memories of a pertinent encounter I had recently.

Wow!

On my last trip to Naija, on my way back, at the airport, due to my excessive ashaworism I was assessing the talent around me on the immigration/customs queue (the secure one after check-in) at Muritala Muhammed Airport.

There was really only about 3 chics providing pleasure to the eye and 2 were with men accompanying them.

With discrete style, I casually dey pleasure my eye dey go on the queue and tried to study the interactions of the ones accompanied with the men accompanying them. One couple appear as if they were dating but the passion was not intense anymore as they hardly shared any intimate interaction despite looking in their late 20s. I know I kiss my ex-girlfriends a hell of alot on the face while holding their waist, even in public (ronkebp, and you will open your yeye mouth that I no dey provide value? Tschew). It was strange as the girl was the finest of the bunch. Real quality in the looks department. Baba nla hot girl. Looked like Nigerian version of Lauren London. In my view, put a ring-on-it-quick type of girl. For these couple they just chatted but the way the girl looks at him, she had an engagement ring and the fact they were travelling together, it is either they were going out and it has cooled down or he is chasing her and spending a lot of money at it. I would go for the former.

For the second couple, they too did not appear to be lovely dovely in public. They also looked in their late 20s/early 30s. They just chatted like friends/cousins. The girl was just fairly nice. Two notches above average. In my view, threshold level of being marriable. The guy instantly gave me the vibe of the type of gentlemanly qualities women would fall for. Modernly and well-dressed, tallish, in quite good shape (no hint of pot-belly at his age), good pronunciation and accentless, looks like a professional and well-educated, quite soft-spoken but yet assertive (diplomatic), does not look violent, shy or like a push-over despite his gentlemanly looks. He just looked like a real man with composure and fine sub-metrosexual qualities. I could see how girls would be happy to be introduced to him in a party and be thinking of the future since he exudes provider, take home to mummy and show-offable to my girlfriends.

The third chic was on her own. Fine, wedding ring and very busy on her BB throughout the time.

Anyway, I pass through immigration with the normal attempt to extort money from me because they think I look too fresh. Went through the air-conditionless shame we call airport with workers congregating for a loud chat and sleeping in public view on airport benches. Then got into the plane and "Waalah" the 2 people next to me were the second couple. Mr Gentleman did not prove me wrong. Very polite, said hi, offered me a handshake, I returned the class (emi nor ni di e [I get a little too na] ) and we sat down.

During the flight, the two were constantly chatting but it was hardly audible to me but I did hear from the girl's accent that she was Britico-Nigerian. The guy on the other hand was fully Nigerian because he had to fill in the non-citizen form people fill on planes and while he was doing this, I saw his full name.

While they were chatting, the guy was consistently on his ipad doing some work. Then he typed something on the ipad and gave her to read, she laughed and took the ipad and typed something back. The exchange continued a few rounds. I saw some of these conversations on the ipad and it revealed that they were together as it was loving things they were saying to each other. At Heathrow, after baggage claim and passport check, I saw the girl waiting at a corner for him as those of us with EU passport go through a faster queue while people with non-EU passport go through a more thorough checking queue.

I was really slightly surprised the guy was fully Nigerian as he was very polished and I was thinking this must be one of those rich people's kids that travel alot and I was also curious about what he does for a living, so when I got home, I googled his name to see "whom im papa be and where did he study". To my shock horror, he was not from a prominent family and grew up in a Yoruba city outside Lagos and attended one of the top Nigerian universities (UI, OAU or Unilag). He had a middle-class upbringing, worked in some of Nigeria's top firms and rose fast then set-up his own business and is still in his early 30s. To my further shock, he set up the business with someone I know and have hanged out with when I was in Naija after months of infrequent chatting (professionally, not romantically) while I was in the UK and she was in Nigeria. This business partner actually worked in a firm one famous NLer used to work for and it was at their offices I met up with her some years back when I was in Nigeria.

He did have a LOT of stuff about himself on the net as he obviously uses it to promote/market his business, so I decided to read more especially as he was an acquintance's business partner and we coincidentally met. He was also a professional inspirational speaker on the side and obviously like most Nigerians in that area faith plays a part in this. I saw several write-ups where he highlighted how he became born again and which led to him being a Pastor in his church. As an inspirational speaker, he was obviously very good with words and combining them to generate a mood. He listed that his two greatest decisions was when he gave his life to God and when he married his wife of X years who completes him and is his best friend.

When I looked at the pix of him with his wife that he put up, it was not the girl on the plane. That explained his wedding ring and her lack of one.

I have left specificity out of my write up as I respect the guy's right to privacy and anonymity. Furthermore, he has done nothing to warrant my being an arse to him. Moreover, he was a very cool guy during the flight.

harakiri: EXACTLY!!! So in other words, the only reason you are getting married is to fit in to the societal expectations of people. You are getting married to keep up with the Joneses. You are getting married so that people won't see you as the "odd man" out.

This my friend, is one of the several WRONG reasons for getting married i have emphasized on countless times on this forum.

