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debosky:
Why hasn't he completed 90 minutes? He stinks so much Fergie has to pull him off. He's that poor.

Because he is just recovering from a knee surgery.
That was why he missed the games against Chelsea, Everton and Pompey.
He came as a sub against West Ham and Aston Villa because he hasn't fully recovered from his injury.

He is scoring if not creating as much, so there is a balance.

Scoring what?

They are different players Show me where in his entire career before Utd Berba was so appalling in front of goal and I'll listen. He has flopped and been a big waste pipe at Utd, being left out of the biggest games which tells you all you need to know.

He has never played in a big team until he joined Man Utd.
When he arrived at Man Utd. . . . .He joined a side that has won almost a dozen premiership titles and 2 European cups.
He was joining the best team on the planet with some of the best players on the planet. . . . .United's dependence on him was smaller compared to the clubs he has been where he is expected to lead the line and deliver.  Fergie wants him to play as a 2nd striker, not a poacher.

That is a daft and recidivist line to use - I thought you would have outgrown asinine arguments but you are still in the doldrums of stupidity. Berba is a wastepipe end of story.

How is it daft?
Does it not make sense that the world class players and strikers you have in Arsenal have not won a dime in half a decade?
If Berbatov is poor, Owen is geriatric and Rooney is uesless. . . . .How have these players scored more goals at half way point than last season when we had Ronaldo and Tevez?

It seems you are still recta-cranially inverted.

debosky:
Eduardo has more quality than Berba can ever fathom - looking at the way he turns defenders can make you drool. . .YET the fact he hasn't been scoring makes people criticise him. His backheels to release others on goal, or his repertoire of tricks are legion - yet he is getting stick for not scoring. Forwards who don't score enough will be criticised, especially those who have built careers on scoring (over 4 seasons of consistently high returns) and are supposed to still be in their prime.

This can only come out of the mouth of a serial drunk. . . . .

Eduardo compared to Berbatov? Kiko Macheda is better than Eduardo and he is only 18.
In the committee of strikers, Eduardo and Danny Welbeck are mates. . . . . .Only a complete slowpoke will criticise Berbatov in Man Utd.

How did this lazy Berbatov score 48 international goals for Bulgaria making strikers like Torres, Henry, Ruud and Van Persie look like amateurs?
In his country, he is the poacher. . . . . .In Man Utd, he is a 2nd striker.
If you cannot understand that, then take a hike.

debosky:
You are an unrepentant mugu - who has debated jersey numbers with you? Are you high this early on a Tuesday? The fact is, for a so called 2nd striker, his goal tally is POOR.

That is what you keep saying. . . . .Berbatov wears 9, he should score like Torres.
How is 5 goals in 11 starts poor?
This is a striker who just had a surgery few weeks ago and has only completed 90 mins on sunday since October.

How many goals has Da Silva scored? You keep making ridiculous claims - Valencia is supposed to make an impact but Berba is not simply because he is a second striker. . . .heck he is in the team just to bear a title and not contribute to the team's performance.

Valencia's primary role is to put in decent crosses so United's strikers can score. He has not done that.
Nani's first season is even better than what Valencia has produced in the first half of the season and this is Valencia that has copped more appearances than any other outfield player this season.

Last season he hadn't fully understood the way the team plays, what is the excuse this time around? You got it - he's a pile of fresh ostrich turd.

Tell us once n for all. . . . . Is Shearer better than Cantona? Is Torre Andre Flo/Hasselbaink better than Zola?

Ferguson is not complaining and the same Berbatov is ahead of Fabregas, Van Rapist and Eduardo as far as winning titles is concerned.
How is it a sore in your throat that our lazy number 9 has won more titles than any member of your team save for Agent Silvestre we sold to you so you can have a STAR player in your squad?

Krayola:
Calm down. Ronaldinho used to do stuff like that every other game. AT the rate he is going he may even get back in that kinda form. Berbatov isn't all that. He's class, but weve seen much better. One fantastic assist and u're acting as if the guy does stuff like that more than 2ce a season. psscchheew

SOME of what Ronaldinho did in one season. See if Babatoff has done that his whole career. 

I can boldly say Ronaldihno does not possess 30% of Berbatov's techniques. . . .
In the whole of Europe and South America, there's no player with the ball control skills of Berbatov.
What he does on the pitch are things Dinho can only dream about. Football is not about running around like a headless chicken.

Dennis Bergkamp made me realise you can play footie for 90 mins without sweating but soccer illiterates like Debosky will tell me Alan Shearer was better than Eric Cantona because Shearer scored more goals.

