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Gbawe: Anago90 and others, why on earth do you guys indulge this cretin called Chino? I just don't get it. Honestly, I would want to think you have more to do with your time and better things to discuss than giving attention to a nauseating and hateful twerp who reeks of inferiority complex. The dolt cannot survive daily if he does not talk of Yoruba people or Yorubaland yet you guys continue to make him the arrowhead of hate against your own ethnic group with how you pay him attention. Can't you leave him to talk to his own fellow hateful kinsmen alone? Believe me, nothing will hurt them more than being ignored by Yoruba people. They want your attention and this is why they do this nonsense day in day out!! Deprive them your attention and they will wilt and die like a plant starved of water.

Must you join their madness all the time? Here now it is obvious the guy is a shameless liar and a little kid with conduct more shameful than a 3 year old child yet you guys continue to contribute to his notoriety here. Whether you like it or not, you are doing your bit to make this wretched urchin become a 'staple' here to the detriment of intelligent and progressive discussions. Aregbe won. Period. Most nairalanders know this twerp was never in Osun. Yet look at how you all pathetically helped to swell his idiotic and asinine thread. Stop all this "meet me" challenges abeg because it makes it obvious a pathetic pest, worse than a sewer rat, has gotten under your skin. When this thread begun I did not even expect it to gain a single response from a Yoruba person given that we all know what a vile bigot this Chino is. We all know This rodent called Chino is a pathetic liar and attention-seeking riff raff obsessed with all things Yoruba. For once, follow the saying "silence is the best answer for a fool". Enough is enough ojare. A word is enough for the wise.

Thank you.

Its funny to read how someone would open a thread to boast about another state, of another tribe, stay online to argue senselessly; and then try to cover up with more lies when the initial lies kept tumbling down.

It kept me entertained I must admit.

People that are used to those words can be excused to think those words originate from them. Its like a song that is common in a church and the ppl there assume that they are the originators.

Many Yoruba words have been turned into slangs so much by even non-yorubas that sometimes they forget the origin.

Op, Oyinbo is a Yoruba word.

An igbo friend who grew up in maiduguri heard me say "nko" as part of my conversation in yoruba and was asking me where I learnt Igbo. He assumed "nko" is part of igbo language because they use it when speaking in both igbo and English. He never believed me when I told him its yoruba. There are many more like that.

Maybe this is because western Nigeria is the most immigrated part of the country. Its like trying to ape the american slangs. Sometimes without understanding the full meaning.

fyneboi79: feel free to do so

The one in the middle...

Bross!!! How far Na?!!

Make I point you out?

okparaugo: This is not yorubaland.

Every south westerner is from Lagos state...

You couldn't trust your poor phone, so you posted twice?

So, in the end it might not be boko haram that engulfs us?

Wale112: upon on all your oil this how your city looks...Dubai,Qatar etc see the difference even Angola. Naija carry last

These are not even the best pictures of each of those places. I know I've seen better even on Nairaland.

The last wipe-out did many of the pictures in though.

vicadex07: Lol...just after U.I if you're coming from U.I to roundabout.

The mall is on the left side of the road...a unique, tall, red/grey building just before getting to Sango.

OK thanks, I'll sure check it out when next I come over.

vicadex07: No wonder...you didn't even come close

I honestly don't know where samonda is, though I know the name.

winbyforce: Cool down guy! I have been living in Ibadan since 2008,I know what I'm taking about;more people live in the 'slum areas'.The city is transforming very rapidly though.

You don't know Ibadan. Most of the places known to people especially visitors, as poor areas don't add up to 30% of Ibadan. Unless you regard not being poor as super rich.

You can choose what to believe though...

vicadex07: Awww...its on the right when you are going towards U.I from Sango bus stop. Its not as big as heritage mall, or the other one at ring road...maybe that's why you didn't instantly spot it.

Well, we went through Iwo road-Agodi-Bodija-Dugbe-Ring Road. I'm not sure it was along our route.

I saw one Mauve building at ring road though, not also sure if its the same one mentioned in sloothe's former thread.

vicadex07: The latest one...its along Samonda.

The second filmhouse cinema has already begun operations there for months now...go and check it out

I couldn't located the Samonda outlet over the weekend.

