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Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch:
felixomor:
Wow shocked
LMAO cheesy
Yes it is all ridicules, full of stupidity. Now it all makes sense to the world. Fleximor, there is more.
I posted it on Butterflylion's thread. Let us know your thoughts on this.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 11:19pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
Lmao grin
Laugh my ass out too ! butterflylion you wont believe that it get even more ridicules and tongue in cheek funnier as Honds email progressed.

I am trying to type out the Atheist Annual meetings "MISSION STATEMENT" that Hond sent. Give me another 5 mins.

Meanwhile here is some more of the Atheists meeting ;

Ogunyemi Adekunle of Abudja said in sombre tones, We strongly stand against and seek a violent end if need be to all forms of state sponsored religious activities.
We seek to extend our humanitarian services to infiltrate Nigerian prisons, orphanage homes and other social welfare facilities to promote Atheism.

We are out to fully protect any person or group of persons discriminated against or sidelined on the grounds of social status or religion, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, skin colour, medical condition,
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 11:19pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
Lmao grin
Laugh my ass out too ! butterflylion you wont believe that it get even more ridicules and tongue in cheek funnier as Honds email progressed.

I am trying to type out the Atheist Annual meetings "MISSION STATEMENT" that Hond sent. Give me another 5 mins.

Meanwhile hear is some more of the Atheists meeting ;

Ogunyemi Adekunle of Abudja said in sombre tones, We strongly stand against and seek a violent end if need be to all forms of state sponsored religious activities.
We seek to extend our humanitarian services to infiltrate Nigerian prisons, orphanage homes and other social welfare facilities to promote Atheism.

We are out to fully protect any person or group of persons discriminated against or sidelined on the grounds of social status or religion, gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, skin colour, medical condition,
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 11:06pm On Sep 25, 2017
hahn:
He is known for even dumber comments. I don forget that him alternate moniker sef
The way Hahn mumbles on about alternate Monikers reminds me of his failed prophet of modern Atheism Richard Dawkins. Is Hahns alternate Moniker "Oaroloye" ? ?
It makes me wonder, he has the same irritating tone.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch:
butterflylion:
Lmao grin
Lol these deluded Atheists think they are fighting weaklings. They have failed for more than 2,000 yrs and learned nothing
of the power of Christianity or Islam. It is a force far superior to Atheism.

It is so superior that Professors of science come over to join in. As in the recent case of Prof Collins.
Prof. collins was forced to examine the evidence concerning the truth or falsity of religion, collins was eventually led to read C. S. Lewis’ Mere Christianity, where, he says, '...within the first three pages, I realised that my arguments against faith were those of a schoolboy.'

He realised that no law of science could adequately explain the existence of morality or faith or God.

Christianity EtcRe: Please, We Atheists Need Religious Translations! by ScienceWatch: 10:59pm On Sep 25, 2017
JackBizzle:
Atheists; Dawkins is a great scientist and atheist debater

Christians; Dawkins is daddy GO pastor and founder of atheism
I don’t think it is difficult to see the incongruous nature of what Dawkins is doing. He accuses Televangelists of “fleecing gullible people of their money,” yet he does not shy away from duping “gullible” atheists into paying 27.4million Naira to have the “honor” of dining with him. It seems that he is making good deal of money from his atheist activism. According to the The Richest, The Sunday Times estimated his net worth in 2012 to be around, 46 Billion Naira which is comparable to the net worth of some of the richest Televangelists around the world.

Atheists, it seems, are not immune to being scammed
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 10:46pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
Lmao so their meeting was solely to find a way to preach atheism.

They would have formed the atheist church grin

Atheism does no make anyone intelligent. It actually makes one close-minded and it limits the kind of information one can let in.

It makes one ridiculously dumb.
Lol. Yes it must have seemed more like Hilters meeting on the extermination of the Jews.

Here is more on the email that Hond sent from the USA;

Hond says that, "On the day of the Atheist meeting I only saw a very small group. They looked more like a Nazi secret society with plans to destroy the Jews. I decided to stay in the background and evaluate to see if they are “Coward Atheists” or “Brave Atheists” because my father, my whole family and huge circle of friends have all vowed to distance themselves from “Coward Atheists.”

Prof Tunde Arogundade from Plateau State preached about the religious crises in Nigeria and its damaging effect on the country; I was shocked, only an incurable fool would believe, hook line and sinker that the crisis in Nigeria is because of religion.
He failed in his biased speech to add that all religions, especially Scoan Church in Nigeria is the most powerful example of how religion is hugely benefiting Nigeria diplomatically, financially and socially. One extreme is the millions of positively changed lives resulting from the work at Scoan.

I was born into a large prominent Atheist family, but I was angry to hear an educated man from Plateau State focus on destroying religion. He ignored the fact that it is corrupt politics and “Coward Atheism” that is destroying Nigeria. It is clear for all to see the incredible social benefits religion offers to a country.

The mission statement written by Hotem Dajenid of Uganda, was read by Ogunyemi Adekunle of Abudja sounded much like a declaration of war against their enemy (religion).

