₦airaland Forum

HellraiZA:
Wonderful!

It sure is!

HellraiZA:
Okay!

Seppuku always speaks the truth.

IronGalaxy:
You're concerned with people told to leave a country they don't belong in.. none of that "concern" is extended to innocent people in your country being beheaded for sport. But like I said, you're like a 🪨 continue with the selective and misplaced outrage. Dont care anymore

So is this only a seppuku thing, a Nigerian thing or you are directing this response to the rest of the African countries, affected?

HellraiZA:
I didn't know y'all were tired,pardon my ignorance🙏

2008 to 2026 is enough time to see your country men harassing "foreign"nationals.

HellraiZA:
That's because we never said we want to cut ties.

If you don't want "Africans" flocking into your country then close your embassies abroad and stop issuing Visas to them or giving them 30,60,90 visa on arrivals at the border.

It's that simple. Can't have it both ways.

That "illegal immigration" B.S is coding.

IronGalaxy:
They are shameless hypocrites that's why

Yes, we should all mind our business in our respective countries and leave our special Africans alone with their "internal issues" because its non of our business, when it actually involves our citizens.

HellraiZA:
I'm not analysing who will make up the majority.I am questioning the conduct of a political party that got voted to occupy seats in Parliament.

How different is this conduct of theirs from that of the ANC or Umkotho with a bunch of inept parliamentarians. I've been watching your parliament for years now too and nothing from the EFF strikes me as grossly out of order. A little disruptive but definitely not out of order.

HellraiZA:
Most South Africans are not participating or joining Jacinta's group so why is the rest of Africa in a frenzy?

Because the incitement endangers the lives of its citizens who are lawfully and legally present within the country.

IronGalaxy:
Nah.. engaging you is akin to engaging a rock.. absolute waste of time..

Which is why you continue to lurk around my conversations with your other compadres.

HellraiZA:
Funny enough it was Ramaphosa who brought light to the enslavement of Nigerians and other Africans in Libya.But it's us they want to mobilize the African Union against? Huahahahaha

Why are you angry at the fact that a lot of African countries are also tired of you camouflaging "hate" as attending to "illegal immigration" matters and see through your B.S.

If you are so mad then cut all ties with the rest of the continent and go it alone. Who is stopping you from lobbying your government to do that.

andrewza:
EFF is not centre left, they are full left wing

You are lucky they are not extreme left.

IronGalaxy:
We are essentially wasting our time on people who are obsessed of South Africa to detriment of their own issues.. look at what's happening in Nigeria..its beheadings after beheadings..do you see the same outrage? Libya once sold Nigerians like cattle, I never once saw the same outrage, the same pan-Africanism speeches and what not.. these people are hypocrites man.. we should just let them talk, its afterall what they are good at

Irongalaxy.

Been itching to chime in eh!

Welcome back. We have several topics running simultaneously on Nairaland so stop it with the obsession.

On your pan-Africanism reference there. We know South Africans have been isolated from real Africa for a good amount of time so struggle with what this idea was all about.

It represents the idea that as a continent and racial block which experienced centuries of similar exploitation, dispersal and dominance, it is necessary we build economic, cultural, technological and systematic, coalitions amongst ourselves to be able to survive the world order as it is being formulated and has little to do with what your people continue to be fed down there about congregating in South Africa to displace you.

HellraiZA:
Except that March and March is not a registered political party and don't carry the same responsibilities as the EFF.The EFF conducts itself in a way that is unbecoming of a party that has its members in Parliament and leaves one to wonder what kind of a country will we have under such.

In truth, The EFF are a disgruntled segment of the ANC and so is UMKOTO. Together the three parties are one and the same who make up the majority of the center, center left which is truly where your country leans on the political spectrum. Their chances of becoming a majority are slim so why are you panicking?

HellraiZA:
Just look at the trail of the egotistical self praising you have been doing here,calling yourself a "God" and you will see who has a big ego here.

"god" with a small "g".

HellraiZA:
So you think the average EFF minion who shows up to these rallies just because there will be a bowl of rice and stew beef at the event even heard of a man called Karl Marx,let alone explain his principles? You are really overestimating the brain capacity of these guys 😂

You are describing a majority of "people" attached to any kind of organization. Their self-interests are seldom tied to the complexities of ideologies or objectives but rather to the most primordial of sentiments or needs.

Take your members of March and March and the likes for example. You really believe those half naked men dressed in feathers roaming the streets with whips understand the complexities of global migration or the laws that have been established to govern them.

