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Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 2:18pm On Jan 03, 2018
3nim:
Plus, allowing the Holocaust happen only made him more mysterious. cool And you know, the more mysterious you are, the more followers you get- It's a way of letting your creations KNOW that you created them and require their never-ending praise. It's the best way. Surely Better than telling them yourself.
No, No No. You are wrong 3nim !! The Holocaust never made God more Mysterious. The Holocaust made Atheists famous and mysterious. After the evils of the Holocaust, atheism became famous and grew. Its adherents worshiped the power of death and God was seen as a weaker power to be despised.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 2:10pm On Jan 03, 2018
hakeem4:
okay sir mr sciencewatch why did Yahweh not stop adolf hitler from killing the Jews. I believe he was probably looking after other planets
Ok Hakeem4, you go first. Answer this as best you can. Will an atheist/agnostic punish a fornicating/masturbating goat?

Also tell Christians, Why did the Atheist chicken cross the road?
Christianity EtcRe: The Evangelical Movement Is Filled With Evil And Demonic Lies And Propaganda by ScienceWatch: 2:08pm On Jan 03, 2018
Continue your work Sir, it is thousands of ambitious fake pastors without Holy Spirit anointed power that spread conspiracies for personal gain.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 1:38pm On Jan 03, 2018
3nim:
The double standards are strong. Very strong. Atheists can only be evil. Nothing good ever comes out of their lives.

I'm sure if we caught a well-known pastor enjoying child porn now you'd give a very powerful explanation.
There is no room for double standards 3nim. A lot of good also came out of Hitlers life. He made many of his Gestapos very rich for a while. Closely examine Atheists post and you will see why their numbers are dropping like a puncture balloon. It is now only Christianity/Islam and blogs that give these dude a last grip on hope. Watch closely and see that their topics lack vigor and conviction.

I asked here, What have Atheists got to offer an evil world. What solutions do they bring to the table?
Atheists/agnostics/God haters etc has to date provided very destructive solution such as, child pornography, killing of unborn babies, child prostitution, child trafficking, child marriage, child molestation. Men marrying men could be their focus for 2018.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 1:37pm On Jan 03, 2018
3nim:
The double standards are strong. Very strong. Atheists can only be evil. Nothing good ever comes out of their lives.

I'm sure if we caught a well-known pastor enjoying child porn now you'd give a very powerful explanation.
There is no room for double standards 3nim. Closely examine Atheists post and you will see why their numbers are dropping like a puncture balloon. It is now only Christianity/Islam and blogs that give these dude a last grip on hope. Watch closely and see that their topics lack vigor and conviction.

I asked here, What have Atheists got to offer an evil world. What solutions do they bring to the table?
Atheists/agnostics/God haters etc has to date provided very destructive solution such as, child pornography, killing of unborn babies, child prostitution, child trafficking, child marriage, child molestation. Men marrying men could be their focus for 2018.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 1:18pm On Jan 03, 2018
jean1128:
bro let's live copy and paste for now and finish with the reason u gave me
Stop moaning Jean1128 ! here is the link by Dnaz that will give you answer that you have been unable to get till now.
https://www.nairaland.com/4267180/evangelical-movement-filled-evil-demonic
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 1:11pm On Jan 03, 2018
DoctorAlien:
Is that all you have to say?
DoctorAlien, have mercy on Martinez19, he is like an untrained perimeter security guard.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 1:06pm On Jan 03, 2018
hakeem4:
First of all there are some people who claimed that the holocaust never happened. But let me assume he wanted all Jews to go back to their land

Maybe we can ask kingebukasblog
Let me categorically state that the esteemed Kingebukasblog will never be seen on a topic that only strokes the arrogant egos of Atheists. He has far too many important things to deal with.