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Eastbay:
Sauron,
No body is denying Berbatov's class/quality.
All we are saying as Mancs is he needs to score more.
This talk of second striker holds no water.
He scored 23 in the same season Robbie Keane had 20.Was he supporting then?I see no reason why he can't lead the line along with Rooney.

The way United play is different from the way SPURS play. . . . . .This is why we are the Champions and clubs like SPURS and Arsenal are the runts of the league. The main problem is Rooney - He is too selfless. He runs into positions he should be because he wants to do everyone's job.

"I want Rooney to play with his face to goal rather than his back to goal.
"You need one player more advanced and then the other can move around him." His Old Trafford manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, feels that the self-sacrificing streak now runs too deep in Rooney.

As you can see, Fergie wants Rooney to be more advanced so that Berbatov can move around him.

If he can boast of 5 goals all season at the half-way point,we really are talking of a dud considering he was bought for 30 million quid.

In that half-way point, Berbatov has only started 11 games.
Name any other striker with 11 starts this season that has scored more league goals.

You bring up Valencia,nobody was really expecting that kind of impact from him,but despite his limitations,he's played far better than our man wearing the 9 jersey.
People like Andy Cole and Louis Saha in recent memory who wore that number for United certainly will be feeling like WFOTY in comparison to the sulking machine.

The number of jersey means nothing. . . . . .Stop thinking like illiterates like Debo who feels the numbers on jersies equates to a dedicated responsibility.
Gallas wears 10, is he a playmaker? Owen wears 7, is he a winger? Essien wears 5, is he a centre-half?
The fact that Berbatov wears 9 does not make him a poacher. Berbatov is a 2nd striker.

Valencia was bought for £16 million. . . . .He has played in the PREM for 3 seasons.
Of course, i expect him to have a sudden impact and i also expect him to know when to cross.
Rafael Da Silva can cross the ball better than Valencia which is a shame.

MICHELIN89

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eldee:
This is Michellin at the just concluded Miss Ishan 2009 beauty paegent . . . believe it or not, it wasn't even Halloween.
She came first runner-up but she won Miss Photogenic

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Eldee, this is wickedness. . . . .
Michelin's teeth na die.

I am 100% certain she carries a potent venom in those incisors.

THESEEKER IMPREGNATES MICHELIN89.

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eldee:
Life is hard growing up in Michellin's village.
Myself and Sauron had pet dogs . . . Tope5000 had a cat called Ebonyeyes.
Here's Michellin'[/b]s pet . . . his name is [b]Muki
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Kunbee:
Please ooo dont kill Tope2000 with laughter

MICHELIN89 IN 2007. . . .

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Michelin89, Tope2000, Busy_Body and Ebonyeyes. . . .

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MICHELIN89 after taking Marijuana.

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mama-gee:
Exactly!
Imagine after the report from his father,
The screenings at the airport, he was still able to get that bomb into the plane.

And he woulda detonated the bomb but for a courageous passenger from Holland who overpowered Farouk.
If Farouk was seated near children or 80 year-old folks then his plans woulda been successful with his plot.

!amebo no1:
I don laff tire, i wont be surprised if people call police on me

Don't get arrested o. . . . .


MOYOLA

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Cheese n Rice. . . . . .Wetin be dis?

Whose chest hair was that? Debosky or 4play??

MICHELIN89 and CHIOGO chilling under the African sun.

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presido1:
Berbatov is a waste pipe. Spurs scammed SAF of £30m GBP. The biggest scam in the history of football.

Presido1, call the cops. . . . .
I keep telling you anti-Berba groups that what you require from Berbatov is way too different from what SAF requires.
He is playing Berbatov the way he wants him to play.

Keep possession, retain the ball and link the play.

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eldee:
Mukina2 just challenged me . . . You deal with MIchellin, I'll go for Muki.

I nor pity Mukina2. . . . . . .I have got her bathing pics with me.
She was bathing with a Camel in one village river. If she taunts me, i will print it.

lalaboi:
If there is anyway to check sign on times of friends i would suggest you do so. . . I dnt play everytime! and when i do play. . its maybe 2hrs or less!. . .Or match up with work mates . . . . If i played everytime. . .my skill level wont be 14! . . . .so no excuse!

U play everytime and skill level means shit.
If you don't play online. . . . .skill level does not even come to play.

