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Christianity EtcRe: God And Evil. by ScienceWatch: 7:32pm On Jan 08, 2018
hakeem4:
once you are a widow no one will have right to sleep with you. what should we do in that case
Sleep alone.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 7:22pm On Jan 08, 2018
darkchild64:
What question
Why did Hitler never answer anyone that questioned him?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 7:20pm On Jan 08, 2018
darkchild64:
What question
The question in front of you, slightly to the left.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For Sciencewatch? by ScienceWatch: 7:06pm On Jan 08, 2018
Martinez19:
Oh dear, the theists as usual have derailed any thread set to expose them. They have derailed so much to confuse readers. I wanted to assess how much faith they have in their prophets.
I WANT TO ASK SCIENCEWATCH A QUESTION !

Has a highly recognized critic of prophet TB Joshua ever been to SCOAN to investigate if the miracles and demonic deliverances are all true?

Yes there were many, even undercover investigations.

Professor Ouweneel holds doctorates in biology (Utrecht), philosophy (Amsterdam) and theology (Bloemfontein, RSA).
Professor Ouweneel is a theology and philosophy professor at several colleges and theological faculties. He is the author of over 100 books. He lives in the Netherlands, where he was born.

Here is an extract from Professor Ouweneel’s experience at the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria ;

I come from a Brethren background and not a charismatic background. So naturally I was a bit reluctant to go to Nigeria, but my daughter went there several times and she gave me the message that T.B. Joshua was interested in seeing me, although she had not told him anything about me. So I went there twice, once for five days and once for ten days and I hope to go there again.

Professor Ouweneel says, ”I was very much impressed by what I saw, heard and experienced there. Not so much only in seeing the miracles that happened and the sermons that were given, but particularly the spiritual experience in my own soul when I was there. That is something that everyone who doesn't go there in person will miss."

He said, "You will not experience personally what it is to be at such a sacred place, where I felt the Lord's presence in a particular way and where He spoke to me on things that He had not spoken on to me previously in such a powerful way."

Prof Ouweneel states. ”I have seen many of the false criticisms about Prophet TB Joshua on websites and in newspapers and I am very angry with the criticisms as they are totally unfair and just repeating the mistakes (or even lies) others have made. They are people who are not in a position to really judge, that is a very cheap way of criticizing. It reminds me very strongly on what the Pharisees did who judged the Lord Jesus from their own framework of thought and put him in the category of the devil (Matthew 12).
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For Sciencewatch? by ScienceWatch: 6:55pm On Jan 08, 2018
A QUESTION FOR SCIENCEWATCH :

What happens in Scoan, do they have female evangelists too?

The glory of God was felt in the atmosphere as congregants expressed gratitude to God in different ways. Through songs of praise and worship coupled with the testimonies, God’s goodness in their lives was declared with joy and gracefulness. The SCOAN Sunday service of above every other thing, opened the eyes of all Christians to the fact that they are more than they see themselves.

This eye opener came with the thought-provoking message of female Evangelist Chloe tilted
A PURPOSE LARGER THAN YOURSELF.
Evangelist Chloe reminded Christians of their true identity as children of God and how some have always short-changed themselves by dwelling on themselves and the situations around them instead of focusing on Christ Jesus, the author and finisher of their faith. “When a little hard time comes, we get overwhelmed and feel as if the end has come,” she submitted, insisting that “the only way to see life clearly is to focus on Christ alone.”
She enlightened Christians further on their true identity in Christ Jesus, stressing that they are not ordinary as they have always seen themselves among the crowd. “We are called not to be among the masses out there who move without direction,” she posited.

She also called on Christians to attune themselves to the fact that by His death on the Cross of Calvary, they are redeemed. She said, “The only way to feel good about yourself is to believe and accept what Jesus has done for you on the Cross.” Alluding to the story of Job who held on and focused on God, in spite of all the calamities that befell him,

Evangelist Chloe maintained that a man’s heart is what his thoughts are. In other words, the more we ponder over our situation, the more we get dejected and allow the devil to torment us more and more. Job was able to overcome his calamities with the latter glory that came in a hundred-fold because all along, he never lost his focus on God.

