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pendo89: Neither.
@ luck am from Land of hakuna matata

What?

You are not Nigerian? You are from East Africa?

happy98: ok pendo89banned.
Reason? no idea.


yep 'drug overdose by the mum.She followed a year later.Karma I guess.

Are these AAs or Nigerians?

ronkebp: It is called selflessness.....did you get my email?

I am not asking about the essence, I am asking about the logic.

Yeah, I did. I have replied.

kandiikane: ^ Oh, yes you do.

I could go back again and tell you to bring evidence of such, but that would be cruel.

kandiikane: Lmaoo, what? I am the most unbiased person you will ever meet. I am not a feminist. Everything thing I do, I do without being biased because I like to put myself in every shoe. I.e, I'm muslim but many will think, I am christian or an athiest because I do not impose things on people. You started insulting first, I don't insult without reason.

You must have said something silly for me to attack.

As I said, I don't insult for nothing and I definitely don't insult parents.

luckgames: Have you done some self assessment to enure you have not contributed to the failure of the relationship?
Why do you think he got himself to blame ?
He might be very happy that you are gone too

She actually always comes across as a classy lady that is why I never thought to ask her this question.

One of the ones I feel the husband made a good choice.

If it had been most other females, I would have asked.

Adaeze003: [/color]not guilty of any[color=#006600]

Liar.

desertboom: sagamite. . . . I dey watch u.

Say wetin?

You be assassin?

kandiikane: ^when I first came across you, you were very brash and crude. You remember the 'ini edo topless thread'?



I noticed a change recently when I came back, that has changed abit.
I have not received one insult from you but we will see.

I had no issues with you in general but the way you came across.

Because that is what I thought you deserved!

You came across as a belligerent and biased feminist. My pet hate.

And your quick-to-insulting-of-parents did not elude class and someone I should respect. I like ladies.

kandiikane: Aha, I'm shocked at the links.

I guess I'm not the only one even jaybee asked what got into you.

So lets just say you read me utterly wrong.

I am a maverick and a peculiar person this can easily be attributed to my superb brain. I feel confident enough to challenge the norm and not to follow the crowd.

Some girls will have problems with me because they expect, and are used to, guys praising them even when they are wrong and they are a complete arse. That is suppose to be the norm and culture for "mature, real men". The ability to take a woman's shyt is the measure of maturity to some moorons.

Sagamite is not like that.

If you are nice and cute, I would call you and bluntly tell you that you are and even say how much I miss you. I am very good at praising ladies.

If you are not, I would tell you you are not and direct you on how to fck off (after a series of warning).

I am the most objective and fair person you would ever come across.

pendo89: I have never picked a guy,Actually he pursued me through thick and thin. And when I got to know him we were just friends.
But he had a very very rough and sad past. Not criminal but cruel and abusive dad.
I started seeing those traits in him later into the relationship.He was a dove outside but full of anger unexplainable. Exploding kind and very bitter.
I think his past haunted him.
I am sure I pitied him and wanted to see him happy.But NOTHING could soften his heart.
Instead my heart suffered as I tried to warm his!
Some people are just rocks.

When I say picked a guy, I did not mean pursue him. I meant agree to date him. Women tend to have the power to make that decision.

I would be surprised you were friends and you never knew about the anger before you started dating.

Most likely you knew about it and decided he was a Happiness project you want to undertake and started the relationship.

You wanted the euphoria of being the one to change him but ended up with the hurt of him not changing.

pendo89: sagamite

I was once in a relationship where I was trying too hard to keep it going.
It was already dead but I wanted him to walk out first without ever blaming me for not doing my part.
And the more I tried to do my best,the more I became weak and drained within because it was not being reciprocated. I lost myself in the process.
Well eventually it was over and it was the best relief for me. My life came back.
I look back and think I was either stupid or blind. But I am glad he's only got himself to blame.

That is why I doubt that you can ever please a guy except he chooses to.

You women are the ones frequently with the responsibility for choosing and determining if a relationship would start.

Unfortunately most of you girls like to pick guys you can't have when you are at your aesthetic peak. You like the challenge and the danger of trying to change him. You like the adrenaline rush of not knowing what he would do next. The more a guy likes a young girl, the more likely she would play up. You girls do not like the good guys then until you start seeing the decline in your aesthetic beauty and the accompanying decline in approach by men or decline in interest in you when another girl (normally younger) is there.

I bet deep down you thought this guy was not the right one for you before you started dating him?

Although sometimes good guys do lose interest.

Kandiikane, you told me to wait here o.

Wey the posts?

