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butterflyl1on:
This ridiculous thread was only set to expose your foolishness which even you attested to by pleading with the mods to take down your moronic thread.

How would you ever imagine you could expose what you have no information about? Abi boil dey do you for brain?

How much faith do you have in atheism? I am sure in a few years from now you would gladly abandon your fellow atheists as you migrate to a new found faith as the disjointed fellow you are.

Butterflyl1on Sir, you are like a great detective. You found that Atheist's passionate plea for help. In the same way they cant believe in God, I cant believe what I saw before my very eyes.

Martinez19 was begging to the Mods to please close down this topic. He could not take the heat, I kindly asked him to stand in the shade. He had a spiritual attack that galvanized him to reach out for help and end his misery. I really admire him for reaching out, it says that he is evolving spiritually. Sir, this is certainly an historic event to witness and will be recorded as "THE DEATH OF SATANIC ATHEISM."

Martinez19's decisive actions proved the beginnings of what you said Butterflyl1on, "In a few years from now you would gladly abandon your fellow atheists as you migrate to a new found faith."

butterflyl1on:
He said and I quote


"YES, I BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF ALL THE GODS"

He did not say HE BELIEVED IN THEM but said HE BELIEVED IN THEIR EXISTENCE. Do note the difference. This is how people misconstrue comments so easily.

I wonder if 3nim is deliberately mixing the awesome Abstract with the mundane Material in the same pot?

Thanks for stepping in to help out Butterflyl1on. You really good at explaining complex issues.

I will tell 3nim more about my beliefs and how they work for me. I believe in the existence of an Uno Motor car, but I wont own one because I dont believe in it enough. I choose one that matches my beliefs about cars.
I believe in the existence of Kentucky, but I will not buy from them.
I believe in the existence of Krishna, but I wont worship there.

3nim:
Then what do you call yourself?

I'd say confused lol

Because I believe you're only joking . You're just saying that. You don't believe in all the gods; You definitely don't believe in Krishna. You don't believe that he created you and that he loves you and that he will return on his white horse to save you. You don't believe in no blue-skinned Gods. You don't believe in gods with multiple (too many) body parts.

I don't think I ask questions here to entertain myself. But I know that you can be very entertaining lol

It is good to see you still have your sense of humour intact 3nim.
On a serious note, I do believe everything about Krishna. I do believe everything about the Prophet Mohammed and their God Allah. I do believe everything about the native Gods etc. I do believe everything about Jesus and his God. I do believe everything about the God Zeus. I AM A BELIEVER !! 3nim, why give the esteemed Butterflyl1on a hard time on this?

You do agree that humans have free choice. Now given the vast number of Gods, which one would I choose?

If you 3nim, were given a choice between a basic Ford motor vehicle and a Rolls Royce, which one would you choose and why?

3nim:
Then what do you call yourself?

I'd say confused lol

Because I believe you're only joking . You're just saying that. You don't believe in all the gods; You definitely don't believe in Krishna. You don't believe that he created you and that he loves you and that he will return on his white horse to save you. You don't believe in no blue-skinned Gods. You don't believe in gods with multiple (too many) body parts.

I don't think I ask questions here to entertain myself. But I know that you can be very entertaining lol

3nim, you asked me, "Hold on, you believe in the existence of all gods, of all religions?" then I replied to you in bold gold letters,
"YES, I BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF ALL THE GODS"

Now you know as well as I or Butterflyl1on or Vaxx or Kingebukasblog, that all these Gods exist, but now the question could be which one do I choose to worship

superhumanist:
Wow. I can't believe it. I actually agree with you on certain points.

1. Time is an abstract concept.

2. It is natural to oppose spirituality that one has never experienced.

3. Humans think with time.

But the main point is that time doesn't exist. Humans think with time and distance. "it will take me 2 hours to walk one kilometre". Both the hours and the kilometre do not exists. What exists is our body mass and the road that stretches for a kilometre

If you dont mind, I would like to expand on your Point No.2 - It is natural to oppose spirituality. Consider deeply the reasons why some people "oppose spirituality" and one will see that what is found, reveals the terrible weakness of deep rooted prejudice while the truth is easy to find and evidence easily available.

About your main point, I will try to avoid mental gymnastics here for the benefit of many. For something to exist for an individual he must first become aware of it. Therefore time does exist because the individual is aware of it. Our minds have the power to change time, making it feel longer or shorter even though a mechanical watch tells us we are wrong.

