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Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Preachers Avoid Songs Of Solomon? by saintneo(m): 1:03pm On Jun 29, 2014
Idrismusty97: In essence you are saying Solomon didn't break the law of Fornication. It is very Ok for Christians to have intercourse with someone they are engage to or someone they wish to marry. No wonder all i see in movies and musics is sex, no wonder teenagers and single people are openly narrating their sex experience in the romance section and still called themselves Christians without shame. Since fornication is no longer a sin it should be scrapped out of the bible then. After all man can modify the Bible as he pleases. Catholics has theirs anyway...Is this what you are trying to say?
I believe that you've got my point. Fornication and adultery are not the same.

Now time to delve into the fornication topic. First, the world is filled with wickedness and deceit. Second we are in the New testament which is governed by the two commandments of love.

If you love your neighbour, you will not go around sampling different people not that I am encouraging people to have sex before marriage. Men engage in sex these days to satisfy their loins that's selfishness and it is against the law of loving your neighbour as yourself. If the boy were to find himself in the girl's shoes, I doubt if he will part with his priced asset, thus men/boys that engaging in sexual activities so as to satisfy their sexual urge are not loving their neighbour as themselves.(I'm a witness to this it is very sickening to the soul). Women/girls who engage in such fail the second New commandment as well.

The next question going through your mind will be that so far there is agreement between both parties then it is not a sin.......No it is a sin. Your body belongs to God, any attempt to give it to the devil makes you guilty of the first New commandment, Love God.


Without much ado, songs of Solomon is meant to be used by married couples.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Preachers Avoid Songs Of Solomon? by saintneo(m): 11:18am On Jun 29, 2014
Idrismusty97: You have completely deflected from the topic. Weren't you once speaking about the 7th commandments(Adultery) so i gave you examples on how Solomon broke it. Solomon has more concubines than wives and according to the Hebrew definition of concubines it means he have sex all of them(Or most of them). They are not his wives, isn't that what adultery is? Sex isn't evil, nobody is saying it is evil. That doesn't means you can jump in bed with anything you see in skirts.
I agree I deflected a bit. Solomon didn't break the law. The wikipedia page referenced stated that the only difference between a wife and concubine is dowry(marriage contract). Adultery is sleeping with a married woman(that is not your wife), it is not sleeping with another woman(an unmarried woman).
SportsRe: GEJ To Go Watch Super Eagles In Brazil If They Make It To Quarter-final by saintneo(m): 10:51am On Jun 29, 2014
I just hope bokoharam doesn't strike.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Preachers Avoid Songs Of Solomon? by saintneo(m): 10:49am On Jun 29, 2014
Idrismusty97: Do you know the Bible was originally in Hebrew before King James translated it to English. The Hebrew word for concubine is Pilegesh(פילגש) which means a woman staying in the house often for the purpose of
producing offspring, she is not a wife. Do you know Abraham maidservant Hagar is a pilegesh(Concubine)


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilegesh

Don't this tells you something about the 7th and 9th commandments?
Dude, you argument is not pinpointing at anything. Those commandments stated; thou shall not commit adultery, thou shall covet your neighbours wife. Did Solomon sleep with another man's wife? Did Solomon wish to have another man's wife? The answer to both questions is NO. Solomon had wisdom, there was no way he would fault the ten commandments.

Now let us reference other bible characters, Judah/Tamar, Obed/Ruth and David/Bethsheba.

Judah's son got married to Tamar, the son angered God and his life was terminated, the second son took over but spilled his semen on the floor refusing to impregnate Tamar and God killed him too. Judah decided to hide his third son so as to prevent death from coming to him. Tamar having the right to have family, disguised herself and got impregnated by her father-in-law Judah. Judah had to accept her as a concubine/wife and prevent her from being stoned to death.

Ruth after losing her husband, she travelled back with her mother-in-law to Israel. She made herself available for Obed literally and she became the grandmother of David.

David first violated the ninth commandment by coveting Bethsheba, then the seventh commandment by sleeping with her despite knowing that she was married to Uriah and finally the sixth commandment by sending Uriah to his death in the battle field. But because of the love between David and God, he was forgiven; he is the man most loved by God not because he kept the commandments but because his relationship with God was more important to him than earthly survival.

