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If you dont want who pays the piper to dictate parts of the tunes, then we shall see if the tune will continue to play itself...

Hmmm! the man said he lost his two children, no condolences from Obama...

Educated yoga students showing their stunts

Opharhe:
Nigerian politics ehn.

The more you look, the less you see.

Opharhe:
Nigerian politics ehn.

The more you look, the less you see.

ChessEnthusiast:
"Visit Ijaw, Ogoni, Kalabari, Ndoni, Okrika, thank them for their magnanimity of over five decades of continued feeding Nigerians from their wealth, while they are hungry.
Let them know you feel for those years of plunder without a plough back."

I endorse this!

The ND regions have fed this Nigeria for years. I think it's high time we appreciated them. God bless the South South and Niger Delta.

@Topic.. lovely write-up. I used to have pity for BAT but not anymore when I did my research and found out that there is no time at all in history when this guy pursued any Yoruba interest. He was quick to hail the withdrawal of the forgery case against Saraki and the IPod Igbo. Like seriously? That was the height of Afonjanism!
nonsense.

There is a good reason for him hailing the withdrawal of forgery case against saraki/ekweremadu. Its the beginning of the great RE STRATEGISING he's started already. If the current cabal is trying to buy the middle belt/southeast/southsouth over through Saraki/ekweremadu, then this means Asiwaju is 'on point' to have hailed the withdrawal also. This is because the new Realignment that is been worked on currently has its strong hold in the south and the middle belt. And either we like it or not, these two men have some major followership among their people.

For now, this is the reality of nigerian politics. Asiwaju would have dealt himself a major blow if he had not contested the 'Bridge Building' with the cabals by not also hailing the withdrawal. im sure both Saraki and Ekweremadu got the signal already. Forming one anti corruption agent doesn't cut it right now, a very serious and jealous bridge building is needed seriously.

I must say that the moment I read Tinubu hails the withdrawal...my respect for Asiwaju doubled immediately because I understood he's back on the field working on his plan B instantly.

MuttleyLaff:
Then God said,
"Let the earth produce vegetation: plants bearing seeds, each according to its own type,
and fruit trees bearing fruit with seeds, each according to its own type." And so it was.
- Genesis 1:11

I would curse a worthless living thing to death, especially if in due season, it is not useful, not beneficial, not positively productive and not fruitful

It will be good riddance.

The tree, as seen in Genesis 1:11 above, was already blessed, in line with,
there is an appointed time for everything, like the appointed time to pluck fruit buds from that fig tree

So are you saying a woman who is suffering from barrenness and she's now growing old... has no place in your own creed and should be cursed?

otunba1donly:
The man Asiwaju is a political curriculum studied by all with keen interest in his political antecedents.so all the shots fired towards him are mere academic reshearches done to learn using the curricullum.the man can never be finished politically.long live Asiwaju ,long live the jagaban bogul .
on your mandate,we shall stand ,we shall stand ,on your mandate we shall stand ,on your mandate bola ,on your mandate we shall stand.

On your mandate! Bola!!
On your mandate! Bola!!
On your mandate we shall stand!!
Mandate!! We lead others follow!!!

hmmm!

*Tompolo was paid 13Billion.
* Ex-CDS,Alex Badeh dug a pit toilet to hide $32m.
* Patience Jonathan is claiming $31m, she has sued the Nigerian state.
* Femi Fani-Kayode took 740M.
* Dasuki used trucks to load over $35B from the CBN.
* Olisa Metuh took 400M.
* Aziboala, GEJ's cousin took 6B naira.
* Nenadi Usman took 3.5B naira.
* Fayose took 3B naira.
* Obanikoro took 4Billion naira.
* Olu Falae took 100M naira.
* Tony Anenih - 400M naira.
* Oritsejafor - $35M
* Former Air Chief Amosu - 2Billion naira.
* Lucky Igbinedion-16B naira.
*Bode-George and Dabo -100B naira
* Jolly Nyame-2.4B naira.
* Joshua Dariye-700M naira.
*Nyesom Wike stole #4b.
* Diezzani with $20 billion missing oil money?
15 billon dollars missing from arms fund, 10 billion naria, converted to dollars and given as gift to delegates of PDP Nation convention, Bafarawa collected 3 billion for spiritual purposes , 12. 7 billon naria for deceased NEPA staff grow wings and disappeared, 20 billion dollars missing from NNPC accounts, 23 billon naira as bribe to INEC staffs to rig the general election. The list is endless. They only left what they can't carry or unable to lay their hands on. The list continues.....
Recession didn't just happen, people looted Nigeria into happening....