The principles of Relativity must be kept upper most in our minds when considering Space and Time or even the experiential spiritual knowledge of individuals. You say, "it will take me 2 hours to walk one kilometre but both the hours and the kilometre do not exists."
It is with respect for the principles of relativity that I chose to answer your profound question like this;
You would not be able to give an account of your walk, if you did not include the "Non existent" time and distance.

When you present your conclusion which is - " What exists is our body mass and the road that stretches for a kilometre." With all due respect to you, you should try to correct it as follows;
What exists is our body mass and the road. Remember, you said kilometers dont exist.

Why do the last hundred metres of a 20km walk seem much longer than the first hundred metres when the impressions made on the senses of sight and touch are still the same as before, it is still as accurate ?
The answer is that the tired muscles have suggested a different series of exaggerated sensations, which produce the illusions
of magnified movement and lengthened duration.

The sensations, the way we feel about it we must remember, are mental.

hopefulLandlord:
educate us please

Whats up my Nigga? I really hope Yall in it to win it. Did ya'll see that scary dude like like Johnydon22 push against his scared servant Martinez19?

Has ha. He assaulted him with big word dude.
I hit Martinez19 with "non sequitur and forge"
Damn bro, I like heard the other dudes heart cracking man, I heard his heart crack.

budaatum:
I did engage him. Started a whole thread for the purpose. It now serves as a reminder of how he reasons. I just wish a link to it could be added to his profile so people know what they dealing with. I now think a link to this thread should be added too.

I don't care for that Nigga. He let you start that thread man. Na that nigga got balls ok. Let me add it to his damn profile dude.

Martinez19:
I see that sciencewatch is so confident of the genuity of TB Joshua and here is my question for him:

Suppose you have a wife, she got pregnant and you know that you are not responsible for the pregnancy but TB Joshua told you "God is at work through the Holy spirit as in the case of Jesus's birth . God wants to achieve something through your child." would you believe TB Joshua?

HopefulLandord, HardMirror, Johnydon22, hahn, 1Sharon, 0temSapien, Nilfeim, proudgorgeousga, Tozara, Catfishbilly, donffd, adepeter2027, decide, dalaman, analice107, Butterflyl1on, felixmoron, sciencewatch

Martinez19 son of lucifer, I see you have opened another topic to mock the Holy Spirit as well. All I will say to you at this stage of your game is that YOU MUST GUARD YOUR OWN SPIRIT. Your Atheist troops should flock to it in seconds. here is the link https://www.nairaland.com/4274039/nonsense-trinity#63957330

You want to mock a mighty man of God, such as the holy prophet TB Joshua, therefore I kindly offer you enough verifiable facts for you to consider, else this battle wont be fair.

It is well known that the phenomenon of men being used by the Almighty without human tuition is not isolated to the instance of the mighty Pastor TB Joshua. A thorough biblical exploration would reveal to you that many of God’s generals are with no record or register of human mentorship.

Who was the mentor of Jeremiah, who the Bible says God called right from his mother’s womb?

Who was the mentor of John the Baptist, sent from above to prepare the way for the Saviour?

Who was the mentor of Apostle Paul, who was blinded on the road to Damascus while intent on the destruction of Christians, subsequently to become a leading figure in New Testament Christianity?

What about Moses, Elijah or King David? Human backing and tuition are clearly not a qualification for divine assignments.

What then is the premise for God hater/Atheists and church leaders today to demand proof of mentorship as a seal of apostleship? Can this assertion be attributed to the application of biblical principles, or to personal misgivings and prejudice?

Why has the Nigerian Pentecostal church and Atheists chosen to adopt a stance on a particular person that contradicts and conflicts with scriptural authority and experience? For Atheists it is the fear of a creator God revealed. For church leaders It appears to be a case of addressing private qualms and jealousies under the guise of Christian comradeship and censorship, misguiding and incensing millions of followers against TB Joshua and projecting the image of a warring and divided church in the process.

The president of PentecostalFN, Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor has consistently remained one of Joshua’s most vicious critics, even expelling any PentecostalFN members who attempt to associate with TB Joshua.

But this is not at all unusual, Jesus himself said that this is to be expected by his true disciples/pastors.

