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Happy New Year to every fruitful mothers and fathers in the house.We thank God for the gift of life.

@Chi16,thank God for the tremendous improvement in your DH's sperm count.I am very happy for you.How do i send a mail to you.I have tried to do that on nairaland forum or is there any other way i can reach you?I am also participating for the 21days fasting and prayer as a winner family.

@Mamatriplets,keep on believing in God as you have been encouraging others.You will laugh at last.IJN.

@kemidebbie..I wish you a stressfree 9months in Jesus name.

@all,We will all testify of God's triple F(Fruitfulness,Favour and Fulfillment) this year 2013 in Jesus name.

as for me, GEJ deserve our support and therefore i rate him 69% cos there is still room for improvement. B+

@DREKO...The viewing centre at abule-egba is somewhere in captain...40,Bode Williams street,olota,captain..

@Alwaytrue,thank you very much for including my name.It gives me a lot of courage.Our heavenly father is not sleeping.I appreciate.

Camrygmail Congratulations!!!! @MamaTriplet,I tap into that testimony yesterday.I just wish i can meet that man in person since i happen to be going through the same challenge.The testimony increase my hope of fathering a child.God has answered our prayers.More testimony is coming this month.IJN

@Fruitful..A very big congratulations to you and your DH.My heart is full of Joy believing that my own miracle has come.Wish every expectant mothers the same.

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@zenoj,i will need the phone number too.... I am now addicted to this forum.Your encouraging comments calms my spirit.

I need 70-240 Windows server 2008,Active directory,configuring.

Thanks

Hope it is not a contract staff job?

my DH count is azoospermia(zero count). by grace of God we ar able to improved it to 10000 count and he is sti on medication for beta result. any advice and suggestion is welcome.tnx


Good News!!!!
Please,How were you and DH able to improve it?I am facing similar challenge.Your advice could be of help added to other advice that have been given here.
Thanks.

@omonikiba,Amen!!!! Thank you and God bless you for this wonderful revelation.i have tried to introduce my wife a number of times to this wonderful thread.Recently,we have been placed on 14 days non-stop prayers(3hrs every midnight) with 14 apples to be eaten after the prayers then we *****immediately we finish eating the fruit.I know it will be stressful couple with the days work stress.The woman of God warn that there should not be any excuse of tiredness,quarelling of any kind.In terms of giving,it has always been a part of me.I give with pleasure to the expectant mothers,children whether in the bus,church etc.I believe God have answered our prayers miraculously in this thread.We shall not cast our young in Jesus name.

I am interested but presently working.Is there no time for a working class person?

@Beetleand fruit-full,amen to your prayers.My spirit is lifted.i haven't seen any urologist yet.Though,i met a doctor that want me to do testicular biopsy(N45,000) before any other thing.I just need to be guided by those that have gone through this.Your advice is very much appreciated.

@Alwaystrue..You are all wonderful.God is really using everyone of you to give hope to the hopeless.I am happy to have come across this forum/thread.I call it SOLUTION CENTER.May God grant our heart desires.

Heyyy

@Mama triplets,i am over happy for you and your husband.God has done it for you already.I understand how you are feeling right now because i am going through the same struggle your husband went through.I did post something on this thread some weeks back that has to do with doctors diagnosing that i have zero sperm count(azoospermia).I have done sperm analysis with the result showing virtually everything dead.I just did the hormone assay analysis and the result is LH:10.2(normal), FSH:13.8(High), Prolactin:4.4(normal), Testosterone:5.0(Low).We have been praying steadfastly and ceaselessly to God and i have been taking fruits like water-melon,cashewnut and groundnut,cucumber,banana,pawpaw,pineapple,orange,vegetable(ugu),eggs,Vitamin E,C but not consistently.After reading your wonderful and spirit-lifting testimony,i have decided to follow your step by eating more of fruits.Please,i will like to know your gynae/urologist.

@ACM10

Sp.erm analysis on its own is insufficient reason to order for a testicular biopsy. There must be hormone analysis.
I will tell you why this is important. There are 2 important areas in the production of male sex hormones in the body. They are the brain(hypothalamus and pituitary gland) and the testis. Hypothalamus produces the gonadotrophin releasing hormones(GnRH) which stimulates the pituitary gland to produce follicle stimulating hormones(FSH) and luteinizing hormones(LH). FSH and LH stimulates the testis. LH stimulates the Lehdig cells which produces testosterone, while FSH stimulates the Nurse cells which provides spermatozoa and substances that nourishes the sp.erm cells. So, it flows like this:

GnRH--->FSH & LH--->Testosterone

The level of each hormone in the system is tightly controlled through negative feedback mechanism. Therefore when the testosterone level is low in the system, a testosterone sensor in the brain will instruct the brain to produce more of FSH and LH to stimulate the testis to function in the production of more testosterone. If the testis fails to function, the LH level will double down with in the level of LH. The process continues till infinity. Thereby overflogging the testis. There is a level that FSH and LH will attain before we can safely say that there is primary testicular failure. Then the doctor is justified to perform a testicular biopsy. It's just like flogging a dead horse. So when the sex hormone analysis demonstrates very high level of FSH and LH in the presence of very low level of testosterone indicates primary testicular failure.

Mind you that sex hormone analysis may also indicate if there is hormonal imbalance. This can be corrected and your fertility restored. Therefore, sex hormone analysis is imperative in the management of your condition.