Why did Atheists fail so miserably when Kingebukasblog offered them a chance to prove that their NO-god exits?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 1:00pm On Jan 03, 2018
jean1128:
look bro,like I said before the essence of this thread is not to start an argument on who is superior between atheists and christians. Atheists do not believe in God,but christians do and am asking a simple question IF "GOD" IS ALL LOVING,ALL POWERFUL, AND ALL KNOWING like christians and theists claim then why do u think he allowed the holocaust to occur.
However ever since u entered this thread u have made no attempt to address the question,rather u have been throwing jabs on non christians, this is not the essence of this thread,there are various threads which suit ur argument please go there and post ur stuff,but if u want to say something here then let it be in line with the topic,no one is forcing u to comment after all.Besides the post DoctorAlien made have been rebutted by me why don't u make an attempt to disprove the reasons I gave
So that is your problem, you want to question God? You certainly are arrogant. Read DoctorAlien properly. Also read the incredible topic by Dnaz.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 12:53pm On Jan 03, 2018
DoctorAlien:
WORD, BROTHER. WORD.

These are precious truths that came to us at such awful costs. Far more precious than all the riches in the world. These truths are not to be cast out to the swine of skepticism as they can never recognize its value.

But for sake of those who are genuinely searching for answers, I have written these things. May God have mercy on all of us.
Mmmm, I see you display the attributes of wisdom commanded by the mighty Jesus. When you say, "But for sake of those who are genuinely searching for answers, I have written these things."
You are as sly as a fox and as wise as a Serpent as you move as an innocent among the swine. DoctorAlien, your holy mission will be fully supported by many.

TRUE CHRISTIANS MUST NEVER, NEVER DEFEND THEIR LOVE FOR GOD, JESUS AND THE HOLY GHOST. It is too powerful to defend.

Turn the tables on Atheism, Christians, you have the far superior power. You ask the questions and they must answer.
Ask them what they have to offer humanity. Dig deep, never answer their questions, it is designed to make you loose your precious faith.
Atheists dont want to know God. This is their way of cruel mockery for comic sexual relief.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 12:42pm On Jan 03, 2018
Read this incredible topic : The Evangelical Movement Is Filled With Evil And Demonic Lies And Propaganda by Dnaz 9:05am

If Jesuits are behind the rise of Hitler and the alleged Holocaust of 6 million Jews, why then would the Nazis propagate Jesuit conspiracy theories themselves? Hubert Hermann’s The Jesuit: The Obscurantist without a Homeland Propaganda Pamphlet (1933) inspired the Nazis to declare the Catholic order of the Jesuits “public vermin” (Volksschädlingen) – the same term it used to describe the Freemasons. Its members were persecuted, interned, and sometimes murdered. This pamphlet warned against the Jesuits’ “dark power” and “mysterious intentions.” Hitler murdered Jesuits on account of Jesuit membership.

While persecutions of Jews did happen by mobs throughout the middle ages, the other fact that is rarely revealed was that throughout that same history, the Catholics Papal bull Sicut Judaeis issued during the Middle Ages was the cornerstone that proclaimed Jews are not to be harmed and that Catholics are forbidden on pain of excommunication to force convert Jews or confiscate their property. This was clearly established by Pope Callixtus II in the original bull:

“[The Jews] ought to suffer no prejudice. We, out of the meekness of Christian piety, and in keeping in the footprints or Our predecessors of happy memory, the Roman Pontiffs Calixtus, Eugene, Alexander, Clement, admit their petition, and We grant them the buckler of Our protection.”

It was the Popes who foresaw the potential for pogroms while 18 successive Popes re-affirmed Sicut Judaeis.

Dnaz says, "I challenge anyone to find anywhere any official document where the Catholic Church endorsed Nazism. Catholic opposition to Judaism has always been ideological, never racial."

Yet despite all this, perhaps the most attacked in history is against Pope Pius XII. The more we discover from the annals of history, the more we find archives like what was revealed by Historian Mark Riebling who wrote of Pope Pius XII’s secret to support attempted overthrows of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.
Christianity EtcRe: Stop Trying To Erase Your Mistakes by ScienceWatch: 11:58am On Jan 03, 2018
I just love the OP. Absolutely brilliant.

Let me share my biggest mistake in 2017 with you all.
I realized that my biggest baddest mistake was answering sly Atheist/agnostic questions and topics on God, bible, Jesus, Quran and so on.
I found that most of those so-called religious topics are hoaxes written by cruel atheists/agnostics,etc.