Concluding, she left the following advice for Christians all over the world – “Just as Satan loses no time in plotting against us, we too should lose no time in committing ourselves to God.”
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For Sciencewatch? by ScienceWatch: 6:39pm On Jan 08, 2018
Martinez19:
if TB Joshua, being specific as you asked, later said " when you child is 80, just like Moses at the time of his calling back to Egypt, God will use him to christianise Nigeria once and for all and turn the people's heart to God." would you believe him?
I will be better if we ignore this Martinez19's deluded ramblings and focus on scientifically verifiable facts experience by an international audience daily. Prophet TB Joshua explained what happens when he does Deliverance/Exorcises a demon.
TB Joshua explained that when he exorcises a demon, the demon is CHAINED HANDS and LEGS and is thrown into hell awaiting judgment.
Please note that this role can only be performed by the angel with the key to the bottomless pit and a Great Chain in His Hand working with the highly anointed TB Joshua, in other words, the demon is sent into the place prepared for the devil and his angels. Hell which is also called “Gahena” (in Greek) and has no chance of returning to the world, neither can he repossess his former host or any other person because he’s been shut up in hell and a seal set a on him. Revelation 20 and corresponds with the experience and tons of testimonies of those persons that had the blessing of this Deliverance.

This is in stark contrast to the exorcism done by many other ministers, of which evil spirits revealed that they are indeed cast out during the deliverance sessions by Great ministers, only to wait outside the scene of the deliverance to regain possession of their hosts, because the lot of these ministers work with lesser angels, like the one held for 21 days by demons when he was sent to Daniel, till he was released by a mightier angel.

These ministers deliverance process follows this template;
Jesus says in Luke 11 24
”when an evil spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest and finding none, he says, I will return to my house from which I came when he comes he finds it swept and put in order then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself and they enter and dwell there and the last state of that man is worse than the first” .
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 6:08pm On Jan 08, 2018
butterflyl1on:
Answer the simple question and stop insinuating RELIGION in every comment.
Butterflyl1on Sir, your diagnosis of the real reason why Atheists such as Darkchild64 are unable to get away from TROLLING religious topics, caught my attention in passing.
With great empathy you said, "It's either your skull is squeezing your brain too tightly and denying it blood supply or your brain is 20 steps to the left."

Then Darkchild64 replied, "Forgive me if I got u wrongly,"........................ I mean really !! like really! The unnecessary burden he placed on you, I mean forgiveness is not an easy thing to do. It is hard. He glibly want you to forgive him for the crap he placed on you.

I pray that you will use your power to forgive this dude Sir. I simply cant laugh again today, I am a recovering Laughee. Not the laughor.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 5:50pm On Jan 08, 2018
darkchild64:
I don't think I can afford the time to answer ur question,[color=#770077][/color] no offense
Lol, Haaaaahaa hic, Hic, ha rolling on the ground laughter. Please stop it Darkchild64, I am sitting alone in an Auber Taxi, my stomach is cramping from uncontrollable laughter. The big burly Taxi driver is looking at me offended as if I am mocking him. I am unable to explain, because the more I try to explain the worse it looked, the louder the badly timed outbreak of totally uncontrollable laughter became. Shew shew. Hic haaa..... I apologize.

As I was getting out of the Auber taxi at my destination that strangely seemed to take a hell of a lot longer than usual, your words hit my funny bone again "I don't think I can afford the time" Tears were running down from my eyes, as I forced myself not to laugh in my Taxi drivers face, I am not sad, no not in the least but the tears kept flowing as I forced myself to walk away from the Taxi.

Finally alone, I stood against my neighbors wall and let the laughter have its own way. I held my aching jaws and watched as many of my neighbors stared at me surprised or ashamed.