Sex is not evil, we need to understand the right perspective about sex. If we do, we will understand Songs of Solomon.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Preachers Avoid Songs Of Solomon? by saintneo(m): 10:11am On Jun 29, 2014
Idrismusty97: Oxford Advanced learner's dictionary
con•cu•bine
BrE /'kɒŋkjubaɪn /
NAmE /'kɑːŋkjubaɪn /
Definition-(especially in some societies in the past) a woman who lives with a man, often in addition to his wife or wives, but who is less important than they are.
Your definition still killed it. Bianca Ojukwu lived with Dim Chukwuemeka Ojukwu against her family's wish for many years, can we say that Bianca was Ojukwu's concubine? Let's get it right, non of the 'concubines' were married to another man, consequently, Solomon never violated the seventh or ninth commandment.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Preachers Avoid Songs Of Solomon? by saintneo(m): 9:56am On Jun 29, 2014
Idrismusty97: Yep. and Solomon has more than 800 concubines and how many wifes? undecided
Yes, Solomon had many wives as well as concubines. The 10 commandments didn't stop him from marrying many wives neither did it stop him from having concubines. The seventh commandment stated, "Thou shall not commit adultery"; I don't see anywhere Solomon committed adultery, concubines could be women whom their husbands were dead or girls seeking to be part of Solomon's Harlem.

BTW, the afore mentioned deeds of Solomon were part of the old testament. In the new testament, we have only two commandments. 1. Love God and 2. Love your neighbour. Both are based on love, if you let love lead, you will understand that Songs of Solomon is meant to be shared by a married couple.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Preachers Avoid Songs Of Solomon? by saintneo(m): 9:28am On Jun 29, 2014
Songs of Solomon is meant for married couples I guess. This book, I believe is meant to keep the attraction between a husband and wife.
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs France Prediction by saintneo(m): 9:18am On Jun 29, 2014
[quote author=colo$$u$]I never made an error bro. The person I countered saw the joke in my comment. You can read my other comments and see what you just explained[/quote]ok
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs France Prediction by saintneo(m): 9:40pm On Jun 28, 2014
[quote author=colo$$u$]Are you serious shocked[/quote]back at you!


flavour and flavor are the same ..... British and American English........special ingredient

favour and favor are the same .... British and American English........assistance


your mistake is that you made an error while correcting some other person
SportsRe: Super Eagles: The Insult Is Beyond Belief by saintneo(m): 6:07pm On Jun 28, 2014
Just watching......until super eagles eliminate le Coq and manchshaft.
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs France Prediction by saintneo(m): 1:08pm On Jun 28, 2014
[quote author=colo$$u$]It's flavour not favor angry[/quote]Very funny that you can't differentiate between 1 & 2
1. flavour and flavor
2. favour and favor
Nairaland GeneralRe: Admin And Moderators Please Respond by saintneo(op): 7:49pm On Jun 27, 2014
this is serious mate.

a thread I created today. I pointed at the possible reasons why Nairaland.com went down and the thread is nowhere to be seen.

creating a New thread is meaningless because it will be deleted.




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1. Cramjones! He is my prime suspect.
Currently, I noticed that most of the topics that existed
during the read-only mode were created in January
2014 or earlier. Cramjones became very popular
around this period. Thus, in other to erase all quotes on
Cramjones especially after the FFK-swap-gate, Nairaland
needed to be choke-slammed.
2. APC! Yes APC! After woefully losing the Ekiti
gubernatorial elections, the internet was buzzing about
the flawless victory of PDP; because most of APC
medium for outreach is via the internet, Nairaland
needed to be rock-bottomed.
3. Bosnia-Herzegovina, having lost to Nigeria: they had
to retaliate by ramming Nairaland until it derailed.
4. England! Having exited the world cup, England
couldn't believe Nigeria was hanging on; thus they sent
some virus to the Nairaland host....cloudfare ...lol!
5. more to come ....
Nairaland GeneralAdmin And Moderators Please Respond by saintneo(op): 7:35pm On Jun 27, 2014
Why was the thread I created in the politics section hidden or removed? Other users created similar thread but theirs are running LIVE on the politics section.

I believe I didn't violate any of the rules.

I have come to believe that my post is pointing precisely to the reason why Nairaland.com went down recently.

Seun, ngwakwe, mynd44, Afameva, OM4J, mukina2 kindly respond.
SportsRe: Has Michael Babatunde Justified His Inclusion In Nigeria's Squad? by saintneo(m): 5:06pm On Jun 27, 2014
Oui!
PoliticsRe: APC Thugs Brutalise Journalists, Residents In Ogun by saintneo(m): 7:12am On Jan 10, 2014
bunch of hoodlums
PoliticsRe: Bloodbath~build Up To The Violent Attack In Ogun State,facts Behind The Scene by saintneo(m): 7:11am On Jan 10, 2014
Criminals
Foreign AffairsRe: Woman Sentenced To 38 Years Imprisonment For Sleeping With Her Student by saintneo(m): 7:02pm On Jan 09, 2014
I knew he was joking. But we should be aware that jokes do have limits......classic example is the Basketmouth rape joke.
Foreign AffairsRe: Woman Sentenced To 38 Years Imprisonment For Sleeping With Her Student by saintneo(m): 6:18pm On Jan 09, 2014
Seun: Ethel Anderson's case is different. She molested a kid while being black and overweight. That's simply unacceptable. The other teacher was hot.
This is not expected of you.
PoliticsRe: A Brief Explanaition Of My Money Laundering Allegation - Femi Fani-kayode by saintneo(m):
Chai!

