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butterflyl1on:


You got that spot on.

They are a product of a primordial soup.

I wonder what the soup was eaten with.

Someone said that to turn from Christian or Muslim you must have eaten your primordial soup with Chinese Chop-Sticks.

analice107:
Very true.

These atheists are a mostly rebellious homeless kids claiming a life online. Offline they are nobodies.

Aaaaah, I see. Then lets find homes for them ?

Get their details, I know it could be a very long, long list but not be tolerated.
It does not matter if they are no-bodies, we understand that that is how they have defined themselves. They say that they are no beings that accidentally appeared on planet earth after two rouge out of orbit planets crashed billions of yrs ago.

They are homeless indeed ! Show mercy !

butterflyl1on:
you have a point. the "low level" fledgling atheists would go full vitriol on you at those questions.

That young females easy question No 4 will be a no-brainer.

4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

Answer: Low-level Atheists.

butterflyl1on:
you have a point. the "low level" fledgling atheists would go full vitriol on you at those questions.

Dont get me wrong Sir, at the same time I absolutely agree with your profound statement that," God can use anyone to set anyone straight!"

But Low-level (fledgling Atheists) are not "Anyone." By their own classification they are not created beings, but rather accidental, random offspring of two rouge planets that went out of orbit and crashed billions of yrs ago.

butterflyl1on:

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It took the honest simple questions from his own student to wake his conscience up. God can use anyone to set anyone straight!

Allow me to differ on this Sir. No one can set a Low-Level Atheist straight. Anyone that has studied the mind-set of Nairalands
Low-level Atheists know that they would have torn that young lady to shreds like hungry wolf at a kill.

If you dont believe it, I beg you to simply put those four simply questions to indoctrinated Low-Level unregistered Atheists.

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

The answers to those simple questions set a hardened, Genuine Atheist free, but it will drive a low-level Atheist insane.

butterflyl1on:
Awww what bet did you lose?

I bet and lost 10,000 Naira that a brainless Amoebae can over 30 billion yrs evolve into an Atheist.


I just viewed you amazing topic on the extra-ordinary, courageous, humble, conscientious Professor. Lumsden. No Low-Level Atheist can bear what this man had to go through. He lost his precious career and Friends etc The brief extract below is enough to separate the wheat from the chaff and the Low-level Atheists from the Genuine Atheists.
https://www.nairaland.com/4109903/renowned-evolutionist-turns-creationist-christian#61310548
THIS IS A MUST READ FOR ALL YOUTHS IN THIS CRAZY WORLD !!!!

Dr. Lumsden had the integrity to face his new doubts honestly. He undertook a personal research project to check out the arguments for evolution, and over time, found them wanting. Based on the scientific evidence alone, he decided he must reject Darwinism, and he became a creationist. But as morning follows night, he had to face the next question, Who is the Creator?

Shortly thereafter, by coincidence or not, his daughter invited him to church. It was so out of character for this formerly crusty, self-confident evolutionist to go to church!
Not much earlier, he would have had nothing to do with religion. But now, he was open to reconsider the identity of the Creator, and whether the claims of the Bible were true. His atheistic philosophy had also left him helpless to deal with guilt and bad habits in his personal life.

This time he was open, and this time he heard the Good News that God had sent His Son to pay the penalty for our sins, and to offer men forgiveness and eternal life.

A tremendous struggle was going on in Dr. Lumsden’s heart as he listened to the sermon. When the service ended, the pastor gave an invitation to come to the front and decide once and for all, publicly, to receive Christ. Dr. Lumsden describes the turmoil he was in: “With flesh protesting every inch of the way, I found myself walking forward, down to the altar.

And there, found God! Truly, at that moment, I came to know Him, and received the Lord Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.” There’s room at the cross even for know-it-all science professors, if they are willing to humble themselves and bow before the Creator to whom the scientific evidence points.

butterflyl1on:
Awww what bet did you lose?

I bet and lost 10,000 Naira that a brainless Amoebae can over 30 billion yrs evolve into an Atheist.

butterflyl1on:
The Mafia called science!