Please stop spreading this indignity Darkchild64, abeg o
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 5:23pm On Jan 08, 2018
butterflyl1on:
If you cannot understand and respond to such a simple question, how then can you understand whatever you are told that is more complex? How then as the adult you are, ask questions and demand answers to them, when you are too lazy to respond to any you are asked?
This Niggas psychotic behavior has recently been coined, The Dawkins Syndrome for good reason. It is alleged that all those Atheists that has completed part 1 of 1 of "Mental Supremacy for Low-level Atheists" which is Richard Dawkins only free online course for gullible Atheists. Those that fail to do the paid courses exhibit exactly the same pre-programmed robotic responses.

Butterflyl1on Sir, I sense your confounded horror that, after you have respectfully and expertly re-programmed Darkchild64's Microchip, the robot still malfunctions and reverts back to its "No answer to give" presets.

With great pride, I can openly say that I have witnessed you help many Niggas and Whites break free from fake "MENTAL SUPREMACY" on many internet platforms over the years. Salute !!!!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 8:29am On Jan 08, 2018
butterflyl1on:
If it doesn't matter to you then why are you harping on it? If it doesn't matter to you then allow his comment remain his own and not you insinuating what he did not even think about least of all talk about.

If you believe in the existence of faeces does that mean you eat it?

There is a reason English language has expressions and there is a reason words are added or removed form sentences. Once a word is added as a qualifier then the meaning is altered drastically such as in this case when he said he believes in their existence ONLY. If you have issues with people who simply believe in the existence of what you do not believe in and you are now trying to pass the buck and assume everyone is like you who neither believes in their existence nor in them then strictly focus on yourself because sciencewatch isn't like you so stop trying too hard regarding something that isn't there.

If my comment above first confuses you, then read it again or even 5 more times for sake of clarity.
Thanks, once again for infusing your profound wisdom so lovingly into a conflict situation to restore DIGNITY to all concerned.

Could it be that 3nim is deliberately testing your powers? Just a thought.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 9:31pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
Whether he believes in them or he believes only in their existence, I believe they are fictional.
Sciencewatch believes in the existence of all the rulers of the universe and creators of Humans?

At first glance actually even referred to his belief in their existence. If I meant otherwise, I believe I might have asked if he SERVED them all.

If he believes in the existence of Krishna...does he also believe that Krishna created him? I don't know
3nim, did you ever make time to speak to, or read about the lives, the rich culture, the warmth and loving communities of those people that believe in the existence of their Gods? Did you care to ask them to explain from their own experiential knowledge?

THERE IS A DEMONSTRABLY SUPERIOR GOD ABOVE ALL OTHER GODS THAT EVERYONE TURN TO WHEN THEY FINALLY FIND HIM.
When they find this truly superior God, He sends them to Jesus the Messiah of this evil world.

At that point in their lives they know for sure that they have arrived at the gates of the kingdom of heaven. Then miracles, signs and awesome wonders become a reality, a normal part of their lives. At this point they know that no other Gods can do what their superior God can do.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 9:16pm On Jan 07, 2018
butterflyl1on:
3nim hasn't been drunk! This is pure mischief is what it is. She is trying to force feed us with what you neither said nor implied simply because her brain has been set on a course with its steering broken off DELIBERATELY.

HOW ON EARTH CAN SOMEONE SAY THEY BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF SOMETHING AND SOMEONE ELSE IS BOW TRYING TO DECISIVELY SAY TO THE ONE WHO MADE THAT COMMENT, THAT WHAT THEY MEANT WAS THAT THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY SAID AND THAT THEY ONLY BELIEVED IN THEIR EXISTENCE.

the height of this deliberate dishonesty is one that no measuring tool can handle.
It is refreshing to see how quick you can detect an ancient corrupt Atheist methodology Buterflyl1on Sir.

Atheists would do better at criticizing material things like space ships, planets like Mars, Nike shoes, the fake medical profession and corrupt scientists.
Atheists should get together and mentally destroy a car like the UNO.

Why would they be so crazy that they are hell bent at destroying the Holy, revered, scared and precious scriptures of world religions especially Christianity?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 9:01pm On Jan 07, 2018
TO ALL WORLD RELIGIONS:

REFUSE TO ANSWER athesits, agnotics, etc questions about your superior faith. You are the head and not the tail. Rather let them answer your deep probing questions.
Ask them over and over to spell out what they have to offer humanity.