This is my problem wit you. . . Yeye mouths!. . . Your play lacks class, style and gameplan!. . .all i see is disjointed 10 players running around lol. . . no style of play!. . . u either take it to the corner and cross or just run around till i get the ball off u . . .

See this boy. . . . . .Ma play lacks class?
Your play lacks more class. . . . . .leaving strikers with the keeper so you can nick the ball from the goalie is what you call class?
You nor sabi play footie.

like i have always said. . . . I know a good player when i see one. . .if your excuse is not enough game time. .i should atleast see traits of brilliance!. . .none of that exist!. . . . If you got class. . . its always a part of you! u never loose it

Playing computer games requires consistent playing and game time.
If you stop playing for 3 months, you will become quack and it will take a while to return back to your old self.
If you deny this then i will know you have never been a gamer. . . . .Prolly you started playing few months ago.

Kunbee:
@sauron and eldee thanks for the pics at least you were not too harsh on me

You are not a troublemaker like Michelin89 and Tope2000.
I am still waiting for the OP so i can unleash the 2nd volley of more hot pics.

HIO4:
Yup. . . .
Another FEMA-like catastrophe that they will continue to downplay and fail to own up to.
They find it easier to focus on profiling and propagating stereotypes

USA is a useless country. . . . . .Their security has to be the worst in the developed world. . . .

dayokanu:
When did Berbatov become a second striker?  At Leverkusen, Bulgaria and Tottenham. He was a top 9 Failure At his duties now mean he is a second striker.9

Berba is a 2nd striker in MANCHESTER UNITED. . . . .I don't care if he's a goalkeeper in Leverkusen.
Rooney used to be a 2nd striker as well but after Berba's arrival, Rooney is now leading the line.

Who was SAF and Capello criticising to stay in the box last season?
Who did SAF want to start being SELFISH?

Rooney's centre-forward role has now fetched him 13 league goals(He scored just 12 throughout last season).

dayokanu:
Totti was once highest goalscorer in Serie A

Berbatov is the highest goal scorer in his country.
As a matter of fact, his goal stats put pretenders like Torres, Klose, Van Persie and Luca Toni into eternal shame.

Like i have said, it all depends how a manager decides to deploy false 9s.

dayokanu:
Berbatov was so useless that a Rooney who is a natural support striker is leading the lines while Berba SUCK is clowning all over

Both of em are second stikers. . . . .Fergie had to push Rooney further ahead and Berbatov is to play deep.

debosky:
Berbatov is a waste of money, no doubt about it. You don't pay 30m for a 'deep-lying striker' at 28 years old, when that has NEVER been his role - his role has always been score goals and he is failing to do that - simple.

Olodo. . . . . .back up your claims.
Show me one single link on the internet where Fergie said i bought Berbatov so he can come and clinch 50 goals per season.
A player compared to Eric Cantona before his arrival can never be expected to come to United and SCORE PLENTY GOALS.

Berbatov's acquisition was endorsed to improve the graggs known with Rooney and Tevez.
Gut-busting runs with no class and panache irritates Fergie and so he bought Berbatov. The Cantona of our generation.

The fact that Cantona/Zola are legends without any goal scoring prowess puts your points in the recycle bin.

HIO4:
LOL WTF @ man

So what's the essence of having a watchlist that is not closely monitored or properly regulated to protect citizens from terror.

It is just there to play with like a kiddie's teddy bear.
USA messed up big time. . . . .They had the info and they did nothing with it.
Fair play to the Homeland Security though.

debosky:
Sharon must be the daftest poster on nairaland. Do you have to sleep in the box to score goals?  

Yes, you have to sleep in the box to score goals. . . .
This is why strikers are the highest goal scorers in this league, not midfielders.

Is Cesc a striker? Yet he's scored 12 goals this season. . . like I said earlier, Berba's intelligence is as useful as the beard on Rooney's face.  

Have you factored freekicks and penalties in this statistic or are you still walking with your brain cells?

The fact that he is deep lying is NO EXCUSE not to score goals - if other players are not heading the strikeforce and yet  in goals, what is the point of Berba?   How many goals did Gerrard score last year? Wasn't he deeper lying compared to Torres?  

Same answer. . . . . . .Gerrard, Lampard and Fabregas are leaders in their team.
They take corner-kicks, freekicks and penalties. . . . .Unless you are a nanny goat, you should expect them to score more goals than Berbatov.

Rubbish - because Berba creates one goal for Valencia he's the one making him look good?

