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wow concentrated yoruba

Anyway, I went to the most famous college in NJ.

Rutgers?

Lucky you, you have someone like me to ask questions, when I was applying, I had no one. Anyway, I will be glad to help you anyway I can.

Stop whining. Get over it

I have always wanted to post on this topic because I am actually interested in the efficacy of democracy in an environment where people do not understand the reasons and consequences of their votes. I was reading a couple of articles on this issue and it got me thinking about democracy or as my friend fela would say democrazy.

Wikipedia just says more than 130; where did you read exactly 180?

Typo. Wow I never knew about him, nice. Learned something new.

And Dumas is one of my favorite writers ever. Little depth, but one of the greatest storytellers ever. I still remember reading the Three Musketeers at 12. Then Twenty Years after and the Vicomte book. And of course, the Count of Monte Cristo.

Well Dumas was not trying to write something deep or soul-searching like Dostoevsky. His stories were biographical in nature and quite entertaining. More like a children's version of Tolstoy and less boring. Three Musketeers was sickkkkk still the greatest book I have read (read it a 1000 times), I hated Count of Monte Cristo though because I usually feel sympathetic towards villains (any subconscious explanations)

^ LOL.

But you should have chopped the bait. I would have donated my abuses freely in yoruba, pidgin, igbo and english. I was really looking forward to practise the igbo abuses I have been learning.

Ok stop the whining? Yeah Africans are bad, yeah we are corrupt. Yeah we are this and that. I have heard it all before.

So whats your solution?

@PhysicsRND

those are recognizable names if you have lived in nigeria. However you are correct- we should check what they have done

Someone included Kanayo O Kanayo  

So just put all the Nillywood movie stars since nollywood is dominated by igbos

Holy crap the guy actually had 180 patents to his name

WOW

Nchara which you one you get?

Instead of emulating this guy instead of engaging in tribal battles

Sefago, you are lucky I don't enjoy being nasty. I was expecting you to reply, but you didn't. So, I had to eat the humble pie.

No, you are lucky I am not aggressive to whiners who speak not of what they know not. Especially someone who lacks the perspicacity to make the ignorant claim that Nigeria lacks  intellectual capital. Your situation as you correctly pointed out is not that of most Nigerians. Moreover several Nigerians have risen above this and have lived worse experiences than you could imagine and instead of whining like a little b/i/t/ch about the little they had, they made use of the little they did to do great things. You are no different from the system you criticize, one which is unable to see great potential but quick to wallow self-pity.

I think its fair to point out that there is a difference between paucity of intellectual capital and under-utilization of that capital.

Learn to use a dictionary mate  

The Angolans I believe have a functioning embassy in Nigeria. Sentiments aside, the Angolans must've first hand experience of Nigeria and her glorious 'engineering' capacity etc. Why are the Nigerian engineers 'hustling' for work/contracts in neighbouring Angola if all is well at home?

Yeah but that does not mean they would facilitate skilled work visas for Nigerians or would they be willing they be ready to ease the movement of skilled Nigerians ready to move to Angola. Trust me if you decided to draw up the number of graduate nigerian engineers living in nigeria looking for work in naija you would be aware that supply surpasses demand. And most people know that of one of the few fields in Nigeria- engineering is the best organized.

Have Nigeria suddenly become very developed/ saturated? Everyone has a choice to peddle their skills in the 'free' market place especially in Africa but is it really the case here? Perhaps the Nigerian Engineers are frustrated in their own home after all we have so much work to do at home. Don't we?

I am talking of job opportunities.

Our oil/gas industry are manned by 'oyibo' people and asians and we cannot deny that fact. The french even have their own 'village' and soon or later we'll definitely have a proper 'china' town too.

They are manned by oyibo people because of our government policies that have not enforced the development of the industry by nigerian citizens. Their is no protectionism in Nigeria and its quite unfortunate.

Anyways you missed the point. I am saying their are Nigerians capable of providing engineers and oil workers in Angola. Yes they might not have the capital to invest and start a company or infrastructure that you are talking about. I am just saying that maybe makinga policy that encourages africans in the industry as opposed to Portuguese might be better.

@ ola olabiy
I saw everything you wrote oooh . . . you are lucky that I have made the resolution to just ignore people.

^ Yeah i dont trust most of those things you see. Most afrocentrist like to claim people though it makes sense a lot of people have african ancestry.