Hond continues, "I was preparing to slip out of the meeting quietly, while the Atheist mission statement was read. The atmosphere in the room was chilling as the call to war continued. It commands Atheists to forcefully seek to liberate Nigerians from the harmful effects of religions and other beliefs by promoting Atheism through the lofty ideals of science and reason- especially in the rural communities. Because the rural communities are dull and will easily succumb to the brilliance of science."
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 10:37pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
Lmao so their meeting was solely to find a way to preach atheism.

They would have formed the atheist church grin

Atheism does no make anyone intelligent. It actually makes one close-minded and it limits the kind of information one can let in.

It makes one ridiculously dumb.
butterflylion, Imagine for a moment what praise songs Atheists will sing in their pemple ?

PRAISE BE TO RICHARD DAWKINS, HE IS OUR CORRUPT SAVIOUR.
HE LEADS US AWAY FROM GOD AND MAKES A VISIT TO SATAN EASY. ..........LOL. Fall off the chair kind of laughter.

Here is more of the email from Hond ;

Hond says, "I Booked into an hotel three days earlier on business and to attend an Atheist meeting in Haribina hotel, Arab Utako, Abuja. I was invited to trash and destroy religion." Something told me that these people are going mad.

Dr. Ogunlana Adeleke was appointed as the president, prof. Tunde Arogundade was appointed as a director, Yemisi Ilesanmi as a director, Ogunyemi Adekunle was appointed as the secretary, Sambo Gamba was appointed as the public relation officer while Adepoju Adeleke was appointed as the account officer. These [unanimously] appointed executive members will run the Nigerian Atheists Organisation for the period of one year (from February 12, 2012 to February 12, 2013) when the organisation would have been ready for a proper election.
Item 4 (overview of the mission statement):

The mission statement was read by Ogunyemi Adekunle; Prof. Tunde Arogundade suggested that the word ‘mission’ be replaced with ‘manifesto’. Yemisi Ilesanmi complained that the mission is too broad and called for it to be cut down to cover only atheists rights; explaining that Nigerian Atheists Organization should have a singular focus of fighting for atheists’ rights in Nigeria rather than all encompassing rights activism.Ogunyemi Adekunle disagreed with this position, pointing it out that; atheistic values go beyond the mere defense of atheists’ liberty….
Item 5 (acknowledgement of goodwill messages):
Dr. Ogunlana Adeleke called in during the meeting to apologize for not being able to be physically present and to affirm his full commitment to Nigerian Atheists Organisation. Mrs. Adekunle Ann also called in to pass her goodwill message.

Ogunyemi Adekunle formally acknowledged the financial and moral support of Dr. Ogunlana Adeleke in organising the meeting. Hotem Dajenid (Honorary Nigerian – from Uganda) who has been a strong moral and practical backbone to this organization from the cradle sent in a awe inspiring message that was read shortly before the end of the meeting.
It was moved by Adepoju Adeleke and seconded by Prof. Tunde Arogundade that the meeting be adjourn to April for a general meeting where all suggestions will be looked into.
The meeting closed at 18:00 p.m.

I will sent you more as I find time.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 10:28pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
I hail you bro.

Keep doing what makes you different and what makes you strong. Their annoyance cannot sink a piece of paper on water.
Remember, Atheists have a cruel, cowardly hidden agenda when they troll religious sites. Just like a viscous gang that will rob a woman of her dignity and honour by raping her, in the same way the Atheist gang comes to rob Christians of their dignity and honour
by raping their holy scriptures and then spraying their corrosive sperm over it.

Atheist are deluded when they think Christians will turn the other cheek.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 10:17pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
Sorry bro but I was away attending to some business and only just finished. Atheists here will not come first for me when money is concerned grin

You know what gets me all riled up? It's the fact that they act so cocky in their deceit and delusion and try to paint an image of Confidence to the gullible audience they do crave for and when this is not happening they resort to insults and trying to give people the impression that you are a crazy theist with all manner of low blows.

At those times I just look at them and laugh so hard because they are just putting their obvious insecurities on display just like this Johnydon ode who is so crazy over likes and shares and thinks I bother about those here. Is it Nairaland likes and shares that put clothes on my back or shoes on my feet?

Such ridiculous childish posturing yet wants everyone to believe he is intelligent with his cloak and dagger approach to things.

Anyway I have read what this Hond guy wrote and some of his comments on the links you sent. He seemed like a very angry guy.
Yes, about Hond. He seemed very angry when he was invited to Nairaland to checkout the behaviour of Nairalands Atheists on religious sites. I remember him mailing me to me ask what I thought of all this crap. He would have backed you any day, butterflylion.

Here is a continuation of one of the emails Hond sent me;

Hond had this to say about the Shocking Atheist Annual meeting he attended :
Ogunyemi Adekunle from Abuja, just repeating what the master preached and stressed that religion and superstition will continue to rule Nigeria with all the harmful effects. For people that worship science, do they know how stupid they come across after spending all their time and money to travel so far to this very, very small Atheist meeting.

Sambo Gamba of Bauchi state also was there.