Remember, fucktards need to be followers!

harakiri: THANK YOU SO SO SO MUCH FOR THAT. How about Jay-Z? He was 39yrs when he got married and he was definitely respected the world over to the extent he has an express road named after him in Nigeria during the Yar Adua administration (it's called CARTER ROAD). How about Obama? He was 38yrs when he got married and that explains why his kids were still very young when he became president.

A lot of folks here really need to think twice before they type.

Come on, you should know Simon Cowell is not respected.

People just shake in their boots, repeatedly nod their head for approval and stammer in his presence.

armyofone: Sagamite, go run bath for me and stop making mouth here . also place the scented candles by the side of the tub . bring my white towel and not the red one. How many times do i say that again eh?
i'm going to bed early. please feed the kids and get their daytime clothes ready for tmr.
where is the charcoal grill? the steak yesterday was not peppery, too hard. marinate and cook it longer next time.

In your wildest dreams.

I slap women on the bottom while they do all that in the house.

Johndoe100: I read what you wrote and you just confirmed that you are a boy. Do you think i am a small girl that you are trying to impress with this bs?
Job? Do you think we still work for people? Look you are probably a only a few years older than my sons. When you grow into a man and stop all this fantasizing that you do, we can have an adult conversation. Now you are simply childish.

You are a moooron!

A foool at 40 is a foool forever.

Better learn how to say intelligent things in public and have better analytical skills instead of saying being married makes someone a bigger boy.

You keep on saying moronic things like that and I would intellectually flog you and give you a lecture.

ronkebp: Bill Gate stll got married, whether he married early or not....the whole thing, is majority of this top, influential men still got married at a point, whether the marraige lasted or not is of no importance, they still saw marraige as a stage in life and they willingly passed through that stage.

That is not the point.

The point is that did he not command respect until he married as some people suggested?

Is lack of marriage a respect-blocker for men?

HELL NO!

ronkebp: And this is all you have to bring to the table, out of over 150 important values.....You still fall my hand

that ponmo lips....is very funny.....elenu bankole....lol...

Yeye girl!

Be fooling yourself. What can a woman want that I don't have?

Name it!

I am the complete man. The real deal. Gods gift to hot women.

chaircover: Saggy dear it may be wrong but in reality, this is what happens. Look around you and tell me How many top pastors are single; How many Obas are single and how many top men in govt dont have a first lady. Even your Prince William got married.

You think it is easy to keep a woman in the house? . . . . it is probably harder than getting a first class in nuclear physics. At least with that, you have text books that you can study

Most of those people did not need to be married to get to the top or be respected at the top. The tended to need intellect, wealth and power to get to the top and be respected at the top.

Most of those people you listed have functional duties to be married as well.

If I have no interest to take on the hard challenge of Nuclear physic why will I have to self-flagellate my life and peace by taking on anything harder?

ronkebp: OOOO, so your value is an expired intellect abi? , you want all your kids to be talking at random at home all because they "think" they are intelligent ...you can do better Sagalu....that one no be value....think harder!!! what are you bringing to the table that would make a lady think she has hit the jackpot.....

Kai! No respect!

No appreciation for the finer things in life!

Just to shut you up, I will list some other things:

- Fine boy
- Ponmo lips
- Professional boy
- Prospects
- Objectivity and fairness
- Great sense of humour
- Lover boy
- Bedmatics
- Sees partners happiness as priority
- Great listener
- Good cook
- Fantastic problem solver
- SWAAAAAAAAGER

Fimile, baby, fimile. Mo she mor baby, fimile.

chaircover: I wish there were a lot more girls with saggys confidence and self esteem; we wont be reading half the stories that we read on here.

Moving on; What I beleive JD is saying is that marriage comes with responsibility and it is harder to be a married man that it is to be single and even as men, there are certain circles that you have to be married to gain their respect/to be taken seriously.

Saggy abeg free me o! I am jetlagged so dont even start do any surgery on my post cos I dont have the energy for it & of course lets not forget the fact that I am a product of a failed educational system anyway

Pele, you can't escape it. I was waiting for JohnDoe to respond before I give the lecture on the bolded!

That is blatantly worng!

In any circle of men, it is INTELLECT, WEALTH and POWER that gains a man respect. Not how many children you have or you are raising.

When I am in the midst of men, be it White, Black, Green whatever, when I talk seriously for while (not when I am my silly joker self), you will quickly understand where the respect lies and the dynamics in the room. Just giving them pure intellect, and BOOM the respect is there. You will see all the guys when talking looking me in the eye for affirmation that I am agreeing with what they are saying. Turn by turn they are all doing it. I no get pikin o!

Make I no boast, in my past jobs I have normally been the only black person, but the Whites themselves quickly fall in line that this guy is to be respected based on intellect and pure aplomb/confidence.

Even just in a barbers shop (full of men) you will see the same thing.

When JohnDoe goes out on an outing next, he should try and observe it amongts men and learn.