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debosky:
If he has another active id on nairaland he will be disqualified - provide proof available.

Debosky, we cannot see the poll result.
What is going on?

RuuDie:
@ tbk, sauron
c'mon people. . . . . the man played a back-4 against wolfsburg - here against fulham, he played a back-3. Unthinkable when you know the lone CB is who. . . . . . . . CARRICK; on the left DE LAET, on the right FLETCHER  

He played 3-5-2 against Wolfsburg.
The only difference was JS Park who played as a wing back and was dropping back as a RB and bombing forward as a winger.

when we reverted to 4-4-2, did you not see the see some form of sanity return to the entire game

With the benefit of hindsight. . . . .

LIVERPOOL ARE NO THREAT TO MAN UTD.

After last season saw Liverpool mount their first serious challenge for the Premier League title this decade, some are backing them to go a step further in the 2009-10 edition.

Sir Alex Ferguson is not one of those people.

The Manchester United boss held off Rafael Benitez's Reds down the stretch last term to claim a third straight PL crown, and he doubts that the Merseysiders will pose any more of a threat this time around.

"It will be hard for them to match last season, let alone improve on it. Other teams will know more about them," Ferguson told The Sun.

"Liverpool had probably their best season for 20 years and still finished four points adrift."

Some observers have begun leaning towards the Scot's way of thinking now that 'Pool have confirmed that Xabi Alonso, arguably their star man last season, is on his way to Real Madrid.

However, Ferguson is not convinced that the Spanish midfielder's departure will have much of an effect either way, as he is of the opinion that the Scousers' greatest weapons lie further afield.

"The exert of their team is all about [Steven] Gerrard and [Fernando] Torres," he added.

Still, the question remains: who will be Man United's most dangerous rivals in 2009-10? Ferguson believes the answer is to be found in west London.

"It has to be Chelsea as the main threat. [Carlo] Ancelotti will change how they play," he said.

"They will play the Milan way. It brought him two European Cups - it should have been three, because they should never have lost to Liverpool. So why should he change?

SAF is god, tkb417.
He made these comments on the 5th of August even before a ball was kicked this season.
99% of the Pundits in UK tipped Liverpool to win the title this season but only SAF's analysis was spot-on.
He lost on Fulham because all the managers in this world put together wouldn't have salvaged a point against Fulham with 8 defenders out.

tkb417:
Fulham and Villa aint wolfsburg

if SAF tries it with Leeds UTD, we'll lose

i believe SAF is smoking weed nowadays

So if you were SAF @ Craven Cottage, who would you have played and what formation?

RuuDie:
SAF should never ever try that 3-5-2 formation ever again if he doesn't have DEFENDERS. . . . .  you have a make-shift defence and instead of playing a system they are familiar and comfortable with, you opt for something right outta the blue - what was all that for
sometimes i suspect that man of match-fixing - that was totally inexplicable!

that was rubbish! From the very second i saw the way the team was spread, i knew we were in deep S***T!

Hindsight analysis. . . . .

When he used it against Wolfsburg and United won 1-3, did you complain?
[i]S[/i]hit happens, get over it.

I cannot fault SAF for using that formation on Saturday.
Credits to Fulham for taking full advantage of our hopeless situation in the defence.

Krayola:
Pique, Keita, Busquets, Maxwell, Messi as #10 and not stuck out on the right, Alvez.

Pique? The same Pique Rijkaard sent to us so we can develop him?
You are a disgrace.

Messi? Messi is still stuck on the right and he is allowed to roam.
Keita, Busquets and Maxwell are surplus to requirements. How many of these idiots will play in a CL-final if everyone is fit?

Now Maxwell, Ibra, Chygrinsky, Pedro, Jeffren. . . I don't even know what to say to u anymore. U are beyond clueless  

See this mumu.
Here, only Ibra deserves a mention and he was a straight swap for Samuel Etoo.
What has changed? Has Guardiola changed the way Barcelona play under Rijkaard?
Did he discover the best players in the Barca team?