Andrew Nandip from Plateau State who sheepishly testified how Prof. Tunde was able to help him become the full-blown rationalist/atheist that he is today, agreed that Nigerian atheists should take it as a duty to help as many people as possible get free from the shackles of religion.

The only reasonable person in that meeting was Yemisi Ilesanm from the UK, she strongly opposed the clarion call that atheists should work to convince religionists to give up their religion for reason. Defending her argument, she asked if there is any standard to prove that atheistic views are the right or the superior ones and added that being atheist does not interpret as being intelligent or super intelligent. This position resorted into an argument between Ogunyemi Adekunle and Yemisi Ilesanmi.
Item 3 (Appointment of officials):

I will post you post you more as I find time.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 10:02pm On Sep 25, 2017
butterflylion:
Sorry bro but I was away attending to some business and only just finished. Atheists here will not come first for me when money is concerned grin

You know what gets me all riled up? It's the fact that they act so cocky in their deceit and delusion and try to paint an image of Confidence to the gullible audience they do crave for and when this is not happening they resort to insults and trying to give people the impression that you are a crazy theist with all manner of low blows.

At those times I just look at them and laugh so hard because they are just putting their obvious insecurities on display just like this Johnydon ode who is so crazy over likes and shares and thinks I bother about those here. Is it Nairaland likes and shares that put clothes on my back or shoes on my feet?

Such ridiculous childish posturing yet wants everyone to believe he is intelligent with his cloak and dagger approach to things.

Anyway I have read what this Hond guy wrote and some of his comments on the links you sent. He seemed like a very angry guy.
Mmmm ! extremely well written butterflylion. You certainly understand the sly, underhand workings of the unregistered Atheists minds. Yes, good point there. Atheists thrive on likes and shares as trophies to take home.

Right now I only know one truly intelligent Atheist, Prof. F. Collins who broke out of the destructive mold of Atheism to embrace the Mighty Jesus.
Christianity EtcRe: An Atheist On Judgment Day by ScienceWatch: 9:46pm On Sep 25, 2017
hahn:
Lennycool shared this story he saw online with us on Thinker's Lodge(a whatsapp group for freethinkers)

An atheist on Judgment Day.

- The line seemed to stretch back forever. Hundreds of millions of souls, waiting patiently for their turn before the throne. The date... Well, the day is Judgment Day, so you won't find it on any calendar. The queue of people winds its way down the mountain, through the valley and off into the far distance. Everybody in the queue can see the final destination at the mountain peak. A hundred miles away, they can see it perfectly clearly. And they wait, moving forward a couple of steps at a time. Towards God, and the Decision.�

At the head of the we find a young Christian, wearing an expression of awe and joy. Behind him, an atheist, looking slightly astonished, examining a leaf she has picked from a nearby bush, trying to decide if it is real or not. Heaven, she thinks, should be whiter, with more dry ice swirling about; not look like a Welsh hillside on a hot day.

The Christian steps forward for judgment.

"Hello Martin". God's voice is calm and gentle as He speaks.

"Erm.. Hello. Lord". Martin's voice is nervous, as a dozen emotions fight for room in his mind at once.

"This is it. This is where I decide what shall happen to you, Martin. In life, you were a Christian". It was a statement, not a question.

"I was, Lord. I still am. I have been all my life. I have dedicated myself to your service."

"Tell me, Martin. Why were you a Christian? Why did you believe in me?"

"Why? Well... Because you are God! I've always believed in you."

"That is not what I want to know. Why did you believe?"

"Because I knew it was true. You were always there for me. You helped me through the bad times. You answered my prayers. You gave me the strength and courage to get through life. I could feel your presence with me all the time."

"No."

"Pardon, Lord?"

"I said no, Martin. I have never helped you. You seemed to be doing perfectly alright by yourself. I heard your prayers, but never answered a single one. Your belief in me definitely helped you on occasion, but I have never intervened in your life. Certainly, you gave me credit for all the good times, but they were your own doing, not mine. You did not feel my presence, because it cannot be felt. The only actual proof you have that I exist at all is here and now. Again, tell me why you believed."

"I.. I had faith, Lord. Since I was a child I have been to church, prayed and sang every Sunday. My faith in you never wavered. Even when my mother died, I had faith that it was your will, that it was a blessing from you that she passed peacefully. I was raised to believe in you, and as I grew I read the Bible for myself, and learnt of your miracles, and all the saints and martyrs, and the good done in your name. I read the works of great philosophers and they merely strengthened my faith. I knew it was true. "

"No, Martin. Your mother died of natural causes, and she died peacefully because of the actions of the hospital. I watched and saw, but that is all. As for the rest - the saints, martyrs and philosophers had similar reasons for their belief in me, just as dictators and murderers have had. People have done great good and great harm in my name, and in the names of a thousand false gods. The Bible was written about me, not by me, and was written by people who had similar reasons as you for their belief, just as a thousand other Holy Books have been written about the false gods, or different versions of myself. I ask for the third and final time. Why did you believe in me?"

Martin looked shocked and ashen, but pulled himself together. His Lord was testing him, and he had lived his entire life for this moment.

