₦airaland Forum

Well deserved. Girl deserves to win.

She's beautiful in its entirety

membranus:
Bros you no nada.

You are just forming on NL.

Gerrout hea!!!

. So enthusing

shadeyinka:
You too. I hope another strike won't start because of this o. It's the usual thing even in the Nigerian medical world. Doctors will finish negotiations, get some things from the FG only for the nurses, pharmacists and the likes to embark on their own fresh clamour.

It seems the FG is always short sighted when solving problems.

Of a truth, the FG has gained NOTHING from these negotiations as usual. Instead of coming to the table to look at what the nation can benefit from the Universities, they are only focused on REDUCING the amount demanded. A very poor strategy Indeed

I quite agree. A holistic resolution of the niggling issues that preempt these agitations is more than ever before, needed

shadeyinka:
EAA should on strict basis concern only Lecturers and Technologists in the University.
The EAA form consist of things like, number of students taught, project students at B.Sc, M.Sc and Ph.D, number of scripts per subject etc as what is used to compute the Earned Academic Allowance.

The issue is that for this particular strike, ASUU negotiated only for ASUU members and they made it clear to the minister. It was expected that the FG would take care of their responsibilities to the other arms of the Universities.

I honestly wish that ASUU, SSANU and NASU will always cooperate with respect to their dealings with the FG but alas, this doesn't happen. For example, SSANU and NASU shouldn't have accepted to be on IPPIS with ASUU: but because issues like sabbatical, postdoc, Adjunts, etc doesn't affect them. On this basis, ASUU negotiated ONLY for themselves.

The question is, suppose FG proscribed ASUU and forced them into the classroom with NOTHING, would the argument of not being paid EAA come up?


Now, to your question:
I will welcome any increase to my pay without asking any question. Even if FG pay me out of the EAA of ASUU, I wouldn't complain.
What of if the FG didn't pay me the EAA? My union didn't negotiate for it so what is my problem.

SSANU should remind the FG that they are part of the EAA and should not be forgotten. ASUU didn't fight on EAA for every union in the Universities, they fought only for ASUU and made it very clear. I wish SSANU had immediately spoken to the Minister of Labour that they should ALSO pay their own too.

Well, I think we have over laboured this issue.

Bottom line is that all the unions in the universities will rightly partake in this 40B released. The percentage of sharing won't be 80-20 either. Take it to the bank!

It was nice having your thoughts. I appreciate your capacity. Have a beautiful evening

People really ball hard this year o. Sometimes the sweetest time comes after an unpleasant situation

Oluwa, make e reach my side. Amin

Fabregas1109:
Comrades please relax Tinini Tanana piko piko November Alert will drop today the[b] ippis staff have been extremely busy working on arrears[/b] , others please understand with them they have to clear everything before the year runs out..... already as I am talking to you some teaching hospitals have started receiving alerts....

How true is this information?

bahaushe1:
I am an academic staff of a federal university. Both FGN/ASUU and FGN/SSANU 2009 agreements have EARNED ALLOWANCE components. That of ASUU is EARNED ACADEMIC ALLOWANCE while that of SSANU is EARNED ALLOWANCE. Find time and read the two agreements.

FGN is common to the two agreements and therefore government generally calls it EARNED ALLOWANCE.

The first payment was a 30bn released in 2013 after an ASUU strike. The second payment was a ?25bn released in 2017. The third payment was a 25bn released in 2019. All the three payments fought for by ASUU were shared with non-teaching staff. Between, the non-teaching staff got about 6 or 8bn which was shared by their members only.

The current payment is based on the forensic audit report of 2018 which includes ALL unions in the universities.

The report puts the total earned allowance claim for the period of 2009 - 2016 for ALL unions at 160bn. Out of this amount government has paid 80bn as at 2019. The remaining 80bn was spread into 4 instalmental payments of 20bn each to be paid on 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

The current 40bn is is made up of 2 instalmental payments for 2019 and 2020. Both tranches have claims of non-teaching staff incorporated.

The point of contention is not whether or not they have a share but whether is 20% that is traditionally allocated to them is FAIR. My take is that it is fair and if they feel otherwise they should interrogate the audit report and prove us wrong.

The big question you either missed or consciously ignored is... Who allocated the 20%? Did the sharing of the EA in 2019 go through the right channel of disbursement which is the university governing council?

I await you response

bigAG:
EAA is Earned ACADEMIC allowance
ASUU is academic staff union
NASU is non academic staff union

Hope its clear now

I can't be repeating myself. Do scroll up and see the education I have given on this. Peace!