Because Dr. Richard Lumsden gave his life to Christ and became a creationist he was evicted from the faculty of science.

This was the same man who won the highest world award in parasitology and whom they celebrated. A wrong research did not get him evicted but conversion to Christianity and accepting creationism did.

It is well!

You right butterflyl1on, Science is a MAFIA gang. This professor is one of the rare brave souls that prefer truth above a career.

This brief extract from the OP reveal a very rare quality among hardened Atheists. This Atheist was creative and flexible in spite of the shackles of rigid scientific indoctrination. He broke free, He had conscience.

Dr. Richard Lumsden was professor of parasitology and cell biology at Tulane University. He served as dean of the graduate school, and published hundreds of scientific papers. He trained 30 PhDs. Thoroughly versed in biological sciences, both in knowledge and lab technique, including electron microscopy, he won the highest world award for parasitology. All through his career he believed Darwinian evolution was an established principle of science, and he took great glee in ridiculing Christian beliefs.

One day, he heard that Louisiana had passed a law requiring equal time for creation with evolution, and he was angry– how stupid, he thought, and how evil! He used the opportunity to launch into a tirade against creationism in class, and to give them his best eloquence in support of Darwinism. Little did he know he had a formidable opponent in class that day. No, not a silver-tongued orator to engage him in a battle of wits; that would have been too easy.

This time it was a gentle, polite, young female student.

This student went up to him after class and cheerfully exclaimed, “Great lecture, Doc! Say, I wonder if I could make an appointment with you; I have some questions about what you said, and just want to get my facts straight.”

Dr. Lumsden, flattered with this student’s positive approach, agreed on a time they could meet in his office. On the appointed day, the student thanked him for his time, and started in. She did not argue with anything he had said about evolution in class, but just began asking a series of questions:

1) “How did life arise? . . .
2) "Isn’t DNA too complex to form by chance?"
3) "Why are there gaps in the fossil record between major kinds?"
4) "What are the missing links between apes and man?”

She didn’t act judgmental or provocative; she just wanted to know.

Prof. Lumsden, unabashed, gave the standard evolutionary answers to the questions. But something about this interchange began making him very uneasy. He was prepared for a fight, but not for a gentle, honest set of questions. As he listened to himself spouting the typical evolutionary responses, he thought to himself, This does not make any sense. What I know about biology is contrary to what I’m saying. When the time came to go, the student picked up her books and smiled, “Thanks, Doc!” and left. On the outside,

Dr. Lumsden appeared confident; but on the inside, he was devastated. He knew that everything he had told this student was wrong.

IT IS VERY RARE TO MEET AN ATHEIST WITH A CONSCIENCE !

butterflyl1on:
The chance for this is NEVER! Immaterial conscience and morality (even as an origin) is inconceivable in a materialistic world.

Even if the tangible were to be made then wherefore did the intangible come from to make that which is tangible to become realistic and able to make workable deductions affecting it's will, desires, cravings and purpose?

Because of your answer, I just lost money on a bet, butterflyl1on. In spite of my loss you deserve to be honored with
QUOTE OF WEEK for the second time -

QUOTE OF WEEK goes to ;

Quote by author=butterflyl1on post=61324801 - Immaterial conscience and morality (even as an origin) is inconceivable in a materialistic world.

SALUTE !

segunojo866:
I was once a Christian before converting to an atheist guy but to be honest with you religious Nairalanders and also the atheists here, am so sure you all are confused people. For instance, the Christian religion is divided into so many doctrines and each doctrines share a different quotation of the Bible.

Islam is another dangerous religion and it's the most popular religion that promotes child trafficking. I can't still believe that a prophet in the Quran slept with a 9years old girl and got married to her when she was just 6years (nairaland please don't banned me i didn't call anybody name)

Atheists are not free thinkers because most of their time is spent attacking religion. I know the idea of a personal god is bullshit but atheists idea of humans evolving from apes is a bigger bullshit. Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Charles Darwin are among the irrational fools promoting stupid books about evolution.

Could you be wrong about Atheists claims that they evolved from brainless Amoebae, to fish, to mammals, to monkey, to Apes, then to human ?