Ask Atheists questions like, why do Atheists have no soul/spirit/heart.
Ask why Hitler became a Godhater/Atheist.
Ask what higher moral and ethical values Atheists have to offer humanity.
Ask Atheists why they allowed themselves to be defrauded by crooked scientists to believe they were once fish, then a monkey etc.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 8:56pm On Jan 07, 2018
butterflyl1on:
How old are you boy? Let me ask you a very simple question, as a child did you depend on someone older and wiser than you? As an adult are you totally independent? Do you know everything and can do everything so much so that you have absolutely NO NEED for anyone better, wiser, more intelligent in those things you lack the ability of tackling?

If you already have a child, why is it that your child automatically looks up to you in a pre-programmed manner? Why was your child or yourself born with an already inbuilt dependent nature?

Let's talk about where your wisdom starts and ends and where mine begins.
Ah ha ! Once again a welcoming shining light in another dark tunnel.
Butterflyl1on Sir, yes you will be able to enlighten Darkchild64 here, I may have seriously misunderstood his intentions. I highlighted the red to show that I recognized your amazing ability to hone into the key principle of his worn out Atheist propaganda. I will learn more from you here.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 8:49pm On Jan 07, 2018
butterflyl1on:
3nim hasn't been drunk! This is pure mischief is what it is. She is trying to force feed us with what you neither said nor implied simply because her brain has been set on a course with its steering broken off DELIBERATELY.

HOW ON EARTH CAN SOMEONE SAY THEY BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF SOMETHING, AND SOMEONE ELSE IS BOW TRYING TO DECISIVELY SAY TO THE ONE WHO MADE THAT COMMENT, THAT WHAT THEY MEANT WAS, THAT THEY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY SAID WHEN THEY ONLY BELIEVED IN THEIR EXISTENCE.

the height of this deliberate dishonesty is one that no measuring tool can handle.
I apologize for inferring that the accused was drunk, Butterflyl1on Sir. Pure mischief is in my book a more serious offence than drunkenness and should be dealt with accordingly.

Before sentencing the accused Sir, it will be good to examine relevant evidence. I noticed that the accused suddenly exhibited symptoms of exhaustion and a marked slowness to comprehend the difference between abstract concepts and an UNO motor car.

I thank you again for acting like a shining light in a dark tunnel where I would have been the one sentenced.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 8:30pm On Jan 07, 2018
darkchild64:
If anyone has noticed something about ur arguments it is that u never care to disprove what the post u quote says instead u just bash it,in the post u quoted I made a point about how teaching religion at ones early years play a role in what the person believes as an adult,instead of u to highlight the reason(s) u disagree with what I said u go about talking of atheist propaganda or whatever u term it
Hey stop your nonsense now !! You are good at twisting things to suit your Atheist agenda. I will never fall for your tricks.

Do you want to waste time disproving that a Viper snake is damn poisonous ? I simply bash it !! We all know by now that your use of the worn out propaganda cliche "Childhood indoctrination" is a failed Atheists recruitment marketing ploy.

Consider this;
Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to respect your Mom?

Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to eat healthy?

Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to study and get good grades?

Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to become a mature adult?

Please stop yourself from becoming a moaner, dont falsely accuse your parents of "CHILDHOOD INDOCTRINATION."
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 8:22pm On Jan 07, 2018
butterflyl1on:
This is simple every day English. You are the one trying to say what he neither said nor implied. You were the one who asked him IF HE BELIEVED IN THE EXISTENCE OF OTHER GODS

and he responded by saying that YES HE BELIEVED IN THE EXISTENCE OF OTHER GODS

He never said HE BELIEVED IN THOSE OTHER GODS BUT SIMPLY THEIR EXISTENCE

how does this translate to him believing IN those other gods? How you saw something he never said or implied is amazing to say the least.

Be careful to note that the operative phrase is I BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE and not I BELIEVE IN. EXISTENCE being the qualifying word.
Thank you for clarifying this Sir. 3nim may have been drinking too much during the festive season.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 7:58pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
.

That was really not complex. The third party explanation was unnecessary.