Chibueze90:
So what is acceptable if I may ask you?

Whatever the university governing council decides as my employer. Not what a colleague of mine feel that I deserve. Like, what effrontery!

shadeyinka:
But the issue is that ASUU fought for this EA for academic staff and they made it clear in their negotiations with the FG. What if ASUU had failed, would SSANU have done. SSANU accepted to join IPPIS, left ASUU to slug it out for almost 8months of no salary....to me, it doesn't make sense. They should negotiate with their caring and responsible FG!

You still don't get it, do you?

There shouldn't be any negotiations. There's an agreement by the unions for earned allowances to be paid in intervals. There's an agreement!!

Let me ask you, if before end of this year you received minimum wage arrears, what will you say?

Let me even see if I'm arguing with an individual with a spirit of sincerity in him

bahaushe1:
It is either you did not read my post or you are deliberately twisting my points.

No where did I say or imply that non-teaching staff does 'nothing'. What I said is that their earned allowance claim will generally be low compared to that of academic staff because of job description of the parties.

If you deserve more than 20% then prove it; it is 'earned'.

You don't need to prove anything. Your employer knows what you have contributed to the system. Nobody is talking about pay parity. That's not the point. Fill your form and give to your employer while I do the same. Let our employers determine the veracity of our claims. You can't tell our employers how much I deserve to earn using the lens of your own KPI to look at mine. It doesn't work that way.

bahaushe1:
I am surprised you view 'prove it' as corruption. How else do you want to get money that is suppose to be 'earned'?

No one gets earned allowance without proving it. We all have filled the forms.

Even among ASUU members not every person will get it. Many people will not get it. Some federal universities will not get anything because they did not exist as at 2016.

We also filled forms for EA. Tabulating where I have faced hazards in the course of my work, numerous shifts done, etc. And we both know that the employer of all staff in the university is the governing council. Allow the university governing council to determine who deserves what and how much. Do you still have to know what you are to be paid more than your employer?

membranus:
Meaning what?

Pls educate Mr. Expert.

I am curious to learn.

I'm ready to help but the tone must be right. Correct the tone and I may oblige to educating you

jmaine:
What stops SSANU from fighting for theirs? Must they always piggyback on ASUU struggles.. Moreover, what ASUU fought for was Earned Academic Allowance (EAA)...

The same SSANU that can't fight for her members minimum wage arrears are here acting all tough..

If you consider fighting for your rights as a sin, then it says a lot about the membership of SSANU, whose leaders are not accountable to their members.

Lolz. I was expecting your argument jmaine. How are you? It's been a while.

To the point...

You're also entitled to minimum wage arrears o. SSANU is fighting for minimum wage arrears while ASUU is also fighting for earned allowances. Both went on strike, and got promises from FG. Both, haven't received a dime yet. When FG fulfill the promises, both unions will benefit from both struggles. BOTH!

If earned allowances come, teaching and non teaching staff will both receive it. Same as minimum wage arrears.

We need to remove this friction seriously. It will only make friends to become foes and the students ultimately suffers

Nwadiuto247:
It is called Earned Academic Allowance [EAA)

SSANU created their own as Earned Allowance.

ASUU goes all the way to negotiate their own,. After all the suffering, SSANU will want it to be shared.

If you think what SSANU is doing is good then let somebody struggle to share your hard earned harvest with you

Wrong deduction.

FG has already cleared the air that the money released is for all the unions earned allowances whether academic or administrative earned allowance. All the unions have their agreement with government. In a sane clime, nobody is even supposed to talk about about earned allowances as it's an agreement between the unions and FG and should be paid without any noise.

There's a negotiation to include earned allowances in staff salaries, if it goes through, will there be these wranglings?

We don't need this friction. Both unions are supposed to work hand on hand. Neither can function properly without the other

shadeyinka:
Lecturers don't only teach/work till 6pm
They take scripts home for marking
They read voluminous texts in the name of projects
They stay over to also conduct their research work.


Others staff don't take office work home
They don't take books home to read
They don't supervise students work



And you say they should earn the same EA?

Nobody is saying, earn the same thing. After all, Conuass is higher than contiss but a situation where teaching staff collect 80% of EA is unacceptable. Let the university governing council, who is your employer determine who earns what, and how.

membranus:
It is Earned Academic Allowance EAA, not Earned Allowance.

Pls be guided.

There's something very pitiable about someone who claims to be all knowing but ends up showing so much ignorance.

