₦airaland Forum

SweetPuffPuff:
[color=dodgerblue]nope. Just ignorannt of some events. The goverment and milita doh think nigeroans are stupid becsuse they think u dont see what they try and sneak an do [/color]

The truth is they know the psyche of a typical Nigerian has been reduced and value for life poorly quantified. So, while they don't think Nigerians are entirely stupid, they know the system is keeping us in check. Look at the IDP camps that was bombed. How did we react? Who was sacked? Where was the outrage? That's it.

SweetPuffPuff:
[color=deepskyblue]its laughable. The nigerian military and its Government right now.
They really do think the people are stupid[/color]

Exactly. But aren't the people stupid? I mean, the majority of us. Till this day the men of the force who shot at refugees in the a camp are walking free and nothing has been said about the matter. And we are quiet. Aren't the vast majority of Nigerians stupid on some matters?

What do you mean by free funds?

eshadiamond:
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Still apply. You have nothing to lose.

I think Seri will be the steal of the window but I don't see any serious contenders. Dude's heart is in Barca I hope it works.

The same Nigerian Army who asked residents in Jos to hide in a safehouse only for herdsmen to attack the place later with no soldier in sight. This country won't grow like this.

http://www.mortalpoet.com/who-is-sympathetic-to-fulani-herdsmen/

Jazmiynne:
As real as reality itself

Wow! Just sent you a mail now.

Jazmiynne:
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Is this for real? I don't joke when prices are involved.

bakynes:
You have more than enough energy to play with, you are just unhappy you have been defeated trying to play the victim mentality game.

The Port is a Lagos state/Private Partnership project, it has nothing to do with the FG so case closed you have been shamed and defeated in your own very game.

Lol. I agree.

Bagehot:
If we are infact being factual, Ikeja up to Ilupeju was the planned industrial hub of the western region under Awolowo. Western Region built Ikeja, not colonial masters, not FG. If you were typically buying land in V.I or Ikoyi, you would get an F.G C of O, cos of its history - not so anywhere in Ikeja.

Okay.

bakynes:
It seems this guy just likes to argue and he is hell bent on the victim mentality.

The guy you quoted was telling you there is a difference between Lagos state and Lagos the Former Federal capital. Colony of Lagos and FCT Lagos is different from Lagos State. 80% of Lagos state today was carved out from the Western region where Awolowo was premier.

Lagos State today=Part of Western region+FCT

I'm done. I don't have much energy to play with.

Omooniya1:
let ur governors initiate a project and see whether FG will not support dem......atleast federal government support Imo state governor by commissioning all the Statues he build

Smh. Petty.

obailala:
Just a piece of factual information for you, most of the irate youths who involve in those acts are just natural born criminals who arent even from oil producing or oil bearing or pipeline crossing communities. Have you heard of a local govt called Uvwie in Warri?... Uvwie has no single oil well and has no single case of oil spill or polluted land. But take a trip to Warri and go find out the kind of humans you are defending from afar.

That's bullshi't. There is nothing like Natural Born criminals. Everything is learned through sensual experience. The point is, these guys suffered an experience that warranted their new behavior. They were born in the midst of plenty but can't fathom why their place is messed up. The older ones, whose psyche the FG messed up, pass everything to the next generation and that's why we are here. These guys own the machine that run Nigeria but they can't even run those machines. Nigeria made them what they are today.

JeffreyJamez:
One question I am going to ask you is. Have you been to the SS and psychoanalyze the average youth in that region? or lets say, hold a co0nversation with one of them?.

I have and I know the things I heard. Development will NEVER come to that region with the kind of mentality they have.

Concerning the cleaning up of their lands. Whenever there is an oil spill, the clean up team gets there within 24hrs. Do you know what these youths do to these guys? They dont let them work until they have paid a certain amount of money. These are people that want to help you clean up your land! Do you think those guys wont get tired of such attitude and stop coming all together?

The mentality of the Average SS youth needs to change.

Lololol. Clean up team gets there in 24 hours? Lololol. This is a white lie. A fat one at that. If actually that is the case how did we get to Ogoni? The guys were never violent from the start but the FG and the companies destroyed their psyche and left them with no space of positive growth. How were these guys faring before Saro Wiwa was put to sleep? Why did they develop such nasty attitude? Who made them what they are today. Simple. The FG.