Still enjoyed myself with friends and family though. Went to the two shoprite malls and was forced to get those Dominos expensive but good ice creams at ring road.

Those Dominoes guys seem to enjoy shouting and singing as they worked, it was fun to watch.

What about seal? And NAS?

EasternLeopard: Now you see my understanding of Awo's decisions.

Unfortunately

The younger generation do not know this fact.

Awo realised in the 1960s that Yorubas do not have a well secured means of financing a secession or repelling an invasion.

That is why he introduced indigenization and 20 pound policies to strengthen Yorubas financially.

In the 1980s when he felt Yorubas are in charge of Nigeria economy, he plotted to overthrow the military government.

Unfortunately

His plan was exposed by Jankunde

This was one of the reasons why the Arewas thought of building an inland port in Abuja to take away the economic base of Nigeria from Yorubas to Arewaland.

Its funny how you guys pull facts from different directions and marsh them.together...

First from a neutral perspective, the $20 policy was the right thing. You won't get that in the aftermath of many wars. Secondly, $20 at that time made anyone a rich man. And since its difficult to know exactly those who had more, I must say there we're lots of those who had less and were grateful for this policy as a grant for business start up. This is apart from the fact that most igbo got their properties in the west back. But good historyis easy to forget when its necessary to hate.

But then everything that had happened to the Igbo has been seen from a myopic perspective anyways.

I don't know if you're being smarter by half when you wrongly spelt Jakande. I won't be drawn into such though.

I'll leave your other point for someone else to to put holes in. My last post on this thread.

EasternLeopard: I know Yoruba tribe stretches to Ghana. Historically the nearest Eastern ethnic group Yorubas have contact with his the Igalas and somehow Idomas.

As for Tivs there is no connection both from legend or fact.


What I want you to understand is that in war, you need to exchange something for weapons.

The Ishekiris who have can be overrun by ND forces in the event of treachery.

A good portion of oil in Edo/Ondo are on Ijaw territory. Any forceful claim of their rights will incur the wrath of the ND forces who will definitely seek to protect them and their rights.

Well, there are part of our history that isn't documented enough so I can't say if this is online, bet let me introduce you to Joe S. Tarka. A Tiv, he's seen as the father or modern day Tiv land nay Benue state. He was a good friend of Awolowo and learnt a lot from him. He revolutionised the development of the old Benue state and is seen as the pride if the state, but he personally was grateful to Awolowo for the insight and initiative, especially as regards agriculture.

To a lesser extent people like Joe Akaahan and Katsina Ala also had same relationship.

Since the sixties till date a lot of Tivs have had families in the West, especially Ibadan.

Do you know the Tilley Gyados? Popular family in Benue state, both strategically and in wealth. Do you know theres a Yoruba arm of the family?

I can go on. And my point is, if and when there are connections, ties between people already, either culturally or otherwise, its easier to table a discussion even with nothing as collateral. The truth is, their people on both sides and their survival can be convincing collateral enough.

EasternLeopard: What will Yorubas exchange for arms.?


When you answer that question truthfully then you will know that you are at the mercy of Arewa Biafrans ND forces.

This has been discussed in several threads. Its the same question that can be asked of the north.

What yoruba have is ties with several tribes within and outside Nigeria. It may not be what Yoruba can give in war situation, but what Yoruba can give back in future.

Please understand that yoruba tribe strrtches throuth benin republic, togo to serria leone. Thisr are also countries with armament. Probably even a payment for past help by Yoruba is enough for them to come in. Who wants a humanitarian camp to be made of their country from Nigeria's huge population of Yoruba(not saying there will be, but as precaution). This is just one of many theories.

In Nigeria, many don't even realise Yoruba have ties with Benue state, mostly with Tivs. It isn't visible except in subtle clues and also because its not shouted on the roof tops.

You will be surprised the number of tribes that have trade and even war alliance in this same country. Igbo are not good at this, buy they have some leaders who started learning this from the obasanjo presidency in 1999. Its a flaw that needs to be corrected, war or not.