This does not take away from the fact that a majority of the cadre in the EFF are university educated folk who are very versed in its ideology and willingly want to be part of it.

HellraiZA:
Why shouldn't I think that? I occupy your entire being to the point of speculating who I am while I on the other hand never put you into thoughts like that.

Fair enough.

Your ego is outstanding.

maasoap:
Protests that have become tools for murdering people and destroying properties are no longer protests. Sorry.


And how many whites have been killed by that government so far? And secondly, what lesson am I supposed learn from your submission?

My guy Kobojunkie is playing strawman arguement with you.


You state that Protests have become tools for looting, he tells you Protests are not a tool for mudering. Its strawmanning.

Don't mind him.

HellraiZA:
For the first time ever we agree on something.Even I always thought he was necessary in our parliament to keep the ANC on its toes.But no man is above critic,hell even Mandela,SA's most beloved statesmen was never above scrutiny.It is the cult-minded attitude of the EFF members that always leaves me dumbfounded,if you criticise Juju then you are either an agent or a supporter of "white imperialism".Imagine always thinking in a one dimensional way like these people - If it's not black, it's white.

A student of Karl Marx would be very clear on the strategies employed by the EFF.

HellraiZA:
Whatever mission that is.It amazes me how you are always right there whenever I post
Sounds like obsession to me.

Always thinks he is special. I respond because I choose to.

HellraiZA:
Or you could be Tinubu's manure but don't know it yet? Mhmm🤔

Opinions are always tolerated here on nairaland. We are not in our emotions and xenophobic.

HellraiZA:
And so did Zuma who majority hated with passion,lol and Zuma was in the real position of power, something the 6% guy has not and most likely will never taste... nothing special there.

Julius continues to be a necessary evil and component in the political space of South Africa as it transitions into a government of coalitions and by my estimates 6% to 9% is a significant block owing to the part that he is on the left of the political spectrum which is where a majority of your people are situated.

It scared the be-Jesus out of some your centrists so much that they had to form an alliance with the White monopoly-controlled DA.

He doesn't have to become President. He just has to exist.

HellraiZA:
Good boy.

Yes, Master.

HellraiZA:
Yes! For a very long time you thought I was a spy,now I am a white nationalist in black face.What will I be next? I guess we never know.

And became an even bigger phony,sad!

Don't really care what you are Jace, not relevant to my mission. If you were to go back to your "silent treatment", Seppuku will still be here doing what I do best.

Morpheus is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix. We are an anomaly which is why we will always be here.

HellraiZA:
Not you,the one you all worship.I figured him out.His minions were never that important for me to care what they think.

You just mad at juju because he still around after all this time. The man is a survivor and a real one. Last of a dying breed.

HellraiZA:
Lose would be the correct word here.Let's acclimatise ourselves to proper use of the English language,shall we?

I stand to be corrected. Thank you.

HellraiZA:
But for a very long time you were suspecting that I could be a spy.Looks like I did well.🤔
And just for the record : what I am is far more sinister than that😈

Oooohhh, I am shaking in my boots Jace!

HellraiZA:
You have done a terrible job under the Morpheus alias.Is that why you had to pivot and come back under another phony identity, Seppuku?

Nah I felt I needed something different you know fresh to resonate more with the youngens.

HellraiZA:
Except that it's usually people who claim to fight a certain form of power that tend to be the main ones enjoying the fruits of its existence - controlled opposition so to speak.And we know who that is, don't we Morphy?!

Damn Hellrazer ZA!, You've figured me out.

HellraiZA:
A lot of time indeed, engaging a white nationalist in black skin like Jace..oh hey,I might be that SA government official that you were speculating about with spyware all over NL🤔

Nah, you get agitated too quickly and loose that temper of yours to be a calm and collected online spy.

HellraiZA:
Who am I? I am legion,for I/we are everywhere👹👹👹👹

YOu know its funny you quote that line. The agent in the matrix said something very similar to Morpheus.

How profound?

HellraiZA:
Another conspiracy in seppuku's head about who he thinks I am and what I am aligning with.

Hey, I gave it a shot. I am probably not that far off.

HellraiZA:
You are free to lock out yourself so why are you even still camping here waiting for my posts?

Cause I have the time.

HellraiZA:
Lol now we have graduated to far right white nationalists groups, y'all really have an irrational fear of us hey!!

Very much so that you hear the rhetoric. I even recall Jacinta say in a press conference once that " we shall make South Africa great again!"