But this is exactly what I'm talking about..you are the one deliberately trying to play with the words.
You believe in a Uno motor but you don't believe in it enough.... It make sense, yes, and kudos to you for your English skills.
Do you want a motor that will last for 17 years or you want the one with the higher horse power? When you want to buy a car, let your belief guide you. lol.
I maintain my position.
Aggg, grrr. English I hate. I dont know where to put the O or the U. I cant explain what i really mean.
Thats why I hoped Butterflyl1on would rather explain.
I feel so bad now that I failed to get the UNO to substitute for belief.

Your position on this issue is respected. I really dont have enough english to deal with it.
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For Sciencewatch? by ScienceWatch: 6:55pm On Jan 07, 2018
Martinez19:
if TB Joshua, being specific as you asked, later said " when you child is 80, just like Moses at the time of his calling back to Egypt, God will use him to christianise Nigeria once and for all and turn the people's heart to God." would you believe him?
Martinez19 son of lucifer !!!

See the miraculous power of Jesus Christ in action. All this was first for the Jews !
Scoan Church Nigeria’s power with the holy Prophet TB Joshua is unstoppable !!

He is just the greatest living and verifiable prophet on earth now.
Scoan Church Nigeria was personally examined by the following highly respected persons;
1) PROMINENT DUTCH THEOLOGIAN PROFESSOR WILLEM J. OUWENEEL ABOUT PROPHET T.B. JOSHUA AND THE SCOAN, LAGOS, NIGERIA. Professor Ouweneel holds doctorates in biology (Utrecht), philosophy (Amsterdam) and theology (Bloemfontein, RSA).
He concluded that his experience at Scoan was awesome.

2) Renowned global evangelist, P.S. Upthegrove’s who had successfully pastored AA Allen’s church as a minister.
He concluded that he was on Holy ground at Scoan.
He recounted how seeing such power demonstrated reminded him of all he had witnessed through ministers of God such as Oral Roberts, AA Allen, William Branham and RW Shambach who he had the privilege to work with and know personally.

3) A church Group of leaders from New Zealand:
Among our group there were three senior pastors, two evangelists and two men leading major Christian work in New Zealand. Between us we had 180 years of ministry.
Our conclusion was that this is truly a work of God.

4) The official Religious Monitoring Group have investigated Joshua and the Synagogue, Church of All Nations and have concluded that he is a man of God.

5) God only reveals His top secrets to those He loves. He revealed the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ to Prophet Isaiah. In the same vein, Jesus Christ revealed who Prophet TB Joshua is to His beloved servant, late Prophet (Dr.) Akin Adewole, shepherd of the Celestial Church of Christ, Opopo Igbala Parish, Ikola Road, Ipaja, Lagos sometime in 1995.
He concluded that TB Joshua is a Prophet of God.

Only an insane or demon possessed person will even attempt to argue with truth that can also be scientifically verified. Although God don’t need science to make Himself known.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 6:41pm On Jan 07, 2018
darkchild64:
If everyone had to attain the age of reasoning before being introduced to religion or even the concept of "God", religion will die off in no time,so u coming here to complain that the term "childhood indoctrination" is a cliché is laughable, religion owes everything to childhood indoctrination
You not thinking as an individual, but has been effectively indoctrinated by Atheists worn out propaganda. You are going round and round in circles with no end in sight. This bad habit is something you have in common with all Low-level unregistered Atheists

Here is a more suitable question for you;
How did the universe come to assume the character which it possesses?
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 6:25pm On Jan 07, 2018
darkchild64:
Show me one of these scientifically verified "evidence"
You are totally confused, You say here, "Show me one of these scientifically verified "evidence." When I offer to show you this evidence you said to me that you dont want real material evidence but rather theoretical evidence. Atheist prefer the deluded game of mental gymnastics so they can conjure up pre-fabricated fictional rebuttals that only entangle themselves further.

I dont have time for your sick games. There are millions of people that are breaking out of the chains of mental slavery and stepping up and higher to embrace the most powerful joy of the ultimate truths of spirituality.