PearlStreet:
Which part of Lagos was developed by the Colonial masters? Which part is referred to as Lagos state?
Because most of you don't read, whenever you hear Lagos as a federal capital, you think it's the same thing as Lagos State.
It's just Lagos Island that was a federal capital. It didn't even extend to Lekki Phase 1 or Oshodi as those places were under Western Region.

Meanwhile, the fact that you said you don't see the difference between SW and SE leaders means you're gonna be shedding these same tears for a long time. Keep electing people like TA Orji and Ikpeazu to lead you, na you sabi.

Lol. This is not logic. It wasn't Lagos that was the capital but Lagos Island? Lololol. More like Abuja is not the capital of Nigeria but just Asokoro. It's not Ikeja that is the capital of Lagos but Alausa. Lol. I won't even argue this or any of the others.

Bagehot:
I have a relative working with Mobil at Eket, and if you hear of the ridiculous things they encounter, you would just keep laughing. The funniest, a group of cripples went to barricade their office complex, and wouldn't go until they are settled. The honest truth is that across the world, crude oil is often found in the most volatile parts (by an accident of nature maybe) - Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Deep Seas etc., so IOCs already have experience in dealing in the most difficult terrains. IOCs by and large have extensive security and logistics arrangements & experience, to pull it off - most companies dont.

But they are still there? They didn't leave. That shows something still works. Why not do same for the ports. I know how the ND boys behave but it's a typical behaviour of anyone who have experienced their life. The FG wrecked them and still do, and if the change must begin, they must also be involved in their salvation. The guys need structures, FG gives them money. They need counselling, FG gives them money. They need clean up, the FG gives them money. But peace is worth more than money.

Bagehot:
The Nigerian Custom service would collect duties on behalf of the FG, and also inspect incoming cargoes for contrabands, while the owners of the port would manage the port complex.

Now I wonder how the FG is not involved if the Customs are involved.

adedayourt:
And do u facts behind the irrelevancy status of the ph port?

I still bliv the state govt ain't doing enough to change the status quo for the better in that region.

Facts? States. I'm telling you that it will you take you five times the money you spend in Lagos to import from there. It doesn't allow all forms of goods.

Bagehot:
I think you missed the part where it was clearly stated that the main promoter of the ports is Tollarams - a private company, with equity contribution from the LASG - the same way Eko Atlantic is also being promoted by the Chagoury group with support from LASG. Isn't it more productive to hold your governors accountable? Obaino is forever signing MOUs that lead no-where - same with a lot of governors across Nigeria.

The same states that haven't signed common C of O in years (I worked in a bank with branches across Nigeria, so I know) are hoping that investors would come and just dump their money in those states. So many of the governors you hail here for being 'fearless' have a history of not honoring contracts, and the judicial systems in their states are archaic, and yet you are wondering why development is not coming? What sane investor would put his money where there is no C of O (hence no title to land purchased), no history of obeying contracts (hence no protection), no imagination on the part of the rulers, hence no vision & foresight?

In Rivers state, a governor closed down a hotel for allowing opposition hold meetings there, and tomorrow they would claim they are investor friendly. Or is it in that northern state a governor bull-dozed a radio station he was guest-of-honour at it's launching just months eearlier for criticizing him?

Brother, please get serious.

Simple questions. Will the Nigerian Customs Service be in that port? Why is the PH ports not enjoying the same favors as the Apapa ports?

You see, let's forget any issue we have with the governors. Bulldozing a radio station or closing down a hotel is nothing here.

I can also point to the destruction of the properties of those in Otodo Gbame by LGSG in a case still in court. These are different issues.

Badonasty:
That crude oil is another issue in the sense that the oil companies don't have a choice...don you know how much these oil companies pay to the guys in those areas as protection money!?aw regards the issue of ports the nd and se govts need to find a way to help themselves and not wait for fg

Dude, are these guys stupid? Do you think you will act different if you were raised there? Your argument is too liquid. They don't have a choice because are taking from these people but when it comes to giving back, they get one. Who's talking about money here?

How much do you think will clean up their lands, how much will clean up their hearts from the grudge they hold against Nigeria, how much will clean up any evil intention they have for a country that only saw them as cash cow? You won't react differently if you were in their shoes.

Rekeb:
Customs doesn't run ports.

And customs have no business in the ports too.

adedayourt:
As much as I agree with you posit i want you to also be aware that the project doesn't seem to be a federal project but rather a Lagos state govt project partnering with private investors.