We paid £30 million for him to come do that. . . . .
Why is it a sore in your throat? With Berbatov, we won a league title. . . .something Arsenal have not won for 5 seasons with their bestest players on the planet. Does Fabregas know what it takes to lift the PREM TITLE? Does Van Rapist?

More rubbish I say!  In 06/07 Robbie Keane played alongside Berba and ALSO scored 20+ goals that season so what is so special about Utd that the deeper lying player is incapable of scoring a decent return? Berba is a useless piece of turd at Utd simple and short.

Because we play a different brand of football.
So different it has won us 11 titles in 17 seasons and won the last 3 EPL titles.
Maybe if Arsenal and SPURS play like us, they would win the league too. It's not about scoring gazillion goals. . . . There should be a BALANCE.

Strikers playing deep have been scoring from time immemorial, not having a pitiful goal return like Berba's. It just goes to show he is a waste of space.

I can name few deep lying strikers that haven't scored goals at all.

Kanu
Bergkamp
Gullit
Zola
Totti
Cantona

In their own rights, all these players are LEGENDS so what do you have to say to that?
Zola is poo because he didn't score 25 league goals?

lalaboi:
I see you warming up hard!! lol. . . . .still gona trash u nonetheless. . .

beat your houseboy sauron about 2weeks ago. . . .6games now and he still got nun on me! lol

God punish your mouth. . . . .Anuofia!!!
U think everyone sits by their PS3 like you do all the time?

tboy1:
lol . . . so with all sauron mouth on FIFA na so PES former fans dey show am
dat is to say if sauron plays PES wit us, na die for am be dat

no need for warm up wit u . . . im ready whenever u are

Playing these games require a lot of game-time for sharpness and stealth.
Until the day i played lalaboi. . . .I hadn't played for months. . . .I saw him ONLINE, we played and he managed to win by a small margin.
If i have a go at it for 3 days, i will murder you and Lalaboi.

dayokanu:
Valencia has over performed given his expectation infact he is one of the few bright spots in United.
Berbatov on the other hand is a complete waste of space. No one buys a supposed 23 goals a season striker and he retuns that horrible figure, he needs to see TB Joshua

Valencia is a piece of turd. . . . .He is the most limited winger in the league.
As a matter of fact, playing around quality players like Berbatov has made Valencia look like a decent player that he isn't.

Valencia is a lowly winger from Wigan, Berbasulk is a 23 goal striker and his output is now comparable with Opabunmi

His roles in SPURS and Man Utd are very different. . . . .The way SPURS play is very different from the way Man Utd play.
Rooney is the point-man. . . .not Berbatov and this is why Rooney has pinged 13 league goals already this season. He scored just 12 throughout last season. If that still doesn't tell you Berbatov plays deeper than Rooney then i cannot help you.

kay_pumpin:
How on earth will Berbatov achieve whatever he did with Tottenham with United with no discplined forward a la Keane. One thing is Dimi is no CF,neither is Rooney.
I am not a fan of Dimi,but to condemn him as a totally useless player is ludicrous.

Obviously, Dayo and Debo walk with their brain cells.
Berbatov cannot play deep and be United's fox in the box at the same time. . . .and yet they expect him to match Drogba's goal return.
Dimitar is intelligence and class. . . . .His assist for Valencia against the Wolves is the most ridiculous ball control i have seen this year.
Not even Messi or Ronaldo coulda pulled that off.

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debosky:
Another silly comparison - how many goals did Bergkamp score in the two years previously at Inter? Was he scoring goals there? Obviously his game was no longer centered around scoring but being a creative force behind a prolific goalscorer such as Wrighty and Henry - Utd have no such proven goal scorer ahead of Berba and you know why? That is what Berba is supposed to be.

Stop exposing your idiocy on a public forum.
United have no such proven goal scorer until Berba's arrival?
A certain forward who outscored all the strikers in Europe in 2007/8 is not a goal scorer? Rooney is not?

DB10 scored only 11 goals in his previous 2 years before coming to Utd -

DB10 came to Man Utd? When? What season?
This boy is a retard.

compare that to the 23 goals per season by Berba in the two seasons before moving to Utd. . . the difference is clear: goalscoring is the purpose of Berba and he has been a consummate failure in that regard.

So the excuse you conveniently created for Bergkamp cannot also affect Berbatov?
I still don't know how a striker who has never scored more than 14 league goals in the EPL is meant to score 30 league goals for United.
In Tottenham, Berbatov takes penalties/freekicks. . . . .Something he will never take in Man Utd with Giggs, Nani, Rooney, etc ahead of him.

debosky:
How long was Bergkamp the most expensive player? Stop bringing asinine comparisons where they don't hold water.