NOW HEAR THE THIEVES:

1. I acted based on Jonathan's instruction - Dasuki

2. I didn't give order - Jonathan

3. I collected 350M from Dasuki for consultation - Iyorchia Ayu

4. I only collected $30,000 from Dasuki not N100m - Bode George

5. I got N4.6b from Dasuki for spiritual purposes - Bafarawa

6. I got N650M from Dasuki for my Abuja burnt office - Thisday Obaigbena.

7. I got N2.1b from Dasuki for publicity - Dokpesi

8. I got another N100m from Yuguda he didn't tell me from where - Bafarawa.

9. I gave N100m each to Odili, Jim Nwobodo Bode George and others - Yuguda

10. The president asked me to change N10B to foreign currency for PDP delegates - Dasuki

11. My boss asked me to get $11M from the CBN - Dasuki's account officer.

12. I got order from above to pay Tompolo N13B for Maritime university land. - Nimasa DG.

13. 950m was shared in my house -- Shekarau

With all this looting and many more revealed some people are still shouting no sign of change yet, they even say it's political persecution.

But I believe, it is the right thing to do.
If you believe too, send this to other people to garner more support for the fight against corruption and looting in our nation. There must be consequence for crime otherwise Nigeria will not develop.

honeychild:
Please o, was Dangote given an exclusive license to build refineries? Why is no other Nigerian doing so? I know we have other billionaires who can afford such a project.

Please pardon my ignorance, I am genuinely curious.

some of our billionaires already have refineries abroad...and are benefiting from the current situation of the country.

1. Over $4 billion worth of equipment currently sits on the site.
2. The project is slated to cost $14 billion (N2.8 trillion) of which Dangote is contributing $7 billion in equity.
3. The project site is larger than Victoria Island. It is located on 2135 hectares of land in Epe, Lagos near the Lekki Free Zone
4. It is the largest industrial complex in Africa
5. Work goes on, on the site, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week
6. World Record 2.72 million accident free hours recorded on site, without a single lost time to injuries
7. It is the largest single train grass roots refinery in the world with a processing capacity of 650,000 BPSD
8. Dangote Group brought in the world’s #1, #2, and #5 sand dredgers to sand fill the site. 60% of the land being swampy. So far these dredgers have reclaimed 13 million m³ out of 30 million m³
9. During construction, the project will employ over 25,000 Nigerians
10. When this project comes online, Nigeria will save a minimum of $10 billion a year on imports
11. The Ammonia component of the plant will produce 2.8 million tonnes of Urea
12. Dangote is producing its own electricity to power the plant and by so doing is saving 75% costs. Dangote produces electricity at a rate that is significantly cheaper than the Federal Government. Dangote’s cost is $400,000/MW, while Federal Government is $2,000,000/MW
13. All the civil engineering is done by Nigerian companies
14. The plant has an export value of $6 billion per annum, meaning Dangote’s effort will increase the amount of foreign exchange in Nigeria’s foreign reserves by at least 40% of current value on a yearly basis
15. Dangote said when this project comes on line, his friend Femi Otedola will save at least N26 per litre on millions of litres of diesel and petrol which his companies import annually. This savings will be passed on to the consumers and it will take a lot of pressure off the banks
16. Billions of Naira were paid to acquire the land and to settle the existing communities. More money was also allocated and spent to relocate the existing communities
17. This project will restore the dignity of Nigeria, a crude producing country that has for years gone abroad to meet its demand for refined products
18. Refined products to be produced at the plant include but is not limited to propane, petrol, Jet Fuel, Diesel, Kerosene, Carbon Black, Polypropylene, Polyethylene
19. The United States Trade and Development Agency is supporting this project with $997 million.