The boundless mind of God can be determined not merely on the basis of right reasoning alone but on the basis of ultra-mystic insight also, the religious doctrines rightly affirms the existence of such a supreme Mind\God.

We are not merely the self-absorbed witnesses of our own impressions but also the co-sharers of a common experience. Despite the relativity of detail in all observations made in time or space, a hill is not a hill to one person and a river to another. Its general identity as a hill is a fact for all observers.

The sensations of millions of men are connected and at least superficially alike for the same physical universe presents itself to all. This connection indicates that they have a common ground. The fact that similar perceptions of the external world exist for others as for ourselves shows that we are all rooted in one and the same constantly perceiving permanent Super-Mind/God.
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 5:36pm On Jan 07, 2018
budaatum:
Yeah? That will be the day!
That day will never come dude, sciencewatch he no gain o. He got no day !
Christianity EtcRe: Closed : Shallow Atheists As Usual Failed Woefully To Destroy These Challenges by ScienceWatch: 5:33pm On Jan 07, 2018
darkchild64:
Meanwhile when I say "SHOW ME YOUR EVIDENCE" it musn't be material, I am simply asking u to provide the reason that makes ur claim correct so if u hesitate to do so, it means that u either have no reason or u re not sure ur reason is good enough
If I show you Abstract/theoretical evidence, considering how very weak your grasp of Esoteric/spirituality is. it will take you years and you will still not know what you are seeing. That is why the Mighty Jesus taught with decisive practical, physical demonstrations.

Enough of that with you dude. You are a God mocker and a lover of mental gymnastics for a mere big-up from ya Homies.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 5:09pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
I'm still trying to settle with the fact that you believe they all exist.

You mean that they all exist in the hearts of their followers or that they are as real as you and I are?? ??
You will one day get used to it. I know that they all exist.
These Gods are as real as you and I. Humans are not as stupid as you wish they were. You can only fool some of the people some of the time.........
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 5:05pm On Jan 07, 2018
darkchild64:
I disagree with u especially on the last statement u made. The fact is that the majority of the world population is religious is because of childhood indoctrination.
but what annoys me most is that the white people taught us to be contemptuous towards our ethnic belief in exchange for their own beliefs I am not saying we should go back to jujuism ,but for me if I don't have any apologies for leaving Christianity.....
Go ahead, disagree all you want. Allow me to make my point again, the education system has been engineered to take students away from the spiritual/esoteric and into the trap of materialism.
We all know by now that your use of the worn out propaganda cliche "Childhood indoctrination" is a failed Atheists recruitment marketing ploy.

Consider this;
Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to respect your Mom?

Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to eat healthy?

Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to study and get good grades?

Would you complain that, you have been indoctrinated as a child to become a mature adult?

Please stop yourself from becoming a moaner, dont falsely accuse your parents of "CHILDHOOD INDOCTRINATION."
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 4:41pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
I hope I will jam unlimited reason, intuition and logic one day. Maybe I'll stop arguing nonsense and my life will change.

You are free to agree.
It is agreed that the truth seeker must split knowledge into two forms:

1) The state of things as they are presented to our five senses.

2) The state of things as they really are in their essential nature.

The first form yields a view based on appearances, whereas the second yields a truer one.
Taken merely by and for itself the practical/materialistic standpoint must necessarily confess that truth is unattainable, but taken as a pointer to the need of an absolute standard of reference. No doubt the first form plays its part in the quest of truth.
The appeal to practical criterions/standards may silence our doubts for a while, about the reality of what is given to us in material experience but it will not solve them.

For to understand reality we must first understand the UNREAL.

The old science said that the physical world is merely a shifting mass of rigid lumps of cold dead matter, of indivisible particles called atoms. But they were asked what was this substance which it named matter, it became somewhat incoherent\dumb.

Science could not explain without admitting that vast unsolved mysteries were involved in the answer. And finally the new twentieth-century facts, which were first discovered out of the apparent emptiness of a vacuumtube and later developed out of experimental research into sub-atomic workings, This forced the old science to shut itself up.
With it went the belief in an ultimate matter which exists in space, changes in time and affords a foundation for the universe.