You are a disgrace. . . . .Of what essence was how long Bergkamp was the most expensive player?
The fact remains he was the most expensive player in this league when he was bought and he never scored 20 league goals in a single season.
Shelling £10.5 milla on a striker in 1995 is the same as paying £50 milla today(if you factor the recession).

Were Zola and Kanu also the most expensive buys?

Berbatov ain't even the most expensive when he was bought. . . . .Robinho was!!
I only brought that into the debate when spastics keep bringing his price tag into the equation.
Kanu and Zola were not the most expensive buys BUT they were strikers who did not score many goals but they are considered as club LEGENDS.

Tevez only got frozen out last season because of Fergie's insistence on sidelining him and we saw the result - an ultimately failed CL charge. Contrast with the previous season when he was a mainstay - the difference is clear: Utd won the UCL.

We didn't need Carlos Tevez to rape Arsenal home n away last season to get into the final.
Had Fabregas not dived to get Fletcher booked, United woulda played Berbatov in the final.
The absence of Fletcher/Hargreaves meant a different formation had to be deployed. . . . .

Berba topping 23 goals per season for two seasons coming to Utd and being happy with 5 goals in over 15 games is atrocious and an unmitigated disaster after being bought for 30m. There is no other definition for that.

This is why i said it is the way Ferguson wants him to play.
He is not an out n out striker for Man Utd. . . . .Comparing his stats in SPURS with United when it is obvious to a blind man that he is not being used like the way he was used in SPURS makes you a plonker. . . . . .Why hasn't his international goals statistics dried up?

If Tevez belongs at Arsenal, Berbatov belongs to Hull.  

Hull are a more successful side than Arsenal so i will take that.
Hull had something to cheer only 2 seasons ago. . . .Promotion.
Arsenal have not cheered anything for FIVE YEARS. . .Deterioration and eternal ROT.

You buy a striker worth 30m to be the top dog - compare him to the top dogs at other clubs - Drogba, Torres, Ibrahimovic. . . .he's a pile of goat excreta.

We did not buy Berbatov to be the top dog. . . . .He is a deep lying forward. . .stop arguing like a retard.
Bergkamp was bought for £10.5 milla in 1995. . . . .Players who were bought for less than £100,000 scored more goals than him which means the legendary Dennis Berkamp is a goat excreta? U need a brain scan.

I bet you now that Van Persie will outscore him this season without kicking another ball. That just goes to show how rubbish Berba is.

When Van Persie scores 13 league goals in his career, get back to me!!!
When Van Persie becomes the highest goal scorer for his country in international games. . .get back to me.
When Van Persie wins the domestic league, commit suicide.

debosky:
A player bought to score goals doesn't score goals and you say he has intelligence? Of what use has that intelligence been? You might as well say Fergie bought him for his straight hair since Tevez' hair was too curly.

Arsene Wenger on Dennis Bergkamp:

"Intelligence and class. Class is of course, most of the time linked to what you can do with the ball, but the intelligence makes you use the technique in an efficient way. It's like somebody who has a big vocabulary but he doesn't say intelligent words, and somebody who has a big vocabulary but he can talk intelligently, and that's what Dennis is all about. What he does, there's always a head and always a brain. And his technique allows him to do what he sees, and what he decides to do"

Bergkamp only scored 2 league goals in 24 appearances when Wenger made this statement.
Intelligence and scoring goals are 2 different things. . . .I like making you look like a plonker.
U wanna know the essence of intelligence. . . . .Ask Wenger.

debosky:
Mumu - Tevez won the UCL and league for Utd and you're here talking nonsense?  Berba is so good yet he wasn't started for a UCL final while Tevez was. . . do the math.

Tevez was so good. . . . .He didn't start in last season's UCL final and Semis(JS Park was preferred to him).
That should tell you how much SAF valued Tevez while he was here. . . . . .
Same Tevez that could only score 5 goals in 29 apps for Man Utd last season. . . . .People like Tevez belong to Arsenal. . .not Man Utd.

Get your head out of your behind.

Mumu. . . . .How many goals did Dennis Bergkamp score for Arsenal when he was the most expensive player in the Premiership in 1995?
I am sure dunderheads like you would say Pires was better than him cos Pires scored more.

What about Zola? Kanu? Cantona?
Did they ever top the goal scorer's charts?
I used to think you are intelligent. . . . .This discourse has finally exposed you.