Could you be wrong ?

What are the chances of a brainless Amoebae evolving into a fish, then mammals, then monkey, then Apes, then to human ?

I am a gambling man, tell me what are the odds that a brainless material Amoebae would evolve into a Human with an immaterial conscience or morality ?

KAYD007:
No one should fight the Gods....we should just simply ignore their existence!

KAYD007, To ignore is to fight. The prophets of Atheism, Harris and Dawkins clearly prove that the gods can never be ignored.

butterflyl1on:
Ha ha ha very true. Lmao

Sciencewatch you have a way with words bro

Thanks butterflyl1on, but I am actually learning from you.

KAYD007:
No one should fight the Gods....we should just simply ignore their existence!

To ignore something is to fight it. KAYD007,you are in effect saying "No one should fight the Gods,we should just simply FIGHT their existence."
Atheists have been extremely unsuccessful over the past 2700 yrs. The modern prophets Harris and Dawkins have failed miserably.

What does it mean when the world watch Atheists use billions of Gigabytes of their hard earned data "IGNORING THE gods."

It means that the gods cant be ignored.

Consider a stunning remark Atheists demi-god, Sam Harris made to an interviewer in 2009: He wishfully said, “If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion.” THE gods cannot be ignored !

Consider the prophet of modern Atheism, Richard Dawkins to stop prayers in schools, he signed, in 2006, of a petition to the British Prime Minister that called for making it “illegal to indoctrinate or define children by religion before the age of 16.

Learn from your Atheist Prophet and Demi-god, Dawkins and Harris, THE gods CAN NEVER BE IGNORED !






butterflyl1on, Vaxx, segunojo866

KAYD007:
No one should fight the Gods....we should just simply ignore their existence!

To ignore something is to fight it.
What does it mean when the world watch Atheists use billions of Gigabytes of their hard earned data "IGNORING THE gods."

It means that the gods cant be ignored.

Consider a stunning remark Atheists demi-god, Sam Harris made to an interviewer in 2009: He wishfully said, “If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion.” THE gods cannot be ignored !

Consider the prophet of modern Atheism, Richard Dawkins to stop prayers in schools, he signed, in 2006, of a petition to the British Prime Minister that called for making it “illegal to indoctrinate or define children by religion before the age of 16.

Learn from your Atheist Prophet and Demi-god, Dawkins and Harris, THE gods CAN NEVER BE IGNORED !

dalaman:
There are people here who believe Yahweh is real but can't even demonstrate or show that he's not more than an illusion.

Your question has been effectively answered a billion times in history, Dalaman.

A professor said to Greg, “I hear you won an award, how did you do that ?
Greg replied, “It is God that is doing everything for us sir.”
Professor, God ?
Greg, Yes sir
Prof, “Which God ?
Geg, He is in heaven,
Prof, can you see your God ?
Geg, No sir.
Prof, Can you touch your God
Greg, No sir.

Prof says angrily, Then there is no God !!!
Greg looks surprised by this s0-called intelligent mans opinion.
Prof then says that science has proven it, that anything you cant see or touch does not exist. Therefore you don’t have a God !!!! I am a Prof, I know things that you don’t.

Greg recovers and asks, Prof how do you know there is no God ?
Prof says, Common sense, I use my sense.
Grey asks, where is your sense ?
Prof says, It is up here, pointing to his head.
Grey asks, Can you see your sense ?
Prof says, No.
Greg asks, Can you touch your sense ?
Prof says, no.
Greg says, That means that your sense don’t exist, because according to science anything you cant see or touch does not exit. Therefore you don’t have any sense prof.

segunojo866:
is God real?

Your question has been effectively answered a billion times in history.

A professor said to Greg, “I hear you won an award, how did you do that ?
Greg replied, “It is God that is doing everything for us sir.”
Professor, God ?
Greg, Yes sir
Prof, “Which God ?
Geg, He is in heaven,
Prof, can you see your God ?
Geg, No sir.
Prof, Can you touch your God
Greg, No sir.