Copied: from Nigerian Renaissance Youths

Knowledge9000:
I don't think he is powerful is just that Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani tend to be very demure and respectful to someone in their societies who has risen above board notwithstanding if he or she is right or wrong...they will be loyal to that person. The cultural reverence that come with the throne of Obas, Onis and Emirs also makes it easier for them to control the people. With Igbos...it's impossible as they are not used to having powerful people! Igbo society is naturally and culturally an egalitarian society....everyone is equal! Have you heard of a powerful Igbo man before? Lol. The only way you will be powerful to Igbos is if you are fighting for their freedom...as in Ojukwu and Nnamdi Kanu, then you are talking otherwise you are just an ordinary person no matter your wealth and political clout.

You are actually mixing things up...there is a difference between been objective and been sentimental as an ethnic group. While been objective means a people will follow you after a careful observation and analysis that you actually mean well. The moment you start to derail from been progressive, you are immediately discarded and the same people will turn against you even if it means supporting a 'no body' against you. In other words, their support for you is not because you are their king or because you are rich and influential, they give you their support simply because you are doing what is sensibly right.

While in the other side of the coin, you secure a permanent support from them the moment you are able to constantly oil their ethnic or religious sentiment.. but the moment you try to be rational with them you immediately start facing rejection.

frank317:
Listen to ur self... u believe God has given man all the intelligence he needs yet u think prayer is needed for man to express his wish to God.

Pls how reasonable is the above.

'prayer is needed for man to express his wish to God'
This statement is like saying... ' prayer is needed for man to pray to God"

Tell me why man need to express his wish to God when u hve concluded it's irrelevant...since we have all the intelligence we need to better our lives and God's will must also be done despite our prayers.

I never said prayer is irrelevant...prayers apart from its spiritual angle, is also an important psychological motivations we need as humans. Now add that to all the already sleepless nights a student passes through while reading for instance, there, you have a very high spirited and happy student. I don't want to talk about the spiritual aspects yet since you seem not to believe in spirituality. However your disbelief in spirituality doesn't make a supreme supernatural force non existent.An animal doesn't pray for instance, so its all goes back to the issue of this gift of consciousness from God.

I tell you my friend, what we are currently experiencing in the world today will be a child's play if Atheism is to be the popular belief...

frank317:
Perhaps his asking questions about God and concern that the blind boy didn't get healed is part of God's plan too.

I really don't get your point... where does God cone in and where does he not?

A boy didn't get healed after prayer.... his parents are still sad and even the blind boy is sad... and someone is feeling bad and askin questions about it. You sit in the comfort of ur home and said the op shuold stop questioning something that gave him concern. He should go and drink zobo and groundnut... the boys case is part of God's plan.

Yet even if the concerned OP gets money and donate for the boys surgery after prayer didn't work... it's also part of God's plan....

Its a win win situation for your God right? He should have then shut up and not make promises he can't keep in the Bible

Maybe you skipped this part of my post:
"in the case of a boy without anus, people living withdeadly diseases, and so on, it is our responsibility
to make sure we provide adequate medical help to
them. after all our efforts, whatever happens my
friend, is meant have happened."

Sadly does it mean all of you ( geesampower, frank317 and lepasharon) pretend like you didn't read what I explained about the gift of intelligence to man from God?


Prayer is needed to express our wishes to God....yet we still have to work towards whatever our wishes in life are. After much struggle (physically and mentally) and prayer, whatever we get is exactly what we are meant to get. That is part of the complexities of life.


It doesn't make any sense to build your belief in God on direct intervention (miracles-like what you guys fantasize) from him.Also far more ridiculous is to know that for a fact an ordinary mobile phone can never evolve on itself. Not to talk of a far more complex human and the entire galaxy.


Actually your former belief failed you doesn't mean God does not exist.

geesampower:
Na wa o!
You are yet to answer his questions. There are 4 direct questions there.

Abeg pick them and answer. You dribbled and avoided them claiming doctors have to do their jobs. So if that baby dies before the parents can pay for the surgery, whose fault is it. Why can't they just pray and the God miraculously give the baby an anus? At least that would save a lot of money and stress and then we can all be happy?

praying to God to operate the boy when you already have his gift of intelligence that made you invent various medical practices that can correct the boy's situation?.