Now it is clear to all that over the past 20yrs, tons of scientifically verifiable evidence of mind-blowing miracles and demonic deliverance as recorded in the Holy Gospels, flooded the world. Even Medical Doctors are flocking for healings were science has failed. They fail a lot as we have seen.

Christians have the power. Dont let Satanic atheist trash you faith in the one and only creator God and Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 11:43am On Jan 03, 2018
jean1128:
well it is obvious that u have no interest answering the question I asked,so I wish u simply vamoose and not digress the topic
Your arrogance suits you. You will be shocked to find that you are the one, that will have to answer all the questions. For too long, Atheists assumed a position of fake superiority and demanded answers the way you do.

Christians have finally woken up to find tons of scientifically verifiable evidence of a mighty God and a loving Saviour, healer and deliverer.
Therefore Atheists/agnostics/God haters etc will answer there own questions while true Christians sit and laugh. Yes there is a time for everything. It is time to laugh.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 11:34am On Jan 03, 2018
jean1128:
well it is obvious that u have no interest answering the question I asked,so I wish u simply vamoose and not digress the topic
Why are you too blind to see that I am on topic? Is your bias too strong?

Why dont you take the time to answer world religions on the question of the Holocaust ? Tell us what Atheists/agnostics think why God allowed the Holocaust?

I emphasize, IT IS 2018 THEREFORE TRUE CHRISTIANS MUST NEVER ANSWER ATHEISTS/AGNOSTICS QUESTIONS ABOUT GOD. Christians have the power.
Use your power and interrogate Atheists on the very same fraudulent topics they post to mock God and for comic sexual relief.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 11:26am On Jan 03, 2018
DoctorAlien:
The very first commandment in this Law stood in the way of what Satan was getting at, which was worship, honor and homage for himself(Isa. 14:13-14). So God had to prove a point. And that point was that only willful obedience to His Law could guarantee happiness and peace to creation.

The unfallen worlds began to watch with keen interest to see how things would go on earth, as it is written "we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men."(1 Cor. 4:9). The Holocaust and other like wickedness are testimonies to what obtains in any system where God's Law is not regarded. You can agree with me that even until now, anything but peace and happiness has reigned on earth since Satan took over and began to influence things as  "the prince of this world", contrary to his claims. The earth is a testimony to the fact that if the Law of God is dethroned, peace and happiness disappear, and injustice is enthroned.

This fact became even clearer to the unfallen worlds when Satan murdered the sinless Son of God. That is why we the children of God long for that Kingdom where God's righteousness reigns supreme. And that Kingdom will come very soon, and sin and sinners shall be obliterated.

So, in summary, God allowed sin(of which the Holocaust was an example) to continue so as to prove to Creation that only willful obedience to His Law would guarantee peace and happiness.
Excellent ! Awesome ! Wow, your moniker should have been Doctorwise.

Unfortunately, Atheists, agnostics, etc will never understand the profound truths you wrote here DoctorAlien. Never, never !!

True Christians are instructed by the bible to, NEVER THROW THEIR PEARLS OF TRUTH TO THE ATHEISTIC/AGNOSTIC SWINE. FOR THEY WILL REND IT AND THEN TURN ON YOU.
Christianity EtcRe: Hey Christians, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your Religion? by ScienceWatch: 11:09am On Jan 03, 2018
3nim:
So, it's another sin? Going to a church of Christ without receiving healing?

That's still not good proof. Have you personally met someone who was sick before receiving healing at this place?

I don't know if you think most people are very gullible...
How sad in this modern day and age that Atheists claim to have never met anyone that has been healed by the many true life giving churches around the world.

Is it because atheists/agnostics, etc prefer to remain blind to higher truth?
This topic would have served a much better purpose if it was titled; Hey Atheists/agnostics, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your believes?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 11:02am On Jan 03, 2018
jean1128:
Let us start by saying that atheists can be good or bad,in the same way that christians can be good or bad,some atheists have done terrible things like Joseph stalin,many others are making remarkable contributions to the society,without the work of Bill Gates am not sure if u could have been able to type that message. Now whether Adolf Hitler who initiated the stuff was a Christian or atheist am not so sure,........

