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banku:
I like it when my fellow Africans write and talk like indoctrinated economists that only see theory from the Western countries' point of view.

We had the same discussion here about devaluation and dollarization of African currencies. One would think by now young educated Africans would have learnt that this unequal and arbitarary devaluation of currencies have nothing to do with economics.

Strong currencies are backed by gold reserves. Which countries have the biggest gold reserves since centuries past? Do they have the strongest currencies?

There was a lady on one of the talk shows that gave lessons on strong currencies and many articles have been written on the illogical 500 to One exchange rates. Whenever there is political disagreement between western countries and developing economy, their currencies are devalued. Why?

Brothers and sisters, think and stop theorizing for western powers and its arbitarary fiat economic dictation. There is nothing backing United States colored papers used in buying up your gold.

For further reading: Google is your friend, as they say.

so can u tell me wat i said there that was indoctrinated by western economics?

I just gave 3 scenerios in which removing zeros can help in an economy. If u read well, u will see that its positive effects are mostly psychological...which is true for all economies

Donald95:
Actually, if am the one, I will really love to return the money Sha but the sophisticated moro.ns that I have as friends will lay ambush for me and take the money.

Nawa o Those my friends are too Fraudic in nature.

yeap...u right. Sophisticated mo.rons are criminals and ritualists

Ofodirinwa:
I know you're not Igbo because you seem to believe the most common way for someone to acquire land is the government dashing it to them lol.

we should stop this idea of calling people with opposing views as non igbos.

Simply come up with a superior argument if u dont think his own can work.

kayfra:
iPob folks lack knowledge of economics or simple common sense. Redomination of the currency does nothing to the fundamentals

lol u and ur tribe are probably the dumb ones. U dont know..just admit it...instead of insulting the people of Biafra...of which am among.

deleting zeroes from national currency can only be effective when it is accompanied by anti-inflation policies and austerity measures in the realm of financial policies, financial regularities of the government as well as attempts to get rid of long-lasting budget deficits and reliance of oil revenues. Otherwise, removing zeroes will soon lose its psychological effect and the zeroes will return with even more strength. In other words, the best solution to combat the rising inflation and to execute the economic stability program is independence of Central Bank from the government and removing the problem-making economic policies. Deleting the zeroes can help to decrease the inflation and execute economic stability programs in two ways.

First, removing zeroes from the national currency can be done at the end of economic stability program so to provide people and private agencies the confidence that the era of high inflation has passed. Removing zeroes in such a condition is totally symbolic because inflation has been controlled due to other factors and thus removing zeroes will not lead to decreasing the inflation on its own.

Second, it will gain the trust of foreign investors and thus attracting more foreign investment, facilitating the process of economic growth for the countries. Finally, in order to increase the value of national currency, economic power needs to be increased as well. This is due to the fact that with the help of powerful economy, the value of national currency can be strengthened and then with controlling the inflation, positive measures would be taken in the long term.

nnamdijonathan:
That is the one I can't tell you.

dude it seems u are not igbo after all. Am from udi enugu state...ur turn pls

OsuEbonyi:
An osu doing exactly what he was born to do. Grunting like a pig and licking afonja and Aboki balls like FFK, Fayose, Saraki and Atiku

all the fool u called here...na dem dey rush us.

The great igbo tribe no send anybody...na all of una dey rush us..dey famz us

[quote author= post=70494229]Good to know the governor will get to see this.
We hope to see a tremendous change in a couple of weeks from now.[/quote]

ipobarecriminals:
One useless Loca) govt chairman of popular LGA simply erected sign post up/down with nothing on show just pothole/ crater. .I drive tru dat area on my way from lekki to my site. AMBODE,talk to ur boys biko

the op is a big liar joor...
That is not lasgidi abeg.
That is aba...poto region



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ApostleT:
Usman dan Fodio right now in his grave " I said I will conquer east "