"I believed because I could feel in my heart it was true. You sent your son to die for us, and I gladly accepted Him as my saviour. I.. I just knew it was true, and now that I see you, my faith has been vindicated. I no longer need to believe - I can see for myself the truth and majesty of my religion."

Quietly, God spoke again. "Martin, you have impressed me". He paused.

"But... not enough. You believe because you were taught to believe. You believe because you mistakenly attribute to me anything positive that has happened in your life, and discount anything negative. You believe because it is comforting to believe, and because you are frightened of the consequences of my not existing. You believe because... you believe. I'm sorry, Martin, but there is no place for you here."

God gestured briefly with his fingers, and Martin vanished. His shadow lingered where he had stood, fading rapidly to nothingness.

The atheist, somewhat shaken by what she had just seen, stepped forward.

"Hello Eve. I like that name."

"Ah. Hello, God. Thanks", said Eve, not entirely sure how to address a being she had, until now, considered fictional.

"Yes, you may call me God. Eve, in life you were an atheist. You doubted my existence, even objecting to the very concept". Again, a statement, not a question.

"Yes, I did. Clearly, I was mistaken."

"Clearly. Tell me, are you still an atheist?"

"I suppose not. I'm not a Christian, Jew or anything else. I guess I'd have to be called an involuntary theist. Ah ha ha", Eve laughed nervously, hoping the very real and solid-looking deity before her had a good sense of humour.

"Mmm... Tell me, Eve. Why did you not believe in me?". God's voice was kind and gentle once more.

"At one point I did. I was raised as a Christian, and often went to church, and prayed every night before bed. When I was feeling down I would read the Bible. The act of reading it seemed to comfort me, even though the words themselves didn't seem much help. I think, like Martin, I believed because I believed."

"And then you lost your faith? You decided I did not exist, and you knew better than those around you? You knew better than your pastor and family?" The voice was losing its kindly edge a little.

"That is one way of looking at it, yes. What I believed did not seem to fit with other things I knew. The Bible clearly could not be literally true, word for word. I knew from biology and paleontology that humans had evolved like all other life, and were not special creations. How life or the universe began, I still don't know, but could not just merely accept 'God did it' as an explanation. I learned about other religions, and how they all claimed a monopoly on truth, happiness and morality. I saw the good done in your name, but I also saw the oppression, genocide and wars. I saw that if people were in need, it was up to us to deal with it, not to rely on heavenly aid.". Eve felt a little braver, but was expecting the traditional thunderbolt any moment. The people behind her, now at the head of the queue, were slowly moving backwards, trying not to draw attention to themselves.

"Yet here you are, before your God, on the final Day of Judgment. Why should I allow you in - a heretic, a disbeliever, an infidel - when your predecessor, devout and faithful, full of love for me, was consigned to Oblivion? Tell me why. Justify your entry to my Paradise."

Eve straightened up, looking God in the face. "Why should you let me in? Because I am better person than you."

If Eve had looked round, she would have seen the entire line of souls, perfectly still and wide-eyed, staring at her in shock.

"What did you say?", enquired God. His voice, though barely audible, caused tremors in the mountain.

Surprised at still being alive, her mouth dry, Eve continued. "I said, because I am a better person. You have shown it yourself already. You told Martin that you watched as his mother became ill and died. You destroyed him for believing for no good reason, when his whole life had been shaped by that belief. Your preachers on Earth encourage unquestioning faith, yet you do not tell us whether that is what you want. You give people no rational basis for belief, and then when they make up their own that is not good enough for you. You listen to our prayers, yet do not answer, leaving people to rationalise events for themselves. People kill and slaughter over trivial differences in doctrine, and you look on. In the churches and temples raised in your glory, children are mentally and physically abused - in your so-called House! All over the world, throughout history, people have murdered each other for believing the wrong thing about God, for believing in the wrong God, or for not believing in any God. The poorest and most helpless people are relentlessly targeted, being told to give what little they have now, for the promise of eternal bliss later. When a person is at his lowest ebb, that is when the smiling missionaries appear, knowing that his life will probably get better naturally and they can give you the credit. In your name, the ends justify the means as long as souls are saved". Eve paused for breath, and continued.

"And you? All-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing? You just sit here and you watch it all... Any person in this line, had they your power, would show greater compassion and morality. You may be God, but you are far from Godliness."

God smiled. "Are you finished? Good. Eve, you have impressed me". He paused. Eve held her breath, shoulders tensing.

"You have impressed me a great deal. You may have believed in me for all the wrong reasons, but you disbelieved for the right reasons. You led a good life, and used the intelligence I give to everybody in the correct way. Even though you came to a conclusion about me that was hopelessly wrong, you came to it in a way that cannot be faulted. You may pass into paradise, Eve, with my blessing."

Eve did not step forward. Instead, she spoke once more. "No, I will not".

"No? You refuse Heaven? You defy my will?" The smile had left God's face again.

"Do you think I would want to spend one more minute, let alone eternity, in your company? You allow people to suffer, sometimes for their entire lives, for no purpose, and then judge them on their reaction. You hide yourself from the world and allow your creations to persecute each other over differing interpretations of the lack of evidence. You see all the pain and ignorance caused in your name, and just sit there as this queue grows daily? And then you have the audacity to punish good people for believing in you 'for the wrong reasons'?"