SamIkenna: You touched on few interesting points that I feel the need to hash out so we be clear. These points are as follows:
1. That you understand where Igbo people's emotions are emanating from.
2. That Yoruba can and will fight if need be.
3. That Igbos are as aggressive as core north but do not realize it.
4. That Igbos unjustly and maliciously attack Yorubas for no reason, and this is one issue that confuses you.
5. That Yorubas are potential Igbo allies, perhaps.
6. That Igbos believe in go alone attitude due to pride (I inferred from your tone that you meant we have humongous pride).

Lets will deal with #6 first, and this is what I have to say: I strongly believe its essential that humans have a good dose of pride, in fact I doubt the world would be this developed without a huge amount of pride which the West infused into their pursuit of philosophy and study of natural laws. Roman empire, Greek city states of Athens and Spartans, British empire, French and German empires, Soviet Union, and USA, all these great societies have at one time or the other demonstrated immense pride and even used it in different occasions to rally their people together for a common cause. If anyone believes that pride had no place in the space race between the super powers then that person is indeed an alien. Pride, fear of domination, and intent to dominate were the potent mixture that spurred and pushed the British, french, German, Russia, American, and Japanese to exceed the limit knowledge/science arbitrarily imposed on humanity the dawn of 18th century. There's nothing wrong with pride, ignorance is where the wrong is resident. If I didn't have pride as an individual I'm sure I would not be who or where I am today. Pride makes a man choose death over slavery, domination and/or subjugation. It made men choose confrontation with murderous military dictators rather than be humiliated and bossed by barely literate men in uniform. You said we have it a lot, perhaps you're right and I thank God we did because without it we would not have risen past the decimation, lack, and economic impotence imposed on us by the Nigerian state at the end of civil war. Many of us today were destined by the Nigerian state/civil war victors to be lower than Almajiris. This truth is lost in many of you whose parents, friends, and relatives benefited from our near extermination and artificial destitution. So, do we have pride? Yes we do and in great quantity. Should we change it? Why should we change what catapulted many of us from imposed Almjiridom to success. Think about it for a second - from complete decimation and genocide to 20 pounds in a harsh black African country, and in less than 40 years we've grown a visible population of vibrant and enterprising men and women with little or no physical scars of the civil war. If you ask me, I'm extraordinarily proud of my people. The coast is still foggy and a lot needs to be done but we'll get there.


1. That you understand where Igbo people's emotions are emanating from:
Moving on to number one, I would say its highly unlikely you understand where the emotion is coming from. Saying you entirely understand it is akin to saying you fully understand the emotions of Holocaust survivors. I hear this lot: let's 'move' on, the war's in the past, we have a future together, you're playing victim - choose whether you're a Nigerian or Biafran so we may have peace. My answers have always been: move on to what and where? what future are these people talking about? Of course you dragged us back in this hell-hole so you might as well go deaf 'cause I'll speak of Biafra if and when I want to. If you cared so much about not hearing it why then did you have to kill 2-3 million out of 12 million Igbos/Biafrans that lived in 1967. You don't slap a baby and impose silence on her. If you loved or cared so much about 'quiet' then don't slap the child. Of course its humiliating to be dragged back in a house you ditched. As a man my soul feels wounded, its akin to being violated in a market square in full glare and amusement of both the young, old, and the perverted. No matter what I do or where I go the shame goes with me and to make matters worse, the principal architects of my public violation never fail to gloat or remind me of the sad episode. They wonder why I refuse to partake in their community church aka 'One Nigeria.' They preach how great the oneness is but when I look up I only see the same perverts and/or their children hanging on to my personal effects their parents stole during my public undressing. For a people to have successfully carried and internalized that shame for 44 years and now waking up to a new reality of possible attack and humiliation by the same people? And you say you understand where the emotion is coming from? No you don't. Hell would be 3 orders of magnitude colder than the explosion of the 44 years of suppressed anger, furry, vengeance, and most importantly humiliation. Perhaps, now you understand why the threat from Muslim north and the issue of who's our ally and who's not is infuriating.