My holistic reply has answered all his questions unless you want me to start numbering like kindergarten.

HardMirror:
Which one should we believe? Is God a god that answers His children? Yes or No. All I see here are excuses not to hold God accountable for his so called promises in the bible.

I will yet again bring up the issue of the baby born without anus.

Oh yes God is not emotional He does things for a purpose you claim. Hmmm. Nice.

So God created this baby without an anus, I am sure he did it to maintain the balance of the ecosystem just as you claim in your post right?

Then you also said we should not interfere with the balance God is trying to maintain.

Ok so we should leave the baby to die of accumulated toxins that would result from his inability to defecate?

Are you if doctors should operate on this baby they are interfering with God's original plan for the baby to die? Because it is obvious if we pray for the baby God won't do shiit even though you claim he created the baby and you will also claim God loves the baby, yet he will allow that baby to die a painful death?

Now it is making sense to me. Maybe God also created you with the inability to reason so the ecosystem will be balanced. Having too many smart people will be bad.

Answer me regarding that baby and other babies born crippled, born with heart defects, born with down syndrome, born with cancer, born with brain defects, born dumb, born deaf, born with 3 legs, born with 2 heads, born with 2 sex organs etc

How many of them has God restored? How many have surgeons fixed?

1.Does it mean surgeons are more capable than God?

2. Or does it mean surgeons are more compassionate than God?

3.Or does it mean Surgeons are Interfering with God?

But if you read my post carefully Hardmirror, I've covered your questions already. read the part about "the flight", there I said, all the agencies, the pilots, and even the passengers have to work to make sure they have a safe flight. further I said also that the government has to investigate the cause of the crash in other to avoid such in the future. However after doing what we are supposed to do as humans, whatever happens ULTIMATELY is the best for that moment.
The best thing doesn't have to be what we like.
in the case of a boy without anus, people living with deadly diseases, and so on, it is our responsibility to make sure we provide adequate medical help to them. after all our efforts, whatever happens my friend, is meant have happened.


Do you realised that the so called science itself is among those miracles from God you so much want to experience. in my last post I said God can perform miracle through any of his creatures. then I also said our consciousness as humans is the greatest weapon we possess. With our intelligence, without asking for God's direct intervention we can sort ourselves out. Miracles steers you in the face in science. The gift of intelligence which God created and imbedded into man in other to make him survive in his environment. Prophet Muhammad (saw) once told his companions that : "when a man can listen to himself talking, then the HOUR is near". those people around him 1400 years ago believed that would be a miracle. But in this age, it appears normal to us...i can simply record my voice and playback...not knowing it's part of God's miracles using us to perform through the gift of intelligence. But you rather want to see a mighty angelic figure from the skies or a face appearing from heaven commanding the boy anus to have holes immediately. If we will get such direct help everytime then what's the use of our intelligence?


You may also want to bring up the atheist argument that our intelligence is as a result of evolution. But how come its only the human specie that is able to evolve into been intelligent and rational. How come other animals who have been in existence millions of years before humans are yet to possess this powerful weapon?


Again I have to repeat, so much emphasis and importance placed on direct miracles from God leads you to your present state.

Hello Hardmirror,


indeed I salute your efforts in simply being human. our consciousness is no doubt the greatest weapon we possess as humans.


this whole concept of God and human relationship I will advice will be best understood by going for a SAFARI holidays (if you can afford it ofcourse. if you cant, pay more attention to the wild life documentaries on your local cables). you will realize that the SAFARI guides will instruct you never to interfere with whatever wildlife behavior you may experience in the wild. it's for your own safety first, but the ultimate reason is because whatever happens in the wild is exactly what makes the wild "alive" and "balances" the entire ecosystem. for instance, it's may be so terrifying to you to see a lion tearing a cute baby deer to pieces but if deers are left to proliferate, it may turn out harmful to the entire ecosystem. Hence, predators such as lions are natural agent to check their population.