And, again, this is the guy that hates if his wife wants to work?

https://www.nairaland.com/405445/ladies-arrange-order-preferred-attributes/9#5635027

https://www.nairaland.com/405445/ladies-arrange-order-preferred-attributes/9#5635168

kandiikane: Lol.

Ok, wait there.

P.s, my assertion is not that you call women names because of their gender but don't like most because they challenge you. Typical 1800 male. Probably also hate the idea of women voting and working.

This is the same guy that hates the idea of women working?

www.nairaland.com/870887/how-career-women-cope-domestic/2#10201164

Na wah for conjectures.

kandiikane: Lol.

Ok, wait there.

P.s, my assertion is not that you call women names because of their gender but don't like most because they challenge you. Typical 1800 male. Probably also hate the idea of women voting and working.

Lets park your garri N20 conjectures for now.

Please get the posts first.

kandiikane: LWKMD!

Sagamite, those are the only handful of women you would call "nice".

You have used 'cretin' on about 98% of people you have argued with on NL, even if its on how many sugars to put in a tea. Maybe, I am even being generous with the 98%. From all your arguments, first word I see is "cretin".

I see coogar is following your footsteps too.

Okay. Let me give you a challenge:

Go and pick examples of posts where I called someone names and you think it was unwarranted (i.e. they were being sensible). Preferably pick ones that backs your assertion that I call people names because they are female and dared argue with me.

I wait.

This should be easy since you said you are being generous with 98%.

kandiikane: @sagamite, you know why you find most women selfish and even get into abusive arguments with them?
It is because you hate when a woman challenges your ideas. If you discuss something and a woman has a different opinion to it, your first word to them is "cretin".

You finding most women "not nice" shows it is you with a problem not them. The way you interact with MOST women shows you to be a typical stereotype of a naija man.

Don't hate me, just throwing it out there.

That is purely a silly accusation.

1) If anything, I call men cretins more than I call women on NL.

2) People like chaircover, jennykadri, Missy B and ronkepb consistently challenge my views with their different views but I have never insulted them BECAUSE they apply alot of sense and logic when they talk. At least, I would most times find their arguments specious, not purely moronic. (ronkebp even had the audacity to say I have no value. She is lucky she is married. )

When I call people cretins is when they say STUUUPID things without any evidence of applying their brain. And worse still is when they don't take correction and want to stick with their fucktardism.

Now to give you evidence that I don't just throw cretin at people, here is someone that recently called me (A WHOLE ME, SAGAMITE FROM SAGAMU-EWA) slow IN THINKING. My job o. My means of livelihood: THINKING:

https://www.nairaland.com/968810/victor-moses-wigan-rejects-chelseas#11170579

KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI! ABOMINATION!

But guess what? I did not insult him because I could see the REASON why he said so. And I know if I was in his shoes and seeing that, I would do the same thing or worse, so I should be willing to take what I dish out. Hence, I just explained myself to him.

That is an example of why I keep on telling everyone on NL that I am the most objective and fair person you can ever come across. (ronkebp, take note: VALUE. Your husband get this kind?) . Remember, I did not do that under duress or monitoring. I did that based on fair judgement where I was judge, jury and executioner. And we all know how good an executioner I am.

And no, I have no problems. Most women are just semi-dysfunctional and I don't stand for their shyt. And majority of them think as the "fairer sex" they are allowed and entitled to be dysfunctional and there should be no consequence and it should not be reciprocated.

TV01: Saga, Saga, Saga, did you really ask that question? You may consider yourself "open" to marriage and children, but do you really think yourself ready?

As a place for developing character, family life will teach you patience, understanding and a whole host of other qualities - if you didn't possess them prior.

Marriage aside, that question has much further reaching implications - to national and global level sef. Unless your question is merely rhetorical, I am quite taken aback.

Abi is this not the Sagamite that epitomises the height of intellect and manly virtue?

Yepa.
TV

My friend, abeg, just answer the question na.

Believe me, when I ask questions it is the preceding part of demonstrating my beautiful intellect. Go and check my historical posts.

Things can actually sound good when they are funky, but when one thinks deeply and intellectually about them, they can see it is nonsense.

[quote author=Missy_B]False!
This phenomenon is not gender-specific. . . There are also men who have nothing to give but demand everything, demand respect, but don't even know how it's spelt.
It has to do with the individual, there's NO reason it should be attributed to women alone.[/quote]Partially true!

But I am talking on average. Women are inherently more selfish.

[quote author=Missy_B]It is alright for a woman to want to be treated as gold, it is the norm, Naija men are just not familiar with it.[/quote]Treat them like gold if they deserve to be treated like gold.