Martinez19, I hope you have a wife who will support you now.

butterflyl1on:
Sciencewatch come and see another contender for the most stupid thread in 2018 award.

This guy started contesting early so he can beat all comers.

Aaaah great Sir. I see the bewitched contender that dont even know why he has dreams or emotions, now want to tackle the full might of the Holy Spirit, Jesus and the creator God.

OMG !!!

Martinez19:
Jesus, the father and holy spirit are one but yet only the father knows the hour of the rapture. How can Jesus and holy spirit be one with God?

Martinez19, son of Satan. Give yourself a break, you have shown repeatedly that you are unable to think in the abstract, if you know what I mean Nigga. First prove that you can think abstractly then you will helped by many that are brilliant at it.

I wont dare help you because I know, that you know, that I know, that you are a God hater and mock for comical sexual relief.

You have written many topics that your Satanic Atheist peers enjoy with you. Are you in it to win it Nigga ?

butterflyl1on:
This ridiculous thread was only set to expose your foolishness which even you attested to by pleading with the mods to take down your moronic thread.

How would you ever imagine you could expose what you have no information about? Abi boil dey do you for brain?

How much faith do you have in atheism? I am sure in a few years from now you would gladly abandon your fellow atheists as you migrate to a new found faith as the disjointed fellow you are.

Yes Martinez19 and co has a boil for a brain oo. But the truth be told Buttrflyl1on Sir, Atheists have an erroneous belief that Christians are easy picking, because of the "Turn the other cheek" story that is totaly out of context in these situations.

That is why they with their Atheists leaders the Satanic Richard Dawkins and Harris chose to target Christianity. These mother fuckers have Christianity in their cross-hairs.

Christianity rise up, you are the head and not the tail. Examine the promises of the mighty Jesus for your life. Science dont even come near it. Dont bow down to these weak scientific gods that will operate and cut you up repeatedly with no refunds as they mess you up.

Leave the faith in science for the Atheists. Your God is mightier !!!

Martinez19, it is time for you to man up. I have lots of questions for you as the new leader of the Lost Atheist tribe. Get ready as I give you scientifically verifiable evidence of the man that you mock.

The mind-blowing scientifically verifiable miracles and highly commendable charitable works are happening in his church and around the world is attested to by all that has witnessed or experienced it, but demented Atheists/God haters and fake pastors can’t seem to fathom how a man so mightily gifted could have attained such a level without human tutorship and training.

All this cannot be explained by the Atheist logic and lectures of theological training, they readily write him off as demonic and diabolic. Surely, they think a man of God of such stature and status could not just spring up without the approval and appraisal of some top-notch Christian leaders? Thus, they have proclaimed to all willing to listen that anyone who associates with TB Joshua does so to their own folly, be him a president or pauper, simply because they have adopted a strong position without investigating its foundational validity.

Check this Martinez19, your troop of Niggas are getting like free education, do you dig dude? Historical evidence proves that the phenomenon of men being used by the Almighty God without human tutelage is not isolated to the instance of the mighty Pastor TB Joshua.

Martinez19 and co, answer the questions below so readers can see your superior intellect.

A thorough biblical exploration would reveal many of God’s generals with no record or register of human mentorship.

1) Who was the mentor of Jeremiah, who the Bible says God called right from his mother’s womb?

2) Who was the mentor of John the Baptist, sent from above to prepare the way for the Saviour?

3) Who was the mentor of Apostle Paul, who was blinded on the road to Damascus while intent on the destruction of Christians, subsequently to become a leading figure in New Testament Christianity?

4) What about Moses?

5) What about Elijah?

6) What about King David?
Human backing and tuition are clearly not a qualification for divine assignments.

budaatum:
Lol! Basically, he does not exist.

Lol, I agree. Obviously he does not exist, that Nigga losing it man.

Idecievedyou:
am on the wrong page...

No Sir you are welcome. Come watch how Atheists answer all my questions.

True Christians and True Muslims are the head and not the tail as you will soon see here. We bow down to no corrupt scientific god or to their creator called NO-god.

Martinez19:
I regret have anything to do with this guy
He is not alright. He needs a doctor.

Martinez19, have you heard about the shocking allegations that a 22yr German study found that Atheism is a mental disease. Your behavior and others here strongly point to some truth in that.