Another famous quadroon that is rarely know to be part black was the literary giant Alexander Dumas.

Percy Lavon Julian? Never heard of him, would read up on him. I dont know most of the famous american chemists though in general because americans later in the field of science relative to the europeans who dominated it uptill the (1970s)

Finally?

All that remains now to complete your profile is your state of origin and primary school!

Ode, you be fool ooh  .  What state are you from?

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@Sefago,
No, Eleganza boss, Okoya, is a core Lagosian, original omo eko. It is his friend and another giant industrialist, Samu Adedoyin of Doyin group that is from Kwara.

Really never knew Adedoyin was from kwara. Hmm I knew his kids they actually went to Olashore funny. Still dont know how he made their money  .

yeah right

What about minorities?

Seems the only one that cares about minorities on nairaland

I would wager that most of who the igbo and yoruba people claim by force are Edo and deltans

Any fellow ACS in nairaland?

Why do you wanna know?

Most people there dont look black ooh!!

the eleganza boss guy is from kwara i think.

Yeah Ogun and Lagos are probably the most prominent for Yoruba people
Anambra for igbo people
Hausa?? I dont know anything about them

I differ on Nigeria does not have the intellectual capital. I have heard that some Nigerian engineers have been trying to penetrate the Angolan market for sometime but they have not been able to because of they prefer "expatriates" (aka non-Africans except from south africa). I dont see much what a chinese can do honestly that most talented Nigerian engineers cannot do.

I think we have the intellectual capital but most people find it hard to penetrate the international job or skilled market from Nigeria and most Nigerians abroad are quite happy typing on nairaland complaining about everything instead of taking the bull by horn.

That is the way it is in Africa.

What disdain for the continent that probably provided you your primary and secondary school education. Are you part of the lacking intellectual capital?

Do you have pics of Ileke-Idi?

Where are they? Send them to my inbox, then we can trade

Anyways:

http://www.usafricaonline.com/2009/12/19/sanusi-debating-colonization-northern-nigeria-domination/

It was actually by sanusi, CBN governor- not really a big fan but I would point out to those people who criticized his article or plan to:

I dont think he was being defensive about the North. Yes, the North have been given the legacy to rule and the quota system in Nigeria does allow the North some juicy positions. But their mis-rule was aided and abetted by Yoruba and Igbo thieves period. It is also likely that due to their islamic heritage- something that jenifa failed to highlight- the North would not have been the prime place for the British to develop. This Islamic education would have made the North less willing to accept western education which they probably linked to British Christianity. There is no difference in the potential of the North but in their culture, a culture which unfortunately might possibly be incompatible with entrepreneurship, independence, and a quest for education and self-reflection. The first step would be to change that culture.

The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two at independence). What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North).”

I do agree with this statement actually. If the North had been educated, Nigeria might have been the real Giant of Africa. Now things are already too late to change. Most northerners who get an education do quite well.

Also he has evidence, we dont, we are just speculating

Hilarious thread, i just had to laugh when I read the comment about demons being registered as voters   . , oh my

2. Like I said earlier, hausa states were more organized from the british point of view. They choose the north as the seat of government because of their relatively organized structure compared to ours and the igbos'. I actually thought this was common knowledge. This was why we had indirect rule. The idea started with Luggard in Northern Nigeria like Aboki already mentioned.

I think the issue here is semantics. the Hausa states were not "organized" the way you are putting. I think you mean more "centralized" than the the igbo and yoruba and other ethnic groups. The igbos were quite organized but did not practice the type of government which would have been susceptible to indirect rule.

Also let's keep in mind that Hausa states don't have important mineral or natural resources. By important, I mean resources that are important to western world. ie cocoa, palm oil and now petroleum oil.
So there wasn't much incentive to develop those states. like the southern nigeria when it was under colonial rule.

I dont think is true. There is something wrong with this statement that I havent figured it out yet. Anyways Read this article a bit:

Here:

“Let me start by saying that I am Fulani. My grandfather was an Emir and therefore I represent all that has been talked about this afternoon. Sir Ajayi has written a book. And like all Nigerians of his generation, he has written in the language of his generation.”

“My grandfather was a Northerner, I am a Nigerian. The problem with this country is that in 2009, we speak in the language of 1953. Sir Olaniwun can be forgiven for the way he spoke, but I can not forgive people of my generation speaking in that language.”

“Let us go into this issue because there are so many myths that are being bandied around.”