You laundered your money, nna make una see craze raised to power infinity.

Why would someone launder his money?

According to the definition by thefreedicitionary.com & wikipedia.com respectively:

Launder: 2 To disguise the source or nature of (illegal funds, for example) by channeling through an intermediate agent. ..... thefreedicitionary.com

Money laundering is the process of concealing sources of money. Money evidently gained through crime is "dirty"
money, and money that has been "laundered" to appear as if it came from a legitimate source is "clean" money. Money can be laundered by many methods, which vary in complexity and sophistication. ........ wikipedia.com



FFK, you keep nailing your coffin with every word you scribe or spit on the internet.

How much ill gotten money do you have in you possession? What are the sources of your ill gotten money? Who initiated you into money Laundering? Who are your agents?

Your time will come.



Just before this post is edited I need to quote you.
cramjones: All charges on the 19.5 billion naira Aviation Intervention Fund which were filed against me in July 2008 were dropped two months later for want of evidence and when the EFCC discovered that not only was I the one that exposed, investigated and reported the crime to President Obasanjo and the security agencies but also that the crime took place a few months before I was redeployed to Aviation. It is my predecessor in office, Professor Babalola Borisade, that is facing charges on the 19.5 billion naira Aviation Fund and not me and he has been doing so since 2008. My issue with the EFCC has nothing to do with the Aviation Intervention Fund or the stealing of public funds. No money has been reported as being missing under my watch and neither has there been any allegation of theft or misappropiation of one kobo.
I have been charged with laundering my own money and as u should know that is not an offence and neither can it be proved as being one in any court of law. That explains why the EFCC have had such a hard time proving its case in 5 years and why they keep running from court or trying to change the judge. Next time u want to point accusing fingers at me and tell me that I should not throw stones at others do ur homework properly and get ur facts. You are the only one that does not seem to know that the charges against me were malicious, bogus and politically motivated and it was just a desperate attempt to intimidate and silence me. It has not worked and it can never work. For the last few years my innocence has spoken for me and it will continue to do so. Better still every single one of those that were involved in this evil plan to destroy me and ruin my name and career has come to a bad end. - Chief Femi Fani-Kayode
PoliticsRe: Norwegians Are Now Millionaires Based On Investment Of Oil Earnings. by saintneo(m): 5:53pm On Jan 09, 2014
I wonder if Norway ever borrows from the big institutions like World Bank, IMF or EU Central Bank.

Over here in Nigeria our politicians are changing party and calling the president incompetent because of low allocations from FG.
PoliticsRe: Amaechi Is Gay! : 8) by saintneo(op):
don't be offended nairalanders, just want know how distorted propagation of information can attract people.
PoliticsRe: os by saintneo(m): 12:45pm On Jan 09, 2014
The immediate past Governor, Dr Peter Odili is from Andoni; am I right? Thus, Andoni can't be Ijoid.
PoliticsAmaechi Is Gay! : 8) by saintneo(op): 12:25pm On Jan 09, 2014
uups!

http://m.espn.go.com/soccer/story?storyId=1675167&section=soccernetfrontpage&top&wjb=


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Amaechi: FIFA is failing gay players[/size]