Here is the analysis

Colour------ Greyish white
PH---------- 8.0
Viscousity----- Moderately viscous
Consistency----- Transparent
%Sluggish----- Nil
Active ----- Nil
%Dead ---- Nil
Volume --- 5mls
Motile Spermatozoa --- 0%
Spermatozoa concentration ---- Nil
Total Spermatozoa count -- Nil
Mean Progressive Mobility -- NIL

Thanks a lot.




@ACM10... I have gone for the test and here is the result

Investigation Result Normal Value Remarks
LH 10.2 1-11miU/ml NORMAL
FSH 13.8 2-12miU/ml HIGH
Prolactin 4.4 1.0-7.5miU/l NORMAL
Testosterone 5.0 6.4-31.6nmol/l LOW

comments: High FSH level : Low progesterone concentration.

@ACM10

Sp.erm analysis on its own is insufficient reason to order for a testicular biopsy. There must be hormone analysis.
I will tell you why this is important. There are 2 important areas in the production of male sex hormones in the body. They are the brain(hypothalamus and pituitary gland) and the testis. Hypothalamus produces the gonadotrophin releasing hormones(GnRH) which stimulates the pituitary gland to produce follicle stimulating hormones(FSH) and luteinizing hormones(LH). FSH and LH stimulates the testis. LH stimulates the Lehdig cells which produces testosterone, while FSH stimulates the Nurse cells which provides spermatozoa and substances that nourishes the sp.erm cells. So, it flows like this:

GnRH--->FSH & LH--->Testosterone

The level of each hormone in the system is tightly controlled through negative feedback mechanism. Therefore when the testosterone level is low in the system, a testosterone sensor in the brain will instruct the brain to produce more of FSH and LH to stimulate the testis to function in the production of more testosterone. If the testis fails to function, the LH level will double down with in the level of LH. The process continues till infinity. Thereby overflogging the testis. There is a level that FSH and LH will attain before we can safely say that there is primary testicular failure. Then the doctor is justified to perform a testicular biopsy. It's just like flogging a dead horse. So when the sex hormone analysis demonstrates very high level of FSH and LH in the presence of very low level of testosterone indicates primary testicular failure.

Mind you that sex hormone analysis may also indicate if there is hormonal imbalance. This can be corrected and your fertility restored. Therefore, sex hormone analysis is imperative in the management of your condition.




Here is the analysis

Colour------ Greyish white
PH---------- 8.0
Viscousity----- Moderately viscous
Consistency----- Transparent
%Sluggish----- Nil
Active ----- Nil
%Dead ---- Nil
Volume --- 5mls
Motile Spermatozoa --- 0%
Spermatozoa concentration ---- Nil
Total Spermatozoa count -- Nil
Mean Progressive Mobility -- NIL

Thanks a lot.

You should endeavour to have intercourse frequently. Especially during her ovulation period.
There must be a reason behind the request by the gynaecologist for a testicular biopsy. The most plausible reason behind this investigation is testicular failure. That is why I would want to peep into the result of the investigation for the sex hormones assay(FSH, LH and testosterone). So can you be kind enough to post them?

The history of surgery around your Instruments is very important to us because you might have had:
1. Chemical orchidectomy: Where an antibody produced against the removed testis, attacks with the viable testis. Thereby destroying its cells and rendering the non-functional, OR,
2. Vanishing testis syndrome: The operating surgeon might have mistakenly tampered with the blood supply to the viable testis. With time, the testis becomes smaller in size, then eventually becomes non-viable and forms a small ball of fibrous tissue.
Was the surgery you performed in 1983 elective or emergency?
If elective, did the surgeon request for se.men analysis prior to the surgery?

Any remote evidence to suggest primary testicular failure can prompt the doctor to request for testicular biopsy. This is the investigation of the last resort. It might interest you to know that the biopsy is not necessarily aimed at helping you. It is just to confirm the doctor's suspicion of testicular failure and for documentation.
If this is to be the case, then you may have to discuss the option of adoption with your wife.






We normally during her ovulation period but every other is optional base on when we are in the mood.The doctor didn`t do any further test after the semen analysis.I will send the datails of the test tomorrow because i dont have it here with me.I have not done the FSH,LH,Testosterone test.
I cant remember if the surgery is elective or emergency.I was 10 years old.I only know that my father took me to hospital because the balls in my scrotum normally run up to somewhere in my stomach(Cant explain it better).
I love your explanation..It has been relieving..
God bless you.

[quote author=champs]Welcome to TTC thread.Your zero fluid count might have been caused by untreated infection,excessive alcohol,drugs,Variocolle etc. But there is no need to speculate now, I will advise that you contact a good Reproductive endocrinologist as soon as possible because your options are quite limited that is IUI with donor sper.m,ICSI,TESE..... Wishing you all the best.


@Champs..I have done culture of my semen which shows that i have no infection of any kind.I have stop taking alcohol even before i got married and i have never smoke all my life.The doctor i met advice that i go for biopsy.

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Pls,Good fellow in the house.I need the material for NB test..
Thanks and God bless.

@temilolaoluwa,yomitiroro,insightful and other God-fearing fellows,i am truly impress with your post.I feel challenged.We need discussions like this in this forum.Can i get your e-mails?