Prof says angrily, Then there is no God !!!
Greg looks surprised by this s0-called intelligent mans opinion.
Prof then says that science has proven it, that anything you cant see or touch does not exist. Therefore you don’t have a God !!!! I am a Prof, I know things that you don’t.

Greg recovers and asks, Prof how do you know there is no God ?
Prof says, Common sense, I use my sense.
Grey asks, where is your sense ?
Prof says, It is up here, pointing to his head.
Grey asks, Can you see your sense ?
Prof says, No.
Greg asks, Can you touch your sense ?
Prof says, no.
Greg says, That means that your sense don’t exist, because according to science anything you cant see or touch does not exit. Therefore you don’t have any sense prof.

segunojo866:
if great men can't come to conclusion about our existence, it's best to conclude that there is no accurate explanation about creation.

The great men you need for answers to your baffling questions and doubts will not be found among weak modern so-called civilization. The ancient man were wise indeed !

Is there any evidence that mankind is becoming smarter? The historical evidence indicates that man in the most ancient civilizations was a lot smarter than textbooks lead us to believe. For example, we still have no idea how or even why the ancient Egyptians built their pyramids. Engineers and scientist look foolish as they fabricate theories to impress a dumb modern civilization.

segunojo866:
maybe i will be the first to win the gods

Sorry to disappoint you segunojo866, those that have tried to beat the gods all ended up insane. Atheists has realized that their sick dreams of destroying all religions especially Islam and Christianity will NEVER succeed.

I have always advised Atheists that I see a unique talent among most of them that can be used profitably and effectively. Instead of dismantling, analyzing and trashing religions, they should target their hatred toward man made products.

Atheists can also creatively use Evolution theory and cleverly mixed it into their arguments to prove that the Toyota engine pistons evolved from disgruntled nuts and bolts.

segunojo866:
if great men can't come to conclusion about our existence, it's best to conclude that there is no accurate explanation about creation

So the great men you are referring to is hopefulLandlord And martenz19.. They have done well. Existence and creation is sorted !

segunojo866:
if great men can't come to conclusion about our existence, it's best to conclude that there is no accurate explanation about creation.

segunojo866, are you referring to these great men, Charles Darwin, Sigmund Freud, Thomas Henry Huxley, Albert Einstein
and Fredrick Nietzsche ?

segunojo866:

The case Enilove presented can never be understood with logic alone, neither can it be properly understood with higher REASON. This ls the reason educated person battle foolishly with sacred doctrines and end up looking dumb. Spirituality is above mere logic and reason. that is why the prophet of modern Atheism look so crazy.

segunojo866:

Don't butt in, I was responding to that rude asshol Jonbellion.

enilove:
That is a good question.

What makes me so sure can be divided into 2 :

1----Biblical accounts of the Israelites in Egypt and how God divided the Red Sea for the Israelites to escape from Pharaoh.

2---- Divine healing or miracles God performed in my life and other recorded undeniable miracles. Some of the videos are with me.


The Egyptians never for once deny those Biblical plagues and miracle of the Red Sea. Mind you, the Bible did not say something good about them . This is enough to make them reject those things but they are honest people and the remains of the houses the Israelites lived are still evident today.

My own miracle was an ailment I had that made one herbalist afraid and quickly removed his face when he saw it , but was healed when I went to RCCG convention in 1997 or so. I just laid my hand on the afflicted part during prayer by a Pastor ( not G.O ) as instructed by the Holy Spirit , and the affliction died instantly. Although I didn't notice initially . This is an ailment I had for over 20 yrs disappearing even without telling any Pastor or any body about it . I was just standing there among the congregation.

I have at least 2 more testimonies which were about death, but God saved me. This kind was what killed my elder brother in 1994, but God saved my own life because I quickly went to one CAC church in Ikotun when I had that dream relating to coffins.


God is real but there are so many false churches and fake Pastors. I am not surprised because Jesus told us :

Matthew 7:13-16 KJV
Enter ye in at the strait ( tiny ) gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: [14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it. [15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Do not let the devils deceive you, there is God.
I am not a Pastor and am not interested in you coming to my church but you can know God if you pray.