When was South Africa great?

HellraiZA:
Oh you are just a concerned morally righteous African who's looking after the helpless Africans dying at the hands of "xenophobes"?

I am Morpheus. The god who wakes people up from their slumber.

I am Seppuku. A truth teller who will die with his honour.

Who are you Jace?

JaceBlaze:
I am attacking anybody who pretends to care about a lost life when in fact they are using that as a vehicle to spread propaganda and irrational fear about a movement that has never killed anyone.These brain-dead red beret wearing rascals have never given a single damn about anybody.Oh and if you were subliminally inquiring about my political affiliation I am happy to know I have never aligned myself with those people - it's no secret,buddy

The rest of your post are your views to hold and you are more than welcome to stand on that.And my engagement with you was never to drag you towards my side of politics.This can go on forever if you wish
.

HAHAHAHA!.

Who would mistake you for a red beret. You are probably enjoying the dividends of White monopoly capital too much to align with "those socialists".

Noone is forcing you to continue conversing with me. The fact will continue to remain, "black foreigners" are being harassed, maimed, intimidated, assaulted, and now being killed. There is no doubt the incitements and propaganda by march and march have contributed to this but as usual, we are all talking "nonsense."

It's astounding how the rhetoric that your "patriots" spew in the name of taking back your country is identical to far right nationalist propaganda in Europe with the only difference being those people over there are little bit more civilized and haven't started attacking "immigrants" on the streets. Well not yet.

And just for transparency. I am not a Pan Africanist. We know how much you guys down there hate that word.

JaceBlaze:
No plot lost buddy! Pan Africans are by far some of the biggest liars and vindictive set of humans I have ever seen.Imagine using someone's death to score cheap political points.Ya'll are using this guy's death as a mean to an end and that's some sick twisted shít.

We know you hate the EFF which is why you are subliminally trying to attack them with that accusation.

No amount of diversions will take away from the fact that your far-right anti immigrant nationalist and bigoted gang members in March and March and the likes have spread enough hateful propaganda that is producing the harassment, dehumanization and death of " BLACK FOREIGNERS" in general.

This is what you want so stop shying away from it. Scream it loud and proud ABAHAMBE!

JaceBlaze:
Wanted to use Nhlamulo's death as a weapon to attack a movement that has been demonstrating peacefully,and now he's angry because it was revealed that his death had nothing to do with the marches.. that's how vindictive and selfish these so called pan Africans are.

You are redherring and misdirecting with pan Africanism Mfethu because you have lost the plot.

The "peaceful" marches are a ploy to camouflage the hate, harassment, intimidation, vandalism, looting, attacks and now deaths of foreign nationals.

Don't attack the messenger, attack the message.

andrewza:
There where far non violent protest Marches than there where act of violence. News went SSD how the one where people just walked holding banners.

Your people are pushing the line between peaceful protests enshrined in many constitutions and anarchy.

The problem is your history with violent protests are endemic, some of you can't tell the difference anymore.

JaceBlaze:
Welcome to the rude awakening.You wanted so bad for these deaths to be linked to March and March so that the fear mongering you have been spreading can somewhat look rational.

My brada, I don't care if you are a card-carrying member of March and March nor do I care much about the personalities or the vehicles that keep cropping up to promote xenophobia. The message is clear you are a xenophobic nation and are pretending to the rest of the world that these movements are not hate driven but about illegals. The more you guys act the clearer it becomes.

I have been preaching this forever and I have been vindicated. Embrace your collective shame and Welcome to African exceptionalism!

zhike:
If they don't leave president will step down and new president will take over.
Police are always saying that they can chase foreigners within a week but they are waiting for instruction from government.

The president will step down because of Phala Phala and not Migrants.

zhike:
They will leave by 30 June 2026, to be honest Nigerians are not too much impacted because we don't have many Nigerians compared to other migrants. The main target is Indians, Pakistanians, somalians, ethiopians, Zimbabweans, Mozambiques,.

If they don't leave then what?

You will make SA ungovernable or you will unal.i.v.e them.

zhike:
That will be good if foreigners can leave, we will deal with next problems as they come, the problem is when you don't deal with problems.

but they are not going to leave South Africa. That is the point.

JaceBlaze:
Keywords: "under police investigation"

Oh I forgot seppuku is from a 5th world country where sentiments are a conclusive evidence.Everything hinges upon a rhetoric.Seppuku just doesn't get these procedural concepts.