2. That Yoruba can and will fight if need be:
I completely agree, not because all humans posses the courage to fight any battle they find worthy but also because the Oyo empire successfully halted Fulani spread southwards. Without taking anything from any group, I believe that its highly likely that Oyo empire saved the whole south from unprepared head-on collision with very organized and murderous Fulani jihadists. And as is always the case, the emaciation of a lion does not negate the size or ferocity of his heart. So, the Yorubas still posses and will continue to posses that lion's heart.

3. Igbos are as aggressive as core north but do not realize it:
This assertion is a huge joke and to make it interesting I would dare anyone to produce an article from our national dailies or from the internet in which there's a flicker of evidence that a non-Igbo was killed in the East because of his or her ethnic group. Of course with the exception of Hausa-Fulani which, as we're aware, receive reprisals after their usual slaughter of southerners in the north. If you can't produce that then I would expect you give us the rationale under which you designate Igbo as aggressive people. Unless you meant we should always keep quiet and roll over for peace's sake or count our body-bags and wait on God.

4. That Igbos unjustly and maliciously attack Yorubas for no reason, and this is one issue that confuses you:
This assertion cuts both ways. To say one group does it while the other is saintly is disingenuous. Its high school so let the high schoolers knock themselves out with it.

5. That Yorubas are potential Igbo allies, perhaps:
Yea, I agree but given the age-old mistrust and the toxic politics of the last 4 years I'm not sure if I'm ready to bet on that.

If I decide to respond to what you put here, it will require a whole page. But know this:

1. Histories are histories, what you know about ur may not be the truth, but just a version of it, the version they want you to hear. This goes for all tribes.


2. Many nations have rushed to their ruin in wars based on emotions. The survivors are the strategic nations, and even they do get their fingers burned when they become emotional. ( Vietnam).

3. Don't let the fact that you think your beliefs are correct becloud your judgement that other human think you are wrong. Don't ever fail to find out why. And even when you think they are still wrong in their thoughts, don't fail to be clear headed enough to seek middle grounds. Else, even if you win any battle, you may have lost the opportunity of averting an eternal war. If the opposition thinks like you do (and best believe they can and do); it will be a tit for tat for a long time.

4. What is a war to you? An end or a means to an end? Do you want your pride back as tribe, as humans and you feel the war can give it back? You may lose that war and be worse of for it. For yorubas, going to war, may be because they feel we are not fulfilling our true potential and can get better on our own. Is that the same for you? Yorubas want to survive the war and build the nation they want. Key word is survive to build our nation after the war.

If Igbos quest for war is to satisfy a historical thirst for pride then, with the hope that those who survive will continue with the lineage, its a risky and I dare say foolish roadmap. Igbo consistently tell us of how they have managed to better themselves after the war, and while this is half the story, going into a war for pride negates this gains they talk about often.

I go back to Igbo hatred for Yoruba. I understand that there's a thin line between love and hate. The person who you love is the same person susceptible to the most hate. Others can't hurt you that much because you have little regard for them emotionally. The fact that Yoruba, who have the penchant for tribal pride, were your benefactors after the war, is a wound that is yet to heal for igbos, they seek for many ways to address this. Seeking alliances with them therefore becomes emotionally difficult- yorubas I agree, are good at taunting, but so do the Igbo.

Everything you know can be correct to you, but believe this, it can also be totally wrong to others. How do you find middle grounds? Its not necessary? Then war for you is an end, and can be lost just because of this perception.

I hope you understand what I'm trying to get across. I may be confusing at times because I'm just trying to sort different factors for a summarized view.

I will also not reply anymore, maybe our posts can educate others with a little more balanced view of the realities around them, is why I post. I don't particularly like accusing and counter accusing. Have a good weekend.

SamIkenna: Unfortunately, we do not see issues the same way, and we don't need to because govts and law courts would be extinct if we did. One of the reasons I say this is because you stated that humiliation is one of the options in the kitty for the East. You see, this is where we irredeemably and regrettably diverge. When the bubble bursts everyone will be in need of friends and allies. The East is not in the business of threatening anyone and has never threatened anyone, and this is why its shockingly ironic because the section where the threat is endlessly coming from is consistently been adjudged to be ally worthy by people who are supposedly endowed with wisdom, while the recipients of the threats are considered dangerous and delusional. If this is not insanity I don't know what is. Anyway, not to get off the subject - when the bubble bursts, it will burst evenly. If you care to join us or them you're more than welcomed, and if you choose to be neutral while some barbarians are laying claim to part of your ancestral land, then good for you too. As for us, we will dig in and eliminate this insanity once and for all. One thing I have decided not to do is to, henceforth, beg people to join in resisting against their own subjugation or domination. You choose to fight, you fight. You don't - no offence taken. As for humiliation, that'll be over my dead body.