Before colonialism, there was nothing like Northern Nigeria. Before the Sokoto Jihad, there was nothing like the Sokoto caliphate. The man from Kano regard himself as Abakani. The man from Zaria was Abazasage.

The man from Katsina was Abakani. The kingdoms were at war with each other. They were Hausas, they were Muslims, they were killing each other.

“The Yoruba were Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akoko, Egba. When did they become one? When did the North become one? You have the Sokoto Caliphate that brought every person from Adamawa to Sokoto and said it is one kingdom. They now said it was a Muslim North.

“The Colonialists came, put that together and said it is now called the Northern Nigeria. Do you know what happened? Our grand fathers were able to transform to being Northerners. We have not been able to transform to being Nigerians. The fault is ours.

Tell me, how many governors has (the) South West produced after (the region’s leader Obafemi) Awolowo that are role models of leadership? How many governors has the East

produced like (Nigeria’s first ceremonial president from the area) Nnamdi Azikiwe that can be role models of leadership?

How Many governors in the Niger Delta are role models of leadership?

Tell me. There is no evidence statistically that any (part) of this country has produced good leaders.

You talk about (former military President of Nigeria, Ibrahim) Babangida and the economy. Who were the people in charge of the economy during Babangida era? Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu. What state are they from in the North?

“We started the banking reform; the first thing I heard was that in Urhobo land, that there will be a course of the ancestors. I said they (ancestors) would not answer. They said why? I said how many factories did (Cecilia) Ibru (of Oceanic Bank) build in Urhobo land? So, why will the ancestors of the Urhobo people support her?

“We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said

elections were rigged in 1959, (former military ruler and later civilian President Olusegun) Obasanjo and (INEC Chairman) Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not.

“The problem is: everywhere in this country, there is one Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba and Itshekiri man whose concern is how to get his hands on the pie and how much he can steal.”

Whether it is in the military or in the civilian government, they seat down, they eat together. In fact, the constitution says there must be a minister from every state.”

“So, anybody that is still preaching that the problem of Nigeria is Yoruba or Hausa or Fulani, he does not love Nigeria. The problem with Nigeria is that a group of people from each and every ethnic tribe is very selfish. The poverty that is found in Maiduguri is even worse than any poverty that you find in any part of the South.

The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two at independence). What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North).”

“I have spent the better part of my life to fight and Dr. (Reuben) Abati knows me. Yes, my grandfather was an Emir. Why was I in the pro-democracy movement fighting for June 12? Is (Moshood) Abiola from Kano? Why am I a founding director of the Kudirat Initiative for Nigerian Development (KIND)?

“There are good Yoruba people, good Igbo people, good Fulani people, good Nigerians and there are bad people everywhere.

“That is the truth”.

“Stop talking about dividing Nigeria because we are not the most populous country in the world. We have all the resources that make it easy to make one united great Nigeria. It is better if we are united than to divide it.”

“Every time you talk about division, when you restructure, do you know what will happen? In Delta, Area, the people in Warri will say Agbor, you don’t have oil. When was the Niger Delta constructed as a political entity? Ten years ago, the Itshekiris were fighting the Urhobos. Isn’t that what was happening? Now they have become Niger Delta because they have found oil. After, it will be, if you do not have oil in your village then you can not share our resources.”

“There is no country in the world where resources are found in everybody’s hamlet. But people have leaders and they said if you have this geography and if we are one state, then we have a responsibility for making sure that the people who belong to this country have a good nature.”

“So, why don’t you talk about; we don’t have infrastructure, we don’t have education, we don’t have health. We are still talking about Fulani. Is it the Fulani cattle rearer or is anybody saying there is no poverty among the Fulani?

^ I guessed as well, most Nigerians are heading there to look for jobs as opposed to bringing anything new anyways.

So sad if NNPC had  managed to monopolize oil profits with little involvement of foreign companies, they could have had enough funds to start buying oil blocs in angola and then enhance Nigerian colonization of africa 

Thanks to kidnapping, militancy, and PIB, they've slowed down somewhat.

LOL, well that could be one way of looking at it. Most of these expatriates are daft lol and definitely not skilled workers. I met a couple of french engineers from Total and those guys were dumb as bricks. Then they were telling me how corrupt my country was and I wanted to beat the hell out of them. Lucky they are white

I hope they are rejecting them oyibo visa fine fine.