Clever South Africans
.
How is it that your 1st world efficient SAPs took less than a day to gather all the facts and quick to conclude that the Tsonga boy's death was "unrelated" to the xenophobic attacks but in the same breath the "foreigners" deaths are still "under investigation" in Mossel bay, on the same day and within the vicinity as the attacks.

Let me guess you are putting SOUTH AFRICANS FIRST!.

Shame. South African exceptionalism.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyp4e87dq6o

Two men from Mozambique were killed in South Africa's Mossel Bay, authorities have said.

In an earlier statement, the Mozambican government said five of its nationals had been killed "as a direct consequence of xenophobic attacks". But the police in South Africa did not give a motive and an investigation is ongoing.

Tensions have been rising in South Africa in recent weeks following protests calling for tougher action against illegal migration. Some African nations say it has resulted in violence against their citizens, which South African authorities have not confirmed.

The deaths of the men aged 27 and 43 on Saturday follows violence in the Western Cape the day before.

In releasing these details, the South African police said on Tuesday that they wanted to "set the record straight".

In a separate incident, officers said an 18-year-old South African man was stabbed to death in the early hours of Sunday, in what was possibly a botched robbery. No arrests have been made.

On Friday, violent unrest swept through a settlement in KwaNonqaba, during which more than 50 shacks were set on fire.

Five people have been arrested in connection with the arson, authorities have said.



One Mozambican woman told local media she and her family were "still inside when people started burning down" their house.

"They said we should leave or we'll get hurt," Dolinda Mabunda said. adding they took what they could and "ran".

While the South African police statement confirmed the killings of the two Mozambican men, Maputo said five of its citizens had been killed.

The Mozambique government alleged that 800 of its citizens had been "victims of xenophobic attacks" during Friday's violence.

It added 300 people had left South Africa on Saturday to return to Mozambique and the remaining 500 were due to follow. Two people died in a road accident.

"Given the volatility of the situation... it is expected that the current situation will worsen," the Mozambican government warned.

South African protesters have accused undocumented migrants of placing pressure on public services, as well as being involved in crime, and have called on the government to strengthen immigration enforcement, resulting in rising anti-foreigner sentiment.

Several African countries including Kenya, Malawi, Lesotho and Zimbabwe have advised their citizens to remain vigilant.

JaceBlaze:
Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.


So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?

Shame. Jace lost for ideas. Mozambican lives don't matter.

RIP to the young lad who lost is life. Senseless violence.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n-HOPvy4Bo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaWn0P8GG7A

JaceBlaze:
Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.


So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.They first claimed it was Zulus who killed him yet Mossel Bay is a Xhosa area,and also,who the hell is out there marching at 3 am?

****Shame*** in Julius Malema voice, you have been caught strawmanning.

Your exceptionalism is mind boggling.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AetPONLuWc0

JaceBlaze:
Maybe you are stup!d and there is nothing I can do to help you with that but there is those of us who refuse to let emotions and sentiments override logic and we can smell propaganda a mile away.I knew even before the police made an official statement that the young men's death had nothing to do with March and March.

So whoever is looking for anything negative to throw dirt on March and March can go back to scrapping the bottom of the bucket because this one didn't work and the details and the time this happened don't even compute.

You think you are being clever neh. There was more than one death plus Who said the deaths were "directly" linked to March and March. They are linked to Xenophobia fueled and instigated by your so-called peaceful marches

I repeat again so your exceptional South African brain attempts to comprehend. Prior to the peaceful "marches" why were we not inundated with lootings, harassments, vandalism and now killings aimed at foreign nationals?

Propaganda my a**

https://www.msn.com/en-za/crime/general/five-mozambican-citizens-killed-amid-rising-xenophobic-attacks-in-south-africa/ar-AA24Eppp


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=celhHmz7XCY



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Olurondo:
Shitty South Africa.Who wants to live in SA?Very rubbish country.Why are tgey making noise like their country has anything to offer?

Make you no go nah!

kedeojo:
I knew it will come to this one day. I have advice my four cousins and some friends not to make south africa thier permanent home. Nigeria guys live flamboyant lifestyle over there and that is bringing jealousy. we are the target mainly.

It is correct to state there is a degree of resentment about the flamboyancy and success of Nigerians in South Africa but we brought that upon ourselves by our outlandishness.

This does not however give anyone an excuse to harm anyone else but indeed there is a degree of jealousy from poor people and I have witnessed this myself.