Well, I guess I understand the emotions that come with having to do something, help notwithstanding.

But I'm not talking about if Yoruba will fight or not. I'm talking about how the war might play out. Yorubas will fight if and when they have to. Nothing will change that. It is the how that's up for debate.

Look, your points are somewhat valid as regards defending your territory from an aggressor, the mistake you and many others make is not realising that you do the same, I mean being aggressive to others. But you may not realise it, just like those you accuse don't too.

If you see any part of this country being aggressive, they are reacting to something.

Northerners are mainly represented by their religious people and their extremists are showing their hands. What gets me confused is that Igbo use most opportunities to hit at Yoruba, deservedly or not, and even when the issues have no connection with Yoruba.

Verbal attacks are made on other tribes but the most vitriolic is saved for Yoruba; funny enough Yoruba are the closest to allies the Igbos can get. Its a strange method igbos have chosen to have friends.

I guess you understand this and that's partly why you go with the "we can do it alone anyway" line? Its called pride. It goes before a fall.

SamIkenna: The emboldened is why I said you can positively join or get off my lawn. Its clear where your interest lies. What I see are folks who want the East to be humiliated masquerading as advice purveyors. Let me put it in clear terms: The East will meet the core north fire for fire, viciousness for viciousness, and bomb for bomb if and when Nigeria crumbles - this fact is not lost on the northern intelligentsia. One of our God given roles in this hemisphere is to halt and roll back wahhabi islamic contagion pushing southwards. We're not compromised in anyway. We have nothing like a muslim cousin and christian nephew working against each other, so I expect you completely understood my drift on 'we're not compromised.' We're particularly suited to knock some sense into those who predicted, at the dawn of the century, to dip Koran in the Atlantic.

At any rate, I hope when you said you would be neutral you literally meant that. We would not like surprises.

I conceed that my post you quoted may be taken as a humiliation for the south east , but without emotions, that is one of the possibilities that lie ahead if we take the war route.

And please, boldness and even having enough armaments doesn't win wars. Did USA win the war in Vietnam?

More importantly, have you considered what will happen after the war? If you win, will that be the end? If you keep alienating yourselves with the "we can do it alone" mentality, is it after the war you want to form alliances?

Yet alliances you will need, because realistically the south east is not in any position to do anything alone. I wont want to elaborate on this for now. Bestbelive though that you don't win wars these days, you only win momentary battles, the victim keeps coming back to haunt and taunt. You can ask yorubas, they will tell you that their post war effort is being shoved up their throat today.

So who are your friends? North? They are the enemy. South south? They are not good enough. Yoruba? You wrongfully abuse them consistently yet you always expect them to either be on your side or be neutral. How can you guarantee that?

But yes, I maybe I need to get of your lawn...

AkinEgba: There are urban northern cities where northerners live. I presume they will not all disperse to their villages. Only few of the individual northern cities are bigger than the major Eastern cities; most of the North are empty space and nobody will be fighting or throwing bombs in empty space. With it's human resources, the SE can launch multiple simultaneous attacks on several cities where large northern populations congregate. Each of those cities would then become a war zone at the same time. It's all about planning.

OK, if you think you're right...

SamIkenna: That's ok in peace time. But when an extremist religious Hausa-Fulani is amassing 10 million man army close to the border of a predominantly Christian nation, an army filled with illiterate Almjiris who believe their enemies are infidels, you tell me the name of the negotiation that'll halt such earthquake. We're not pretending to be in love, that's the difference. We know what we're faced with and we know where our strength lies. Its ridiculous hearing people tell the East what they should or should not do yet they haven't told us what they're going to do. We're a predominantly Christian nation with an aggressive islamist nation as a neighbor, our fate lies in our hands. We can't depend on other sections of the country for help or advice because our fate and challenges are unique and we accept them in good faith. So, in the language of Clint Eastwood, you can help or get off my lawn.