like i conquared west and north

Missyford31:
Ur correct. Well from wat i know. Im white n two yrs ago started a relationship with an igbo guy and where i live in tasmania a small island at the bottom state in australia we dnt see many blk ppl so when i got with emeka almost everyone i knew was shocked and my family angry. That made me angry. I cut my family off until months ago they accept it now as they know we really do love each other. I don't see any issues with ppls skin color as we all human we all the same its just melanin thats different and how the hell that makes ppl any better or lesser than another has got me beat? Theres no difference and white ppl who do think black ppl are lesser are pigs. We all love the same hurt the same. But sadly ur right. Even an aboriginal lady friend of me said omg im so proud of u marrying an african man missy. And shes black herself. I was thinking why proud? Its not an achievement its love. Its all it is to us. I love our cultural differences it makes things interesting and amazing but moreso i love him for who he is even were he purple

well as u said...its love. Nothing else. Am dating an asian girl myself. We really have no differences except in skin color.

However..i think african nations should step up. We have a very large uneducated population in africa...with poverty everywhere...thats mostly why u whites still see us negatively. Otherwise, we are all same humans, same brain capacity, same intelligence.

Is that erosion in niger state? I thought its only in igboland. Shithole state that has produced 2 heads of state
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EwuOjota:
Complex issues.

I wonder if the white people take advertorials to announce they are marrying black people? I dont think so.

Black people with inferiority complex will not change.

Just write that a NAIRALANDER just got married and we will tell them congratulations. Stop putting the white woman shiii there.

actually they do. Its usually a bigger deal to the whites wen one of them marries black than it is to blacks....cos usually its seen as either marrying low or that the black person is rich.

Infact blacks in america frown wen a black marries white...thats why the fact that malia obama is dating a white guy is receiving backlash

Demmzy15:
We now have names like Muhammad Chukwu, Ishaaq Oliver, Abdullah Obiagwu... Allaahu Akbar!

yes o alla aku ba. Asala amu eku my brother

Demmzy15:
Yoruba and Igbo Christians right now....

you can say that again bro

Islam is piss

OMANBALA1:
You want solution but you had it when Rochas was given the platform to run for governorship under APGA. That was a golden opportunity to build brotherhood amongst 5 eastern states that will mastermind a massive economic transformation but as soon as he became governor he got greedy and wanted national prominence. He dumped APGA and reduced the potentials the organization presented and caused bad blood that has continued to haunt APGA. Today Anambra and Imo has not been able to work on any project because of the face off....Charity begins at home. If Imo had remained APGA the strength and influence would spread and maybe we might end up taking Abia , Ebonyi and Enugu and even beyond but I bet Buhari is to blame. Onuku Igala!

u said the truth. In 2013 i supported apga merging with apc...but in this thread i can now see why its important for apga to remain regional.

Just imagine if apga has major seats in delta rivers and se states...that means igboland becomes clearer

hammer6F:
So, u are NnamdiJonathan? lmao!

lol...do i sound like him?