Back to the topic,ur comment didn't attempt to answer the questions if u want to start an argument on that create ur own thread
I REPEAT, GOD IS NOT ON TRIAL !!!

Atheists, Agnostics, etc are on trial.

It is 2018, True Christians must never allow themselves to be fooled and mocked any longer by worn out Atheists tricks and highly flawed mental gymnastics.

The evidence of what a true Christian is can easily be found in the Holy Gospels. These murderers can never claim to be Christians without looking like fraudsters.

CHRISTIANS, BE WARNED. TOPICS LIKE THIS ARE A TRAP.
REFUSE TO ANSWER athesits, agnotics, etc questions about your superior faith. Rather let them answer your deep questions.
Ask them over and over to spell out what they have to offer humanity.

Fake pastors are trembling in their boots as scientifically verifiable evidence confirms world wide that every word that Jesus said is true for those that come to him.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 10:43am On Jan 03, 2018
jean1128:
Meanwhile ur argument is so flawed,I don't even know where to begin
It is because you are choosing to be highly selective, that you say my argument is flawed.
God is not on trial, Atheists are !!!

The German murderers were not Christian. Period.
Read the Holy Gospels to learn what is a Christian. Yes that is a good question to ask Atheists in 2018.

World religions must ask Atheists deep questions, because Atheists, Agnostic, etc are so shallow.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Did "GOD" Allow The Holocaust To Occur by ScienceWatch: 9:01am On Jan 03, 2018
dalaman:
KingEbukasblog says his God has morally sufficient reasons for allowing evil to happen.
Let Atheists provide answers to their own questions on the Holocaust. Atheists killed the JEWS.

World religions must stop answering Atheists/agnostics etc questions as if they are on trial. 2018 has arrived and now Atheists are on trial. They will answer, and world religions will question them.

What have Atheists got to offer an evil world. What solutions do they bring to the table?
Atheists/agnostics/God haters etc has to date provided very destructive solution such as, child pornography, killing of unborn babies, child prostitution, child trafficking, child marriage, child molestation. Men marrying men could be their focus for 2018.
Christianity EtcRe: Hey Christians, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your Religion? by ScienceWatch: 8:16am On Jan 03, 2018
3nim:
So, it's another sin? Going to a church of Christ without receiving healing?

That's still not good proof. Have you personally met someone who was sick before receiving healing at this place?

I don't know if you think most people are very gullible...
3nim, please remember that I Am not trying to convince anyone of the scientifically verifiable evidence that Jesus's promises as written in the Holy Scriptures are all true. Fortunately, there also are other churches where evidence are plentiful.

Corrupt scientist's has deliberately colluded to keep the masses gullible. This evidence is clear for all to see. But millions are freeing themselves as they come across the easy to find evidence of a loving creator and the Biblical fact that it is a SIN to enter a CHURCH of Jesus with a burden and go home the same.

Jesus is not on trial, fake pastors and Atheists/GOD HATERS are on trial now.
Christianity EtcRe: Hey Christians, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your Religion? by ScienceWatch: 10:30pm On Jan 02, 2018
3nim:
Nobody worships a "No-God". Whoever you said started all that talk was making a joke, and if you believed it...then it only makes sense that you're a very good Christian.

Religionists can never really give good proof that God exists.
True Christians must never argue with Athesits, they must simply answer by pointing to powerful sources of scientifically verifiable evidence.

Genuine truth seekers can learn from one of many such sources. Check the link below.

https://www.nairaland.com/3414069/it-sin-sick-people-go
Christianity EtcRe: Ducking Out Of Church by ScienceWatch: 10:06pm On Jan 02, 2018
Sarassin:
Happy New Year to you sir!

Very well put, I think also that self-mortification, be it self-flagellation as practised by Opus-Dei adherents or even self-infliction by Nuns has always been considered a method of transcendence, that is to say the ecstasy of pain.
Yes, those adherents knew that to transcend the imprisonment of materialistic thought the body must be checked. It is well know that for many people, pain or sorrow helps them transcend their crass materialism. Jesus instructed that one must die to oneself, the so-called material body with its senses.
Belief in matter, in short, is belief in a gross but mesmerizing illusion. This is the emphatic message of the true spiritual teaching to a
materialistic age, a message that also yields a warning against the useless pursuit of mere material phantoms.

