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[b]EVIDENCE Evidence is the growth of redeemed christain church of God abroad. [/b]look you can go on the redeemed website, they have over 300 churches in the USA along and over 500 in Europe at the moment. And if you put this together over 600 of the pastors are yorubas. And over 70% of that congregation are yorubas.

Love this guy, he loves pulling numbers out of nowhere.

over 80% yoruba youth are jobless, which is higher than the nation average of 30%.

While the North has least jobless rate.

Maybe you are counting cattle rearing as a form of employment

Not plausible really, I doubt there are up to 17-18 million yoruba youths. Close to 10 million-becomrich would be claiming approximately 70% unemployment. Where are the statistics apart from his unsubstantiated assertion?

@sefago: Do you know much about MD/Phd programs? I am starting to look into that now. phd definitely, but Md/phd might be an option. I actually know this ghanian chick that got into jhu for phd in genetics. It's difficult, but they also like to accept qualified minority people. With bio research, you just have to be really good to cut it.

Did she do her undergrad in the US? You know that could be a big factor

Yeah I know a lot about MD/PhD programs- they are usually MSTP programs too and are funded by the government- They are insanely competitive. If you wanna talk more about them let me know.However avoid the MSTPs and look for the MD/PhD programs since this would be easier for funding

Man you are going to be in school for like forever - 7 years/8year

Dont tell you me have caught the "every Nigerian should be a doctor madness"

Actually asha80 it has a lot to do with having access to education really. And yes culture does play a part. A culture of success and praising success.

Funny most of us are praising people though and have nothing to show haha

fstranger3:
Very good question

It has always baffled me. I know, on average, they have the better schools than any other state in the SW

Suck for you right?

I think they had more access to education that other yoruba people, them and lagosians

@eku_bear

As alkready pointed out you need funds to start infrastructure. Also some Nigerian universities and institutes actually do perform some sort of research. Its not just the sort you see in the "developed" world

Biochem/Biomedical fields are a bit different though because most of the PhDs are funded by federal agencies and so very little spots for international students compared to other prgrams.

It would depend on where you are applying to. Some schools are just impossible. Getting into Johns Hopkins for something like Biochemistry would be plain impossible as an international except you are a genius because they are government funded and the number one program in the world. Also you might be required to take the GRE subject test and also most bio-programs require interviews. You would likely be interviewed over the phone.

Programming is important in the biomed field but usually they prefer someone who can do something with it. Like someone who can code program that can determine the secondary structure of a protein or in in fields like bioinformatics which deals a lot with databases.

@SAFEAGO, I recall u asked about MIST for a friend, my friend did a 4.0/5.0 GPA from a State Uni.

Thanks my friend is also from a state university. That sounds encouraging.

^ Oh please

Listen this is how my life was:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7p6inMkT9c&feature=related


Comeon this guy was the king. Witches cannot have done this 

Swagger dey pass swagger 

You love trouble

Look at my sig.

I salute Barack O'grin

^Yes OO, I will be honest the only person on nairaland who I actually respect in terms of intelligence from his comments is Ajanlekoko, seems like a brilliant man the guy.

Awesome this news just made my day



But as usual this news is just to boost Jonathans image as per beaf

It hurts but you are so right, most people on this page are probably done with college, some even NYSC and are just planing for the GRE, not knowing theres so much more than the test. But if this could help even one undergrad, then I guess thats worth something Smiley.
Like I stated in an earlier post there are so many ways to go about it. One very easy way for engineering/science guys in our deficient labs is to accept the "inexpensive" gift of windows (not the one related to door hehehe Cheesy).
1. Learn textbook principles cold.
2. Learn to program in at least one "modern" Cheesy language. Year1 QBASIC just won't cut it anymore, think more like C++, Python or even COMSOL or MATLAB (lol I know some people would die before they accept COMSOL or MATLAB as a language).
Anyways, 3. Add a healthy dose of imagination and you have a deadlysweet combination. You won't suddenly become Feynman overnight but you would become an excellent help to ANY naija lecturer and a valuable addition to MOST US grad research groups.

I dont know if i mentioned this on a previous page, or I thought I should mention it but yeah knowing some programming language without research experience is an extraordinary plus++ especially for certain parts of engineering. MATLAB is kind of basic and eevry engineer uses it (I think, not sure not an engineer). But you can learn coding basic on your own or anywhere in lagos and build up your knowledge from there.

I dont blame Nigerian youths though its lack of exposure- most are not thinking of doing graduate school until they confront the harsh job market in naija.

^ So u mentioned Feynman and Einstein already where are u at then princeton

On a serious note though, most people including Nigerian students think theres no research going on in Nigeria and all our lecturers are not "good" whatever that means.