OK

torkaka: Oh please don't even try to be intelligent, aint you the dude from the concrete wall fortification fame??

Blind optimism here is when one thinks a city like state (yes, that's in reference to the 5 eastern states) will churn out military defenses like isreal when faced with an attack based on military equipment and foreign help, all fantasized, as against the reality of a clear route from which the attack will come from.

When war breaks, it will not be biafra vs nigeria, it will be several nations angling for survival. Those that will survive are those who will know the strenghts of their enemies and the weakness of themselves. Clearly, you and the other loud mouths here don't know this. Alliances are formed, not because of military weakness but because of strategic location.

Fact is, western Nigeria is large, northern Nigeria is large. Attacking any of these places means overstretching yourself (for you will attack on many fronts), northerners are not as stupid as you think, they know this and they won't waste any resources coming through benue or Taraba which will give them hiccups on the way. Their battle will be against the city state called biafra.

Like I said earlier, the border between cameroon and benue will play and all important role during the conflict, it is not numbers or loud mouthing that win a war, but surely location plays a vital role!!

When and if the war starts, let it start before you start l.icking arsz

Unfortunately this is a possibility our south eastern people are not seeing presently.

The way I see it, the Igbo's continued vocal calls for war can make it easy for strategists to negotiate with middle belt. For the price of safety from war and not making it a "buffer zone" for the east; they can give any zone that guarantees its safety thoroughfare to the south east.

This will be an advantage for those in the west. They won't want a humanitarian crises from those fleeing the middle belt westward; and restricting the war to south east will make it easier and cheaper to round off.

SamIkenna: What makes you think its entirely an Eastern vs core northern slug-fest? When Nigeria breaks down the old playbook will be out the window. A fierce contest for position, supremacy, land, and resource will likely ensue leaving behind unimaginable proportion of trail of blood, tears, rubble, iron, and gun-powder. This reality, as dark and unfortunate as it is, the people of the East have regrettably accepted it. WWI just about shaped the first 20 years of the 20th century but WWII sealed the fate of humanity for the last 75 years, and will shape even more as man and beast trudge on.

The people in charge of humanity today are the same people who, in 1939, set aside the notion of neutrality and met iron for iron, bomb for bomb, and viciousness for viciousness. When Nigeria crumbles on its weight of injustice, lopsidedness, triumphalism, born-to-rulism, jihadism, and black-Arab-wannabe islamic radicalism, the illusion of neutrality will be shattered by a single shot. The new order in the hemisphere 'll be laid down by men who struck fear and terror in the eyes of their fellow men while the carnage lasted. And just like in WWII, the outcome of Nigeria's precipitous dissolution will set the tone and conduct in much of West Africa for many generations to come.

My people, there are no neutrals, angels, or saints in Nigeria's fate.

I have not said the war will be mainly between north and south east. It can however turn out like that depending on the way their thinkers play their cards with regards to moves by their counterparts in other regions.

Even during a war situation, a strategic negotiation with even the enemy can end a war before the bloodbath begins and if you have the right thinkers, you can even come out of the situation better without your opposition realising it.

For example, if your negotiation tactics is conceeding what you know can become worthless in a few years time, or that you can regain economically by proxy, then you can even conceed and the enemy will assume your are not smart or brave; but just a few years later, they realise their folly. I think Cameroun actually gained bakassi from us during the civil war.

Strategic thinking can save even a war from immense bloodbath. USA does this all the time

AkinEgba: You must really think SE is a village. How big is Israel's land and yet they hold the entire Arab world to ransom? I know SE is not ISRAEL, but the North of Nigeria is not even Hamas, let alone a world power. You make me laugh.

Let's face facts, compared to the whole core north, the south east is unfortunately like a village in terms of size.

Israel controls the USA strategically. This is an open secret. USA have many countries that they have alliance with either not to interfere with Israelis squabbles, or in the even of any war with the USA, those countries will be used as base stations. Some of the countries around Israel are defending Israel whether they like/know it or not.