You are a sicko because you start mocking the holy prophet TB Joshua, then when you get the reaction you deserve, you cry like a baby shouting , "I regret having anything to do with this guy." "He is Mad" I am innocent. I have met many criminals that do exactly that.
Grow up.

Martinez19:
As usual, derailing by stupid theists. Mynd44 abeg come close this trend. I have once again seen with my eyes what brain rot descends on people.

You are too blind to see your own brain rot. We can all see your evil plan with your poorly written OP. You want to gather your sick troops to mock a mighty man of God such as the holy prophet TB Joshua.

The heat is on, now you bother the Mods to clean up you mess. They also know that dudes like you have a lot to learn about life. Dont mock the holy doctrines and authentic religious leaders.

You are not even good enough to polish that mans shoes. Why dont you go watch Pornography for comical sexual relief. Dont gamble with your soul Martinez19, no amount of illusionary Atheist friends are worth it. Dont take my pointed advice lightly.

hopefulLandlord:
incase anyone is wondering, this is the link to the post https://www.nairaland.com/4272376/question-sciencewatch#63940875

Thats kind of you. I will go check it now. Whats up about mentioning the holy Prophet TB Joshua dude?

Martinez19:
I see that sciencewatch is so confident of the genuity of TB Joshua and here is my question for him:

Suppose you have a wife, she got pregnant and you know that you are not responsible for the pregnancy but TB Joshua told you "God is at work through the Holy spirit as in the case of Jesus's birth . God wants to achieve something through your child." would you believe TB Joshua?

I know your sly tricks very well by know Martinez19. You mention Prophet TB Joshua, who a far greater man than you will ever be to draw God haters who flock like poo flies to a ball of poo, for likes and views.

Now you answer this question after I give you some background;

Whatever stance God haters has taken on the credibility of TB Joshua, the world famous pastor of The Synagogue Church of All Nation’s in Lagos, Nigeria – one fact remains indisputable, TB Joshua's is an incredible journey surrounded in Godly mystery and being written in history.

The holy Prophet TB Joshua is easily the most vilified pastor in the world, especially Africa, yet by far the most sought after. He is the hope of multitudes and yet the headache of Atheists/God haters and religious bodies, who have vehemently disowned him but can’t seem to ignore him.

TB JOshua is a living drama being watched the world over, as time’s steady course continues its revealing discourse on truth and authenticity.

Martinez19, the new leader of the lost tribe of Atheists, answer this simple question;
What is it about the holy Prophet TB Joshua that has actually brought such outright condemnation and renunciation by Atheists and pastors ?

dalaman:
Thanks for the link cos I was lost. I don't read any of his nonsensical thrash so was lost on what Jonny wrote. I had to read his post for the first time in a while to be clear and laughed hysterically. The guy is literally mad.

You are lying as usual when you say you never read it. I saw you peeping. I saw you moniker pop up. You lying monkey.
But It is good to see that you had a good laugh. You coming right.

Martinez19:
if TB Joshua, being specific as you asked, later said " when you child is 80, just like Moses at the time of his calling back to Egypt, God will use him to christianise Nigeria once and for all and turn the people's heart to God." would you believe him?

QUESTIONS FOR SCIENCEWATCH.

Are the miracles in the mighty SCOAN real? I mean really real?

Does those miracles match the gospels? Do the mighty Jesus promise those blessings to all those people coming from around the world?

Is it true that even Muslims, Jews, doctors, military personeel, police etc all get healed when they come to Jesus through His servant TB Joshua?

A QUESTION FOR SCIENCEWATCH.

Are the miracles of Jesus real. I mean like really real, I mean like for real dude.

Martinez19:
if TB Joshua, being specific as you asked, later said " when you child is 80, just like Moses at the time of his calling back to Egypt, God will use him to christianise Nigeria once and for all and turn the people's heart to God." would you believe him?

It is with interest and sadness that I see how foolish you are Martinez19. You are told by a very decent person that you must ask real questions. You are imitating the way Atheists stain their small minds to twist a question into a book.

dalaman:
Pls stop tagging me in any post that has to do with sciencewatchhhhhhhhhh. I don't read his post, I can't read his post and I will never read any of his post. Once I get any mention and I see its from him, I don't read the post. I will never read anything from him. I will never read anything from him.

Ok OK, calm down. Dont panic dude. My post here is not for you, but for highly enlightened minds that is unafraid of the unknown. Are you afraid to sleep in the dark Dalaman?