We destroy the power of a terrifying nightmare or unpleasant dream when we awaken and discover its true spiritual nature. Similarly we destroy the power of illusive matter—this material idol with feet of clay who many blind worshipers have wrongly revered—over the spirit when we awaken into Truth.

Yet the incredible difficulty of this educational task of spirituality may be understood by comparing it with the task of convincing a dreamer
whilst he is still dreaming that his dream environment of houses, persons and conversations is an imagined mental one. But, We who are in the waking state also live in the same imagined mental world. This statement sounds as incredible to us while we are awake, as it would to the hypothetical dreamer in this example.

The foundations of all true religions are spiritual, it is not primarily a secular activity. That is why the best educated speakers/preachers make the worst spiritual leaders. A spiritual leader/pastor etc that cannot demonstrate practical manifestations of spiritual power to match the doctrines it is birthed from, is a fake. He is not a leader, he may be a useful teachers aid to the leader..
Christianity EtcRe: Ducking Out Of Church by ScienceWatch: 9:18pm On Jan 02, 2018
Sarassin:
As you allude, pure spirituality is not mass disseminated and nor should it be, modern lifestyles does not encourage introspection and personal self-development. When you say that religion purifies and lifts the masses from gross materialism to a higher purpose, I disagree, In theory it should but in practice I see no higher proponent of crass materialism and consumptive greed than religion.
You make excellent points here Sarassin, when we examine the reason for the growing "Crass materialism and consumptive greed" we find that most so-called spiritual leaders are deeply entrenched in materialism as opposed to the superiority of spiritualism. They have been defrauded by misleading science and have lost sight of the far superior power of spirituality.

We have witnessed the intellectual degradation of modern mankind as it irritably denounces the truth of spiritualism as illusory and impulsively and stubbornly upholds the errors of materialism as truth!
I am hesitant to add the following for a general viewing, as it is mostly misunderstood, but knowing that you have entered yourself into the spirit realm, I address it to you. Materialism succeeds in solving its numerous minor problems only by shutting its eyes to its single major problem—itself. For nobody has ever seen matter, nobody has ever handled it and nobody has ever known where to detect its presence. Its existence is a bluff.

MATTER thus becomes a merely illegitimate entity in our explanation of the world, it is a fiction which works quite well for the purposes of practical life but becomes meaningless for the purposes of spiritual truth. When such an erroneous notion is seen for what it is it will simply vanish from one's understanding and be seen for what it really is.

Material matter is not what we think it is. It is an illusion. Spirit is the underlying true reality. So the problems in religion can only be corrected by competent spiritual leaders that can teach and also demonstrate the spiritual manifestations of practical power to its students.
Christianity EtcRe: Hey Christians, How Much Can You Really Say To Defend Your Religion? by ScienceWatch: 11:08am On Jan 02, 2018
3nim:
Nobody worships a "No-God". Whoever you said started all that talk was making a joke, and if you believed it...then it only makes sense that you're a very good Christian.

Religionists can never really give good proof that God exists.
Complements of the season to you and your precious family, 3nim.

Let Atheists prove that their NO-GOD exist.
Christianity EtcRe: Ducking Out Of Church by ScienceWatch: 4:54pm On Jan 01, 2018
Sarassin:
Almost every religion provides a method to Divine experience, Tantra alone provides 112 methods and there is a method for everyone. Divine experience or more apt, Gnosis is simply indescribable and anyone who describes it to you is quite simply lying. Many people do not even come back from such an experience, it can shatter the psyche. I could write all the words in the world and still not adequately describe it, it is there only to be experienced, this is why Christians at least on this occasion got it right when they say "no man has seen God".