Women (when they are still attractive), on average, would not stick with the foool that pants and eats from their hand, they would go for the more risque guy.

[quote author=Missy_B]What arrogance! And, you're still wondering why I chose Don over you? Commot jor. [/quote]What did I just say about women going for the risque guy.

You proved me right. Am baaad!

You will pick a male slut over a bible-thumping, innocent, butter-no-go-melt-in-his-mouth good boy like me.

Ranks007: How much was Cahill, Bosingwa, bought when he came to chelsea?

Racism apart, I bet you, if Victor Moses was a Brazilian, Chelsea wouldn't had come up with such a price!

Next time, answer objectively and stop the name calling!

Serve the purpose this forum is expected to stand for, if you can't respect your self, respect others!

How can I respect a fooool!

How can negotiating and trying to obtain a bargain or outwit a seller be termed racism?

chivaley: @OP
Have you stopped to think that many women may be unhappy as well? Fact is, for anyone regardless of gender, who is a free spirit, marriage may come across as restricting. But here's the twist, when you get married, you are saying you are ready to make the sacrifice that comes with it. You are saying that you are ready to put another person's needs and happiness ahead of yours if need be. it is the lack of this simple sacrifice/compromise that makes marriage stiffling sometimes because sacrifice and compromise will make you allow your spouse some measure of independence and freedom.

Why would you want to, and why does it make sense to, put the needs and happiness of someone else ahead of yours?

pendo89: sagamite are u anti-women?

You are negative I think you look at every woman suspiciously cz of your exp with them

If we all did that to men we would never date again.

I am not anti-women. I tend to treat people they way they deserve. Because that is the best and most rewarding way of dealing with women.

I am anti-shytheads.

Indifferent to women.

I am pro-ladies.

You can see examples of how I interact with some females on NL. There are some I consistently joke with and I have never insulted, and there are some (professional shytheads) I abhor with a passion and would have insulted several times.

I tend to think and know majority women are not very nice people. That does not mean they are evil! Very few are ladies. They are very selfish and these facts are why women tend not to like each other. I hate with a passion that concept being fed to young men to always put women on a pedestal default, and the mugus accept and even try and propagate it to get the tag "Real Man" and the accompanying pat on the back. Fck it, majority of women do not deserve it. And due to the inherent selfishness, most women would refuse to accept these facts.

Thank God I am quite good at identifying and allocating which of the 3 groups a particular woman falls in.


[quote author=Missy_B]Not true. I'm speaking for myself and the likes of me, of course.
Saga, we have enough worthless Naija men already . . .Leave the few good ones alone, and don't corrupt them.

They all don't have to be like you. **_{Hides under the pillow} **[/quote]The average woman tends to want all the rights, benefits and privileges but do not want any accountability, responsibilities and risks. They like to pass the latter group to men. And this is getting worse in the generation of "women that think they should be treated like gold for doing nothing. This treatment should happen just for being a woman". These are good, and have been successful, in training mugu men that these should be the norm and not adhering to it makes something wrong with the guy.

That is why I once famously said this:

https://www.nairaland.com/820236/what-not-after-first-date#9723514

Women don't understand the meaning of fair. Fair to them means personal advantage.

Yes, most Naija men are worthless. Maybe the women of old deserve better, but in reality such men are what majority of Naija women of today deserve. I have never seen more bunch of hopeless women in my life especially the ones in the UK. Nowadays I really hardly have empathy when I see a modern women talk of being mistreated by a man.

Men like me are icons. If men are produced like me then Baba God would have to drastically reduce the man-woman ratio and instil polygamy in the Bible. I am too mu[b]s[/b]h.

georgesylva: By default im a type of guy that would treat any lady right but if im in love, i'd treat her special.

Well, women would tend to treat guys like you as mumu and would not have the simplest contrition.

Start treating each woman the way she deserves to be treated.

Movingcoil: i don't think any1 in this world even romeo loved his gf as I loved mine but my mind took a u-turn when i noticed some things changed wer she was... So to my understanding to be loved so well by ur bf, don't change those qualities that made him love you at first instead improve on the already existing ones.

Now, georgesylva, this is a guy that is learning by experience what I just lectured you on.

I bet she took a piss on him for being too nice and he did not adjust quick enough to put her in her place.

Jukoh: The thing is that, most men are very selfish and self centered nowadays and so no matter the gestures a lady might show such guys out of her nice nature, Even when her actions are not intended for any returns of any sort, she might end up being misread by the guy. So ladies before marriage to any guy, don't be overly committed to him and no matter how filled with goodness and niceness you might be, always try to suppress some of it 'cos the truth is that a man will easily get comfortable (consciously or unconsciously)to your overly nice treatments and forget the important approaches he was suppose to take.