We all know that corrupt scientists are afraid, very afraid to use words like God, or spiritual. But careful checkout their thinking below;

"It is through mutually-acting karmic processes that this universe becomes possible. The World-Mind/God brings forth its general world-images not by any accidental fact but by their natural continuity as the consequences of all those that have previously existed. They are a continuation of all the remembered world-images which have appeared before, but modified and developed by their own mutual
inter-action. The God/World-Mind makes the universe by constructively thinking it. But it does not think arbitrarily. The thoughts arise of their own accord under a strict law."

"It must be emphasized that on this view the universe constitutes a self-actuating system, although it must equally be understood that the system itself depends on a God/World-Mind for its own continued existence and continuous activity.. All the karmic forces
and thought-forms carry on their mutual activities, intertwine, inter-act and evolve of their own accord in the presence of the God/World-Mind just as plants grow of their own accord in the presence of sunlight. But it is to that very presence that they owe their own sustenance and existence."

But it is to that very presence that they owe their own sustenance and existence. Mmmm, I can just imagine some arrogant plants that claim they exist independently. The Op has intertwined my so-called wife with Dalaman's birth. That make me think hey. Wink.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO he is indeed reporting his own thread for being a very stupid one. He is even begging the MOD to come and take down his thread

Let's look at the stupid thread created by a moronic individual and laugh some more

LOL, Thanks to you I got more laugh per click from this horror comedy. This history making stupid Thread is indeed sad because the OP really wanted to ask the following question but was under threat from other envious Atheists ;
I think the OP wanted to ask, "Suppose you did not have a wife, she got pregnant and you know that you are not responsible for the pregnancy but TB Joshua told you "God is at work through the Holy spirit as in the case of Dalamans birth?"

Now this question is much more complex than the OP's original because Dalaman's birth and my so-called wife is called into question.
What is your learned take on this Butterflyl1on Sir?

dalaman:
Pls stop tagging me in any post that has to do with sciencewatchhhhhhhhhh. I can't read his post and I will never read any of his post.

I will never read anything from him. If only he knows that I don't read anything from him,

Here we see how afraid Low-level Atheists are of each other. Dalaman feels threatened and want to let other Atheists know that he wont betray them to Sciencewatch. It is alleged that Sciencewatch went around asking Atheists to avoid mentioning him because of Dalamans pleadings.

Read Dalaman's confession above to his interrogators carefully. It is terrifying. My hairs raised! I wanted to jump over cyber walls to rescue him.

On the other Hand Atheist history was made early today, when another unregistered Atheist Martinez19 wanted to commit Topic Suicide, Yes he contacted the mods early today and asked them to blow-up his hard-earned topic because he could not believe that Sciencewatch answered his trick question. OMG !!!

What is happening right at the start of 2018 ?

darkchild64:
So u even swear, what a decent Christian u are

Aaaah, forgive me for offending you darkchild64 aka Nobody aka Jean1128.

You are suddenly very sensitive when I say to a troubled Satanic Atheist to "Fuxck off my mention." But you have asked a very decent Christian Nairalander, "DOES YOU GOD HAVE A DICK."

Lord have mercy !!

Martinez19:
I see that sciencewatch is so confident of my genuity

Suppose you did not have a wife, she got pregnant and you know that you are not responsible for the pregnancy but TB Joshua told you "God is at work through the Holy spirit as in the case of Dalamans birth .

0temSapien, Nilfeim, proudgorgeousga, Tozara, Catfishbilly, donffd, adepeter2027, decide, dalaman, analice107, Butterflyl1on, felixomor,

No problem, great question worthy of respect and admiration. Your questin can best be answered scientifically because science is you god. The other one is called NO-god. Hello NO-god !!!

Martinez19, scientists must have conned you out of the info below, or maybe you were not invited when they had chats about the creation. Scientist have reasoned, " if philosophically, the notion of a sudden first creation is a hard to grasp assumption, the related notion of the possibility of creating something out of nothing is equally hard. But the believers in a Deity made in man's magnified image ascribe the genesis of the universe to just such an act. This could be true if I did not have a wife Sir.