See, its difficult to gain ascendancy in a battle where you can hardly locate your enemies. Afghanistan was a nightmare for the Russians because of the terrain. The Russians, in all their might, lost. The war in Congo became too expensive for USA because the forest regions alone were reportedly as big as countries! USA pulled out.

If wars are fought, money is spent to procure armament. If you waste it on huts having 10km between them, where you're not sure if those huts have armed fighters in them or not; then you would have a huge wage bill after the war - whether you win or lose. The wage bill can cripple economies and make you wonder if this was you fought for.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket. This is a mistake many in the south east have been making and are still making. Part of the reason why a USA will help any country is because that country would be of strategic use to it. Either they can use the country as a launch pad for a proxy war or actually use the country as a base station for an enemy close by. That way, they don't have to fight the war from/ in their own country. The ties can also be such that reduces the possibilities of the country becoming friends with USA's enemies.

Does the south east have any strategic alliance with any zone? With part of the country can the south east point to as willing to back them up when the cookie crumbles?

But then again, you are laughing so...

AkinEgba: It is easier to defend a small country with a huge population than a large country with less population. This next war will not be fought in Igboland because there is no reason for it. However, both countries in question are underdeveloped and would have to source their weaponry from outside. The Igbos do not need to target villages but urban centers of the enemy country, ditto the enemy against Igbos. So it might be who throws the most bomb in urban areas wins the war, irrespective of size. The Igbo would have been prepared as the Hausa-Fulani ravages the large expanse that is the MB.

And don't forget, Igbos are the most technological savvy Nigerians. It was Ogbunigwe in 1966. What will it be now?

Lol. I hope you won't be allowed near those deciding your peoples fate, it will be unfortunate.

You actually think a small area jam packed with people is easier to defend?!!!! Have you considered the fact that your location will be an easy target for even the rookiest of attackers? Anywhere the attacker aims on your position is a target hit!!! They will have little arms waste due to missed target. How about your defence army taken out by a few missiles? They will all invariably be in the same location, won't they?

The reason why nations like China, Russia, USA and UK and even Brazil and Argentina with be difficult to overcome is their wide expanse of land ( or lands in different locations ala UK).

For now, no country can go to another country with such land areas and think they can come out unscathed, no matter how technically sawvy. This is because the locals will know the terrain better and would be fools not to use guerilla tactics. How many places will be bombed before the locals form.alliances that enhances their position? But if its one tiny location jampacked and fortified, it can easily be taken apart. I bet you even Israel isn't untouchable if not for alliances.

spikesC: This is war, not insurgency. You can't use guerrilla tactics during war because you have to keep the enemy out and protect your border at all times. Else, you risk a massive invasion

That's naive...any modern day war will include guerrilla and insurgency. Its the norm these days and people have seen how effective they are. These tactics were used by Americans while fighting the British so it really not restricted to a certain situation.

War is war, anything goes. People can ask questions afterwards but the defeated will stay defeated and probably dead.

Also the permutation you guys are tying here might not work unless there's continued dialogue, even during war situation.

There are many factors that can sway the allegiance of the middle belt for instance. Religion can be potent reasion to cause a realignment. Personal decisions by individuals and families not following group thinking can also make things a little complex. Give a little thought for families of inter-tribal marriages.

My personal though is that, in the event of a forceful movement, many of the middle belt will come southwest. This can greatly shift the battle grounds as the defeated try to lunch reprisal attacks from their new bases.

The advantage for the southwest is that they will be able to observe the direction the war would be taking and make a "USA" out of the situation. Dialogue is key. Not grandstanding.

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...well at least this is the version according to word-of-mouth, handed down to you.

vizboy: Yes The earth moves faster than train yes, but do feel the earth moving when you jump NO. But when you are inside a moving train you can feel it moving. So when you jump you can't land on same spot, it may be something close to your old standing spot but not the same spot

Well, the changes in the spot where you land is negligible and almost same as the changes you'd get when you jump up in your room.

Apart from this, if the train shakes to the right or left after you feet had gone off the ground, you'd of course have a change in landing spot with respect to that. I think this will also hold for a shake in the direction of the train, or even if there is an acceleration of he train after your feet had left the ground. It can change where you'd land.