"Eve. Enough of this. The gates to Paradise are open to you. Be silent now, and enter."

"No. If it is a choice between oblivion and an eternity with a monster like you, I gladly choose oblivion. I ask only one thing, before you destroy me."

"And what is that?" asked God, getting impatient.

"That, if you can, you look me in the eyes as you do it."

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Martin and Ashen seems to be doiong well.
Christianity EtcRe: An Atheist On Judgment Day by ScienceWatch: 9:45pm On Sep 25, 2017
hahn:
Lennycool shared this story he saw online with us on Thinker's Lodge(a whatsapp group for freethinkers)

An atheist on Judgment Day.

- The line seemed to stretch back forever. Hundreds of millions of souls, waiting patiently for their turn before the throne. The date... Well, the day is Judgment Day, so you won't find it on any calendar. The queue of people winds its way down the mountain, through the valley and off into the far distance. Everybody in the queue can see the final destination at the mountain peak. A hundred miles away, they can see it perfectly clearly. And they wait, moving forward a couple of steps at a time. Towards God, and the Decision.�

At the head of the we find a young Christian, wearing an expression of awe and joy. Behind him, an atheist, looking slightly astonished, examining a leaf she has picked from a nearby bush, trying to decide if it is real or not. Heaven, she thinks, should be whiter, with more dry ice swirling about; not look like a Welsh hillside on a hot day.

The Christian steps forward for judgment.

"Hello Martin". God's voice is calm and gentle as He speaks.

"Erm.. Hello. Lord". Martin's voice is nervous, as a dozen emotions fight for room in his mind at once.

"This is it. This is where I decide what shall happen to you, Martin. In life, you were a Christian". It was a statement, not a question.

"I was, Lord. I still am. I have been all my life. I have dedicated myself to your service."

"Tell me, Martin. Why were you a Christian? Why did you believe in me?"

"Why? Well... Because you are God! I've always believed in you."

"That is not what I want to know. Why did you believe?"

"Because I knew it was true. You were always there for me. You helped me through the bad times. You answered my prayers. You gave me the strength and courage to get through life. I could feel your presence with me all the time."

"No."

"Pardon, Lord?"

"I said no, Martin. I have never helped you. You seemed to be doing perfectly alright by yourself. I heard your prayers, but never answered a single one. Your belief in me definitely helped you on occasion, but I have never intervened in your life. Certainly, you gave me credit for all the good times, but they were your own doing, not mine. You did not feel my presence, because it cannot be felt. The only actual proof you have that I exist at all is here and now. Again, tell me why you believed."

"I.. I had faith, Lord. Since I was a child I have been to church, prayed and sang every Sunday. My faith in you never wavered. Even when my mother died, I had faith that it was your will, that it was a blessing from you that she passed peacefully. I was raised to believe in you, and as I grew I read the Bible for myself, and learnt of your miracles, and all the saints and martyrs, and the good done in your name. I read the works of great philosophers and they merely strengthened my faith. I knew it was true. "

"No, Martin. Your mother died of natural causes, and she died peacefully because of the actions of the hospital. I watched and saw, but that is all. As for the rest - the saints, martyrs and philosophers had similar reasons for their belief in me, just as dictators and murderers have had. People have done great good and great harm in my name, and in the names of a thousand false gods. The Bible was written about me, not by me, and was written by people who had similar reasons as you for their belief, just as a thousand other Holy Books have been written about the false gods, or different versions of myself. I ask for the third and final time. Why did you believe in me?"

Martin looked shocked and ashen, but pulled himself together. His Lord was testing him, and he had lived his entire life for this moment.

"I believed because I could feel in my heart it was true. You sent your son to die for us, and I gladly accepted Him as my saviour. I.. I just knew it was true, and now that I see you, my faith has been vindicated. I no longer need to believe - I can see for myself the truth and majesty of my religion."

Quietly, God spoke again. "Martin, you have impressed me". He paused.

"But... not enough. You believe because you were taught to believe. You believe because you mistakenly attribute to me anything positive that has happened in your life, and discount anything negative. You believe because it is comforting to believe, and because you are frightened of the consequences of my not existing. You believe because... you believe. I'm sorry, Martin, but there is no place for you here."

God gestured briefly with his fingers, and Martin vanished. His shadow lingered where he had stood, fading rapidly to nothingness.

The atheist, somewhat shaken by what she had just seen, stepped forward.

"Hello Eve. I like that name."

"Ah. Hello, God. Thanks", said Eve, not entirely sure how to address a being she had, until now, considered fictional.

"Yes, you may call me God. Eve, in life you were an atheist. You doubted my existence, even objecting to the very concept". Again, a statement, not a question.

"Yes, I did. Clearly, I was mistaken."

"Clearly. Tell me, are you still an atheist?"

"I suppose not. I'm not a Christian, Jew or anything else. I guess I'd have to be called an involuntary theist. Ah ha ha", Eve laughed nervously, hoping the very real and solid-looking deity before her had a good sense of humour.