Wat he said is wat i have said b4. He is not from se...i am from udi in enugu

nnamdijonathan:
If Biafra is to be achieved, I feel these things have to be put in place first:
1) It must be made clear that the new Biafra will be an Igbo nation without other tribes.
2) All Igbo regions and groups must come together under the Ohanaze Ndigbo as one united people with one leadership.
3) Our governors must fashion out a way to build at least a 2000 megawatts power plant that will sustain the new nation and provide at least 18 to 20 hours of power supply daily.
4) At least one of our 4 international Airports in Asaba, Enugu, Owerri and Port Harcourt must be in full operation.
5) We need full access to the ocean for import and export operations so, we must ensure that Ikwerre people are with us so we can make use of the Port Harcourt seaport. As for now, the possibility of the Ikwerre people joining Biafra is 50-50 which means we must have a plan B and the plan B should be to build the long proposed Abia seaport which will involve many billions of naira to dredge the waterway that is in between Rivers and Akwa Ibom until it is deep enough for large vessels to pass through. The Abia seaport is closer to the ocean than the onne and Onitsha ports and dredging the Onitsha Port's waterway will cost more than dredging that of Abia due to the distance of the Onitsha port from the ocean. Another disadvantage of using the Onitsha port as our only port in Biafra is that the cargo ships will have to flow through Bayelsa state and that is something the Nigerian government will reject but, if the Ikwerre joins Biafra, our focus should be on dredging the Port Harcourt seaport till it is deep enough for large vessels to pass through.
6) We must be self sufficient in the production of our staple crops in Igbo land like Rice, Tomato, pepper, yam, cassava, bitter leaf, palm oil and soybeans.
7) Create a Biafran constitution under the Ohaneze Ndigbo
Make our senators pass a bill to introduce a referendum into the Nigerian constitution and threaten to vote them out if they fail to present the bill to the National House of Assembly.
Once we can achieve all these, Biafra can then be achieved without us having to worry about electric, food and our businesses. Making the Referendum bill pass through will be our major problem because other senators may not support it but we will not give up. All we need are just visionary leaders and a united people to achieve all.

this post deserves some accolades. Does anybody have a contrary opinion?

nnamdijonathan:
I knew there was definitely someone who reasons differently following this trend. My brother please always be bold to express yourself here, don't allow some of these ignorant people deter you by calling you an Afonja all because you don't reason like them.

no body calls me an afonja..cos i dont defend Yorubas...everybody knows that.

Wat u said surprisingly is wat igbos need to be doing. Nothing else we should be doing now othee than rallying igbo nation and developing it for possible break out in the future

nnamdijonathan:
If Biafra is to be achieved, I feel these things have to be put in place first:
1) It must be made clear that the new Biafra will be an Igbo nation without other tribes.
2) All Igbo regions and groups must come together under the Ohanaze Ndigbo as one united people with one leadership.
3) Our governors must fashion out a way to build at least a 2000 megawatts power plant that will sustain the new nation and provide at least 18 to 20 hours of power supply daily.
4) At least one of our 4 international Airports in Asaba, Enugu, Owerri and Port Harcourt must be in full operation.
5) We need full access to the ocean for import and export operations so, we must ensure that Ikwerre people are with us so we can make use of the Port Harcourt seaport. As for now, the possibility of the Ikwerre people joining Biafra is 50-50 which means we must have a plan B and the plan B should be to build the long proposed Abia seaport which will involve many billions of naira to dredge the waterway that is in between Rivers and Akwa Ibom until it is deep enough for large vessels to pass through. The Abia seaport is closer to the ocean than the onne and Onitsha ports and dredging the Onitsha Port's waterway will cost more than dredging that of Abia due to the distance of the Onitsha port from the ocean. Another disadvantage of using the Onitsha port as our only port in Biafra is that the cargo ships will have to flow through Bayelsa state and that is something the Nigerian government will reject but, if the Ikwerre joins Biafra, our focus should be on dredging the Port Harcourt seaport till it is deep enough for large vessels to pass through.
6) We must be self sufficient in the production of our staple crops in Igbo land like Rice, Tomato, pepper, yam, cassava, bitter leaf, palm oil and soybeans.
7) Create a Biafran constitution under the Ohaneze Ndigbo
Make our senators pass a bill to introduce a referendum into the Nigerian constitution and threaten to vote them out if they fail to present the bill to the National House of Assembly.
Once we can achieve all these, Biafra can then be achieved without us having to worry about electric, food and our businesses. Making the Referendum bill pass through will be our major problem because other senators may not support it but we will not give up. All we need are just visionary leaders and a united people to achieve all.

u are a very smart person bro. Everything u said up there is 100% pure. I always knew u were igbo regardless of wat others are saying. But even if u are not igbo....wat u wrote here is exactly wat igbo needs.