Now coming to our own 'world' as humans with consciousness and all sorts of emotions. the sight of a boy without anus or famine ravaged community, or a blind man from birth...is really disturbing. While it becomes necessary for us to offer some help, it might just be the best thing for that particular time or situation. for instance, you missed your flight and it hurts you so much only to discover that the same flight crashed later. I know the next you will say is ; " so those who all died in the crash are not humans abi?!...you see my friend, the best thing aren't always what we like or desire. one of the passengers might be a very good person and a look into his future life, he might later turn evil. So death at that time might be the best thing for him to end it up on goodwill. Another passenger might be a hired assassin who has to go take the life of an innocent man...Even though it is necessary for all the agencies including the pilots and even passengers to make sure they have a safe flight...Also necessary for the authority to investigate the cause of the crash in other to avoid such later,whatever happens ultimately is the best at that particular time.


The problem with your former faith is that it pays so much emphasis on MIRACLES AND WONDERS...there is no way such faith won't continue to record situations like yours. Even though miracles exist, God occasionally performs miracles through any of his creatures when VERY NECESSARY. just in the case of war situation in a country, and the elephants were all killed for their ivory in other to purchase arms during the war. After the war, the government may result to buying elephants from other countries and reintroduced to the wild to balance the ecosystem again. if the animals in the SAFARI were humans and the government is God, you can see it's a necessary miracle because there's no way elephants would have gotten back to that wild without the intervention of a higher power because the elephants have been totally wiped out during the the war. Now in the case of you and your colleague "forcing" the poor dumb boy to speak, how do you determine at that time it is necessary for the boy to speak and that is the best thing for him.


So in essence my brother, you cannot force God to act out of your own ordinary human emotional feelings.


Think about this then we go next to "why there must be a God and the universal concept of God".


Thanks.

2200

What I mean is... I have not seen in Nigeria,any female who is employed as a driver of a family, an individual,an institution or even in government institutions. Please share your experience if you've seen one. It will be interesting to know.

muafrika:
No problem.

I believe that too. And that spirits do age. They get wounded, etc. There are spirits/demons which are lame, dumb, blind, mute etc.

40, 000yrs? I hope we'll be in a good place in the nonexistence. The bible is silent on the period after the reign of Christ, which is the next age that we expect on earth, but silent on life when God shall take rule. Just that there will be a literal new heaven and new earth. Our prophecies are mostly about our age.

That's it my brother...we learn new things everyday.

ifenes:
How do you come about God has no beginning and no end?

I understand where you are coming from...but the most logical angle is to believe there is an "UNCAUSED CAUSE"

muafrika:
How long would that lifespan be? Thousands of years? Ages. Angels like Michael were mentioned by Enoch and still referred to in future prophecies by prophets like Daniel and John.

Men have spirits, which do not die when their flesh dies, and similarly angels/demons who are spirit from their beginning cannot die. Not in the sense of shutting down their bodily functions and decomposing back (to what?)

Sorry for the very late reply.

Exactly! their lifespan can last for even millions of years. So its possible for them to be around during the time of all the prophets yet still be around today. That doesn't mean they can not die.

You see, if you go by all calculations you will come to understand. Firstly, going by the logic of all the three major religions (Islam, Christianity and Judaism), you will discover that everybody believes God is the only IMMORTAL. This simply means everything has its expiring date except God. Even in the Yoruba traditional religion Orishas do die. that's why when a particular orisha stops granting people's requests even after meeting all obligations...it is presume the orisha is dead and therefore worshippers stop worshipping that particular Orisha.

In the Islamic faith, it is believed that at the end of time God will put an end to all matter including the angels and exist alone for thousands of years. He will then continue to call out saying; whoever or whatever is immortal should come now. Behold! nobody and nothing will answer him for 40 thousand years before he will then raise us back to life for judgement.

ifenes:
And the God is real aspect of you,which is nothing special.

I don't really get you...

Only God doesn't have a beginning and end. Every other thing was created and therefore has a beginning and will surely have an end. So, be it an angel or a demon has a lifespan.

I proposed a practical solutions to the ibos presidency issue before the elections by creating the thread below but I was attacked.
https://www.nairaland.com/1494241/surest-card-southeast-grab-presidency

Okorocha on point

This one is serious o...if its not Photoshop.













FTC in this beautiful morning