What is stopping others states from following suit in the name of evenly developing the country?

PH did same and the ports is still almost irrelevant? Don't you think there's something holding these governors and states back? Don't you think there's a reason the port Harcourt ports don't enjoy same thing enjoyed by the Lagos ports. To be honest with you, I think it's deliberate. But countries don't grow that way.

Badonasty:
I'm sorry if my comment might offend you but I think this is a private sector investment and one thing I believe investors need is security and peace of mind while running their business so who would want to invest in a volatile region rife with kidnapping,thuggery and all sorts of crime...the governors from those state need to do more in order to convince potential investors

That's a big issue to me. Take the ND States for example. How is it so easy to drill crude oil there but hard to let the ports work effectively? If thuggery is really a problem, when exactly? When they are taking away from the people or when they try to invest on the people?

Bagehot:
Has any eastern state tried to start one, and was refused by the FG? Didn't Cross River also start an FTZ (Tinapa)? What became of it?

Why must you compare? I'm not speaking for the eastern states but the entire Nigeria. I see no sense in the most smallest state in the country being the only one that is economically viable. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Afrojuju2017:
You are the ones that turned it into a tribal banter by insinuating that there is a calculated tribal gangup against the SE and SS.
You intentionally ignored the hardwork , vision and dedication of the SW leadership.

This port was designed and located to feed the inter lands of Ogun through Ogun Oyo and Ondo. The Ondo State government is already planning a super highway that links ondo to Lagos direct within 1hr

That's vision and purpose not some mediocre leadership in the SS and SE.

Those sycophants are still praising Ibori after all his looting of their sovereign wealth

I'm sorry but I don't think the growth of Lagos, Abuja, have anything to do with the visionary leadership of the SW or NC leaders. I don't think there's any difference between the leadership of the SW, SS and SE. I can agree the growth of Ogun has a lot to do with the visionary leadership of Ogun State leadership. I hope you don't see this as tribal talk but Lagos is the making of the Leadership of Nigeria right from the colonial era. I hope you don't misinterpret this.

evamena:
when community youths and chiefs will be disturbing business in south south , PH, WARRI AND CALABAR, you want people to come and invest and loss their capital

Lol. What sort of logic is this? But the country can assess raw crude from these areas. The raw crude that run the country. Why are they even violent? If you were in their shoe do you really think you will act different?

Afrojuju2017:
The only reason federal Customs have to run the place is because the Constitution says that Nigerian customs service is under federal control otherwise I'm sure Lagos state gov would implement a better performing agency to manage the port.

Heathrow airport is private but the UK border force still reign supreme in the affairs of the airport.

Yes we need 6 more ports and it's time the SE and SS governors get serious

Very good. This makes sense. But do you really think it's the governors fault? Have you ever tried importing through the PH ports? Do you wonder why people in PH choose Apapa, Lagos?

LaughButton01:
I mean....

you still don't get it do you?
were you about to start and the fed govt won't approve or you thought the fed govt initiated it
Choi... Nigerian youth

That's not the point here. The point is, is the FG involved or not? Yes or No? If that is agreed on then we can take the argument to why the states are not doing same. Why PH that did same is not enjoying the same support as the Lagos ports. What do you think?

chngebeginwthme:
Use google..

Google? But you didn't use Google to tell me it's a State Project. Let's be honest, how do you get the Customs to run a port that's fully state backed? How does that even work?

Afrojuju2017:
You obviously skipper English classes . Consent and order are two very different things. It's is the hardwork of the Omoluabi in Lagos that brought about this project.

There is nothing stopping the " enterprising " Igbo and your many billionaires from developing SE

And who will run this port? The Nigerian Custom Service or who exactly?

And why are you trying to turn it to a tribal banter. Is that an easier way to follow the argument or what exactly?

lastempero:
In the voice of Bob marley, they think they can fool all the people all the time.

Personally, I think it's silly. Like a mother that deliberately inhibits the growth of her children. Somebody is trying to say these Ports are state projects and you begin to wonder whether there is a body called Lagos State Custom Service that will run the place. A country doesn't grow like this. We need about 6 or more of what you have in Apapa all over the country. Same policy. Same clearing fee. Same system.

chngebeginwthme:
Lekki Seaport is a Lagos State Project..

A Seaport, without the backing of the FG, is bullshi't. It doesn't exist. Checks and balancing, logistics, etc., will be provided by the FG and not any local militia group or body set up by the state.