"Mmm... Tell me, Eve. Why did you not believe in me?". God's voice was kind and gentle once more.

"At one point I did. I was raised as a Christian, and often went to church, and prayed every night before bed. When I was feeling down I would read the Bible. The act of reading it seemed to comfort me, even though the words themselves didn't seem much help. I think, like Martin, I believed because I believed."

"And then you lost your faith? You decided I did not exist, and you knew better than those around you? You knew better than your pastor and family?" The voice was losing its kindly edge a little.

"That is one way of looking at it, yes. What I believed did not seem to fit with other things I knew. The Bible clearly could not be literally true, word for word. I knew from biology and paleontology that humans had evolved like all other life, and were not special creations. How life or the universe began, I still don't know, but could not just merely accept 'God did it' as an explanation. I learned about other religions, and how they all claimed a monopoly on truth, happiness and morality. I saw the good done in your name, but I also saw the oppression, genocide and wars. I saw that if people were in need, it was up to us to deal with it, not to rely on heavenly aid.". Eve felt a little braver, but was expecting the traditional thunderbolt any moment. The people behind her, now at the head of the queue, were slowly moving backwards, trying not to draw attention to themselves.

"Yet here you are, before your God, on the final Day of Judgment. Why should I allow you in - a heretic, a disbeliever, an infidel - when your predecessor, devout and faithful, full of love for me, was consigned to Oblivion? Tell me why. Justify your entry to my Paradise."

Eve straightened up, looking God in the face. "Why should you let me in? Because I am better person than you."

If Eve had looked round, she would have seen the entire line of souls, perfectly still and wide-eyed, staring at her in shock.

"What did you say?", enquired God. His voice, though barely audible, caused tremors in the mountain.

Surprised at still being alive, her mouth dry, Eve continued. "I said, because I am a better person. You have shown it yourself already. You told Martin that you watched as his mother became ill and died. You destroyed him for believing for no good reason, when his whole life had been shaped by that belief. Your preachers on Earth encourage unquestioning faith, yet you do not tell us whether that is what you want. You give people no rational basis for belief, and then when they make up their own that is not good enough for you. You listen to our prayers, yet do not answer, leaving people to rationalise events for themselves. People kill and slaughter over trivial differences in doctrine, and you look on. In the churches and temples raised in your glory, children are mentally and physically abused - in your so-called House! All over the world, throughout history, people have murdered each other for believing the wrong thing about God, for believing in the wrong God, or for not believing in any God. The poorest and most helpless people are relentlessly targeted, being told to give what little they have now, for the promise of eternal bliss later. When a person is at his lowest ebb, that is when the smiling missionaries appear, knowing that his life will probably get better naturally and they can give you the credit. In your name, the ends justify the means as long as souls are saved". Eve paused for breath, and continued.

"And you? All-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing? You just sit here and you watch it all... Any person in this line, had they your power, would show greater compassion and morality. You may be God, but you are far from Godliness."

God smiled. "Are you finished? Good. Eve, you have impressed me". He paused. Eve held her breath, shoulders tensing.

"You have impressed me a great deal. You may have believed in me for all the wrong reasons, but you disbelieved for the right reasons. You led a good life, and used the intelligence I give to everybody in the correct way. Even though you came to a conclusion about me that was hopelessly wrong, you came to it in a way that cannot be faulted. You may pass into paradise, Eve, with my blessing."

Eve did not step forward. Instead, she spoke once more. "No, I will not".

"No? You refuse Heaven? You defy my will?" The smile had left God's face again.

"Do you think I would want to spend one more minute, let alone eternity, in your company? You allow people to suffer, sometimes for their entire lives, for no purpose, and then judge them on their reaction. You hide yourself from the world and allow your creations to persecute each other over differing interpretations of the lack of evidence. You see all the pain and ignorance caused in your name, and just sit there as this queue grows daily? And then you have the audacity to punish good people for believing in you 'for the wrong reasons'?"

"Eve. Enough of this. The gates to Paradise are open to you. Be silent now, and enter."

"No. If it is a choice between oblivion and an eternity with a monster like you, I gladly choose oblivion. I ask only one thing, before you destroy me."

"And what is that?" asked God, getting impatient.

"That, if you can, you look me in the eyes as you do it."

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I wont believe it, till I see it.
RomanceRe: How Do Atheists In Nigeria Get Wives/husbands? by ScienceWatch: 9:42pm On Sep 25, 2017
Blackhawk01:
Hian! This your question ehn but atheists are human too na and they are naturally good, realists too, can say that for those have met with. Almost dated one but distance was a huge barrier, pity. sad

Like someone said, just look out for someone who isn't overly religious. Female atheist are kinda rare sha.
You are correct. Thankfully, female Atheists are very rare because females are more intelligent on a deeper level than men.
With the recent release of the shocking Scientific findings of the 22yr long study of Atheists at a German University, female Atheists will disappear completely.

Doctors are shocked at the findings of this 22yr long scientific study of the mental problems of Atheists.

ATHEISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE ! Yes that is the scientific findings.
This is a serious warning to all youth, avoid the scourge of fruitless Atheism. Joining a soccer club will be much more rewarding than
joining Atheism.