The limitations of religion in my view are all too clear to see, religion does not change you at your core being.
The problems in many religions are the result of fake pastors with no esoteric/spiritual experience. Their students/congregations can never progress higher than their teacher. Fortunately Sages are not able to fake their way, like most pastors. Their students have a high success rate of entering higher spiritual dimensions.

It may be useful to add here that renunciation is an inner invisible giving-up. It is the only real renunciation and the only one that matters.
Practice of worship, gift, and austerity should not be given up ; it is very necessary ; they are the purifiers of the wise.

Religion has its place. It is necessary, for it purifies the masses and lifts them from a gross materialism to something a much finer.
One need not abandon it in order to find the truth. It acts as a purifier, provided that one perform their religious practices without seeking for any rewards.
Don't ask God to give you anything in return for your worship. Do it out of reverence to a higher Power. Do not, for instance, give your local church a large amount of money, simply because you want God to give you a son for a child. Or you want a promotion etc.
Fake pastor encourage this behavior that keeps keeps the giver from entering the kingdom.
Christianity EtcRe: Ducking Out Of Church by ScienceWatch: 4:30pm On Jan 01, 2018
Sarassin:
Divine experience or more apt, Gnosis is simply indescribable and anyone who describes it to you is quite simply lying. Many people do not even come back from such an experience, it can shatter the psyche.
Awesome, yes no amount education helps one to accurately describe Gnosis. It seems the more education one has the more stupid one sound when attempting what is impossible. Many people has landed in a mental Asylum , messing with esoteric/spiritual.

These people want what ever their eyes see. Filled with insatiable desires, full of hypocrisy, pride, and arrogance, holding unwholesome views through delusion, they work with unholy resolve for what they desire.
This expresses the natural outlook of the materialists. They are deluded, for what they imagine to be real is nothing but a vanishing
dream. Bewildered by many fancies, entangled in the snare of delusion and Bling Bling, addicted to the gratification of lust, they fall into a foul hell and take other innocent people with them.
Christianity EtcRe: Ducking Out Of Church by ScienceWatch: 3:51pm On Jan 01, 2018
Sarassin:
Happy New Year to you sir!

Very well put, I think also that self-mortification, be it self-flagellation as practised by Opus-Dei adherents or even self-infliction by Nuns has always been considered a method of transcendence, that is to say the ecstasy of pain.
Thanks Sarassin, and the same to you and your family.

I agree, the sincere truth seekers are willing to pay a heavy price to enter the deeper esoteric/metaphysical/spiritual paths that lead to the Light.
The mind functions from this borrowed life, taken directly from the divine Light in the heart, otherwise the brain could not work and there
would be neither memory nor knowledge. Ultimately, the mental process obtains its functioning power from the divine life.

Why are all these scriptures written? Primarily not to build churches and mosques, but to guide us to the entrance to the higher path of living. Those great revelations contain an esoteric content also. They were written, in many instances, by the light of the Overself/God.

The secret science is the esoteric wisdom, that which distinguishes illusion from reality. The knowledge of metaphysics may be open to all to learn, but the secret path has been kept for a few. Had it been given to everyone, it woud have unsettled their minds. It has been given only to those who have been ready, and till today has remained a secret. Humanity has changed mentally,

All religions have a very important roll to play. Corrupt scientists or Misplaced Faith in science has left humanity weak and unable to climb the high mountains of esoteric/spiritual experience.
Christianity EtcRe: Ducking Out Of Church by ScienceWatch:
Sarassin:
Almost every religion provides a method to Divine experience, Tantra alone provides 112 methods and there is a method for everyone. Divine experience or more apt, Gnosis is simply indescribable and anyone who describes it to you is quite simply lying. Many people do not even come back from such an experience, it can shatter the psyche. I could write all the words in the world and still not adequately describe it, it is there only to be experienced, this is why Christians at least on this occasion got it right when they say "no man has seen God".

The limitations of religion in my view are all too clear to see, religion does not change you at your core being.
I agree. Religion is only the school where one goes to learn the knowledge that can change ones core being. Until one have brought the mind under control through concentrative meditation and purified the heart of all those prejudices and desires which affect its balance, we can never see the truth, you can never find the the creator. It is so subtle that one must approach it with an undivided mind.