The new science now openly declares that atoms are not the last word nor matter the last substance. Atoms have been divided and found to be "waves". Waves of what we ask. It is certainly not of matter but of energy, it replies.
A sum of dynamic processes has replaced the old-time storehouse of inert substances.

But beyond the discoveries made by radio-active research was the revolution begun by relativity theory and carried further by quantum mechanics.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 3:52pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
So Krishna is as real as Yahweh is?

I won't disagree with that, what you said about benefits. Religions keep people in check. For example, LESS people decide to kill because it's against God's will.

Still I have a problem with culture/ethnicity and religion. They both offer important benefits to the world but remember... Culture/ethnicity: the civil war.
Religion: Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and Book haram.
Yes, Krishna, Allah, Baal, Zeus, Brahma and Vishnu are as real as Yahweh. Before we get into the complexity of religious doctrines, we must examine what each God is offering his followers and humanity at large. Every culture that is strongly tied to their religion is powerful.

All Gods including Satan want to be served/worshiped before its unique spiritual/esoteric manifestations or blessing appear to its followers. There is nothing for nothing.
The question is; what are those unique blessings ?

Atheists has been conned by corrupt scientists.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch:
darkchild64:
if I may come into this argument,I would first of all have to say I admire something u said " THE BIG QUESTION IS,WHICH ONE(RELIGION) WOULD I CHOOSE", sciencewatch u would agree with me that 99% percent of religious people don't choose their religion but rather follow the religion of the family and society they where born into,the few that bother to do a thorough check on the history of their religion.......
All religions offer humanity or an individual more power than if they were to go it alone. NEVER ROB OTHERS OF THIS BENEFIT.

The history may have some entertainment value, but it is the present practical benefits that cement our beliefs and open our minds to go deeper.

It is the world-wide breakdown of family and society that floods a young mind with serious doubts. Their religion at birth may serve its purpose, but the education system has been engineered to take them away from the spiritual/esoteric and into the trap of materialism.
Christianity EtcRe: Nonsense Of The Trinity. by ScienceWatch: 2:58pm On Jan 07, 2018
asuustrike2009:
"But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken" ( Matthew 12:36)

"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. "Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.( Matthew 12:31-32)

Hebrews 10:26-29
Wow, Very powerful. Unfortunately, Martinez19 and his tribe who evolved by accident because of two planets that crashed millions of years ago, They will come and mock what you posted all the while pretending to want to know more. They will mock all those that are created by a might God.

Take note they dont start these topics to learn anything. It is their way of insulting and mocking the revered, precious, holy scriptures of world religions. It is their sick way of recruiting the unwary into Satanism. It is their deluded way of boosting their sick egos.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 12:54pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
He gave himself a hard time... I'm still shocked about your BELIEFS, which are the things you believe in...the existence of other Gods other than Yahweh. Shocking.

I would have expected you to say all other gods were fables and man-made..but you believe they exist.

Still think you're just saying that.
No I am not joking with you on such serious issues. It will help your progress out of the confines of Materialism/matter if you briefly suspend your dependence on limited LOGIC, reason can take you a little further, Intuition will take you to the top.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 12:49pm On Jan 07, 2018
3nim:
The words don't actually change my perception of your answer. I still believe you are joking about believing in the EXISTENCE of all the gods, of all religions.
Let me repeat, "I believe in the EXISTENCE of all the gods, of all religions.

All religions offer important benefits to humanity. The big question is, which one would I choose. Which one offers the greatest benefits to a dying world, a suffering humanity?
Christianity EtcRe: A Question For Sciencewatch? by ScienceWatch: 12:32pm On Jan 07, 2018
Martinez19:
Oh dear, the theists as usual have derailed any thread set to expose them. They have derailed so much to confuse readers. I wanted to assess how much faith they have in their prophets.
You and your Satanic tribe never wanted to assess anything. Your corrupt motive as usual as seen on your other topics, was to mock everything that is revered, precious and holy to billions of decent people.

I have too much experience dealing with people like you. I know the true source of your powerful mockery. I will stop here and allow others to explain to you, how to know the true source of ones actions and the consequences.

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