If u have a clue what we played like under rijkaard u wouldn't dare say Pep has not changed the system, but debating that with u will be like arguing with Nemo. In your world playing the same formation means playing the same system. In fact, silence is the best answer for u on this one  :-

You are a plonker.
Chelsea under Jose Mourinho played 4-3-3 but see how Ancellotti has improvised a new system/formation with the diamond system.
To me, that is innovation. The general belief was Anelka and Drogba couldn't play together under Grant/Scolari.
Now, Ancellotti is playing em together and getting good results. . . . .Pep Guardiola has not done that to Barca.
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debosky:
That may be so. . . BUT the second half this time around will not be as easy as last season's - don't count on the same thing repeating itself.

I will be disappointed if the same schitzo happens again.
If it can happen 3 times in a row. . . . . . .It will happen 10 times in a row if y'all are not careful.

Krayola:
I wonder who deserves the credit for the 2 trophyless seasons before Pep took over. . . and the pounding from Real Madrid, finishing 3rd behind Villarreal, fat Ronaldinho and hung-over Deco being played at the expense of Iniesta . . . .

Let Guardiola build his own team and stop feeding off other manager's credits.
He is so daft he has stuck to Rijkaard's 4-3-3 system. What expertise has he brought to the Barca team?
What innovations?

SAF has not won sextuple his entire career. . . U betta bow, and give credit where it's due. Ure startin to sound like Ja Rule when 50 cent dropped his 1st album.  

Guardiola has not won 2 league titles in a row in his entire career.
Guardiola has not built a team he can call his own in his entire career.
U are beginning to sound like a Camel being sodomised by a Gorilla.

tkb417:
are we supposed to win this thing from now till Jesus comes back?

we win some we lose some
let Arsenal win this if they've got balls

Arsenal win what?
GAYnners cannot win this league till Wenger collects his P45.
Aston Villa have a better chance than the GAYnners.

akinalabi:
May cost. Dropping points may cost any team at any time.

I'm not even keen on the league. You guys just want us to go for it by force. Na
only Man u dey for league?

Don't mind the losers.
That United are even 2nd on the table after THREE IN A ROW is a disgrace to Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal.

debosky:
Dropping points against Fulham and Villa may cost you the league - that's what I'm alluding to not the victories.

It won't cost nada. . . . . . 4 points difference at this stage is NOTHING.
United will get that 4 points somewhere next year. Our injured players will come back as new signings.
Traditionally, United get better as the season progresses so there's a lot to cheer.

Krayola:
hahaha  PLAYA HATER IN DA HOUSE, IF U SEE HIM POINT HIM OUT ^^^^  

U know it's a fact. . . . . .

Any manager that inherits Puyol, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Etoo and Henry should win titles.
Rijkaard deserves all the credits for putting a dead Barca on the map in 2005/6 when Barca were forgotten as a big club.

Krayola:
United aint win no "sextuple" though    Is that even a real word? See wetin barca don cause. . .words don nearly finish to describe our success. Chei!! Man Utd's last season that u wouldn't shut up about just looks like jagba jantis now. Pep has humbled baba agbaya Ferguson   

Shut up your mouth and let us breathe.
United won quintuple last season on the back of having won the previous two league titles.
Let Guardiola win 3 La Liga titles in a row before you start your erections.

Guardiola inherited a good team. . . . . .Rijkaard deserves all the credits not Guardiola.
Onigbinde will win the Champions League with the Barca team Guardiola inherited.
SAF has built teams, dismantled it, built it again and dismantled it.

debosky:
Will FPL autosub for the players that couldn't feature due to postponed games?

Nope!!!!
The match will still be played on a later date so i doubt they will apply auto-sub to that.

tkb417:
when are they doin the auto sub?
i had shawcross too and i tot he got zero pts

Tonight, i think. . . . .

meaning im getting at least 2 pts added to the 54 i had
i dont think thts enuff to push me to 6th position

the race continues.  .  .  .

By January 1st, i should be in the top ten.

debosky:
I had Klasnic - with his run of form he was bound to get a goal.

Heard the pitch is ok, but Wigan doesn't want the fans to slip and fall due to the ice.

Smart move!!!!
If they don't do that. . . . .there will be 10,000 claims of injury compensation by those jobless touts.
Wigan will have to pay £££££££££££££££££££££££££ because fans fell on their backsides.