If anything is pulling the mind this way or that, Like envy, jealousy, revenge, hate, lust etc, one cannot find the truth. To refine the Self or to be born again means to train the mind so that it can enter the pure heart into this highly concentrated and balanced state which moves directly towards the goal of finding truth, the Light.

To refine the Self means to free ones self from illusions, to eliminate the false ideas. Mental illusions are the greatest ones. When one have got rid of them, then one can perceive more clearly. Illusion and ignorance dwell in every mind and education alone cannot bring freedom and must go. This is the reason why a teacher says that the ascetic who merely practices self-mortification and does not
free the mind from illusion, does not find the truth/Light/God.

Jesus said, "I am the light of the world."
Christianity EtcRe: I May Now Believe In The Supernatural by ScienceWatch: 11:28am On Jan 01, 2018
Lionbite:
the knife was never switched according to him. He held the knife while his cousin was loosing and unloosing the charm. He even applied less energy the second time compared to the first.
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It amazes me when people criticizes what they dont know. This stabbing charm is childs play in my hometown where i schooled. In my senior secondary school years, guys in my class engage this charm so much it was very common. Immediately they do it, they brag about it the next day in class. You will use all the cutlass in the class captains corner to strike all their body parts it wont enter but bounces back like you hit a car tyre. People that attended public local boys only school in ondo 2003-2006 will testify to this. Sh1t was rampant then
You right this spiritual power is very, very real. Muslims know this, Just go watch a group of muslims do the Rahtiep rituals. They use very sharp swords, knives and other extremely sharp instruments to cut and pierce their bodies without any blood loss or damage. You can see the sword cutting deep into their bodies.

WHEN WILL SCIENCE CATCH UP WITH SPIRITUAL POWER? NEVER EVER !
Christianity EtcRe: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by ScienceWatch: 10:54am On Jan 01, 2018
IT IS NOW 2018. WHAT DOES ATHEISM HAVE TO OFFER HUMANITY?

So far all I see is mental gymnastics with no power to elevate humanity.

Examine just one of the many powerful and eternally beneficial benefits the might Jesus offered;

In Israelite law, adultery was indeed restricted to actions that involved a married woman—that is (from the male lover's point of
view), somebody else's wife. In Mathew 5:27-28, however, Jesus was not talking about men's attitude to other men's wives; rather, he was talking about men's attitudes to women. He didn't say, "Whoever looks at another man's wife to covet her . . .";
rather, he said, "whoever looks at a woman to covet her . . ." the Greek word epithymeo, translated in the King James Version and
New King James Version as "lust for," is the same word that the Septuagint uses in its rendering of the tenth commandment: "You shall not covet. . . ."wink

This transition from "other men's wives" to "women" represents a fundamental shift in Atheistic perspective which is a sore point with them because of their love for child pornography and prostitution. Thus, Jesus was not only putting a special emphasis on "the psychological predisposition of the heart" but also shifting the emphasis from a man's acts that involved the wife of another man to a man's acts (including mental acts) that involved a woman. Looking at a woman as if she were an object was wrong,
not because this "object" (if married) belonged to another man but because a woman was not to be treated in this way in any case.

Jesus offered powerful protection for women, because a woman was not to be treated in this way.

On the other hand, the prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins is happy encourage the legalization of marriage between two woman. This is Atheism's offer to humanity.
Christianity EtcRe: Ex-theists/atheists, How Did You View Atheists When You Were A Theist? by ScienceWatch: 10:32am On Jan 01, 2018
Martinez19:
I saw atheists as people who were not serious or people who "just missed it."
HaHaaaaaaaa! LOL Hic Haaa. Martinez19 you are one of two of the worlds most honest Atheists. You reveal, what few atheists will admit to the world. You say that you decided to become an Atheist because you correctly realized that they were not serious people and that "they just missed it."

I will say no more for now. World religions, please join us here. You will be amazed at the change of our new rules of engagement.
You simply ask the questions and Atheists answer. If they ask you a question you dont answer, you keep on asking questions for ever and ever.
World religions, please be patient because these rules are brand new to Atheists.

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