Peace brother

Olude193:
And once 3:55pm nack, their bags are ready.. the ones who will join bodies to transport them they will have confirmed movement

4:00pm they zoom out.. as in they will never stay a second more. If money no dey involved they won't wait a fraction of a second more..

Maybe the ones working for principal officers are more coordinated..

but the rest mistake especially the NASU lower cadres....

You practically have to beg them if you want to do anything in the departmental office as an academic staff...

Very lazy

Why are you crying brother? I see so much hate here. Receive peace

mvem:
it is called EAA. Earned Academic Allowances. SSANU/NASU members are not academics staff...these allowances are for excess academic workload, and other academic duties by academics staffs...so what is SSANU actually saying. They should give them academic allowances when they are non- teaching staff

Either you're playing to the gallery or you're ignorant of the happenstances in the university system.

A little education, should I?

There are 4 unions in the university and each had a 2009 agreement for earned allowances (which ASUU christened EAA). Government has released money for the accumulated earned allowances to be paid to all the unions. And you think that one union should have the bulk of it?

Allow the university governing council which is the employer of all staff in the university to determine who gets what, when and how. Is that what ASUU has been fighting for? University autonomy! How can you now usurp the university governing council to received EA through NUC?

The biggest personal deceit you all are doing yourself is thinking that non teaching staff do nothing. Anyways, the leadership SSANU has now isn't like the old ones. Let the money be paid first and we see how it's done.

bahaushe1:
You have some points there. But the money is 'earned'. They should present evidence that they have earned it rather come to the media to seek for public sympathy.

One of the major component of earned allowance is 'excess workload allowance'. Everything concerning teaching in federal universities is governed by NUC regulations. An academic staff is expected to have a certain contact hour per week. A class is expected to have a certain number of students depending on the programme. An academic staff is also expected to mark a certain number of scripts per semester. We all know these regulations are not strictly adhered to by our universities. So, an academic staff will naturally accumulate these allowances over a period of time.

For non-teaching staff, they are like mainstream civil service expect for academic technologists. They are employed to work 8am to 4pm. Most of the NUC regulations does not apply to them. And remember for every 3 academic staff there should be 1 non-teaching staff. I am sure you and I know that this is not what is obtainable in our universities.

Based on above factors their earned allowances will generally be low compared to academic staff because of the parameters used in computing the allowances.

The 20% being given to them is generous. They should provide empirical evidence with necessary data if they feel they are cheated not mare media propaganda.

bahaushe1:
You are right it is 'earned allowance'. So let them go and prove that they have 'earned' it rather than come to the media. It is not the public that shares the money.

Wonderful. Truly, we're all corrupt in this country.

Anyways, no need fighting online. The real fight comes soon

A man earning 40k should beso concerned about finding alternative source of income for himself.

Well, what do I know

A 40k salary earner thinking of opening a shop for a girl he's not married to.

Truly, dem dey born maga everyday aswear. No wonder yahoo boys dey cash out on a steady

hupo:
Its is Earned Academic Allownce (EAA). So I wonder why SSANU members see themselves as Academic Staff. Monkey work baboon want chop. Not anymore!

Shows your shallowness.

It is called earned allowances and each of the unions in the university is entitled to it. Each has a 2009 agreement with FG concerning it

Truth be told, how can earned allowance that is the right of all staff in the university be cornered by a section of staff. Whether you are the one that attracted or not, everyone should get his due.

Ask yourself, if ASUU takes larger share of EA that every staff is entitled to, just because they made more noise about it, are they any different from the politicians they're fighting?

Oga, na your money bet9ja use pay me .

Don't be addicted. Daz all. I bet with what I can afford to lose

Ogharaboy:
What a game

Congrats. I dey for crumbs

tobechi20:
Guys like them short. Short girls can easily adapt to different position In bed and are easy to Cary up .

Wrong. I like them tall and slim

Imagine telling a 6:2ft guy to go with a 4ft bae. Na stress u dey stress me na

Iconstar:
Ok.If that's u at dp, then u are good to go.I've seen shorter people. I believe u are just seeking cheap attention sha that's if u are even a female.

Nah. She's short and tiny but that doesn't mean she should stress herself. Love yourself the more. No be you create yourself.

We wey tall, come huge, dey workout and diet to reduce too

SarutobiEky:
I don't give two fvxks about that bro, if she doesn't feel me, another lucky gal would, Eazy come, Eazy go. I can't be racking my brain every time for pick up lines when I am looking for creative ideas to get on that paper trail, ya feel me?

Ama feel ya bruh

Just as Lai Mohammed can never be sincere, this dude can never be humble