I keep saying it...
Biafra should be an igbo only struggle
Biafra should be led by ohaneze...not ipob
Igbos should work closely with yoruba to achieve a lot

deomelo:
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Spew all the Yoruba in the world, you are still nothing but a bitter disgruntled, bigoted and disgruntled ipob and anti Nigerian element.


BTW, speaking Yoruba is proof that you are Yoruba? These silly ipobs sef..

supporting buhari is proof he is yoruba

nnamdijonathan:
Even if things get done the way u have put them, getting Biafra now is the worst thing that can ever happen to us and our land. If we break out now, we will be cut out of the national power grid thereby leaving our land in total darkness, we don't have a functional seaport, many Igbo people will lose their businesses located outside igboland in Nigeria, there will be mass relocation of over 10 million Igbos back to Igboland which will stretch our little infrastructure, we will lack food because we are currently not sufficient in any food crop we consume etc. Many things have to be addressed before we even think about breaking out of Nigeria.

i read ur 1st post and i read this one.

I know wat u mean.

Igbos are locating their factories outside igboland and our politicians have done little to develop igboland.

The truth is that people will start business where they will make more money...and many businesses differ. As many igbos are locating their business outside, many are also locating theirs inside igboland. We can only keep shouting and hope more igbos will locate their business in igboland.

As for biafra. I believe getting biafra now or weneva is very good. So long as we get igboland complete. If we do, then we are self sufficient. We have seaport in p.h. we have many power plants in igboland...one is located in oji river enugu..my state.

As for people losing their businesses...dont forget that globacom and many yoruba owned banks and businesses are in igboland. Do u think nigerian govt wont want to protect those businesses? It would be a quid pro quo something. As for 10 million igbos relocating..we dont know for sure that there are up to 10million igbos living outside igboland...forget naija statistics...but remember a large number of igbos in diaspora return every xmas. We havent run out of land to accomodate them yet. Biafra or igbo nationhood is still a good policy

aniomafirstson:
A central igbo leader whom we all respect and Cherish

NOI excellently fits that position but she made it clear she is no longer interested in Nigerian politics

Apart from her I don't see another igbo person who is more respected worldwide.

noi is good...but wat of prof. Pat utomi? He has said that p.h is igboland b4 and he is very well respected. There are many people.

Pat utomi for instance can show seriousness by contesting for presidency under apga...or going to senate

InyinyaAgbaOku:
It's not your responsibility to remind one of where he is from or who he is.
They capitalize on that to feel too big and I can't stand that. It's shameful.
A smaller group should be begging to be part of a bigger group, not the other way round

u are right...but in this case..not so.

U see we lost a war..and it made us losers that people didnt wanna be. Same thing happened to german-americans wen germany lost ww2..they started denying being german. Same thing happened to irish-americans wen ireland was fighting u.k

We need to keep the conversation going and not accept that they are not igbos

WhoRUDeceiving:
Brother, no one is claiming to be Mr or Mrs Biafra....but I'm very in support of your proposal. It's just that such effort can be made after we attain our ultimate goal. The 5 states that Igbo have somehow been reduced to have done what in almost 20 years of democracy? Nothing. There is no unity or sense of belonging, except against Biafran groups. Even when Goodluck tried to smuggle a 6th state for the so-called SE, look at how fools like Iwuanyanwu went there to scuttle the matter with over 30+ proposals.

Even if Anioma and Riverine Igbo are brought in, you can simply have another tout like Wike or Amaechi as a do nothing governor for 8 years while naming structures after murderers like Gowon.

the thing is that concensus is hard to get in igboland because igbos dont have a leader.
The west takes tinubu as leader...the core north (ne & nw) takes buhari as leader. These 2 groups are our biggest enemies in nigeria. But they can easily take a common stance. We dont have that central, rallying figure. Nnamdi kanu could have become that person if he didnt fall for buhari's trap.