Females are less likely to take an Atheist as a partner because of the emotional dangers.
RomanceRe: Porn Is Not Bad by ScienceWatch: 9:05pm On Sep 25, 2017
TheManofTomorrow:
Believe me, I have also been in ur shoes before. Believing porn is not lethal just because I never masturbated or had sex. watching pornography affects us in ways we cant imagine from high libido to memory loss. I am not a thoroughly religious person and so I don't know much about the religious detriment of porn. The cons of watching porn is that it is addicting and can ruin an intelligent mind once being addicted to it. I would have love delve in the different detriment of porns but I won't be able to. I has been months I abstained from watching porn and I daresay I am a whole lot comfortable and whole. You can do it do


And remember I am speaking from deep experience.
Well done. Porn is very destructive to good and wholesome relationships.
The worst danger is spiritual/psychological damage. But for Atheists it does not matter, they only care to fulfill their lust.

Decent Young girls and Women are talking, they warn each other to avoid getting romantically involved with an Atheist.
They know it will all be about anal, in the ears, in the mouth with no care about the dignity of the women. The atheists morality is cold and calculating to only serve their own needs.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by ScienceWatch: 8:53pm On Sep 25, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
okay, you're very correct and in the right
Hopefullandlord is only apologizing to 701eCilana to save his own tread from deletion if she reports the insults.
Real Cowardly behavior I must say.
Christianity EtcRe: My Thoughts And Questions About Religion by ScienceWatch: 8:49pm On Sep 25, 2017
adepeter2027:
You ought to trust me for something; I won't descend so low to the level of throwing profane words back at her.
Mmmm ! It is common knowledge that Atheists never trust other Atheists. I think it is better that way.
RomanceRe: Is It Wrong Or A Sin To Watch Pornography by ScienceWatch: 8:38pm On Sep 25, 2017
adepeter2027:
IF you're the religious type, then porn is a sin
But if you're irreligious like me, then watching porn isn't a SIN
At last, you are make good points on this issue Adeptor.
You cant sin as an Atheist because you dont know what sin is. You cant love because you dont know what love is. And so on .....
RomanceRe: Is It Wrong Or A Sin To Watch Pornography by ScienceWatch: 8:33pm On Sep 25, 2017
Martinez19:
As an atheist, I would say watching it is not a sin. It's when it becomes addictive that is harmful. Long term addiction to porn can cause cognitive impairments. Then you will be having memory losses, forgetfulness, difficulty reading and understanding, inability to concentrate, anxiety and panic attacks etc. Even when you quit, you might still suffer these symptoms as withdrawal which might last many months to two years.

Drug addicts, weed addicts, alcohol addicts report the same thing too.
Mmmmm ! Thanks Martinez19, Now I understand why Gabe had difficulty reading Prof.F. Collins book. He displayed cognitive impairment when he posted his skewed opinion. Then he accused me of trying to make him a believer.
I gently asked him to remain an Atheist. He must never move from where he is.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 8:14pm On Sep 25, 2017
Samsimple:
strong words bro .. I feel ur pain
Yes bro, it is extremely painful to be respectful to a low-level Atheist. All you get in return is
confusion. They are masters of deception. They can easily convince you that 1=3 as you have witnessed from the unregistered Atheist
Johnydon22.

It is best to speak truth calmly and directly to sane people, but speak narrowly and round about to unregistered Atheist to preserve their pretentious ego.

It is most disturbing to see Atheists beating themselves up if they cant find a Christian.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 8:14pm On Sep 25, 2017
Samsimple:
strong words bro .. I feel ur pain
Yes bro, it is extremely painful to be respectful to a low-level Atheist. All you get in return is
confusion. They are masters of deception. They can easily convince you that 1=3 as you have witnessed from the unregistered Atheist
Johnydon22.

It is best to speak truth calmly and directly to sane people, but speak narrowly and round about to unregistered Atheist to preserve their
pretentious ego.

It is most disturbing to see Atheists beating themselves up if they cant find a Christian.
Christianity EtcRe: What Really Happened In 1981? Pastors Adeboye, Oyakhilome, Oyedepo? by ScienceWatch: 7:27pm On Sep 25, 2017
donnie:
thanks!
Yes keep posting Donnie. the world must know the truth that you have experienced.
Christianity EtcRe: The Atheists Church by ScienceWatch:
gabe:
lol, if I could call for tithes and registration too, I would. it's not the exclusive right of someone who attended a 6 month theology program. And if God comes down today, I would ask him why he left so little evidence of his existence.
What do you think God will say to youGabe, after the mountain of evidence in front of you ?
I think God will say to you, "GO TO HELL."

Would you agree. I think you would, you are a smart dude.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 7:22pm On Sep 25, 2017
Samsimple:
ki ki ki ha ha ha 3 account now i see where u are coming from
Wow do you see the mental illness. If 1 =3 then it is a symptom of serious delusion.

Samsimple, you only have one Moniker. Everyone knows that it is impossible to use more than one. Your ip is tracked.