Injury Law is the biggest farce in the world.

akinalabi:
It doesnt mean nothing. . .

We werent too good against the other top 3 last season and we won the title. The quality
of the opposition does not come into play when counting points that will win you the league.

Don't mind Debosky.
United trounced the bottom 12 teams last season home and away bar Newcastle(home) to win the title.
Of the 72 points available against the bottom 12 teams, United copped a whooping 70 points.
That was how the title was won. Liverpool came on top beating the toughest opposition but they won nowt last season.

tkb417:
assou ekoto?

is he an automatic sub or what?
cos spurs played on saturday

Auto sub!!!
Shawcross did not play for Stoke City so Assou should fill in for him.

tkb417:
lol

una never jam

my team is rising steadily
lets see if i can get an automatic UCL slot

Assou Ekotto will bail me out.
I have 6 points to take from him.

debosky:
I'm angry jor. . . .Bolton vs Wigan has been postponed. . . .woulda gotten at least 10 points from that game.

Now I'm down to 64 again.

It's the worst news for me.
I had Rodallega in ma team and he was bound to score a brace tonight and the useless UK weather messed things up.
Rubbish!!! I am losing over 20 points on this nansense.

debosky:
Playing weak sides like Wolves and beating them 4-1 masks the underlying problems in defence - once you face more potent rivals you get exposed.

It was 3-0. Pay attention to details, amigo.

3 points per win yes, but the quality of the opposition matters as well - Utd's tough league start last year meant that by the time they got into their stride they played poorer teams and thus kept their noses in front.

United won the title last season beating bottom teams home and away.
The head to head grand slam fixtures did not yield anything so it's imperative a team beats the smaller teams.

You should have sufficient nous to realise that London derbies are often close encounters - Both Wolves and Portsmouth were summarily dispatched by both Arsenal and Chelski so that should tell you the Hammers case is different.

Why wasn't Manchester derby a close encounter for us?
The same Pompey that tonked Liverpool 2-0?

debosky:
Not bad yes, but those stats don't tell the full story:

Chelski has played Arsenal and Man City in this period.

United trounced these teams convincingly in August.

Arsenal has played Chelski, Liverpool, Sunderland and Burnley in that period - Utd dropped points against ALL those teams.

The ones in bold were all AWAY games.

Utd in contrast faced the bottom three teams in this period, all of whom they beat. The only win of note was against Everton whom have been poor so far.

In the two games of substance you've played in that period - Fulham and Villa you lot have come up woefully short.

Chelsea and Arsenal played West Ham in that period and they did NOT record a victory against the Hammers.

Cristalz:
You mentioned Sauron. Controversial, yes. Not honest. Abusive, abrasive, yes. All minuses.
Hez got pluses in knowledge and intelligence, but his negatives disqualify him as the best poster overall.

I raise me hands up for going a bit OTT about this comment last night and for that i am retracting what i said earlier so sorry for the outburst.

debosky:
Y'all are lucky - if Sharon was here spilling his bunkum then you'd get a lot more ribbing.  

Fergie screwed up selling Tevez - his goals scored for Citeh show clearly that he can score consistently when given a good run in the side.

Shut up your dirty mouth, you spastic GAYnner.

LAST 6 GAMES:

Chelsea W3 L1 D2 11 points
Arsenal W3 L2 D1 10 points
Liverpool W2 L2 D2 8 points

Man Utd W4 L2 D0 12 points

Not a bad record with all the injuries.

jalether:
Why are scummies such a wimp, it cannot be a coincidence that all scummies on NL except maybe (jaybee who had some balls) disappeared

into oblivion after the game. the correlation between United loss and scummies disappearance is too obvious to be just a coincident

Maybe it's because United fans are not used to FAILURE like you do.

nateevs:
I understand why everyone thinks we will be terrible when Drogba leaves . .
And that's just because we are not even flying when he's around.

Anelka might solve this problem though.
He seems to revel playing alone upfront than being partnered with another striker.