What confuses me is this though- I heard that the Angolan government is very strict about the hiring of expatriates. Apparently for every 1 expatriate they hire, they are required to hire 4-5 Angolans at equivalent rates. Its difficult for Nigerians to access the angolan market and even ghana because of the visa requirements and now they are giving europeans

What happened to african solidarity?

I agree. Kalokalo, in Nigeria people put down the cash for these houses at once. Like honestly they just drop the dough once and for all.

bros naija people don surpass levels man. I dont know anyone who buys their houses on mortgage. Mortgage na oyibo financial tool.

Also this has been going on for years before the US craze- I had the opportunity just before yawa burst to watch some Nigerians partaking in the credit craze in maryland, new jersey and florida- buying houses on credit and then renting them out to people to pay the mortgages back on the other houses. Sick stuff, it was like gambling.


Also in terms of houses as investment in Nigeria- I partially disagree. The fact is that people in Nigeria love to build there own houses instead of buying them off someone, so even if you buy tons of houses as investments they cannot be easily converted to cash. Most people would prefer to buy land (so land is really more of an asset) in a prime area than buy land with an already built structure. So thats why I think buying houses in multiple locations except you plan to rent them could be a bit excessive.

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Tho I'm spending mines studying for my exam(s)  Cry[/s]

Good girl, when we marry we can share the household bills together. Pro-equality, 50-50, bring in all that dough. I love independent women.

The UK is poor?

No they are cash strapped. They are more like the billionaires in Nigeria who owe money to banks, and less like the beggars you see in Lagos. So is every western nation anyways. Broke and borrowing from each other expecting one to pay first before they can pay their debts to the others.

But trust me if they had the colonisation advantage they would be able to pay their bills pronto

how can you spend money studying for exams. why are you mugu-ing the poor guy?

LOL americana she means spending time studying

Ha, I nearly forgot, happy valentine my Ekiti lollipop

_{Still saving money for your valentine gift}

Bianca's father was very rich I heard

Jamaica, Trini, ST KItts and Nevis, Barbados

Is Jenifa just trolling around?

so the slaves that were returned to sierra leone and liberia. did they come from britain?

Not all, some came as far as brazil

so who are the active mods here on nairaland?

Welcome to NL, its exactly like Nigeria. No laws

But in all hoensty though- Most of the Mods are sleeping right now you know there is a time difference between the US, Europe and Nigeria you know.

They will answer you tmrw. They will probbaly ban fstranger but he will resurrect using one of is usernames.

Just deal with it. Ignore him.  

I really dont want Jenifa to have a bad opinion of us. Seems she is very american.

On behalf of fstranger I apologize. And I will try and convince him not to stalk or follow you around. However, I cannot guarantee that the other jobless men on NL will not be stalking you around.

However, you will likely have to get used to certain behaviors that might be alien to you. I personally dont believe though that you are new to this forum but that is another matter especially if you are capable of using the word mugu. But then that is another matter.

Why does everyone dislikes tpia ?

me neither she seems very sensible actually. She just like one of the few women on NL politics section- what is there not to hate?

I think the only person that doesnt like her is Beaf. Honestly her dialogues with beaf are classics hehe

[quote author=tpiah! link=topic=604602.msg7726326#msg7726326 date=1297648027]oh, I am the witch, right?

anyway, i dont have your time.[/quote]Feyin e



I was only joking ooh  

Let me answer what I know of "jenifa"


-have you ever been to nigeria.

yeah she grew up in nigeria a bit and then left before taking Junior WAEC. Never returned home after that

-are your parents nigerian.

Yes they are. See the above.

-were you born and/or raised overseas.

No, but she was raised for most of her life overseas. Apparently she is also a teacher.

Tpia, I think you should be more observant. I personally have a memory file on everyone I encounter on nairaland.

The question is, why can't they convert all the money USA is owing them into assets? This can help make light the burst

LOL, thats very simplistic.

ok, more questions, and thanks for answering.


-have you ever been to nigeria.

-are your parents nigerian.

-were you born and/or raised overseas.

Answer these questions at your own peril, if you want a visit from madame Tpia tonight

Woohoo (Tries to make the weird noise that is common in nollywood movies whenever there is a winch scene)

if dem born you well, abuse me again.

Ok, they say curiosity killed the cat. Well hope not this time- what will happen if he abuses you?

You get Jazz or you be winch  

Kai if you possess any of the above

I was only asking ooh