I say this because of the 30+ proposals of state creation u said iwuanyanwu came with in the 2014 confab. It really shows that we have no cordination as a people. At this point wat we should be fighting for is igbo unity. To remake the great igbo tribe. To rebirth it. Not looking to create selfish states that further divides us. I like nsukka people being in enugu...why do they want to divide themselves from us? We should come together and as for only one state_ anioma state. It shows us as a people who should be taken serious...who are up to something.

As for having non-performing govs, that is a nigerian factor...sometimes a state gets a bad leader...someother time a good leader comes along...its not an exclusive igbo thing.

We need a central igbo leader who is pro-igbo nationhood and who can play the nigerian politics without emotion like tinubu or buhari. And we need Anioma state.

Get these 2 things and biafra is closer than ever

ModsareChevres:
Come on, don't be daft. AbdulSalam was a lily livered ruler. His tenure was more like a democratic dispensation.

lol believe ur lies bro...we all do

dlondonbadboy:
Don't be pained because there is no healing in your religion. No resurrection in your religion, no peace in your religion of peace..Only war, death, killings, beheading, raping girls, child marriage, sharia, cutting limbs, slamming head on the ground...LOL.

Tell me one positive thing about youyour religion..Only one!

guy nawa for u o..islam is piss

BabaRamota1980:
Ive said it. Without Yoruba to attach to, Ibo is nothing.

They need us for relevance.

there is no way in hell one of the most fearless, most traveled tribe in africa would be releated to dirty, cowardly, clannish people

ModsareChevres:
Abacha died before Abiola.
The U.S. took both of them out for peace to reign.
Dullards will never learn.

more like abdulsalam took abiola out for peace to reign.

The north is and has always been ur problem...not east bro

WhoRUDeceiving:
Good idea, but again it is not the greatest agitation that we should be doing. Why go for a small slice of the cake when you can have the cake itself, especially when you were the one who baked it.

Operating in a fake nation with 5 or even 6 states won't do anything but legitimize the suffering and hardship our people have been facing and will continue to face as they are trapped in a cage with other nations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDX93IX_95s&t=5s

u are not more pro biafran than me.

Strategy is key believe me. Igbos can get biafra easier than joing the whole se and ss together. However we need to gradually and strategically bring the igbo nation (including ikwerre )into the south east. Then we can ask for igbo authonomy or independence. It would be easier for nigeria or u.n to reason and agree than adding niger delta folks.

Look at this map again..if u get igboland complete...then u dont need nobody else

Cjrane2:
I have deliberately stayed away from this argument so that our people from both sides of the Niger can express their frustration and iron things out in a democratic discussion which is the hallmark of Igbo custom.

Truth is that even in the same Ika family, one brother will be 100% Igbo and the other will choose to be 100% Bini or whatever. Now how do you judge that family? If you say they are Pro Igbo, you have not accounted for the half brother than is not. If you say they are anti-igbo, you have been unjust to reject the brother that is 100% Igbo.

These things were engineered by Nigeria after the civil war to perpetually destroy the Igbo and make it a minority tribe in Nigeria. So all the Igbos at the border fringes of Igboland were approached by Nigerian vandals and through coercion or active collaboration, they got elders of those communities to declare they were not Igbo. These were all done to strip the former East Central State (SE region now) of any access to the sea and more importantly, an access to it's oil reserve.


Ofcourse a lot of families took personal decisions not to break their Igbo identity and even encouraged their sons and daughters to marry from the East Central State, while many others gleefully accepted their new non-Igbo designation and pretended to be Nigerians of no ethnic group. In the newly created Rivers state the worst atrocity of confiscating Igbo properties was enforced and that brought untold bitterness between us. Everyone went to sleep and it was thought the Igbo was finally decimated in Nigeria.

The Igbo quietly endured the loss of her investments in Port Harcourt and many parts of northern Nigeria and simply started again from the scratch. Today, Igbo has come up to speed with other people that stole their properties and these issues have come up for discussion about who is Igbo and who isn't.