ESPN staff
January 9, 2014
Former NBA star John Amaechi believes football
has a “toxic” approach towards homosexuality and
claims FIFA are not doing enough to help gay
players in the wake of Thomas Hitzlsperger
becoming the most high-profile footballer to come
out.
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type:image
caption:Former Utah Jazz power forward John
Amaechi became the first openly gay NBA player in
2007.
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• FA resignation over gay slur
Hitzlsperger, 31, revealed his sexuality in an
interview with German newspaper Die Zeit on
Wednesday, becoming only the fourth professional
footballer to do so after former Norwich forward
Justin Fashanu, Swedish lower league player Anton
Hysen and Los Angeles Galaxy midfielder Robbie
Rogers.
Amaechi made headlines the world over when he
became the first openly gay NBA player in 2007
and he feels that football, like many sports, has a
poisonous attitude toward homosexuality.
“It isn't a big deal for an awful lot of people, but
within sport there is still a problem,” Amaechi said
to BBC Sport. "The real problem, especially with
football, is that it has never evaluated itself
properly. The sport has never understood just how
toxic it is.
“Football is toxic and not just for gay people -- it's
toxic for Asians who want to play the game, it's
toxic for women who want to be executives, it's
toxic for black people who want to do anything
but play. It's toxic in many different ways, but
football doesn't see itself like that.
“It sees itself as this amazing, wonderful, bold and
progressive organisation. As an analogy, it is the
fat bloke who looks at himself in the mirror and
beaming back at him is an Adonis. It's a self-image
that bears no resemblance on reality.
“Footballers coming out at the highest level will
happen only as the product of a cultural change
within the game. It will not be the precursor to
cultural change in football. If you want to see
people being who they are, coming out and playing
at their very best because they're able to be who
they are, then the culture of football must change
first.”
Amaechi pointed the finger directly at FIFA,
accusing world football’s governing body of being
run by “neanderthals” and criticising the
organisation for failing to combat homophobia or
provide adequate support for gay players.
"I think it is a good thing Hitzlsperger has done,
he is held in positive regard as a role model,”
Amaechi told the Mirror. "The truth is the people
who run football are the ones creating this
environment. The fans follow the implicit lack of
breadth when it comes to issues of difference from
the top.
"[FIFA president Sepp] Blatter couldn't have a job
anywhere else. In an equivalent corporate
environment he would be out in a day.
Neanderthals seem to be only able to hang on to
power in sport. They could sort it out in two years,
but it is way behind.
"It takes actions, not just pretty posters. Until they
stab in the heart the ignorance, mythology and
nonsense which is around bigotry then nothing will
change. They are loath to do that, because it will
involve some self-examination [which] they are not
comfortable with. They refuse to hire people who
will educate and challenge them."
Hitzlsperger decision to publicly reveal his
sexuality has been hailed by figures in the football
world and beyond, with his former Stuttgart
teammate Timo Hildebrand, now of Schalke, saying
on Facebook: “My deepest respect, Hitze. Very
courageous!”
Elsewhere, the spokesman for German Chancellor
Angela Merkel said: “We live in a country where
nobody should be afraid of acknowledging their
sexuality for fear of intolerance. And I think that as
a country, as a society, we've made enormous
progress in this area. We judge footballers by
whether they conduct themselves well and with
dignity on and off the pitch, and I believe both are
true for Mr. Hitzlsperger."
Art, Graphics & VideoRe: My Life As An Artist by saintneo(m): 8:47am On Jan 09, 2014
some of these pictures depict anger. I even noticed one that looks like a sexual scene.

benJAVA hope you inspiration does not come from anger.
FamilyRe: 10 Weird Pregnancy Facts No One Tells You About by saintneo(m): 7:06pm On Jan 08, 2014
Don't believe no2
Jokes EtcRe: Best Manchester United Jokes.. (pictures) by saintneo(m): 4:25pm On Jan 08, 2014
Tolexander: [size=16pt]1-2, 1-2, 2-1![/size]

[size=28pt] This is a very bad period to 1-2 be a United fan[/size]
PoliticsRe: Stella Oduah's Profile On Wikipedia Wasnt Edited - Findings by saintneo(m): 10:09am On Jan 08, 2014
[size=18pt]I love the forensic analysis of the dubious edits that occurred on wikipedia yesterday and today just to sell the negative stories about the aviation minister. Those idiots never knew that there will be trails and fingerprints left on wikipedia; most of all, they thought we are that stupid to believe every nonsense on the web.


Shame on sahara reporters!
Shame on the axis of evil in Nigeria!
Shame on the losers in the aviation industry!
Shame on the people who had in the past milked the aviation industry to the fullest!
Shame on enemies of progress!
Shame on FFK!
Shame on all idiots that reproduced this fake story!




The TRUTH is never clothed, it is naked.
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RomanceRe: Help Guys Am Having A Hard - On While Speaking To My Gf by saintneo(m): 9:31am On Jan 08, 2014
nonsovich: Guys pls I need ur advice on this case....there's this particular girl I started dating nt long ago....I haven't done anything sexual with her....infact the highest I ve done wit her is just kissing but I noticed that each time am talking to her on phone I always have a hard on...no insult pls!
Does it happen to when you speak to this girl only or does it happen with other girls as well? If it's only the girl, then you don't need to be worried; else you need to rearrange your priorities with respect to the opposite sex.
RomanceRe: His Girlfriend Is Spending Her First Weekend With Him......... He Needs Advice. by saintneo(m): 8:36pm On Jan 07, 2014
[quote author=Arsenal-Guy]Hello friends, i met this gal in 2012 when i was serving, we got talking and became gud friends. To summarize the whole story, we became very close to the point that i asked her out last year( though on phone chat since we've not seen each other after our POP), she agreed and has promised to visit and spend this weekend with me. I truly love her and wudnt mind spending my life with her. I need advice on what to and what not to do and say as this wud determine the future and lifespan of the relationship. Ur advice will be appreciated esp from the gals in the house.[/quote]No trophy for you mate. Just pass ball around and no attempt on goal.


arsenalguy in bedroom.....lol

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