Thank you for presenting your case so powerfully. Enilove. I BELIEVE !!

butterflyl1on:
My boss you humble me

Your wisdom humbles me Sir.

Salute !!

jonbellion:
fukking sciencewatch

Dont hit on me bro, I am not gay. GO FUK YOURSELF!

butterflyl1on:
Take home quote of the day




-------- sciencewatch October 10, 2017

Aaaaah ! many thanks !


"QUOTE OF THE WEEK" By butterflyl1on on the 10 Oct 2017 at 11:24;

"Agnostic atheist is logically impossible. It's as illogical as calling something falsely truly false"

https://www.nairaland.com/4107041/atheists-skeptics-just-angry-bunch/1#61281454

hopefulLandlord:
I repeat, there's no need mentioning me in your posts, I'll find them regardless

Aaah. 999 apologies.

vaxx:
I really love your last word.... No one has ever won the battle....

Thanks Vaxx. I am very disturbed when I read such honest testimony of deep personal views.

How does the honorable Segunojo866 even begin to work through his list of challenges? I observe that he is certainly not confused but is rather sharing his challenges which I assume is similar to many people globally.

Honorable Segunojo866, it will be good if you re-arrange your points below in order of importance to you. Then your list of invitees can focus and debate No 1 first.

1) Christian religion is divided into so many doctrines and each doctrines share a different quotation of the Bible.

2) Nairalanders and also the atheists here, am so sure you all are confused people.

3) let me just conclude that Christianity is a lost journey.

4) Islam is another dangerous religion and it's the most popular religion that promotes child trafficking.

5) I can't still believe that a prophet in the Quran slept with a 9years old girl and got married to her when she was just 6years.

6) Please don't blame Boko Haram, Isis and some other crazy Islamic terrorists group. They are simply obeying God commandment in the Quran.

7) I noticed that atheists are so intelligent with Bible and Quran stuff. (This is a huge delusion.)

Atheists are not free thinkers because most of their time is spent attacking religion.

9) I know the idea of a personal god is bullshit but atheists idea of humans evolving from apes is a bigger bullshit.

10) Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Charles Darwin are among the irrational fools promoting stupid books about evolution.

I trust that expert help is on the way ; Jacksonville, Felixomor, segunojo866, bullerflyl1on,

segunojo866:
I was once a Christian before converting to an atheist guy but to be honest with you religious Nairalanders and also the atheists here, am so sure you all are confused people. For instance, the Christian religion is divided into so many doctrines and each doctrines share a different quotation of the Bible. As a result of this confusion so many churches are at war with each other. I still remember attending white garment church and the fake prophetess always condemn other churches also redeemed is another commercial church that criticized other doctrines. Hahahahahaha let me just conclude that Christianity is a lost journey.
Islam is another dangerous religion and it's the most popular religion that promotes child trafficking. I can't still believe that a prophet in the Quran slept with a 9years old girl and got married to her when she was just 6years (nairaland please don't banned me i didn't call anybody name) true Muslims must practice jihad which means holy war. Please don't blame Boko Haram, Isis and some other crazy Islamic terrorists group. They are simply obeying God commandment in the Quran.
Finally the atheists, I noticed that atheists are so intelligent with Bible and Quran stuff. Most of them were strong devoted Christian or Muslim before but later decide to rebel against their terrorists god Jehovah and Allah. Atheists are not free thinkers because most of their time is spent attacking religion. I know the idea of a personal god is bullshit but atheists idea of humans evolving from apes is a bigger bullshit. Richard Dawkins, Stephen Hawking, Charles Darwin are among the irrational fools promoting stupid books about evolution. My views are complex i will define myself as 60percent agnostic 30percent atheist,10percent Christian and ZERO percent Muslim.
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Awesome segunojo866 ! I can clearly see that this is your honest feelings on these issues.
You are honestly writing about the massive doubts and never-ending confusion and fear dominating our lives globally.

I can only suggest you make a list of your points above according to importance to you, then work to clear your mind and settle your peace on each issue one by one. It may take you a year or more.
Because if you dont, you will rob yourself of the joy of living inside an evil world. Chose your battles wisely, dont fight the Gods, no one has ever won this battle.