Having said that, nothing is certain. I think everyone should wait to see if we do something in the transfer window before y'all start counting your chicks

Where is the cash to splash?
Lets even assume there is cash, who do you buy?
Lets even assume you cop a striker, how soon will he adapt?

Siena:
My uncle wouldn't show a blatant disregard for the laws of his host country, and if he did, he would deserve the same treatment as Onwumbiko, or any other similar contemptous law-breaker.

House arrest - at the British tax payer's expense? It costs less to house any person within the regular prison system.

As for him being disabled, that makes no difference. A disabled man / woman could abscond with the help of the family you've so thoughtfully mentioned. Unless you expect him to be watched 24-7?

An average prisoner in the UK costs the tax payers £110 everyday.
House arrest will quadruple that.

Onwubiko himself will slap many of his supporters here cos i am sure he musta learnt his lessons by now.
He deserves to be deported. No question about it.

jalether:
, you dey mind sauron, Ipswich ko, Milton Keynes ni

Make una leave Sauron and his Ipswichness alone. . . .
U nuccas should get a life abeg. . . . United lost 0-3 and so?

Krayola:
Puyol is a CB that turned Cronaldo into a defender. Yaya Toure is CM turned DM turned CB for that game. Sylvinho is almost 37 years old and was doing the business. busquets is fresh out the Nursery.

What is this drunkard saying? Why didn't you play the diminutive Xavi and Iniesta as centre-backs against United?
Wes Brown is a RB that played as CB against Barca in the season United knocked Barca out.
Vidic was absent in both legs and i remember Brown making the triumvirate of Henry, Messi and Etoo look like laboratory retards.
180 mins without a goal says it all.

your team is all hype and no substance. injuries is NEVER an excuse for a big team. that why u are called a BIG team!!

U cannot win 3 EPL titles in a row in the same league that has got Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea and be all hype and no substance.
Pep Guardiola cannot win 3 La Liga titles in a row in La Liga where the quality of his rivals are nothing compared to EPL.
Who would Barcelona play in the defence with Valdes and 8 top defenders out?
Please answer this question or shut up.

nateevs:
ManU will still drop points in the next half and if we don't capitalize, we don't deserve the PL.

ManU drop 6 points in 8 days and we drop 4 . . It's crazy.

EPL teams have not learnt their lessons about Man Utd and it's a shame.
If Man Utd are within a touching distance to the league leaders by New Year then they will win the EPL.
Traditionally, the rack up more points in the 2nd half of the season and that is where i feel Chelsea will finish 2nd/3rd.

Can't wait for Drogba and his cohorts to get to Angola.

Krayola:
Barcelona killed Utd in the finals with Puyol playing right back, Yaya playing CB, Busquets at DM, and Sylvinho at LB.

What a lame excuse from the so call biggest team in the EPL. What a joke

Which of the players here are not defenders?
Is Puyol a midfielder? Is Sylvinho? Is Pique?
U must suffer from amnesia.

~Borat~:
Stop yarning poppycock,
Most of these defenders were useless when fit so what exactly is your point
Would you prefer own goals?

I thought i told this loser to stop quoting me
Since your attention span is shorter than a leprechaun, this is another reminder.

agabaI23:
Sauron

I doubt the 8 defenders will be back by 27th.

Do you still expect to lose as you did not expect any win from yesterday?

Brown and Vidic will be back by then.

ritchboy:
Sauron
Joe Cole is the worst only cos can Nani cant be considered a professional player. . . That would be like calling an 'area boy' at the junction an IRS agent

Hahahahaha. . . . . . . .Nani is going to the world cup, can't say the same about Joe Cole.

Phony200:
Nothing concerns me chelsea except FPL. Sauron, I was hoping for a point against Fulham. It's impossible to play well against an in-form team both locally and internationally with 1 recognisable defender. It's one game, we keep moving ahead.

A point against Fulham with 8 defenders missing out . . . . .SAF must be super-human.

Phony200:
I'm afraid to post o. The igboro is not smiling right now.

Homie, get over it!!

I was more pained with the Chelsea defeat than the loss at Fulham.
What could SAF have done to prevent the defeat? 8 defenders missing. . . . .
Should he have played his wife as a centre-back against a very decent Fulham team?