Let me tell you something I have seen very often among low-level unregistered Atheists, if they cant get their dirty way, they start accusing you falsely. That is the nature of the criminal mind.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 7:15pm On Sep 25, 2017
johnydon22:
Obvious
It is too obvious yes !! Lackbizzle (Jackbizzle is a raging Lunatic. But have mercy on him. Mental illness is painful to endure.
Christianity EtcRe: The Atheists Church by ScienceWatch: 7:02pm On Sep 25, 2017
gabe:
lol, typical. I was just waiting for you to resort to insults and innuendo. This just confirms my argument. You want me to believe in God just because Prof Collins says so. Nobody doubts Prof Collins pedigree as one of the foremost scientists of our time. I just said his argument for God was weak based on what I garnered from his book.
Are you really losing it !! Dont delude yourself Gabe. I dont want you to believe in God. Stay where you are !!
I am just dealing with facts.

I doubt that you really read Prof. Collins book. It is really hard to believe an unregistered Atheist. If you disappoint you prophet
Richard Dawkins by ignoring his call for tithes/registration payments, how can we trust you.

Get the book. Read Prof.F. Collins books with out red-glasses. Then express your opinion. But stay where you are Gabe.
Remain an Atheist. I know your type, even if God came down and revealed himself in front of your group you guys will curse and
masturbate.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 6:51pm On Sep 25, 2017
adepeter2027:
Those six monikers are the grand timewasters of this section (tho Butterflyli-on na part-time)
You are right Adepeter2027. remember to add Lackbizzle and Johmydon22 to that damn list.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 6:46pm On Sep 25, 2017
dalaman:
Why are you honouring a person with obvious mental illness with a topic? The best thing is to read his nonsense, laugh and move on.

By the way, where is KingEbukasBlog?
Dalaman it was you that they are honoring with a certificate of Mental Illness.

It is interesting to note that the prophet and FOUNDER of modern atheism, Prof. Richard Dawkins is angry that Atheists are selfish and refuse to pay their basic yearly registration fees. Membership is organized hierarchically in circles/Levels similar to Criminal Scientology's membership scams—depending of course on how much money you pay for his “non-profit” organization—called the “dawkins Circles”. The “Reason Circle,” which is the cheapest option, costs 27,000Niara monthly and offers you discounts on merchandize from the foundation store, such as this cool T-shirt above, and the chance to attend events with “richard dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science personalities.”

It is shocking that 27,000Naira a month atheism tithes/membership fees is too little for the karma you gain from having a private lunch with the “Holy Prophet” himself.

Such a privilege is reserved for top tithing members of the “Evolution Circle” or “The Magic of Reality Circle,” which cost, again 31.4million Naira – $500,000 annually.

Your second statement that mental illness does not follow (non sequitur) from atheism is ridicules in light of the published findings of medical science. atheism IS A mental illness.

Check the shocking findings of a 22yr long study of Atheists, release from a top German university.
It says that Atheism is a mental disease. This release has enabled me to help a few Atheist so far.

Thanks to these findings, even Hond the extremely radical Nairaland Atheist, agrees that his experiences with Atheist friends and family agrees strongly with the scientific findings
that Atheism is a MENTAL ILLNESS.

Now that the world know that ATHEISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE, we should deal differently with these low-level Atheist.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 6:32pm On Sep 25, 2017
Samsimple:
Johnydon22 what are trying to prove by opening this thread
That was my question too.
You may find that Johnydon22 is trying to prove his manhood to his low-level Atheist buddies. It is a common problem when low-level-Atheist troll.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 6:30pm On Sep 25, 2017
johnydon22:
i swear i weak
We all know. No problem Johnydon22, just get some rest.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 6:26pm On Sep 25, 2017
dalaman:
Why are you honouring a person with obvious mental illness with a topic? The best thing is to read his nonsense, laugh and move on.

By the way, where is KingEbukasBlog?
No Offence meant to others. Dalaman, Like a typical low-level unregistered Atheist, you turn every uncomfortable post to suit your own depraved views on life. Have you already conveniently pushed scientific facts aside to suit your own world-view ?
Have you forgotten the most enlightening scientific findings of the 20th Century on the dangers of Atheism ?

To refresh your world-view, I have kindly posted it below ;

A 22-year old study at a German University has shocked many psychiatrists and psychologists throughout the world, wondering if atheism/ deism, agnosticsm is a sign or warning of a more serious mental illness already present or in the process of developing. Atheists or people who are very strident about their atheism are heavily prone to mental illness:

“There were 17,809 people in the study. It was a very large model as far as psychological experiments go.” This came as quite a shock to us as we studied patient after patient.”

The results of this study have unnerved even the most stoic scientists, physicians and researchers.

You must read this butterflylion. It will help you understand the terrible experience when Atheists troll in cowardly groups.
Christianity EtcRe: Can It Get Any Lower? (religious Idiocy) by ScienceWatch: 5:44pm On Sep 25, 2017
adepeter2027:
You don't mean it shocked
DONT TAKE THIS ONE SERIOUS. I mean Hopelesslandlord.
He will soon turn on you and accuse you falsely to save his homeless ass.

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