Go and pick up your pen and notepad and jot down 200 times the sentence:

"Women are, on average, more selfish and self centered than men", I am now aware of this.

eldee: Lool...childhood you know..trust Sagamite to make a simple relationship sound like an FBI recruitment mission.

I honestly think there's a little bit of irrationality in affection as there is with any other emotion.
Human beings can't always succeed in their efforts to be in control of everything.

Honestly, it is a mocking ridicule only the person I targeted it at can understand.

[quote author=Missy_B]A man that has never been treated right, never been taught to treat people right, and has never treated anyone right will never treat you right no matter what you do.
If you're unfortunate to find such a man, you'll spend the whole of your life trying to please him hoping someday he will change, but they never do.

He should not treat you right only after you wash, cook and die for him . . .He ought to treat you right from the start.
See how he relates to other people, see how he treats his mother/sisters, if possible see what kind of home he's from.
You can't give what you don't have.[/quote]Moral of the story: Don't go for men who you find out their real identity in a drawer in their study and who did not get love in their childhood.

pendo89: Finding it hard to digest that.We have many sheep in wolves clothing.

Normally girls, including good ones, like to pick bad boys.

They shouldn't whine when he is bad.

armyofone: sighs! can i start this argument with baba agbo today?

thinking of how to handle this cretinous quote.
i will leave you for another day, man!

BlackBaron: Always propose indoors men. Else...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFtDmtWoicY&feature=related
Rejected on live TV


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnyKkA05nYw
Poor guy

Which kin poor guys?

They deserved what they got.

armyofone: says who? what is she?
pop in to clean his house? is she his housemaid, cleaning maid, custodial worker?
is he going to do the same at her house?
when you are not married yet, biko careful what you do for 'him'
married, okay. not married, eh puhlease

abeg, a real man will still love a lady even if she doesn't do those things you listed.

true thing is Naija men will love you if you have kudi fala fala.

You are a Arrow!

So you have to be his housemaid, cleaning maid, custodial worker blah blah blah before you do all those?

But you expect him to pay when you go on dates? Because he is your caretaker?

You expect him to come and pick you up from the station if you feel it is unsafe? Because he is your bodygaurd?

You expect him to do something romantic for valentine's day? Because he is your father xmas?

You expect him to take your womanly irrational BS? Because he is your psychiatrist?

davidylan: Treat a man like a king (i.e. give him his respect as the man in your relationship), shower him with attention (dont suffocate him though), show that you care in the little ways (the occassional card to say you love him, popping over once in a while to fix a meal, give him a massage or clean his house)...

A REAL man will love such a woman and treat her like precious gold.

You forgot to add at the end: ....if she is attractive and he is attracted to her.

There are few things more disheartening for some not attractive girl to think personality alone will get her a man like me.

pendo89: In response to the thread 'How to make a man worship you,one man replied and said

If u like treat me like a king,like ur boss or ur best friend if I don't wanna be nice ,there is nothing u can do to change me.but if I am in luv,I will even lick ur feet to make u happy .its beta to be in a relationship with a guy dat trully luvs u

It sent ,me thinking. What would really make a man adore and treat you right?
Some men no matter what you do for them will treat you like trash.
Others will treat you right regardless.

which between love and actions carries most weight?

I treat ladies like ladies.

I treat women like women.

I treat shytheads like shytheads.

All that is in decreasing order of niceness and class.

Ladies are lovely people and I treat them with love.

Women are selfish people and I treat them with the best of my selfishness and indifference.

Shytheads are .....well...... shytheads. Treat them like worthless dogs.

If you are a lady and you are a nice person but yet a man treats you badly, it is your fault, you made the choice. YOU picked him.

chucky234: Guy you are the retarded here,the information says a lot less that 4m pounds. Jordan Hendersen was signed from Sunderland for 20m pounds by Liverpool and I think Moses has been a far better player than Jordan in the last few seasons. For a player who is playing football with his real age and highly talented,Moses is worth more than 10m pounds that's if you know how talented Victor is.
Manchester City was in pole position to sign him from Crystal Palace in 2010 before the agent piched tent with Wigan so he can develop his game at Wigan before moving to a bigger club.

That figure was not there when I initially read the post. This is confirmed by executinal's question above which was the moment I read it. It seems the article was updated. Even clicking on the source link, it seems they have even updated and changed the story further.