Firstly, every Igbo outside of the SE knows he is Igbo. They just fear that the behavior of their elders immediately after the war cannot allow them to say who they are without sounding hypocritical. Despite this bitter history, i would ask that we find a way to unite all our peoples again. That will be the best way to pay back the Nigerian vandals who engineered this division of our people to decimate Igbo in Nigeria. If Germany united her people from the Eastern and Western block many years after World War II, Vietnam united her people in the northern and southern Vietnam after the Vietnam war into the Vietnam we know today , North Korea and South Korea are still working out modalities to unite their people, it is only reasonable for Igbo to unite her people into an Igbo nation. For the process to be genuine, mistakes of the past my be acknowledged so that they do not happen again and forgiven.

We must understand the need to unite our people when you clearly understand that the Nigeria - Biafra war ended it's shooting phase on January 12, 1970 but has continued through economic, infrastructural, political representation marginalization and all sorts of exploitation of the Igbo by Nigeria. We need every Igbo in this new tactics against the Igbo adopted by Nigeria, especially the Fulani dominated Federal Government and active collaboration of our Yoruba southern brothers.

The moral of our history which we have refused to learn is that we MUST learn to invest at home. Today, the Igbo must learn to invest more at home than wherever attracts their fancy in Nigeria. Some of the greatest harm to Igbo economy by Nigeria was possible because most of her wealth were outside the East Central State which is the SE region now.

Those that think the war of Nigeria against the Igbos ended in 1970 are still living a silly dream. It is very much alive today as the blockade was alive in the 1960s, they just decided to stop the shooting. If we FAIL to LEARN from these mistakes of our fathers and repeat the same mistakes in our generation, then just like our fathers we may suddenly lose everything through a silly "QUIT NOTICE" and again start from the scratch for another generation of back breaking toil just to meet up with those who stole our investments and properties.

Let us LEARN from our past mistakes and vow NEVER to repeat them

nice one.
I have said it before that the greatest agitation we should have in south east now is the creation of Anioma state out from delta and rivers states and joining it to south east to get 6 states. That in itself is much more important than biafra agitation and even igbo presidency.

Because we need to bring our people under one zone politically...b4 we can achieve anything else.
Wen we get Anioma state, we add 2 more igbo senators to NASS.
Wen we get anioma state and join it to south east, it becomes easier to convince those who deny being igbo to see things differently.
If we get Anioma state, that would make the ikwerres of rivers state also re-think their politics.
Anioma state will also make it easier for igbos to break out alone in future without needing niger delta tribes.

Why is ekweremadu not championing Anioma state creation. Why is our abuja politicians not talking about it? Wat exactly have they fought for igbos b4?

flames01:
I've seen several igbos displaying the characters, not just one.

igbos are all that abi? Wat about the yorobàs? U are sophisticated peaceful rich beautiful bla bla bla?
Which tribe killed abiola, killed saro wiwa, dele giwa, 3 million igbos and currently wiping out villages in the middle belt?

Which tribe ended the regional system, created phantom states and has held this country down since?

Which tribe has the tendency to be violent after u let them into ur land and home? Which tribe is the most clannish and backward in nigeria?

Which tribe gloats that they will always use violence to get wat they want? Which tribe feels they are born to rule nigeria? Which tribe produces very unreasonable people who easily become menaces to society?

Answer all these questions correctly and the real enemy of the yoruba will become clear.

Igbos are supposed to be ur best allies not ur problem.

resurgent2019:
Igbos are a largely inconsequential, migrant and emotional bunch. Nothing will happen to Alaba.

are we really all that

U must really be feeling very sad...chai...wat igbos have done to u to make u have this strong feeling against them

Some 3 or 4 monicas have started derailing this thread with nonsense...who is real igbo or fake igbo...

Pls this is the map of Igboland from britain archives...if u see ur people there...then u are igbo.