Looked at from the outside, the universe comes forth out of nothingness and passes away into nothingness. But looked at from inside, there has always been an eternal hidden reality in its background. This reality is God.
The world is only its manifestation. For if every effect is previously contained in its cause and that again is confined in what preceded it, the chain goes back and back and stops only when it stops with the source of all ideas—God."

Thus God embraces all things but is itself embraced by none. Hence mentalism/spiritualism teaches that the universe has the same origin as any idea, that is, in and for a mind; therefore the correct way to regard the relation between the universe and its originator is to see it as being similar to the relation between any human idea and the mind in which it is begotten. The World-Mind/ God does not need to "create" the universe out of nothing when it can bring it to birth out of its own self. And as a mental principle it does this by projecting the world as its idea. The world is its self-projection.

There you have it Dalaman, I am no responsible for that pregnancy.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO he is indeed reporting his own thread for being a very stupid one. He is even begging the MOD to come and take down his thread

Let's look at the stupid thread created by a moronic individual and laugh some more

Sir, it is many hours since the demented Martinez19 made that SOS call to the Mods to destroy his own thread, that he worked so hard for. Someone whispered to me that this Tread is Martinez19's 2018 masterpiece as he bragged that he will get a whopping 99,000 views in one week.

Now why would he make history by being the first Atheist to destroy their own crap threads? Does he suddenly want to spite himself ?

butterflyl1on:
They can never close their mouth long enough to properly chew the spiritual esoteric food so it can be nutritious to them. How can they when 24/7 and 365 all they do is bark up the wrong tree.

Hahhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa! that is true but sooo funny. Can you even imagine Dalaman sitting in a posh restuarant and chewing on spiritual esoteric food? I wont believe it till I get all the evidence.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO let me try and analyse this.
Have you seen a bully before? Their strength is virtually all in their bark. The louder they shout the more they think they are putting terror in their target. The harder they beat their chest and flex their muscles the more they feel "the watchers" get scared.

That is until "the watchers" and their targets begin flexing their own muscles and also raising their own voice.

Thank you Sir. You have presented a very deep probing analyses indeed. My heart goes out to the perpetrators of noise pollution. The consequence of your analysis paints a picture of criminal lawlessness because of stringent Municipal by-laws against noise.

When you say "the louder they shout" I interpret it to mean the big words they use to explain simple things, like bragging for Bling Bling.
Is it also OK for me to assume that when you say "they beat their chest and flex their muscles the more they feel "the watchers" get scared? You actually mean that they beat me up with big, heavy words until I back down and get scared.
Yes I agree, Low-level Atheists have scared me and beaten me up with big heavy words Sir.

Do you know what Sir, the strangest thing is that after getting a wordy beating, I realize that Atheist dont know the meanings of those words that they beat me up with.

butterflyl1on:
LMAO let me try and analyse this.
Have you seen a bully before? Their strength is virtually all in their bark. The louder they shout the more they think they are putting terror in their target. The harder they beat their chest and flex their muscles the more they feel "the watchers" get scared.

That is until "the watchers" and their targets begin flexing their own muscles and also raising their own voice.

When this happens you will suddenly realise that the so called bully was only full of hot air all along and would turn into a bingo all of a sudden and tuck their tail between their legs and start crying and whimpering in distress.

This is what is happening here. They complain about the most vocal and most confrontational theists and applaud the soft spoken and reclusive theists because they see no challenge in those ones.

Study the approach of those they are complaining about and telling their ilk to avoid at all costs, you will see that they are the ones they view as most confrontational to their bullying ways.

AAaaah haa ! I think I got it Butterflyl1on Sir. I must first apologize to you for spelling Akintom's name wrong. That is an affront to Atheists.

Now on to your synopisis of a cowardly atheist. Ok you explained that their "bark is worse than their byte" or they have a very strong bark right ? Mmmmm, I noticed that low-level unregistered Atheists have a very complicated bark Sir. One can almost say it is a highly pretentious bark. Could that explain their inability to chew properly on spiritual/esoteric and simply abstract concepts ?

I like your scientific description which says, "the Atheist bully is full of HOT AIR." That makes sense to me. I can just picture them floating high up in their HOT AIR balloon with all the weights lying on the ground and cannot descend. Mars here I come is the song they were singing.

Butterflyl1on Sir, I agree with the findings of your awesome Psychological investigation into Atheists "AVOIDANCE SYNDROM." PLease do make an entry in your Psychology Journal for future generations.