Actually I know some stuff goes on in Nigeria, and that some lecturers definitely do some research. Most of them are not that ignorant, they keep track of what is going on outside Nigeria and some of them no matter how wicked they are would like to try this things in naija.

Granted most of the papers that get this level of recognition are of a theoretical/mathematical nature. We simply do not have the cutting edge equipment for cutting edge experimental studies.

I figured. Personally, I think nigeria has then brains but not the facilities and that we can aim for higher. yeah even cutting edge research is not that expensive to fund _{if the politicians allocate 1% of what they steal to funding research}

So watch out for those lecturers that like research and gum to them like superglue. Theres so much to learn from them, you could become the next programming/typing/editing/drawing assistant, who knows you may even understand the work enough to make contributions and maybe your name will find itself as a coauthor on one or two papers Grin and when time for recommendation comes its smooth sailing,

Word, I have tolds some of my friends at nigerian universities that even if they cannot currently get a masters abroad they should do one in Nigeria while looking for a way of doing research and then see if they can get a PhD. All of them dont want to listen saying the quality of education is bad yada yada. Everything is bad.

I am still using 95% of what I learned in my secondary school in Nigeria up till now despite the lack of "cutting edge" facilities crap they are always whining about.

However looking for research opportunities is not just a nigerian problem. Its common in other countries too. I think only the US, and maybe Germany and some of those eastern European academic wizards emphasize research at the undergraduate level.

Immediately you get the theory down and you are brilliant you are good. Its just that the Nigerian educational system is not good for olodo people.

In my opinion I believe a high GPA won't hurt.
Also getting a V score (>500), an AWA (>4) with a Q score (>700) should be the minimum target. However the only "official" GRE minimum is the 700Q.
Have very good recommendations and unique admission essay.
One or two papers even if locally published might not be so bad too. Wink

Despite the seemingly low pool of applicants, going by their own statistics MIST programs are very competitive. Most people who get accepted to MIST would probably get admitted to other US schools if they applied.

To stand out (in the minority pool) I guess
A first class GPA (or at least close to the class topper).
1300 GRE (with Q as close to 800 as possible)

Ok, I figured you have to be top of your class or close to it, but what if the guy was ranked like top 5 in his class? I think he mentioned that no one in his class got a first class, not sure.  Also would it be a good idea for the recommenders to mention this in their rec letters? I am sure the guy could get a perfect score in GRE Q. GRE Q is kind of easy if you did a quantitative subject. Yeah I guessed the MIST program would be competitive.

Man where will you publish paper for naija? Now I am interested. Are there like any journals in Nigeria where they publish research papers. Nigeria Journal of epidemiology or something of that nature.

Yeah this is becoming a major problem all over, no jobs for fresh graduates and they keep churning out graduates. US, France, Spain just more and more people going into universities with not enough positions to fill the supply.

I am curious myself to know about how fresh young nigerian graudates are surviving career wise. Like are people still getting jobs or not? And are these jobs insanely competitive or do you have to know someone as per nigerian factor.

congratulations man, we thank god we thank god

email the department and ask then about funding for the program and how many people get funding for masters degree.

Congratulations bros.

@Nknight

As for the MIST, I am asking about the program for one of my friends. He has a 3.9/5.0 but from a state university in nigeria. He has not taken the GRE yet- what do you think are his chances are. how competitive is this program?

what type of GRE score would make them standout?

^ I was joking. Of course I know where Ogbomoso is, just wanted to get one of your abuses again.

Logic tells you that the statement was totally random and I was trying to elicit a response

So post the important people in osun because all I have seen are pastor this, and prince that

Anyone can be a famous pastor (considering its one of the hottest job roles in nigeria) and anyone depending how life deals cards can be born into a royal family

You are also from osun too sebi?

Is ogbomosho in osun?

let me check

You'd better retrace your steps back to Niger before its too late

Bank Anthony is from Ogun, not Lagos.

All black people look alike anyways.

I could have sworn he was from lagos. People referred to him as lagosian

Anyways ogun people dominate the list

bleh u guys beat me to it.

^ So what you want to say ekiti people now own half of lagos

excuses

yeah ekiti is bottom with ondo. While Lagosians like Bank-anthony were raking in millions you guys were still into subsistence agriculture

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adeola_Odutola

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/people/ad.asp?blurb=57

See eminent lagosians and ogun people

Breaks my heart to see dat in all the pages no one from Ondo State has been listed

All story, there really was no origin, just a group of people trying to come to terms with their existence.

In terms of Yoruba people, the hierarchy of states in terms of notable indigenes is:

Ogun & Lagos
Oyo
Osun & Kwara (yes suck it with own that place too)
Ondo and Ekiti

Hmm depends then how do you get informed about what is happening or about the candidate. Illiteracy is just not the ability to read but you will likely be unable to understand the complexities of what the politician is selling you and if he or she is selling you garbage